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I dont understand why Rhino is not getting an X-division title shot?
He is fighting the champion. If it were anyone else it would be a title match.
 
I agree. The boring, unathletic, bland Rhino should have a shot at the glorified Cruiserweight title. The match is only taking place to fill PPV time, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't challenge for the title. In fact he should win it.

Have you thought why the match is non-title? Maybe because Rhino will win and TNA don't want him to have the X-Division title.
 
Rhino is on his way out. He was at the top of his game 5 or 6 years ago. I am a fan of Rhino, but he is at the point in his career where he is putting the younger guys over- and he does a good job of it. Don't expect anymore title reigns from Rhino. He'll be lucky if TNA doesn't let him go in their next batch of cost cutting releases.
 
Rhyno is TERRIBLE since the demise of ECW. He was an animal in ECW. Vicious and destructive. Now, he looks like a dude that lives in his Mom's basement and is mad cause someone made fun of him because of it. Rhyno is NOT past his prime. His is still on the young side and if he got retooled back into the Rhyno of OLD, he could still win the hearts of fans. But lets face it, he is SHORT, FAT, LIMITED MOVESET, and outright BORING. GORE GORE BORE! That tagline only sound good coming from Paul E. and him only! Mike Tenay has NO BUSINESS even trying to say it and same goes for Don West.
 
It would be really pointless to put the X belt on Rhyno. Rhyno is at a cross roads in his career where he shouldn't be holding any belt. He won't help make the belt become any more valuable and the belt won't really do much for him either. If they were to put the belt on Rhyno it would almost de-value the belt in the since that the belt is a crusierweight title and even though there is not weight restriction fans want their champions to be quick and do flips stuff Rhyno can't do. Rhyno has poor mic skils, average ring skills, almost no personality and his name value is pretty much 0, and the belt should be nowhere near him. This is what TNA should not due, place belts on old guys with no future while burring their young guys who do have futures.
 
I really believe that Rhino should be getting a shot at the X title and win, I feel this would then lead to a great start to expanding the X Division. I mean its on a PPV as well and to be honest Sheik v Rhino isnt exactly a match everyone wants to see and willing place thier money down to see. So TNA why isnt Rhino getting the title shot?
 
Rhino is right where he should be right now. The same place where you find BG James, Kip James, and a couple of others. He provides an important part to the puzzle that should be ANY wrestling organization. And that part is the role of talent enhancement. In this role, he can not only be used put over the up and coming guys, but he can also be used as a leader and eventual agent. Trust me, regardless of his win/loss record or past achievements, he is gaining alot more respect by accepting his role rather than asking for his release.

Sure, he could get a release and have a mini-run in ECW as the true heavyweight champion. It would lead to a feud where he disputes the validity of the current ECW champion, whoever that may be, as he was the last world champion of the one true ECW. He could also bring the tv title with him to create a secondary title in ECW to be feuded over in the future thusly reshaping the landscape of WWE's "C" brand.

It would be an incredible and profitable angle as he would receive high dollar to pull this off and WWE would pay it. Or at least they would have paid it. And it would have been a great angle. Key word being "would have" as Rhino had the opportunity to jump ship and do this some time ago. WWE offered more money and more exposure for this man to come aboard with the ECW title in tow. He turned it down to re-up with TNA. And not only did he do that, but he didn't even hold TNA hostage for a title run of any kind. He came back to be exactly where he is now.

And that shows Rhino's level maturity that he has gained. He remembers that long ago someone stepped down so that he could get his chance. He realizes that his time in the spotlight is limited and that his career is on the decline. Why should he be like others who went past their prime to go on name recognition alone? How many times have you seen a Hogan or Michaels match and hoped that they would just hang it up already. How many of us hoped, seeing a thin haired Ric Flair walk that isle to do his usual flop scheme and then the figure four, that he would have called it quits years ago? Now I'm not saying that Rhino is that old or pitiful, but he knows his limits and has accepted them.

I say that Rhino should receive praise for that, instead of ridicule because he has shown that he is grown up in the business and not just another premadonna holding on to the spotlight like it was life support. He's a class act and if noone else is willing to praise Rhino for this, then I certainly will because it's the least that he deserves.
 
Rhino is not getting screwed at all. He is lucky to still have a job when you think about it. He was great when ECW was still going, and when he was in WWE. WWE did not use his full talent, and frankly they made a mistake. Rhino was very talented, and I grew into a big fan of him. Now that he is with TNA, he is a few years past his prime, and with all his injuries hes had, I think it's time he hung up his boots. He is lucky to even be getting a title shot at this point in his career. I think Rhino was good, but he is past his prime, and needs to retire after all his injuries hes had.
 
Thats INSANE. Rhino is FAR from "PAST HIS PRIME". He just needs a makeover and go back to the viciousness that made Rhino, Well, RHYNO. You know what RUINS your credibility Tripleh12, you are a fan of HHH yet he is OLDER than Rhino and is MORE PAST HIS PRIME THAN RHINO. Shouldn't HHH be hanging up those boots from his past "SEVERAL INJURIES"?

Look, Rhino needs more moves, more intensity, more weight training. Afro, I am sorry, but he may be letting the younger guys win, HOWEVER, his name recognition is not good enough to make the younger guy look better. Instead, When I see AJ or Lethal beating him, I think to myself, Yea. Whoop-de-doo. Now, if it was the RHINO of ECW PRE-WWE, I would say, HOLY SH*T! Ever since Vince bought ECW, Rhino has been more of a pussy cat instead of the LION.

TNA is destroying whats left of Rhino. Rhino should wake up and realize that he could have been more if he had went to ECW with the TV title or TAKE the ECW World title. But then again, the ECW is getting tarnished by the likes of Chavo and Hardy holding it. ESPECIALLY when their whopping on Mark Henry like a government mule! WTF is up with that? Either way, Rhino is definatly a trooper with helping the young talent, but why is he in the mindset that his career is over. Look how long it took Austin to reach the light at the end of the tunnel. The answer: TNA.

Even TNA realizes that his name recognition is not going to be credible enough to make a younger star look AWESOME over making them look, OK. If there was any a time for Rhino to wake up, Now is the time. Show people like Tripleh12 that they have not a clue. Do something about it.
 
I dont think Russo is a fan of Rhino. But yeah, he has been demoted feuding with Beautiful People and Bashir. But he cut a good promo. he should be part of the main story.. but i hope they do more with this guy in the long run. Rhino is a big name with lots of potential as well.l
 
Rhino is not past his prime, I think he is IN his prime.
the guy is only 33 years old. and If you think he is fat, you are crazy! He is stalky, but I bet pound for pound he is the strongest guy there!

(see Mark Henry) both have similar builds.

Rhino works the crowd pretty well. everyone chants "gore" and he can hold his own against anyone in TNA.

I will be honest, I am not a big Rhino fan, but I hate to see time, titles go to waste on a joker (sheik, petey williams) and would rather it get some respect on Rhino, who arguby wrestled more x-division style matches then samoa joe!
(elevation x, ultimate x)

I bet in WWE Rhino would be world champ. but TNA seriously needs to get the legends title off Booker and start getting that spread around.
 
Rhino is not past his prime, I think he is IN his prime.
the guy is only 33 years old. and If you think he is fat, you are crazy! He is stalky, but I bet pound for pound he is the strongest guy there!

(see Mark Henry) both have similar builds.

Rhino works the crowd pretty well. everyone chants "gore" and he can hold his own against anyone in TNA.

I will be honest, I am not a big Rhino fan, but I hate to see time, titles go to waste on a joker (sheik, petey williams) and would rather it get some respect on Rhino, who arguby wrestled more x-division style matches then samoa joe!
(elevation x, ultimate x)

I bet in WWE Rhino would be world champ. but TNA seriously needs to get the legends title off Booker and start getting that spread around.

I have met Rhino personally, and let me tell you, he is FAT. So is Mark Henry. Muscle doesn't form a solid BLOB. I didn't say he was overweight like Brother Ray, I said he was fat.

Rhino is one guy that could be huge if pushed right and he goes back to being the way he was in the old days of ECW. As for the TNA Legends title, LOLOLOLOLOLOL. First off, the title is a JOKE. Second off, the title does NOT have ANY credibility since they put it on BOOGER T. Thats the Hardcore title incognito.
 
Thats INSANE. Rhino is FAR from "PAST HIS PRIME". He just needs a makeover and go back to the viciousness that made Rhino, Well, RHYNO. You know what RUINS your credibility Tripleh12, you are a fan of HHH yet he is OLDER than Rhino and is MORE PAST HIS PRIME THAN RHINO. Shouldn't HHH be hanging up those boots from his past "SEVERAL INJURIES"?

Look, Rhino needs more moves, more intensity, more weight training. Afro, I am sorry, but he may be letting the younger guys win, HOWEVER, his name recognition is not good enough to make the younger guy look better. Instead, When I see AJ or Lethal beating him, I think to myself, Yea. Whoop-de-doo. Now, if it was the RHINO of ECW PRE-WWE, I would say, HOLY SH*T! Ever since Vince bought ECW, Rhino has been more of a pussy cat instead of the LION.

TNA is destroying whats left of Rhino. Rhino should wake up and realize that he could have been more if he had went to ECW with the TV title or TAKE the ECW World title. But then again, the ECW is getting tarnished by the likes of Chavo and Hardy holding it. ESPECIALLY when their whopping on Mark Henry like a government mule! WTF is up with that? Either way, Rhino is definatly a trooper with helping the young talent, but why is he in the mindset that his career is over. Look how long it took Austin to reach the light at the end of the tunnel. The answer: TNA.

Even TNA realizes that his name recognition is not going to be credible enough to make a younger star look AWESOME over making them look, OK. If there was any a time for Rhino to wake up, Now is the time. Show people like Tripleh12 that they have not a clue. Do something about it.

Ok buddy you say Triple H is past his prime, but he still sells merchandise and puts on great matches. Rhino has never been great. Hes been good in ECW, and WWE, but now he just needs to retire. TNA isn't going to give him anything besides bullshit feuds. Rhino's neck is so fucked which is another reason he can't do anything. You can't compare Triple H to Rhino. Triple H can still wrestle great matches, and is good enough to be world champion. When I said Rhino was past his prime I didn't mean from age I meant from injuries. Face it Rhino is not going to make it any bigger then bullshit feuds and he will not come back to be good like he was.
 
Ok buddy you say Triple H is past his prime, but he still sells merchandise and puts on great matches. Rhino has never been great. Hes been good in ECW, and WWE, but now he just needs to retire. TNA isn't going to give him anything besides bullshit feuds. Rhino's neck is so fucked which is another reason he can't do anything. You can't compare Triple H to Rhino. Triple H can still wrestle great matches, and is good enough to be world champion. When I said Rhino was past his prime I didn't mean from age I meant from injuries. Face it Rhino is not going to make it any bigger then bullshit feuds and he will not come back to be good like he was.

Puts on great matches? No. Sells merchandise Yes. I don't think rhino needs to retire i agree what has been said he is perfect for putting young talent over. We may not take him seriously but those people in the impact zone still do. Also he would be perfect for a Mid Card belt if they ever introduce one. But as for him getting screwed? To me rhino is where he should be right now upper midcarder who puts talent over from time to time and used for filler matches since the crowd is into him.
 
Puts on great matches? No. Sells merchandise Yes. I don't think rhino needs to retire i agree what has been said he is perfect for putting young talent over. We may not take him seriously but those people in the impact zone still do. Also he would be perfect for a Mid Card belt if they ever introduce one. But as for him getting screwed? To me rhino is where he should be right now upper midcarder who puts talent over from time to time and used for filler matches since the crowd is into him.

He doesn't need to retire your right, but he is far from being screwed. He is very lucky to still be in the business, and he is right where he deserves to be right now. As for the mid-card belt. I agree, but TNA needs one badly. The X-Division belt is not a mid card belt and until they get one Rhino is staying in this role. He is very far from being screwed though.
 
Ok buddy you say Triple H is past his prime, but he still sells merchandise and puts on great matches. Rhino has never been great. Hes been good in ECW, and WWE, but now he just needs to retire. TNA isn't going to give him anything besides bullshit feuds. Rhino's neck is so fucked which is another reason he can't do anything. You can't compare Triple H to Rhino. Triple H can still wrestle great matches, and is good enough to be world champion. When I said Rhino was past his prime I didn't mean from age I meant from injuries. Face it Rhino is not going to make it any bigger then bullshit feuds and he will not come back to be good like he was.

OK, Buddy. LOL HHH IS PAST HIS PRIME. The longer he controls the spotlight, the more he will be remembered as a Hulk Hogan, Or Flair that stayed too long in the spotlight because his EGO won't accept the FACT that its time to either help the up and comers or hang it up. The DX thing to me has more than run its course. Its hard to look at HHH & HBK looking as rough as they are and still take them seriously. I was hoping and praying they would do the RIGHT thing and push Miz & Morrison to a new level but their EGO'S WOULDN'T ALLOW IT. Rhino may have neck issues, but look at those HUGE ASS knee braces HHH wears. Take those off of him and he is a walking disaster area. Hell, even with them on he has been shelfed several times.

Also, Look at SABU. He had his neck broken and he could still out perform HHH & Rhino hands down. What about Kurt Angle? You saying he should hang up his boots to after his SEVERAL neck injuries? I mean, why is Rhino any different? Oh thats right, you just don't like him. Maybe its because that even after Angle said all that nasty shit about TNA, TNA is still BLOWING ANGLE but could care less about Rhino. Just because Rhino has had neck issues, does NOT mean he should hang up the boots. What he SHOULD do is find new moves that he can do and perfect them. Then pick up his intensity like he had in ECW. Then go and kick everyones ASS. Period.

The only thing you need to face is the FACTS. Rhino could still go. IF TNA WOULD LET HIM. TNA is his worst enemy by booking him in these pointless matches and having him lose. Rhino just needs to lose TNA & go back to a company that respected his VICIOUSNESS and show you wrong. I have not been a fan of Rhino's since he left the WWE. Simply because he has become a PUSSY in TNA.

Just like HHH, His move set has not changed in YEARS. Oh, off the ropes, Knee to the face! Now a face buster! PEDIGREE! Match over. Wow. That was entertaining. The only reason HHH looked good in matches is because of the guy he was facing. Plain and simple.
 
Rhyno is fat, sloppy and does nothing right.

Not to mention how is he getting screwed? He is the self appointed leader now of the originals/frontliners and is fighting Angle at their next ppv.

Kinda stupid they did the one shot thing with Divari at their last ppv. but whatever.

Rhyno is getting a push he doesn't deserve. Especially since his contract is up next year around march I wanna say?
 
HE was getting screwed prior to when this thread was made. I 'm happy that Rhino is finally getting a decent push even though it looks like he'll lose at Final Resolution so that Kurt will get to face Jeff. I guess the question is "how" will he lose. I'm sure he won't lose clean.. he doesn't need to job clean and I'm sure there'll be some MEM antics

Rhino is pretty talented and he proved it in his crazy gores, his awesome promo against MEM last week, and his passion for the business (and for TNA - for re-signing)

3D also recently re-signed with TNA as well.. so they showed their "loyalty" while Christian might have gone to WWE.. who knows..

I"d like to see this story pick up more and see more decent character storyline pushes for the originals as well.

I also wouldn't mind seeing TNA advertising on big shows so that the word can be out that this company exists
 
It doesn't matter. He still doesn't deserve this push. He has done nothing in TNA worth mentioning nor did he do anything within WWE that's worth mentioning.

The only time he was ever decent was in ECW and even that's a far fetch statement.
Hard core rules and crazy spots does not equal talent. People need to realize this.

He is a fat, sloppy, charismaless, lazy, botch machine with a generic ass finisher and sucks on the mic who doesn't deserve any push.
 
Ok...I posted previously in this thread that I believed Rhino's career was on the downswing and my opinion on that hasn't changed. However, I do think that he has had a fairly successful career.

It doesn't matter. He still doesn't deserve this push. He has done nothing in TNA worth mentioning nor did he do anything within WWE that's worth mentioning.

I can give you a few things any wrestler would like mentioned in their resume. Rhino was the NWA champion in TNA. He also won a handful of titles in the WWE including the US and Hardcore titles.

The only time he was ever decent was in ECW and even that's a far fetch statement.
Hard core rules and crazy spots does not equal talent. People need to realize this.

He is a fat, sloppy, charismaless, lazy, botch machine with a generic ass finisher and sucks on the mic who doesn't deserve any push.

Rhino was extremely successful in ECW. He held the TV title twice and was the world champion. Rhino was booked as a monster heel and he played the role incredibly well. He cut great promos for that character and showed a ton of charisma.
I am a huge fan of ECW and I do enjoy harcore wrestling. I don't think that anyone believe's that hardcore spots necessarily take talent. But it does take balls. It shows your willingness to put yourself and your opponent over and it shows your dedication to the company.

I think your take on Rhino as a whole is a little off the mark and unfair. You may not like him, and he definately is not what he once was, but he deserves a little more credit that you have given.
 
Pretty much everyone held the hardcore title at one point the WWE.
The US title hasn't meant shit to the company in a long ass time.

No one cares about ECW. The company had a lot of good wrestlers though. Rhyno just wasn't one of them. And how the hell does wrapping yourself in barbed wire, getting slammed on bag of nails and shit like that dedication? It's just fucking stupid. Not having balls or dedication. It's just fucking stupid. ECW = Doing whatever they could to get noticed. Which is why they were the way they were.

Being a world champion doesn't mean shit. Look at AJ. 2 time triple crown champ and they constantly buried him under christian and angle while playing him off as a helpless ******.
 
Then what does mean something if being a world champion doesn't? Your arguements are getting weaker by the sentence. And how can you make a blanket statement that nobody cares about ECW? I care about ECW. More than any other wrestling company that ever existed. Don't think that your opinions apply to everyone. And don't think your opinions will override facts.

Maybe you don't like Rhino, but that doesn't mean that he hasn't had his success.
 
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