Reigns/Wyatt. Out of nowhere, will probably end up going nowhere.

[Navi]

So last night at MITB, as the dirt sheets are saying, "a returning Bray Waytt made his presence felt." First of all where was he returning from? The back room where he shoots his promo's from? Anyway, he became the number one nuisance on my list again by interrupting the MITB Ladder Match, and causing Reigns to lose the briefcase.

So I have some thoughts on this, and those who have seen me post will probably know what they are before reading any further. Am I the only one who is getting sick and tired of the way every one of his feuds seem to start? You have a great match in a PPV, and in comes Bray Wyatt at the 11th hour to cause shit. He then goes on a month long promo spree, which culminates in his eventual losing to whatever opponent he faces. This looks to be no different from all his other feuds.

The worst part of this one is it makes absolutely no sense at all for him to target Reigns. He has no history with Reigns, except for the Shield/Wyatt matches and let's face it neither guy here can afford to take the loss.

Reigns is on the upswing, and Wyatt, well he's just been sort of middling around doing nothing. Surely to God creative can come up with a way to use this guy. If they can't then either change the gimmick, or get rid of him. I know I'm at the point with Wyatt personally, that if he left the WWE tomorrow, I'd be doing a happy dance.

And putting one of the best promo artists in the business today against one of the worst, well it's a recipe for disaster. For Reigns that is. I can just see it now. Wyatt will do a 10 minute monologue and Reigns will respond with "I'll punch you in the mouth". Epic stuff there.

But as I said before, this feud makes no sense, it's come out of nowhere. I have a feeling that because the two of them are a loose end, the idea is let's throw them together and we'll worry about it later.

So what does everyone else think? Good idea for Reigns to take on Wyatt or not?

 

[MartialHorror]

I am tired of the way these feuds start and have gotten tired of Bray Wyatt. The man has skill, but it gets old when all of his feuds more-or-less play out in the exact same way.

I have to admit that his appearance at MitB caught me off guard and I have often felt like he should be Roman Reigns primary rival- like Austin/Rock, Cena/Orton, Rollins/Ambrose. Whenever they shared the ring during the brief 'Shield Vs Wyatt Family' program, they got the biggest reactions.

And all of that was pissed away when Roman Reigns defeated Wyatt after having previously beat Henry and Wade 'King of the Ring' Barrett in a single night. That's going to be hard to recover from.

 

[MCMG]

They had a match on Raw a few weeks ago. Reigns won but Kane was involved so it wasn't as if it was a clean victory. Before Elimination Chamber, Ambrose had a few matches with Wyatt and Reigns interfered in one. They have definitely been foreshadowing to this match.

Why? We'll soon find out but I like it. Given the amount of things Reigns has been through, it is hardly a shock Wyatt would go after him. He is logically one big loss away from a massive breakdown. Or that's what everyone is predicting. It's like Wyatt's feud with Cena but the possibility of a character shift with Reigns is much greater.

These two have huge potential. It wasn't even 3 months ago when these two were in the biggest matches of the night at Wrestlemania. Wyatt has definitely gone backwards since. Reigns, I'd suggest he has gone forward. This feud very well could have a special feel to it and a nice look into the future.

The only question I have is putting Reigns up against Wyatt. He will continue to get mixed reactions here and there but up against Wyatt is risky. Plus, Summerslam is in New York. That crowd will likely be at least 60/40 Wyatt. The attitude is probably they can't protect Reigns forever and it is vital to know how certain fans will react to him.

I'm all for this feud. Indeed, I'm excited at the prospect and I'm expecting some fantastic matches. Both have had their share of big matches and both can be physical. Wyatt will deliver on the mic and Reigns has definitely improved. Indeed, a little back and forth with Wyatt may be his breakthrough.

The winner? Well it surely has to be Reigns. Wyatt can win at Battleground. Reigns at Summerslam. Then Reigns wins the gimmick match in the third. Mind you, watch out for Harper, Rowan and those returning Uso's.

 

[GeminiGarlord]

Spiderman beat Wyatt in the main event of the last raw (or was it the one before), so him getting revenge makes much more sense that any feuds Wyatt had until now.

If anything I'm annoyed because this will only lead to Wyatt losing another feud.

 

[wrestler36]

And putting one of the best promo artists in the business today against one of the worst, well it's a recipe for disaster. For Reigns that is. I can just see it now. Wyatt will do a 10 minute monologue and Reigns will respond with "I'll punch you in the mouth". Epic stuff there.

I actually see an upside to this. I see this as another stepping stone for Reigns' personality to show more. He's getting more comfortable speaking and pairing him with Wyatt will force him to get better. Plus, I can see these two having some real knockdown, drag out brawls that can have them both looking better in the end. It can end up with Wyatt getting the family back together and ultimately going over, making Reigns look strong in the process, losing the 3 on 1 encounter.

 

[Twanfusco]

The most annoying part, for me, isn't that they've stuck these two together (because if they're not in the title picture, they have to do something right?). It's that the match for Battleground has already been announced! Isn't the whole point of wrestling either to chase a title or to settle a score? So who's decided this match should happen? Did Reigns challenge him via Twitter or something? Sure we all know the match would happen but at least give us some build!

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I was surprised when I heard about this but I guess I shouldn't be. If Reigns isn't holding the case then I guess he needs something else to do. Wyatt certainly needs something to do. My guess is that Wyatt will go back to his "join me" talk and I will show you great things and make you better for being with me.

It will probably be a lame build leading to some good, brutal matches with Reigns coming out on top. Maybe Wyatt gets some back up from Harper and Rowan or some new disciples. Seems like he would need it as he has fallen so far and reaching for Reigns is almost as high up the card that he has to go. Less likely is Reigns joining Wyatt in the end but he could use a voice piece and stranger things have happened.

Wyatt screwing Orton would have made more sense to me but whatever.

 

[Creepy Old Man]

I thought it was smart on the part of WWE. Reigns was taken right out of the MitB match and instantly booked into a mid card feud with Wyatt, letting the audience know they're safe from the disgusting Reigns mega-push resurfacing... for now. Best to keep Reigns in mid card, continue to give him the smark rub by associating him with Ambrose, and then gently ease him back into the world title picture down the line.

 

[Wald]

Yeah I'm with you on this one, mostly because Wyatt is such a directionless character at this stage. I can't take the guy seriously when he basically has already targetted the two biggest wrestlers he could target and lost both times. His should have been a story of a cult leader coming in and cutting through a few feuds against guys like Dean Ambrose, Chris Jericho, Kane and Randy Orton as they built him to eventually try to 'take down the machine' of John Cena in 2016 after facing off against the Undertaker in 2015. A loss to Taker at Mania this year wouldn't have been so bad if he hadn't lost to Cena the year previously and just treaded water afterwards.

Hell they had the perfect foil to turn him in to a guy who only wrestles every couple of PPVs in having him as a cult leader. That way Harper & Rowan could have done the fighting and he could have recruited one or two more guys as he sat in his rocking chair directing traffic. Just a complete mishandling of what could have been a great character that gave them years of service, so much so that most seem to be hoping they'll just push the reset button, reunite the Wyatt Family and start from scratch.

 

[t2ne]

I just posted a thread on how they missed out on a great opportunity to make sense of wyatt. Neither one can afford the loss and the fued makes no sense. I'm beyond pissed that creative does the same routine with wyatt when he actually deserves better. For reigns he gets the slow build with someone better than show or kane. How's wyatt suppose to be creditable after losing senseless fueds with an occasional win in between?

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I'm unsure where I stand on this right now.

On one hand, as MCMG pointed out, there's a story behind this that began a little while back and I like that they haven't just dropped the situation between them altogether.

On the other, as has been pointed out by the OP, we've seen so many Wyatt feuds start out like this only for Wyatt to ultimately come out on the short end of the stick with the end result being that he loses some momentum. I've been a fan of Wyatt since his NXT days, but the schtick of him targeting someone, doing his bit on promos, losing and being set back little by little is getting a bit old to me.

At the same time, I'm reminded of Wyatt being only 28 years old; it just seems like he's so much older because of his character and the thick, chest length beard. Wyatt has lost momentum, but he's far from being permanently damaged and the damage he has sustained can be fully repaired and in short order. At some point within the next couple of years, I see Wyatt being WWE World Heavyweight Champion and I think there's a strong possibility that he'll ultimately be the one to take the Intercontinental Championship from Ryback sometime within the next 6 months; he did defeat Ryback at the Payback in a really solid 16 minute match and then their feud got shuffled around and Ryback wins the Intercontinental Championship less than 2 weeks later.

As far as his feud with Reigns goes, I ultimately see this as a means of Reigns continuing to be built up as someone who'll eventually take the championship either sometime before the end of the year or quite possibly at WrestleMania next year.

 

[Mustang Sally]

Reigns is on the upswing, and Wyatt, well he's just been sort of middling around doing nothing.

That's essentially true....and to that end, this match (or feud, if it becomes one) is more about the development of Reigns than Wyatt.

Since WM31......or more accurately since before WM31 when management changed their minds by making the decision that Roman wasn't ready to be world champion, they've had him on a learning curve: keep his profile high, yet give him the chance to learn all he needs to become the future champion for which they undoubtedly have him slated.

The plan is proceeding; Roman has defeated high level wrestlers without dabbling too much in the main event as a single. Next is Bray Wyatt, who's still regarded as a dangerous, unpredictable opponent. He'll provide good opposition for Reigns while giving him the experience he needs. If this does turn into a full-fledged feud, Bray might even take a match in the series, albeit not in clean fashion.

As for Bray, yes, he needs to win some feuds in order to continue to hold his rep as a man to be feared. He hasn't really dominated anyone since Dean Ambrose......and face it, Bray is one of the reasons Dean's stock is so highly valued today. These encounters are building blocks, not ends in themselves.

Bray has his value......and Roman is about to benefit from it.

 

[Kodo Sawaki]

So what does everyone else think? Good idea for Reigns to take on Wyatt or not?

Reigns need a good worker in order a shine. Overated wrestler who's only plus is his boring promos(from some reason WWE think's he is golden boy just because he rambles something nobody doesnt understand) and that he can do some kind of spiderwalk, isnt what Reigns need at this time. Their matches will be mediocre and aside of Reigns destroying Wyatt at the end cant see other scenario in this because Reigns wont lose this. Trouble for WWE is that Wyatt cant afford to lose this either so predicting for this atrocity to go on on probably 3 PPVs.

Its a shame because Reigns was finally picking up as face with helping Ambrose and his matches. He even had pretty loud pop yesterday at PPV. And instead of doing something else like going after Authority and for example Summerslam match with HHH or even some kind of match with Brock because if rumors are truth he is back from today, you stucked him in next few PPVs with overated wrestler that will probably kill his momentum. And then they will ask where did they go wrong...

Trouble for Reigns is that everything else is taken at the moment. Brock will focus on Rollins when he comes back, Rollins is still at feud with Ambrose(otherwise you wouldnt have Ambrose still on belt yesterday at PPV) and HHH and Authority are destined to turn on Rollins before or after Summerslam and we will see HHH- Rollins in some kind of father/son match on or after Summerslam. So they decided to probably scrap Reigns for that and give him this feud. Too bad because he was finally picking it up as face.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

In my view, this is the ultimate test for both Bray Wyatt and Roman Reigns. People have been talking about how great of a star Bray Wyatt is and how good he is and that he should be pushed more.

People have been saying that Roman Reigns is shit and can't do anything without someone carrying him around.

Here's the chance. Yeah, Bray's good when he's facing the likes of Bryan, Punk, Cena and Undertaker. Who wouldn't be? But what can Bray do against a guy like Reigns?

People said that Reigns was underserving for being a main-event player and that he needed Bryan and Lesnar to carry him. But Reigns proved us wrong. Now, he's paired with one of the best promo takers today. Let's see how hee can hang out with Bray in the mic.

Also, let's see how both pf these men can hang against each other in that ring.

It's a test. It's fresh. I only hope creative will give this match an interesting build-up and give these two an interesting feud. Then, it's up to those two, to live up to the expectations or even exceed them.

Seriously, this could turn into Rock vs Triple (1998) of 2015. Let's see where we're going.

 

[Navi]

He hasn't really dominated anyone since Dean Ambrose......and face it, Bray is one of the reasons Dean's stock is so highly valued today. These encounters are building blocks, not ends in themselves.

Bray has his value......and Roman is about to benefit from it.

Sally normally I'm on the same page with you, but not in this case. I don't think he dominated Ambrose. It was pretty evenly split, in ring and promo wise throughout their entire feud. Wyatt won the ambulance match, but it could have gone either way.

And I don't think that Ambrose benefited from being against Wyatt at all. As a matter of fact it took some of his momentum away, and I think I've stated that here on the forum a couple of times. Luckily Ambrose was more over than even the WWE thought and he's been able to gain that momentum back. Wyatt on the other hand lost ground as well, and never got his mojo back, so to speak.

Wyatt might have value, I have no idea what it is, but Reigns won't benefit from it. He'll have to do it on his own.

Seriously, this could turn into Rock vs Triple (1998) of 2015. Let's see where we're going.

Oh I think you're reaching just a little there, considering neither Reigns or Wyatt are the Rock or HHH. Or even come close right now.

Add that to the fact that Reigns has already beat Wyatt on a number of occasions. Last time was a couple of weeks ago, when a tired Reigns took on a fresh Bray Wyatt in the last of three matches that night for Reigns. It wasn't pretty, but he managed to pull off the win.

 

[whoopin' ass]

I have said it about Wyatt ever since he came up to the main roster - he had no direction so it is hard to take him as a threat. Over the last few years, he has had no long term feuds, went for no titles, nothing other than just attack random people, feud for a while and then lose. It makes no sense and not in a good way. If he was attacking the #1 contender all the time, storyline is he is trying to get rid of top talent but he isn't doing that. Even last night, why not go after Ambrose again to continue their feud from a few months ago? It would make some sense. And you can't say that is part of the character, the unpredictable nature, because even if that is the case, he still constantly loses. He is only a threat if he is unpredictable and beats people, otherwise he is just a nuisance. All this is going to be is a way to get Reigns over when he beats the big threat of Wyatt but since Wyatt really isn't a threat, who cares?

 

[Hem]

This is a WM main event worthy feud but that is when it has a great story as to why it is happening. Right now I have to agree that this feud has no history at all. Wyatt is only attacking Reigns for the same reason he attacked Ryback...for no reason at all.

There is still a lot of potential so I won't shit all over it before we even start.

 

[Aeon Mathix]

Yeah ok, we haven't seen this before. Wyatt targeting someone out of nowhere with seemingly no real reason. Innovation at it's finest! In all seriousness though, this is going to turn into 5 weeks of Wyatt rambling about nothing or saving Roman or whatever making us completely forget what they are even fighting about in a few weeks (if we even ever figure it out) and Reigns just saying im gonna beat you believe that.

First of all, Reigns beat Wyatt a few weeks ago after beating 2 other guys previously in the same night. How on earth am I supposed to believe Wyatt has a chance against a fresh Reigns? Can't believe that hasn't been brought up in this thread. Wyatt is clearly going to lose and is just there for something for Reigns to do but couldn't that be said about every one of Wyatt's feuds? He starts off with a promo that doesn't make any sense but is supposed to be cryptic or something and the feud then starts to not make any sense. It's ******ed booking and does nothing for anyone.

Look I get the idea behind Bray Wyatt. He showed a lot of promise when he first debuted, but his booking is atrocious. Seriously he either loses a feud or wins it and nothing from that feud is ever mentioned again. When him, Harper and Rowan carried Kane away at Summerslam after that Ring of Fire match? Nothing was ever mentioned of that again. After being made to look like a fool in that Cena feud? Never mentioned again. Chris Jericho? That happened? Ambrose? Didn't even know why they were fighting and apparently neither did creative because it just turned into them having a series of matches for no reason. Losing to Undertaker after months of promos? Eh whatever doesn't matter and wasn't important enough for him to even acknowledge. This Reigns feud will go the same way as all of Wyatt's feuds go. Something for the big stars to do while creative scrambles to find something for them to do.

 

[Logisticalbooker86]

Regardless of the outcome at Battleground, the problem WWE has in booking Bray Wyatt is growing bigger with each show. The issue is simple, whether he wins or loses does not seem to matter, and I do not mean that in a good way. Consider this, Bray Wyatt lost to Undertaker at Wrestlemania. The defeat meant nothing in terms of character development, as Bray returned to WWE TV weeks later STILL blathering about being the new face of fear.

The same problem occurred with Ryback, but Bray did win that match. The outcome made no difference, nothing changed.

So now, after wandering aimlessly and losing a match to Roman Reigns on Raw a few weeks back, Bray Wyatt "got his revenge" and cost Reigns the briefcase last night.

Cue a meandering promo about Roman Reigns being given everything but taking nothing, repeat three versions of it in the build to Battleground.

I once thought Bray Wyatt had unlimited potential, but whether it is due to bad booking or Bray being overrated I am REALLY starting to sour on him.

The question in this match should not be who wins, (Reigns), it should center on whether Bray Wyatt is anything more than a glorified afterthought with a great entrance?

 

[Olan]

Maybe unpopular but I am tired of Bray. It's always the same with him: cryptic promos, surprise attacks for weeks. Then the match comes and I am underwhelmed. His promos have gone from creepy to to ramblings.
Reigns needs to and should prevail and hopefully quickly

 

[MartialHorror]

They decisively put Wyatt over Ambrose, but that sort of represents the problem. WWE is booking Wyatt A LOT like they book the Big Show. Wyatt will defeat anybody WWE doesn't have any long term plans for, Jericho, Daniel Bryan, Ambrose and Ryback. But whenever he gets built up, he always loses his more meaningful feuds- Taker, Cena and he will lose to Reigns.

WWE changed plans for Ryback at the last minute, presumably after Bray defeated him. Ambrose has only gotten a push to feed Rollins reign. On the flip side, Roman Reigns has been on a losing streak since Fast Lane.

Ugh, this is much like 'Ambrose Vs Bray' or 'Ambrose Vs Barrett' in that I can't help but feel like neither of these guys can afford a loss. It was just too early for this feud.

 

[enviousdominous]

Oh god, it had to happen.

Does the crowd really hate Bray Wyatt? I mean fuck, they seem to dig the whole grungy wrong turn throwback. It was my understanding that Roman is still trying to earn his place as a fan favorite, correct me if I'm wrong but there are still some locations that fucking hate Roman Reigns.

I think that the problem with putting faces into feuds with Bray Wyatt is that Bray Wyatt has the wrong kind of charisma for putting faces over. I think that when Bray is verbally meandering through a forest of intrusive thoughts, he actually starts to make sense to the crowd and they admire him. I honestly can't remember Bray ever saying something like "You <insert city> idiots are too disgusting, even for me!" in between his non-sequitur brain farts.

He's booked as though he's the perfect foil for established faces, it's as if the bookers don't realize that the crowd loves to sing "He's got the whole world". Maybe have Miz, or New Day cost Roman his victory. Someone the crowd loves to hate. The crowd might not pop huge for Bray, but they sure as hell participate with his antics. Roman is just a guy with a look and some high impact moves, I think the crowd will have more fun with Bray.

 

[kadroan]

So last night at MITB, as the dirt sheets are saying, "a returning Bray Waytt made his presence felt." First of all where was he returning from? The back room where he shoots his promo's from? Anyway, he became the number one nuisance on my list again by interrupting the MITB Ladder Match, and causing Reigns to lose the briefcase.

So I have some thoughts on this, and those who have seen me post will probably know what they are before reading any further. Am I the only one who is getting sick and tired of the way every one of his feuds seem to start? You have a great match in a PPV, and in comes Bray Wyatt at the 11th hour to cause shit. He then goes on a month long promo spree, which culminates in his eventual losing to whatever opponent he faces. This looks to be no different from all his other feuds.

The worst part of this one is it makes absolutely no sense at all for him to target Reigns. He has no history with Reigns, except for the Shield/Wyatt matches and let's face it neither guy here can afford to take the loss.

Reigns is on the upswing, and Wyatt, well he's just been sort of middling around doing nothing. Surely to God creative can come up with a way to use this guy. If they can't then either change the gimmick, or get rid of him. I know I'm at the point with Wyatt personally, that if he left the WWE tomorrow, I'd be doing a happy dance.

And putting one of the best promo artists in the business today against one of the worst, well it's a recipe for disaster. For Reigns that is. I can just see it now. Wyatt will do a 10 minute monologue and Reigns will respond with "I'll punch you in the mouth". Epic stuff there.

But as I said before, this feud makes no sense, it's come out of nowhere. I have a feeling that because the two of them are a loose end, the idea is let's throw them together and we'll worry about it later.

So what does everyone else think? Good idea for Reigns to take on Wyatt or not?

It's good for Reigns. If anything this gives Reigns to show some range maybe he got better on the mic like he did in the ring. He held his own against Heyman, the best talker in the company.

I just hate it for Bray because everybody knows he's going to lose.

 

[multiverseman.com]

Wyatt's problem is that he has no purpose. He's a formerly interesting character with zero motivation besides being evil. Villains who are evil just to be evil are boring as hell. For once, after these several years of wrestling, I'd like Bray to tell me what he's trying to do. No more goofy riddles or hollow motives.