Raw the worst it's ever been? What needs to be fixed?

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Hey gang. Keep in mind that posts in Non Spam sections require you to:

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2) Justify that position (WHY???)

This thread is essentially turning into a "Fantasy ... What I would do thread". In doing so, I see a lot of suggestions and ideas going into posts ... and unfortunately a lot of posters aren't giving "The Why".

For example: If you feel that Raw should have less comedy spots ... tell us WHY you feel that way. If you think Raw should have more wrestling ... tell us WHY you feel that way.

Greatly appreciated!

Lord Sidious

Last week's RAW was the first episode I've seen in a few months and by the look of it, I probably won't be watching another one in a while. I know the WWE is supposed to be based more on the entertainment rather than the actually wrestling but the show doesn't even feel like a wrestling show anymore.

Part of this reason of course is the guest host concept. When Vince came out on RAW in North Carolina, I was hoping to hear him announce Flair as RAW's new GM but we got this guest host concept instead.

I gave it the benefit of the doubt and decided to see how it was before I criticized it. We have had some good hosts like DiBiase, Rhodes, even Batista. But then we have the celebrity guests hosts and I know that it's about the ratings but it just takes away from the wrestling aspect.

A lot of backstage segments feel more like SNL skits than actual segments that affect the storyline. Then there's promos like "Raw's got talent" that make it feel more like an MTV show than actual wrestling show.

What do you guys feel needs to change the most?

 

[Southwind]

I think lots of things need to change I think Cena's obnoxious promos are one thingl, and DX's over exposure and obvious love of insulting, degrading, and cutting down young talent needs to cease as well.

But above all else Raw needs some fresh new main event faces since 2005 the WWE title has pretty much been on only three guys Cena Triple H and Orton. This causes the overall product to get stale and the stale main event scene trickles down to the entire show.

Guys Like Kofi Kingston, Jack Swagger, Ted Dibiase, Cody Rhodes, and Sheamus are in need of pushes but there is only room for two or maybe three to be eventual main eventers on Raw so it's an all out war between them.

Lots of change is needed on Raw that's for sure.

 

[Toroc102]

I recently started watching again, the first ep I watched in a long time was the two weeks ago when Kofi destroyed Orton's car. Before that I hadn't watched since Raw went HD.

Too be honest I don't think HD helps Raw too much, I think it makes it look more like a sitcom or drama(not to mention the fact that Raw apparently is a sitcom now since even the WWE(or is it World?) Title scene seems like a big joke right now), and it kind of exposes the fakeness of wrestling. Like you can just tell that the guys are trying to protect each other in the ring now. I don't think big men(Henry, Big Show especially) doing splashes works anymore in HD Raw. Also messed up spots are more noticeable, as well(also Melina's face is a lot clearer in HD and thats just terrible).

So I'd say do away with ALL the comedy and even though I know it won't happen do away with HD (or I guess atleast overuse of different camera angles.).

Oh yeah it might just be me but I think WWE on the whole is overusing guys slapping other guys. Like it seems like there is a lot of slapping going on now, get less insulting and more sissy the more they do it.

I thought Raw was pretty decent to weeks ago, but its kind've been downhill from there, I thought the last two shows were unbearable, it was like one long comedy skit. Every angle on Raw is mostly comedy, from Hornsaggle/Chavo/Guest Hosts to D/X to Cena to the IC angle to Jerishow. I think the Kofi Orton feud is the only serious thing on Raw right now.

 

[Tyler44]

I think lots of things need to change I think Cena's obnoxious promos are one thingl, and DX's over exposure and obvious love of insulting, degrading, and cutting down young talent needs to cease as well.

But above all else Raw needs some fresh new main event faces since 2005 the WWE title has pretty much been on only three guys Cena Triple H and Orton. This causes the overall product to get stale and the stale main event scene trickles down to the entire show.

Guys Like Kofi Kingston, Jack Swagger, Ted Dibiase, Cody Rhodes, and Sheamus are in need of pushes but there is only room for two or maybe three to be eventual main eventers on Raw so it's an all out war between them.

Lots of change is needed on Raw that's for sure.

Ok, explain to me who DX has actually "cut down" in their recent return? It seems to me the actually made Legacy look good a month or so ago when they lost to them on a ppv. Also they are the main attraction right now on RAW if you like it or not, and obviously the main part of the show will appear more than once. They are not over-exposed and do not cut down young talent.

Yes RAW needs new main event people but, who is going to fight there? If you even think saying Swagger, just shut up. Swagger cannot be in the main event scene right now. Legacy is in the same boat along with Kofi, they all are getting their mid-card pushes to make them just a bit better than typical mid-carders, but they CANNOT be fighting in the main event yet. Jack Swagger vs John Cena at Survior Series does not make me want to watch it, but a triple threat with HBK (who is a somewhat new person) makes me want to see it. HBK is established and has been for about 1o years now, but Jack Swagger hasen't been on RAW for even a year.

Sheamus has been on RAW for 2 shows.....? Why does he need to be pushed into the main event already? He is getting the typical monster push that Vladimir Koslov got. He will probably be on ECW again next year, or he may become something on RAW, but we won't know until he's done with his 20 matches against jobbers.

 

[drondog]

HHH- go heel
DX- never come back again, except for the aniversary shows.
HBK- go back to main eventer
Cena-needs repackaged
Swagger-feud with someone important
Miz- never see him as more than a MTV reject
Kofi- could be great but he's black(We know vince's thoughts on that)
MVP, Henry same thing but with henry's WSM gimmick how does orton pull him down for RKO, or any wrestler other than Big Show take him off his feet, it's not beliveable
Shemus- get the guy some sun, in HD i'm snowblind
Raw needs new stars and people from Smackdown, I want Taker back on Raw I want someone other than HHH,Cena,Orton in the main event, for over 5 years it has been them 3 and Edge, Bortista, Taker sometimes. The whole title scene needs fixed, but as long as the kids buy merchandise, and we watch then complain about it, Vince will never change. If his ratings would drop below 2.0 he'd start to change the product, and why go PG, in Attitude era he was in 4's and 5, Nitro's best did and 8.1 so why can't WWE put on a good show. I got one word for you HHH, his marriage to Steph has made the company stale, since she took over as creative it has SUCKED!!!

 

[Derekjt]

More than anything Raw needs more wrestling! The talent is there, but the entertainment side of the show needs to get chopped in half. I can't stand the two minute matches, so I choose not to watch the WWE. The fans have to get annoyed, and stop watching the crap GM shows. If no one watches of course things would change.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

HHH- go heel
DX- never come back again, except for the aniversary shows.
HBK- go back to main eventer
Cena-needs repackaged
Swagger-feud with someone important
Miz- never see him as more than a MTV reject
Kofi- could be great but he's black(We know vince's thoughts on that)
MVP, Henry same thing but with henry's WSM gimmick how does orton pull him down for RKO, or any wrestler other than Big Show take him off his feet, it's not beliveable
Shemus- get the guy some sun, in HD i'm snowblind
Raw needs new stars and people from Smackdown, I want Taker back on Raw I want someone other than HHH,Cena,Orton in the main event, for over 5 years it has been them 3 and Edge, Bortista, Taker sometimes. The whole title scene needs fixed, but as long as the kids buy merchandise, and we watch then complain about it, Vince will never change. If his ratings would drop below 2.0 he'd start to change the product, and why go PG, in Attitude era he was in 4's and 5, Nitro's best did and 8.1 so why can't WWE put on a good show. I got one word for you HHH, his marriage to Steph has made the company stale, since she took over as creative it has SUCKED!!!

HHH-Doesn't need a heel turn. The man destroyed everyone as a heel and even feuded with his best friend HBK. There's nothing left for him to do as a heel.

DX- While I do think DX is stale at times, they still get pretty good pops from the crowd. Besides, some people...okay well a lot of people complain about The Game always being in the main event, so this will keep him away from it.

HBK-While I would love to see Shawn be the champ one more time, it won't happen. He works a limited schedule, and is in his mid 40's. His body is really banged up,and I don't think he wants to be in the spotlight anymore.

Cena- Yeah Cena could use a new look, but as long as his merchandise continues to sell like crazy, it won't happen.

Swagger- The All-American American seems to be headed for a feud with Miz. So let's just wait and see how things unfold.

Miz- I'm not a huge fan of Miz, but the guy makes for one hell of a heel. He's very good on the mic, and has that "cocky jerk" persona to go with it.

Kofi- If you haven't noticed, he's been in a feud with Randy Orton for the past couple of weeks.

Sheamus- He's been destroying jobbers ever since he got to Raw. Just wait...a push is coming.

Taker has loads of pull in WWE. If he does not want to go to Raw, then he won't. Taker has arguably been the face of Smackdown for a long time,and it should stay that way. As far as the HHH/Stephanie thing goes, you do realize Cena and Orton are being groomed to be the future faces of Raw right? I know HHH is in the triple threat match at Survivor Series,but he's there because he still has plenty of name value left, throw HBK into the mix, and you've got a blockbuster match. How do you know HHH has taken over creative? All the final decisons come at the hands of Vince Mcmahon.

Orton and Cena are the next faces of Raw. The WWE cahamponship has been going back and forth between them ever since Summerslam. Swagger,Miz,Sheamus,MVP,and Kofi are all being groomed as the future of Raw. We just have to give it time.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

More than anything Raw needs more wrestling! The talent is there, but the entertainment side of the show needs to get chopped in half. I can't stand the two minute matches, so I choose not to watch the WWE. The fans have to get annoyed, and stop watching the crap GM shows. If no one watches of course things would change.

On this point of wanting more wrestling on the shows ... let me ask you a question.

How happy over-all are you with the quality of the PPV's? Are you satisfied with the variety of matches that you get or do you mind if there are matches like John Cena vs Randy Orton (for example) on Monday Night Raw ... only to be done yet again later that week on the PPV, as well?

As far as the Entertainment side of the show, I agree with you in the sense that I feel that a lot of the "entertainment" is horrendous. I feel it should be chopped as well, but only because it is so damn terrible. I don't find the segments funny at all.

But if they added more flare and drama into actually building angles and storylines to make you want to see the match on PPV, and replaced that "humor" with that .... would you still object to it ... or are you adamant that the time be replaced with more match time?

With a 2 hour broadcast, what percentage and/or how much time of it should be dedicated to the matches, themselves if you factor in commercials and all the other stuff?

 

[beeflange]

HHH should not turn heel, it' s been done before and got boring during his feud with Batista and that's when he took time off. Cena should turn heel and Orton should grow his hair out and turn good like Austin but still be kinda the same. No more PG. The whole show needs to promote the main event. The PPV's is where it is all wrestling anyway and they need to sell that and not have a match on pay per view after it was already on RAW and enough of these tag matches with all the big stars together, keep some people apart.

 

[beeflange]

On this point of wanting more wrestling on the shows ... let me ask you a question.

How happy over-all are you with the quality of the PPV's? Are you satisfied with the variety of matches that you get or do you mind if there are matches like John Cena vs Randy Orton (for example) on Monday Night Raw ... only to be done yet again later that week on the PPV, as well?

As far as the Entertainment side of the show, I agree with you in the sense that I feel that a lot of the "entertainment" is horrendous. I feel it should be chopped as well, but only because it is so damn terrible. I don't find the segments funny at all.

But if they added more flare and drama into actually building angles and storylines to make you want to see the match on PPV, and replaced that "humor" with that .... would you still object to it ... or are you adamant that the time be replaced with more match time?

With a 2 hour broadcast, what percentage and/or how much time of it should be dedicated to the matches, themselves if you factor in commercials and all the other stuff?

The PPV is where most of the matches should be and only the main event should be sold on the show. The sketches work sometimes, and produce ratings. Remember "This is your life Rock" The highest rated segment ever on wrestling.

 

[jayteeERA]

I think raw needs to be more serious, more wrestling. It can have a little humor too. PPL need to laugh at some point while watching the show. Even though I still watch raw and never going to stop i'm just giving my opinion. Its just seems like a circus show with a different celebrity every week.( I know PG era is the cause) You have alot of wrestlers that try so hard to be funny, but actually ends up corny. DX, is good i won't change them in that category. PPL like John Cena, Hornswoggle, and Santino really bugs me. I said b4 Cena needs to turn heel or get that mean streak in and stop trying to humor the crowd. (especialy since half of them boo him) Hornswoggle was better with finley. Santino needs to wrestle or go home and stop trying to be fez from that 70 show. With these changes the rest of the roster will be fine and can move up in WWE.

 

[xxdakiid24xx]

I think raw needs to be more serious, more wrestling. It can have a little humor too. PPL need to laugh at some point while watching the show. Even though I still watch raw and never going to stop i'm just giving my opinion. Its just seems like a circus show with a different celebrity every week.( I know PG era is the cause) You have alot of wrestlers that try so hard to be funny, but actually ends up corny. DX, is good i won't change them in that category. PPL like John Cena, Hornswoggle, and Santino really bugs me. I said b4 Cena needs to turn heel or get that mean streak in and stop trying to humor the crowd. (especialy since half of them boo him) Hornswoggle was better with finley. Santino needs to wrestle or go home and stop trying to be fez from that 70 show. With these changes the rest of the roster will be fine and can move up in WWE.

Dude i tottaly agree with you on that 100 percent no buts or nothing . Cena could get really corny at times and hornswoglle is just waisting good wrestling time. Santino needs to get some ring action or just not be there at all and wuts up with special guest host thing every week i know its pg and all but its like getting tired of those lame segments they have raw realyy needs to focus on the wrestling or might as well just make it a freakin reality show.

 

[gtajoker01]

Raw used to be the bomb when eric bischoff was gm. i think its pointless of having celebrities guest host most of the matches some celebs make suck. like take the last guest host he completely embarrassed chavo guerrero. here's what i think raw needs.

1.Decent wrestling, no 5 minute matches and no interference because that's getting real old.

2. An active tag team division- Having big show and jericho holding both tag titles is pretty pointless in my opinion and that kills the tag team division.

3.unpredictability- Unpredictability is a pretty important thing in Pro wrestling. if pro wrestling is predictable then why bother watchin it.

4. They need to stop embarassing midcard talent like chavo how many times we have to see chavo get humiliated on worldwide tv.

 

[rdlevy1215]

Raw has to go back to a TV-14 DLV rating, and be more like it was in the late '90s, early 2000s, etc. With more controversial storylines and stuff, and more WRESTLING. Guest hosts need to go, and Vince needs to be the guy 'in charge' alongside a commissioner/GM or something.

After watching a RAW from 2000, like:

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its amazing how much of a better product that was compared to the current product. More wrestling and more storylines.

Maybe WWE will notice that the ratings have gradually been falling over the past several weeks, and can finally change things ....

 

[Midnight]

1) Better placement of comedy spots. For example, right before HIAC, we saw the "joking" Cena. It's like, dude, you're going into HIAC, you shouldn't be smiling. Also, Cena, HHH and HBK are about to enter a triple threat world title match, yet I don't think any of them are taking it seriously. I have no problem with a good comedy spot. WWE doesn't need to be serious all the time, but if they place their spots better it will have little/no effect.

2) Goodbye Hornswoggle. I understand he's popular with kids, but he's stale. They are simply repackaging him now as Charlie Haas. Hornswoggle destroys everything he touches. Jamie Noble, the Crusierweight title, Chavo, ect. I have a hard time taking them seriously anymore.

3) Lame skits. Back to point 1, but still some of these lame skits have to go. I had a problem with Raw's got talent to the exception of the Master's thing. (That was good). But we also had, The Price is Raw which sucked royally. Also it seems that these guest hosts just don't care. I mean, it seemed to me like Barker, Sharpton, Kyle Busch (Kofi Johnson, Kingston come on) just don't care about the show. They want to promote their own stuff. Now Shaq was good, Ben was good, and Ozzy was okay (Sharon was annoying. Really.) but they are the outliers.

That's pretty much it. Nothing about repackaging superstars, elevating superstars, or getting rid of the hosts (though I am one more bad host away from going that way). They just need to stop trying so hard and let the show go more smoothly

 

[Caustic]

Some good points have been made, just thought I would tag on a few thoughts...

--I can't blame the talents for anything but botched moves on Raw. They all have a very difficult job to perform every night, and the pressure of a live show is intense. Raw's talent have severe restrictions on their promos as well. Almost everything they say is scripted and changed until the last minute before they leave the curtain. Tough job, not everyone can do it and do it well.

--I agree that Raw needs a tag division again. Having JeriShow hold the belts was a good idea at first, but now it is making two shows suffer. I hated the brand split since it began, so if you are sticking with the idea then split the belts back up.

--From a creative standpoint, I hate when Raw goes to commercials. They always interrupt the match, and it is always cued as one wrestler throws the other to the outside. It is predictable and old, and it lessens the importance of the matches themselves -- specifically the main event. Before you pelt me with "commercials sell the show", that is the exact point I am going to get at. The product of wrestling (sports entertainment, blah blah blah) is placed second in priority to making money. And bluntly so. Does a baseball game go to a commercial when in the middle of an inning? Does a hockey game just cut out while the play is still going? No. They at least wait until a logical rest break.
The viewer/audience is disrespected. If this was such an intense match, or a main event that everyone must must must see, then why did you cut to a---oh right, you want me to buy the pay per view...and Castrol Motor Oil...and the newest GTA game...and wow NOTHING happened during the commercial. Do you know what this does? It makes people not care about what you are trying to show. Their attention is split.

--Factions. Remember the good ol' days of factions? Where are the Ministrys, the DXs, the Evolutions, Corporations, etc etc? Groups with 4-5 people at minimum? They were a real threat. Whenever someone pulled a win off against a heel faction, it was a big deal. Who do we have now? Legacy? It seems creative insists that factions can be credible with 3 people and absolutely no more. I disagree. There needs to be a superpower on Raw. Legacy is not it. Raw needs a real threat!

--Ditch the Raw Guest Host idea or get a host who has some inkling about the WWE and Raw. Or make sure they can act like it. A few weeks ago when those idiot nascar drivers (who gives a damn about their names?) hosted, they made me sick and sorry for Raw. They were terrible. A LOT of the guest hosts have been terrible. So far the only two in my memory that were decent were Bob Barker (he can at least act) and Snoop (he's a wrestling fan and sounded like he knew what he was doing). But have the guest hosts really done anything revolutionary to Raw with all this "power" the Raw GM has? Nope, because we know they are just vessels for the writers to keep pushing their agendas and storylines. Nothing shocking. Just a "buy my new book/dvd", do a 5 minute segment where you don't care to get the wrestlers names right for the main event, then f*ck off after you drop the mic.

More disrespect to the viewer. How are we supposed to care if we are not catered to?

 

[E-Money]

one place where raw could use the improvement is in divas wrestling. The only two divas that i consider to be decent wrestlers are gail kim and melina. I always find myself tuning out the program whenever the divas matches come on. i see the same things in every one of there matches... through a punch, a kick and a closeline (and a botched move thrown in there every once and awhile). if they can spend more time teaching there divas how to have decent matches i think they will keep there viewers for longer and it will improve there programing.

 

[Bilawal]

Another main eventer. because Cena vs Orton is becoming dull. Fusing Smackdown and Raw so that each PPV can have fresh main event matches. Ditch gues host, this is lame. Not be PG to bring in ratings, possibly keep smackdown PG and RAW for teh adults. Oh and Edge.

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

I'd say:

1) Scrap the Guest Host stuff, it's not helping. Guys might tune in one week for a sports star, but they aren't going to hang around the next 2 weeks for guys like Al Sharpton and The Osbournes. A little fact, i was actually thinking of staying up late last week to watch Raw (because i had a week's holiday and Raw is on at 1am in the UK when it's live) but as soon as i heard that BOTH Ozzy and Sharon were going to be hosting, i immediately decided not to watch.

Osbourne hatred aside, my view is that how can you have decent fueds when the man in charge changes every single week? Look at it this way. Chris Masters wins a match against MVP and wants a US title match the following week. The next week he goes to the new Guest Host and says, 'I had an impressive win last week, i'd like a title shot.' and the Host would most likely say, 'i didn't watch last week, so no.' Or, he turns around and says, 'You ain't shit! You can face Mark Henry AND MVP this week.' Now Masters has been screwed by a guest host and won't have the opportunity to get even with that Host because it's going to be someone different next week.

Austin v McMahon could never be duplicated ever again if the GM changes every single week, and one storyline that people love to see over and over, is the one where the employee beats on the employer every week. They can't use one of their most effective storylines again while this Guest Host shit continues.

2) I have no problem with comedy skits, as long as they're actually amusing. Rock ripping into announcers was always golden. An Edge and Christian promo was always golden. Austin could be hilarious, as could Foley, even Kurt Angle had me in stitches a few times before his head shaving (he was never funny after that). Now look at it. Midgets, fake Italians who we all know can wrestle very well, but is never allowed to, and 2 Main Eventers who monopolise the TV time with their skits because they don't have matches to wrestle, or fuck it, even if they do have matches to wrestle. The marquee still reads 'World W-R-E-S-T-L-I-N-G Entertainment' doesn't it? Funnily enough, it was the wrestling that always entertained me the most, and that's now what i get the least of out of 6 hours worth of WWE wrestling a week.

Mark Madden likes to keep saying that people aren't interested in fake fights and are more into real ones. Once again, stupid for him to assume what the entire world does and does not like, but in a way he's probably right. Problem is these days, is that there isn;t a fair ratio. MMA and UFC have fighting, and nothing but fighting. WWE has singing, and pyrotechnics, and comedy skits, and stupid stunts with cars being destroyed, and commercials, and finally, squeezed in there if there's still time, is the wrestling. Wrestling should have first priority and the rest in whatever order they like. Instead it's the reverse.

TNA have god awful story telling and decent wrestling.
WWE have good (if recycled) storytelling and fuck all wrestling.
UFC/MMA has fighting and a couple of interviews thrown in for some hype.

The legit fighting promotions have the right balance. The wrestling promotions are at opposite ends of the scale and need to move closer to the middle to achieve what WCW and WWF were achieving 10 years ago.

3) The wrestlers need to appear as though EVERY title is important (with the World Title being the MOST important obviously), instead of what they do now, where they seemingly don't give a shit about being a champion, until they are in the title match itself, and when they lose, they don't seem to care that they didn't win the titles either. The champion can be the best champion professional wrestling has ever seen, but if the challengers act like it's a real burden just to try and win a championship, then why the fuck will the audience care? If the challengers don't seem to care, why would the audience? How long have Cryme Tyme been there now? I don't think i've heard them or seen them cut a single promo about wanting to be the tag team champions in that whole time. So why would i want them to even have a tag title shot?

Me watching WWE in the UK, isn't going to affect the numbers that Vinnie Mac is looking at. However, i'll just mention that i NEVER watch WWE television anymore. I'm sick of Raw and have been for ages, i enjoy SD but it's on on the worst possible night of the week, i don't even know when ECW is on, but i'm not staying in JUST for Christian, and for some reason i don't watch Superstars either. Not sure why because if it's inter-promotional matches with no GM crap mixed in, then it sounds like the perfect hour of wrestling for a fan like me, but again, i don't stay in to watch 3 matches of wrestling, where only one of them will last longer than 10 minutes.

That's why i watch the PPVS baby. All the best bits will be in a video package anyway. It's why i'm not fussed about not seeing any of this Kofi/Orton fued. All i'm really missing is Kofi's promo work, because everything else is old news and done before, so i won't have missed anything important until SSeries when they actually wrestle.

 

[mayhem]

Anyone else think that Raw is the worst it has ever been? Looking at Smackdown and ECW many would agree that these two shows are putting on better wrestling and better feuds.

Raw is using stale celebrity guest hosts for higher ratings whom clog up the show by trying to get over. Cena is WWE champion again, wasted talent like MVP, Swagger and Bourne are not being used correctly. Hornswoggle is getting pushed above other talent and featured more. Dx are as stale as ever for promos and Jeri Show have held the tag titles for a long time.

Randy Orton is now feuding with Kofi Kingston who in all due respect is not at his level yet. Really creative needs to think about how the "A" show could be improved greatly. Thoughts on Raw at the moment?

 

[thekingofkings24]

well yeah u are right i think week by week raw keeps going down n ecw and smackdown go up i mean dx is getting stale hopefully some one turns heel on ss ppv and yeah kofy is not on ortons level yet i say yet cause kofi will b in his level by next year n yeah people like swagger bourne mvp masters henry ect..... need a fued and im also still wating for the face turn of ted n cody but i guess ill still b waiting...

 

[PercyHarvin=future]

No it's not, it is definetly near an all time low but raw of 2006 was just horrible. All it was was all about DX which got annoying. Vince McMahon vs god are u fucking kidding me?? Spirt Squad dominated the tag team scene?? Wow the only good thing that happened in 2006is that rated RKO was formed. And the midcard scene???? Hahaha are u kidding there wasn't one. So ya right now it's not the best but at least there trying to do something with the mid-card and tag team division

 

[FloydFixation]

Why do you complain about Kofi Kingston feuding with Randy Orton? Everyone wants the WWE to establish new wrestlers and this feud for Kofi will do just that for him. This is a feud that has been going on for only two weeks, but I see it going on for nearly as long as the HBK/Y2J feud last year. Kofi had dropped his accent and this feud will do wonders for him. I see him to be WWE Champ next year.

As for RAW being stale, it goes in patterns. Before the attitude era RAW Is WAR was stale. But know how predictable he is, Sidious will come and say I'm making excuses for RAW, blah, blah, blah. It may be stale, but it's still good to watch, in my opinion of course. Do I get tired of seeing Hornswoggle do his stuff? Yeah. Should he be in the WWE? No. Are MVP, Swagger, and Evan Bourne being wasted? No. They are getting air time. Evan Bourne is in the US title hunt. It may not seem like it, but he is.

Another thing is make up your mind. Do you want short title reigns or long title reigns. Chris Jericho and Big Show are doing wonders for the Unified Tag Team title. Building prestige for the titles.

Now to the real question. Do I think RAW is at it's worst? I do not. RAW was at it's worst when they brought in the UFC guys like Ken Shamrock and Dan Severn. They could fight a whole lot, but didn't fit in the WWE. So RAW is not at its worst right now.

 

[Mannic]

Anyone else think that Raw is the worst it has ever been? Looking at Smackdown and ECW many would agree that these two shows are putting on better wrestling and better feuds.

Give it time they are trying to put a few new feuds together.. no more cena Vs orton every ppv that alone should make most ppl happy

Raw is using stale celebrity guest hosts for higher ratings whom clog up the show by trying to get over.

Yes you cant name very many ppl that actually like the guest host crap i still think they should have tried to get someone like bishoff to come back and be a fulltime GM or better yet just drop the whole "GM" title and no worry about it at all..

Cena is WWE champion again, wasted talent like MVP, Swagger and Bourne are not being used correctly. Hornswoggle is getting pushed above other talent and featured more.

Yes i agree MVP is wasted talent he should be turned back into the super heel he once was when everyone actually loved him and loved to hate him..

Swagger isn't great on the mic no point to push someone let them develop over time get him into the feud they are pushing with him and The Miz (who is prob one of the best people RAW has atm)

Bourne is like a Hot female in a sense that yes hes good to look at in the ring when hes wrestling but what else does he have going for him? I swear ive never heard him say a word on the mic.. and that doesn't work with anyone..

And then theres Hornswoggle.. you have to rememeber its PG Era time atm the kids LOVE him.. and hes over with the crowds at every show.. when he comes out do you ever hear boo chants? no never.. so just l2deal with it when it comes to seeing him he wont be going anywhere anytime soon.

Dx are as stale as ever for promos and Jeri Show have held the tag titles for a long time.

Dx is stale yes but again they are a crowd favorite and they sell merchandise and you said you were tired of the same ppl and the same feuds.. do you realize Dx bar this ppv has kept Triple H out of the title picture for quite some time? which is a blessing in its own..

Mad that Jerishow is still the tag champs? there are a total of what 4 tagteams in all of the wwe atm? They are fresh and new and no one else really should be champs atm since there is no one else that sticks out.. mvp/henry.. make shift team that was throw together not great.. Crime Tyme.. one of the worst tag teams ever ppl wonder why they have never been tag champs its quite obvious when you see them in the ring. Ted/Cody they have other things going on atm and hoping for a breakup so Teddy can go on his own.. Only people I could maybe say can get a push as champs would be Heart Dynasty but even they ONLY fight crime tyme..

At least Jericho is prob the best person on the mic and loved by most ppl and is one of the biggest heels in the wwe atm.. ive yet to complain that i see him on every show big show i could care less about tho

Randy Orton is now feuding with Kofi Kingston who in all due respect is not at his level yet.

You complain about bad feuds they are FINALLY doing something new and your bashing them for it? let them wrestle see how things work out its quite pointless to bash them. I have never been a fan of Kofi but again another one loved by the fans/Crowd so he will get pushed.. Let it work out let them have a real 1 on 1 match and see how it works out.. I am liking Kofi's new attitude lets see where it goes..

Really creative needs to think about how the "A" show could be improved greatly. Thoughts on Raw at the moment?

Yes it needs fixing but give it time let new feuds develop dont complain about them before they even have 1 match.. you want new fueds and new champions but if you don't give the mid card guys a chance to get pushed (like kofi) then what feuds do you expect?

 

[CFH]

Absolutely, Raw has never been worse, Raw used to be a show that I looked forward to and was entertained by. Now, I don't even watch Raw that much. Its just poorly written and booked, not to mention the lame celebrityy guest hosts that make the show even worser than it is.

Right now, Raw's main event scene is boring, I mean I wouldn't mind seeing hhh, orton, cena and michaels in the main event all the time if they were involved in entertaining fueds with eachother, but when you do the samething with the same people it gets boring, fast. Add a lack of good build for their mid-card wrestlers, a pinch of boring women's wrestling, a side of a lack of mic time for the young guns, and a table spoon of annoying faces and boring, slow talking, uncharasmatic heels and you got a pretty crappy product.

In terms of kofi vs. orton, I find it to be the only thing worth watching on Raw right now. Like I said, there's a lack of build for the mid-card wrestlers so putting kofi in an angle with a main eventer like randy and the legacy will help bring him to a boring title scene that he can hopefully bring something new to. I'd also like to see d.x disband and one member fueds with swagger and the other can fued with the miz, that way you could have three new main event wrestlers.