Raw 8/31/09 LD, featuring Cody's Dad

[SavageTaker]

Hopefully they start pushing Beth Phoenix again with this win.

 

[klunderbunker]

Beth needs the title back so her pose doesn't look stupid.

 

[klunderbunker]

B....b.....b....back to back matches???

 

[Neil]

25 minutes in and no signs of DX...

 

[klunderbunker]

Yeah I didn't think so.

 

[Tastycles]

Beth is the most directionless wrestler going. She'll probably win tonight, lose to Gail Kim in about a month, and then go back to doing basically nothing.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I thought it was over the top rope battle royal?

 

[Phoenix]

Bloody hell, straight into a second match, I'm liking this. Best Raw in a while it looks to be

 

[klunderbunker]

Beth is the most directionless wrestler going. She'll probably win tonight, lose to Gail Kim in about a month, and then go back to doing basically nothing.

So she's like every other Diva?

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

I would have thought that "Unified Tag Team Champions" would mean that they would physically eliminate the two sets of Tag Titles and combine them into one. But I guess that makes too much sense. It looks ridiculous seeing them come out with two sets of titles a piece for one championship.

 

[klunderbunker]

I would have thought that "Unified Tag Team Champions" would mean that they would physically eliminate the two sets of Tag Titles and combine them into one. But I guess that makes too much sense. It looks ridiculous seeing them come out with two sets of titles a piece.

It tells me they're not sure on the unified thing sticking around.

 

[Tyrath]

I would have thought that "Unified Tag Team Champions" would mean that they would physically eliminate the two sets of Tag Titles and combine them into one. But I guess that makes too much sense. It looks ridiculous seeing them come out with two sets of titles a piece.

While you're right that they should probably combine the belts, I've always thought the way Jericho carried 2 belts was awesome.

 

[RageBattle]

Do you want to see a new set of "platinum" belts? Really?

 

[DrFeelgood624]

I thought it was over the top rope battle royal?

I understand why it wasn't after seeing how horrible it looked with Rosa, Jillian, and Alicia forcing themselves over the top rope

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

I thought it was over the top rope battle royal?

For some reason, they never enforce this rule for the Divas. Why they bother calling it "over the top" is beyond me.

 

[Tastycles]

So she's like every other Diva?

Almost, but they have direction, in that they are pointed down. Beth and Mickie are the only ones that are actually pushed on Raw, and usually in alternating periods. Inconsistently booked is perhaps what I should have said.

 

[klunderbunker]

There's a dozen threads on why the Divas suck right now, but the biggest to me: there are no characters. Jillian is a singer, and that's about it. At least on Raw that is.

 

[Tastycles]

Is Vontavius a real name? Not his real name, just somebody's.

 

[Neil]

Charles Robinson. Now he's a referee.

 

[Phoenix]

Show vs. Henry is announced? Oh great!

But it's getting an impressive line up of wrestling!

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

There's a dozen threads on why the Divas suck right now, but the biggest to me: there are no characters. Jillian is a singer, and that's about it. At least on Raw that is.

I got in a huge argument with someone about this, who said it is absolutely ridiculous why the Divas can't get over on their wrestling, alone. Can't remember who it was, but they claimed that it is Gail Kim's fault why she isn't getting over with the crowd. He didn't think that characters were needed.

EDIT: I just checked and it was General Disarray that made those comments.

But you can't blame creative for Kim not getting over, you have to blame Gail Kim.


It's the same creative team for the whole Diva's division, and none of them get mic time. It's not creative's fault that some people don't get over while others like Mickie, Beth, Maria and Kelly do. It is entirely Gail Kim's fault that she isn't over with the crowd, as a pro wrestler it is her responsiblity and part of her job requirment to do so.

As I said bafore, Diva's hardly ever get mic time, it literally only happens like once every 3 months.

No, Gail Kim has not given the fans a reason to cheer for Gail Kim.

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=62054

 

[DrFeelgood624]

The Last time i remember someone tapping to the Walls was Paul London, besides the old dudes at Wrestlemania. Am I forgetting someone?

 

[klunderbunker]

Yeah because they're really given the time to get over on their wrestling. The way they're booked that's not enough.

 

[SavageTaker]

It was GD LS.

I wonder how things would be if Trish and Lita stayed in wrestling.

 

[RageBattle]

They are booked like shit in the ring and out.