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Randy Orton.

He's been off TV for a couple of months, maybe a royal rumble appearance? I do not for the life of me know why no one has mentioned him among all the daniel bryan/roman reigns talk.

They wanted to do seth rollins vs randy orton? This would be the perfect way to set it up would it not? I reckon it would be a great program as well. When he left Randy was red hot, there are a couple of really good option for the royal rumble win now.

Thoughts?
 
I said it before, I'll say it again. I don't think he enters the Rumble. I think he comes out of nowhere to interfere in the championship match.

I think somehow it gets to a point where Cena pins Lesnar to win the belt. Rollins comes out of nowhere to curb stomp Cena and officially cash in his briefcase and just as he thinks he is about to win the title, Orton pops up out of nowhere to RKO him, puts Cena on top for the 3 count to retain it.

This sets up the Orton/Rollins feud for WrestleMania. It pits Orton/Cena both against The Authority. It also makes Lesnar even more furious that he lost the belt and he wants some revenge on the Authority, too.

Although, I guess it's also possible Rollins wins the belt and Orton wins Rumble to set up a WrestleMania match for the title, but I find that far less likely.
 
If he is able to come back for the Rumble, physically, it would be stupid to not have him do so. He is literally the only big name of the current guys that have been out for a while that would still be a surprise, which is one of the most fun parts of the Rumble match.

I guess it depends on when the matches happen. I forget, but is the Rumble match itslef the last one on or will it be the Championship three-way? If it goes Rumble then Championship there is no reason he can't do both. Obviously, if the championship is first, his coming out would be the big surprise return, and it wouldn't be likely he would then enter the Rumble match...
 
I said it before, I'll say it again. I don't think he enters the Rumble. I think he comes out of nowhere to interfere in the championship match.

I think somehow it gets to a point where Cena pins Lesnar to win the belt. Rollins comes out of nowhere to curb stomp Cena and officially cash in his briefcase and just as he thinks he is about to win the title, Orton pops up out of nowhere to RKO him, puts Cena on top for the 3 count to retain it.

This sets up the Orton/Rollins feud for WrestleMania. It pits Orton/Cena both against The Authority. It also makes Lesnar even more furious that he lost the belt and he wants some revenge on the Authority, too.

Although, I guess it's also possible Rollins wins the belt and Orton wins Rumble to set up a WrestleMania match for the title, but I find that far less likely.

Your scenario makes so much more sense and honestly I would want to see Orton make his shocking return by costing Rollins the title

Because think about it, Cena wins the WWE World Heavyweight Championship by pinning Brock to become a 16-time World Champion tying Flair's record, history is made

And just when Cena is about to celebrate with his newly won title, Rollins from behind attacks Cena and then leaves him laying Curb Stomping Cena into the mat and then you have Rollins hand over his briefcase to the referee telling him to ring the bell and that he is cashing in his briefcase

It is officially a championship match and Rollins just when he is about to pin Cena, Orton comes rushing out of the crowd and over the barricade, Orton is in the ring and RKOs Rollins because J & J Security as well as the rest of the Authority are backstage while all of this is happening because Rollins earlier on in the night could say that he wants to do this on his own to prove to people that he doesn't need The Authority or J & J to win matches

Well anyway back to your scenario, Orton RKOs Rollins and then drags Cena's arm over Rollins, Orton leaves the ring area through the crowd, the referee makes the pin, Cena retains his newly won WWE World Heavyweight Championship

Rollins loses his cash-in losing his Money in the Bank briefcase losing his chance to become WWE World Heavyweight Champion all because of Randy Orton

Sets up Orton to not only feud with Rollins but it sets Orton up to feud with The Authority in general as a whole
 
I think Orton will cost Rollins the title at the Royal Rumble match and/or either prevent him from cashing in his MITB contract or screw him over after he does cash in, thereby making him the 3rd MITB contract holder to fail to capture the title. If the idea is for Orton vs. Rollins for WrestleMania, this would be a logical way to do it.

As for Orton in the Royal Rumble match itself, it could very well happen. Even if it does, however, there's little chance of him winning. WWE fans, at least quite a lot of them, have made it abundantly clear that they're no longer interested in Randy Orton as WWE World Heavyweight Champion. They made that perfectly well known last year as the proposed Orton vs. Batista title match may have been the most underwhelming title main event in WrestleMania history. In my opinion, Orton vs. Lesnar will not sell ppvs or a whole lotta network subscriptions because, as I just said, most fans aren't interested in Orton as champion anymore. I believe a lot of fans will see it as WWE giving a career defining moment, namely being the 1 to beat the 1 in 21 and 1, to a guy that doesn't really need it, has already done everything there is to do and has been a guaranteed first ballot Hall of Famer for several years already.

I know Vince has a notoriously slow learning curve sometimes and the result is, currently, a distinct lack of credible main event level babyfaces to go up against Lesnar that fans are behind, is fresh and is capable of shining in the spot. The only ones right now who fit all that criteria is Daniel Bryan and POSSIBLY Dean Ambrose. Ambrose has a good deal of popularity, he's pretty strong inside the ring, he knows how to handle himself on the mic, but he doesn't have a huge level of momentum right now and I don't think two months is enough time to build him up to where he needs to be.
 
Besides with Orton costing Rollins the title, it makes sense given that Rollins he is the one who took Orton out Curb Stomping Orton on the steel steps and Orton hasn't been seen or heard from since he hasn't been mentioned ever since and there is a reason for that? Plus Orton vs Rollins WrestleMania 31 does make a whole hell of a lot of sense especially with the title not being in the picture with these 2, their rivalry could get a whole lot more personal think about it
 
I have a sneaky feeling (about 5% of me) orton's going to win the Rumble and face Lesnar at Mania, who had pinned Rollins in the triple threat before the actual Rumble match which i think will be the main event of the night
Then Ortons victory speech on the post-Rumble Raw, he calls out Rollins for taking him out of action for a couple of months and then to close that feud Orton and Rollins face off at Fast Lane.

However...
The majority of me feels that Rollins loses the triple threat to Brock with a screwy finish and no chance to cash in, and then the authority put rollins in the Rumble match really late on and Orton makes his return and comes in #30 and eliminates Rollins and then RKO's everyone and then Rollins somehow screws Orton out the match by distraction or re-entering illegally like Kurt Angle 2005 Rumble style. I dont know how the feud lasts all the way to mania but majority of me feels like this scenario going to happen
 
I had posted my opinion about Randy Orton in RR in an obsolete post. Here is a little reminder of it.

There at least should be one surprise entrant in the RR. The legendary panel and the commentary team, the advertisers and everyone are playing this part close to the chest about Randy. It would be an electrifying moment for Randy to make a surprise entrant in the RR probably after #23 somewhere.

I don't mind him interfering Seth Rollins chance of winning the title either. And we know in a triple threat match the rules are No Disqualification. So it would be a face interference of Randy during the match.

In other perspective if either Brock or John won the match and when Seth tries to cash in the interference of Randy will be more than just awesome. Let's see what we gotta see this Sunday

Cheers!!
 
Well, why not let him do both? Nothing wrong with that. Obviously, the reason to keep his comeback a secret is to get optimal reaction from the live fans, but I do not think the reaction would change either way. It would depend on the order of the card, and most now are assuming that the Title match will be the main event, I see nothing wrong with him entering the rumble and also interfering in the title match. After the rumble match, the interference will not be a big surprise, but it shouldn't really matter. The crowd will be happy to see him take out Rollins.
 
Well, why not let him do both? Nothing wrong with that. Obviously, the reason to keep his comeback a secret is to get optimal reaction from the live fans, but I do not think the reaction would change either way. It would depend on the order of the card, and most now are assuming that the Title match will be the main event, I see nothing wrong with him entering the rumble and also interfering in the title match. After the rumble match, the interference will not be a big surprise, but it shouldn't really matter. The crowd will be happy to see him take out Rollins.

I think that would be a good idea, though. The best way to do it is have Orton come out in the Rumble, be one of the Final 4, get distracted by Rollins and get eliminated, then come out later to get his revenge (although we would see it coming, it would make a lot of sense) by taking out Rollins and making him unable to cash in (but not lose the briefcase).
 
Randy Orton.

He's been off TV for a couple of months, maybe a royal rumble appearance? I do not for the life of me know why no one has mentioned him among all the daniel bryan/roman reigns talk.

They wanted to do seth rollins vs randy orton? This would be the perfect way to set it up would it not? I reckon it would be a great program as well. When he left Randy was red hot, there are a couple of really good option for the royal rumble win now.

Thoughts?

It would make a lot of sense. If it was up to me, I'd have Orton interfere and cost Rollins the title, leading to a match between Rollins and Orton at Fast Lane.

However, WWE doesn't always do what makes sense. Just like with the return of Reigns, they had him talking junk about Rollins yet they had him return with the match Rollins was in and he went after Big Show instead.

It wouldn't surprise me if WWE has Orton return to cost Rollins the match and they have him and Orton face off on RAW instead of Fast Lane and then have Orton feud with Bray and put him over.
 
^^^^ why in the world would Orton feud with Bray? If you can't get Bray over after feuds with Daniel Bryan, Cena and Ambrose... it's possible he may never get over.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if WWE has Orton return to cost Rollins the match and they have him and Orton face off on RAW instead of Fast Lane and then have Orton feud with Bray and put him over.

I have to ask the question, why on earth would he be feuding with Bray Wyatt? What history do the two of them have? There is none that I can see. Actually Wyatt didn't have history with Jericho, Ambrose and half the guys he's feuded with but that never stopped him.

And like MERPER said, he's already been in feuds with guys on the top of the roster and hasn't gotten over, so maybe the WWE has to start looking at the common denominator, Bray Wyatt.
 
There is no one on the roster I hate more than Randy Orton (cept maybe Bo Dallas)
I really hope they don't allow him to be a huge factor in either the Rumble match or the Three way dance. Bury that 4 move clown in the mid-card. Take Cena while you're at it.
 
I have to ask the question, why on earth would he be feuding with Bray Wyatt? What history do the two of them have? There is none that I can see. Actually Wyatt didn't have history with Jericho, Ambrose and half the guys he's feuded with but that never stopped him.

And like MERPER said, he's already been in feuds with guys on the top of the roster and hasn't gotten over, so maybe the WWE has to start looking at the common denominator, Bray Wyatt.

To put Bray over. They have none at all. Exactly! WWE do what they're want and I see they can have tunnel vision at times, pushing certain talent even if it's at the expense of other talent. Look at the Bray's match on Monday? Who did he face? Bryan, a potential Royal Rumble match winner and one of the top faces in the company, they could have had Bray win by DQ due to Kane interfering going after Bryan, however, they insisted on having Bryan pinning him. Meanwhile, you got another potential Royal Rumble winner in Roman Reigns, who's been heavily protected since his return.

I agree. I like Bray Wyatt. I'm not a fan of all of his latest push. His push ruined the climax of the Rollins/Ambrose feud. They seem to be trying to push him as their next big heel but he may be better off being a face, based on his reactions he received feuding with Cena, however, they continue to be stubborn having him be a heel.
 
To put Bray over. They have none at all. Exactly! WWE do what they're want and I see they can have tunnel vision at times, pushing certain talent even if it's at the expense of other talent. Look at the Bray's match on Monday? Who did he face? Bryan, a potential Royal Rumble match winner and one of the top faces in the company, they could have had Bray win by DQ due to Kane interfering going after Bryan, however, they insisted on having Bryan pinning him. Meanwhile, you got another potential Royal Rumble winner in Roman Reigns, who's been heavily protected since his return.

I agree. I like Bray Wyatt. I'm not a fan of all of his latest push. His push ruined the climax of the Rollins/Ambrose feud. They seem to be trying to push him as their next big heel but he may be better off being a face, based on his reactions he received feuding with Cena, however, they continue to be stubborn having him be a heel.

Okay I see what you mean, but as long as you have Rollins and the Authority ruling the roost, Wyatt will never be the next big heel. That position has been given to Rollins and he's running with it. Doing a damm fine job as well.

Wyatt don't know what they'll do with him, but he's a momentum killer and nothing ever seems to come from his feuds with anyone.
 
Okay I see what you mean, but as long as you have Rollins and the Authority ruling the roost, Wyatt will never be the next big heel. That position has been given to Rollins and he's running with it. Doing a damm fine job as well.

Wyatt don't know what they'll do with him, but he's a momentum killer and nothing ever seems to come from his feuds with anyone.

Yeah true. Rollins is awesome! He's definitely been a great surprise. I guess he could be the #2 heel. WWE seems to be lacking in main event caliber heels which explains why WWE is pushing Kane and Show hard.

Yeah it's unfortunate. I thought he could have had his moment at WrestleMania, the crowd was really into him but that loss hurt him bad and he's yet to recover from it.
 
They kept him off TV, I think; so when he returns at the Rumble it's more of a surprise, more of a shocker. I definitely see him being a part in the Rumble, although that seems like it's too small of a role for him to be playing. I think he's gonna pop up in the championship match. I see him costing Rollins the belt. Maybe starting a good feud with him and Rollins, maybe some program with Lesnar. Who knows? Tons of possibilities.
 

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