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Thejock83

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The main thing I take from these forums is the amount of complaining that occurs with regards to booking and character development, so here's a challenge for the arm chair bookers: can you actually write/layout/book a week of WWE TV?

I don't mean "I'd put X versus y and X would win". I mean:

RAW runs for 2hrs 20mins, roughly. Smackdown 1hr 40mins. Can you lay out 2 shows, with timings, script promos, book matches, interviews, and all the other things we see each week?

Go on, give it a try!
 
I understand what you mean but that is a bogus dare. It is like saying you can't complain about a movie sucking because you have never written a script. I don't need to write the show to know it is bad. As for booking, no we can't write a week that would work for one simple reason - look at the mess it is in. If i wanted to write a week of great shows, i first have to write 3 months building up to it so I can move the people in the right direction. I write that next week Wyatt defeats Taker, are you going to say it is a great idea based off of Wyatt's past losses? I would need to build up to it in order for it to make sense so no I can't write just one week but that doesn't mean my criticisms of wwe are not valid.
 
Too bad half the people on this site don't get paid six figures to create a compelling wrestling show like the WWE writers. I don't care "how hard it is" or that "we don't understand", they get paid to put on an entertaining wrestling show and 9 times out of 10 they fail to do that. That's on them. If you're no good at your job, than you don't deserve the money your making to do that job, period.
 
I don't even see why they'd need to do that much writing. Why not just make more room for lower card matches? How can guys like Curtis Axel, Sandow or Fandango ever get over if they aren't even on TV? I'd rather them trim off 5 minutes from the opening segment to dedicate to a match I don't see often. The whole 'Rusev/Lana' on Miz TV segment is another one that did not need to be that long. I'd rather there be more wrestling on these wrestling programs.
 
Whether I can write in that format is irrelevant. Most of the writers they have brought in over thew years have had little experience writing for WWE, much less in their format. It's how you write a story.

And as mentioned, you don't have to be a writer to know you don't like a story or an idea. You don't have to play guitar to know you hate how someone plays.

Let's ask a better question: What is the point of the Lana/ Rusev segment if no story's being progressed? Who's Rusev feuding with? If the answer is nothing and no one, why did you waste that much time with that segment?

Or some better questions: Who is the main event picture pushing? Sheamus is a former world champion who's been relegated to mid card with the likes of Randy Orton so pushing him serves no one if it isn't sustained. Roman Reigns has been pushed to the exclusion of everyone else and they still don't want him to have the belt until conditions are perfect (and good luck with that). Who is in a position to succeed here, and who will be able to step up to feud with when this slapdash feud goes sour? I love the Dudley Boyz and Tommy Dreamer but what is the point of their feud with the Wyatts? The Wyatts have moved to feuding to so many different people for no reason and come out losing most of the time for what purpose? Who are you advancing when you bury the most over stable you have, outside of the New Day?

I certainly don't have to write TV or know how to to know bad ideas and shoddy booking when I see it. And if I did write it and got paid what they are, I'd feel horrible for the results.

Honestly if you want to see how it should be done, watch NXT. Smartest writing anyone in the WWE has done for years, and their shows last an hour.
 
I'm glad someone else thinks this besides me!!! I think people have lost their remotesmlol!!! People need some cheese to go with this whine. Lol. Last time I seen this much crying and complaining was when cm punk felt cheated lol.

What do you call a fair weathered fan? A WZ poster. Lol. See its not supposed to be funny cause its true. You all are sad!
 
Acctually if you browse the site you would see pretty good fantasy booking of PPVs and RAWs leading to it. So its not some rocket science to put on matches and whole build up leading to them.
 
Actually I think a better argument for this thread title is more along the lines that if you want someone pushed, start buying their merch. So many people complain on here how Wrestler X isn't pushed. If they don't make the WWE money, they won't get pushed.

I always love hearing the argument about only so many items for that wrestler. Well, ignoring the obvious supply and demand argument, who cares? Buy what's there. So many fans on here think cheering and booing is the way to voice their opinions. Newsflash: WWE is a business. They care about money.

On a related note, I think WWE should start making their own "Cesaro Section" signs and selling them at the arena.
 
Too bad half the people on this site don't get paid six figures to create a compelling wrestling show like the WWE writers. I don't care "how hard it is" or that "we don't understand", they get paid to put on an entertaining wrestling show and 9 times out of 10 they fail to do that. That's on them. If you're no good at your job, than you don't deserve the money your making to do that job, period.

EXACTLY. I have a full-time job that doesn't pay me nearly as well as WWE writers. I am not going to spend 1-2 hours or more writing a deep, compelling show script for this site just to make some forum members happy.

Furthermore, as was eluded to before, it's not just one week that needs fixing, it's a few months of angles and storylines that need to be re-done and re-imagined that takes a ton of time.
 
What's truly amazing is the amount of these exact threads being made. Why are people complaining about people complaining? That's far more frustrating
 
The main thing I take from these forums is the amount of complaining that occurs with regards to booking and character development, so here's a challenge for the arm chair bookers: can you actually write/layout/book a week of WWE TV?

I don't mean "I'd put X versus y and X would win". I mean:

RAW runs for 2hrs 20mins, roughly. Smackdown 1hr 40mins. Can you lay out 2 shows, with timings, script promos, book matches, interviews, and all the other things we see each week?

Go on, give it a try!

First of all I noticed you didn't give it a try.

Sorry I'm not into fantasy booking. If I was I'd have joined the E-Fed months ago. And believe it or not I feel sorry for these guys in creative. It takes months to build up a character and get a story line going. I can just imagine how they must feel when one of the players goes down with an injury. It's back to square one.

But that's the whole problem with RAW right now. If you watch it weekly, you''ll see it's the same people we see all the time. When one or more goes out, it throws a spanner into the works, because they have nothing in reserve. A new viewer to the WWE would think there was only about 20 wrestlers on the entire roster, when in fact there are much more. The rest we rarely ever see on TV.
 
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If the only point of creating something is to prove to you that I can, then I'll pass.

I respect writing. I respect the ability for writers to collaborate, as this is not an easy thing to do. And, I respect the ability for this collaboration to manage so many moving parts at the same time.

However, there is a difference between doing a job and doing a job well, and the WWE writers seem to be solidly locked into the first category, whatever the reasons may be. As several have mentioned above, spending some time creating a week of storyline material is one thing, doing it for the entire year is another. Then, take into account injuries and storylines that need to be scrapped, and the difficulty level spikes.

I personally think that the WWE plays both their short and long term games poorly. Their short term booking is abysmal. They barely promote week to week matches, and give little reason to tune in the next week, besides, of course, "see what happens". Occasionally, we get a Smackdown match announced on RAW, but Smackdown isn't a big deal, and often, those advertised matches aren't either. Like many have said, you've got to get viewers thinking, "I need to see next week's show", as soon as this week's show goes off the air. The WWE is currently failing that goal.

On the long term side, they're very hit or miss. The Daniel Bryan slow burn worked, and would have been even better had Bryan not gone down to injury. But, the Roman Reigns build isn't working, and hasn't worked well before. Why? Because they're not adapting the storyline well to suit the reaction. They have a long term plan and are sticking to it, regardless of how many fans tell them, "we don't want to see this storyline". By doing so, they leave fans with two options, stop watching, or sit through something they don't like. Neither is a good thing.
 
Sorry I'm not into fantasy booking. If I was I'd have joined the E-Fed months ago. And believe it or not I feel sorry for these guys in creative. It takes months to build up a character and get a story line going. I can just imagine how they must feel when one of the players goes down with an injury. It's back to square one.

Being a member of the e-fed, and now a member of Creative, I'm just going to point to this. I've also written what was a well-received Book This.

But most people that have posted here are right. It's not our job to write and book the shows. It's their job. They're paid to do it. And they need to be better at it. Some prime examples of shitty writing and booking are CM Punk returning 2 weeks after his pipebomb promo, or Sgt. Slaughter being an Iraq sympathizer 6 months after the war had ended. It's not my job to fix those things. It's on the writers.
 

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