Punk vs Rock - promo battle

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

It's a rather interesting thought you know. Inside the premises of the WWE, I can never see Punk beating Rock in a promo battle simply because he will never be booked to do so and even Rock won't allow it. I am sure that if Punk tries any shoot style, unplanned comment on Rock, Rock's lawyers will be all over Punk and Vince.

I do however think that Punk is wittier than Rock and can think on his feet faster than him. In an ideal world I think Punk can pretty much sucker punch Rock in a promo war. Rock has, even in his best days, lacked substance in his promo cutting and Punk's style thrives on substance. When confronted with hard cold facts Rock finds it a bit hard to reply. The type of guys who speak unabashedly from their heart have always given Rocky trouble in promos. Like Cena the week before WM 27 and Austin on many occasions most notably in their shoot style promo war before WM 17. Punk is the same but Punk isn't a superstar on his level and probably never will be and so he will never be booked to win over Rock.

 

[RJJ]

That must be it. Because God knows he wasn't getting attention on his own for his promos, desire to bring back WWE Ice Cream bars, being the WWE Champion, dropping those verbal pipebombs that everyone loves...no, it's because of the mother fucking Rock. CM Punk has been spending his entire wrestling career developing his persona, his wrestling ability, winning titles, just so that one day he would be in a position to bitch about the Rock to get attention. Whatever.

I'm not saying he's not getting any attention, what I'm saying is that whenever rock comes to the show all the focus and attention is on him and cena, and that's killing punk inside. A year ago he wouldn't give a damn, but now, he believe it's his time to shine, it's his time to get all the attention, and rock's retun came in the wrong place, at the wrong time. As long as rock is in the show punk is not the main focus.


This whole scenerio reminds me of 2002 when hogan came back and went against rock. leaving out Austin, who was busting his ass with a bad neck(According to austin the match with hogan was never in the book, so don't bother bring that up). Punk is having the same feeling that austin had at that time, frustration. Apearently, you're a hogan fan, I have a little question for you: Were you against Hogan-Rock WM match? No need to say anything, I already know the answer to this.

 

[Davi323]

I'm not saying he's not getting any attention, what I'm saying is that whenever rock comes to the show all the focus and attention is on him and cena, and that's killing punk inside. A year ago he wouldn't give a damn, but now, he believe it's his time to shine, it's his time to get all the attention, and rock's retun came in the wrong place, at the wrong time. As long as rock is in the show punk is not the main focus.


This whole scenerio reminds me of 2002 when hogan came back and went against rock. leaving out Austin, who was busting his ass with a bad neck(According to austin the match with hogan was never in the book, so don't bother bring that up). Punk is having the same feeling that austin had at that time, frustration. Apearently, you're a hogan fan, I have a little question for you: Were you against Hogan-Rock WM match? No need to say anything, I already know the answer to this.

Hogan was still an active wrestler. He simply changed companies. He didn't completely abandon pro wrestling. After the WWE bought WCW, Hogan and the nWo moved companies too, not take a 7 year hiatus. So, no, I wasn't against it. I loved it. Hogan was still a relevant, contributing member of the wrestling world. If Rock had simply left the WWE to go to TNA back in 2004, but stayed a professional wrestler and then came back, it would be totally different. Your comparison simply does not hold up.

LMAO!! earned it?! could you ps stop acting like rock is some kind of a guest celeb? Rock is a wrestling ICON he already payed his dues, he already busted his ass, he already went on tours, and above all else, he draws a lot more money than punk.

I forgot to bring this up in my previous post...

Yes, actually. At this point, the Rock is a kind of guest celeb. He is a movie star, not a pro wrestler. He WAS a pro wrestler. But he gave that up, and disassociated himself from the business for years. He no longer identifies himself as a wrestler, so why should anyone else? Guys like John Cena and CM Punk, those guys are wrestlers. That's their identity. That's who they are. You cannot separate the wrestler from the man. With the Rock, you can't say that. The Rock was a wrestler because it made him money. When he started getting movie offers, he quit. Wrestling was just a means to an end, namely celebrity. Wrestling made the Rock famous, and once it did that, he had little use for it anymore.

Rock paid his dues almost a decade ago, not now. This is a "what have you done for me lately" business. Bruno Sammartino paid his dues a long time ago too, should he replace an active wrestler on the Wrestlemania card as well? Sammartino was a wrestling icon as well. Nobody would mind, right?

You simply don't get it. The Rock is part of the WWE's past. Not it's present, not it's future. He will come, collect his paycheck, and leave again. Nostalgia has it's place, but when you are talking about the main event of Wrestlemania, and the guaranteed payday that comes with it, that's the time to elevate the guys that are still going to be there the next night.

 

[RJJ]

It's a rather interesting thought you know. Inside the premises of the WWE, I can never see Punk beating Rock in a promo battle simply because he will never be booked to do so and even Rock won't allow it. I am sure that if Punk tries any shoot style, unplanned comment on Rock, Rock's lawyers will be all over Punk and Vince.

I do however think that Punk is wittier than Rock and can think on his feet faster than him. In an ideal world I think Punk can pretty much sucker punch Rock in a promo war. Rock has, even in his best days, lacked substance in his promo cutting and Punk's style thrives on substance. When confronted with hard cold facts Rock finds it a bit hard to reply. The type of guys who speak unabashedly from their heart have always given Rocky trouble in promos. Like Cena the week before WM 27 and Austin on many occasions most notably in their shoot style promo war before WM 17. Punk is the same but Punk isn't a superstar on his level and probably never will be and so he will never be booked to win over Rock.

"and Punk's style thrives on substance. When confronted with hard cold facts Rock finds it a bit hard to reply. "

What style are you talking about? The guy shoots, and trust me it is alot easier than to cut a wrestling promo. It's like fighting dirty. HHH used to shoot when he gets owned on the mic, cause it's easier for him to respond. He's done it with rock alot and it didn't work. He's done it with guys like jericho, cena, booker,..etc. Vince did the same thing also, he used to brag about how creating superstars, does that make him a great trash talker? and speaking of hard cold facts, after all the bitching, whining, and complaining rock responded to punk with one line "The Rock is the main event at Wrestlemania cause it draws more money in one night, then u will in lifetime."


"The type of guys who speak unabashedly from their heart have always given Rocky trouble in promos. Like Cena the week before WM 27 and Austin on many occasions most notably in their shoot style promo war before WM 17".

Lol can you tell me how many times did rock get the last word during the whole mic battle? Non. Clearly, the wwe is trying to make cena look better, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that since he's the top guy right now. Beside, this is a different rock, it's more of a PG version. Oh, and can you tell me how is he supposed to respond? something like "Yeah, I went hollywood to make more money..."?~ As far as austin, it's not fair to judge rock's mic skills on his promos with austin leading to WM X7, 1. We all know that rock's only weakness is cuttng serious promos, and it happens to be austin's strength, 2. The fued was based on respect, which means they can't treat each other like a piece of garbage the same way they did 2yrs prior. 3. There was no shoot. 4. It was supposed to be austin's big return, and just like cena, he always got the last word.



"Punk is the same but Punk isn't a superstar on his level and probably never will be and so he will never be booked to win over Rock."


The moment HHH got the green light, he owned punk in his own game.



Bottom line is, Rock proved that he's the best by going against the best, from austin to foley, from jericho to hhh, these names are alltime greats when it comes to mic skills. Punk has only gone against two great mic workers, cena(PG) and HHH(pretty much exposed punk)....a big fish in a small pond, IMO.

 

[RJJ]

Hogan was still an active wrestler. He simply changed companies. He didn't completely abandon pro wrestling. After the WWE bought WCW, Hogan and the nWo moved companies too, not take a 7 year hiatus. So, no, I wasn't against it. I loved it. Hogan was still a relevant, contributing member of the wrestling world. If Rock had simply left the WWE to go to TNA back in 2004, but stayed a professional wrestler and then came back, it would be totally different. Your comparison simply does not hold up.



I forgot to bring this up in my previous post...

Yes, actually. At this point, the Rock is a kind of guest celeb. He is a movie star, not a pro wrestler. He WAS a pro wrestler. But he gave that up, and disassociated himself from the business for years. He no longer identifies himself as a wrestler, so why should anyone else? Guys like John Cena and CM Punk, those guys are wrestlers. That's their identity. That's who they are. You cannot separate the wrestler from the man. With the Rock, you can't say that. The Rock was a wrestler because it made him money. When he started getting movie offers, he quit. Wrestling was just a means to an end, namely celebrity. Wrestling made the Rock famous, and once it did that, he had little use for it anymore.

Rock paid his dues almost a decade ago, not now. This is a "what have you done for me lately" business. Bruno Sammartino paid his dues a long time ago too, should he replace an active wrestler on the Wrestlemania card as well? Sammartino was a wrestling icon as well. Nobody would mind, right?

You simply don't get it. The Rock is part of the WWE's past. Not it's present, not it's future. He will come, collect his paycheck, and leave again. Nostalgia has it's place, but when you are talking about the main event of Wrestlemania, and the guaranteed payday that comes with it, that's the time to elevate the guys that are still going to be there the next night.

The hogan scenerio is even worse, it's not just switching companies. Hogan went to the rival company, he went to the enemy, not only that, but he pulled some dirty tricks trying to run the wwe out of business. Why would I give someone like that a spot in the main-event instead of giving it to the man who busted his ass night in and night out, willing to risk it(neck) all for the company he saved?

 

[Davi323]

Because Hogan didn't just appear at Wrestlemania. He was there throughout the build. He was on Monday Night Raw on a weekly basis leading up to it. Further, Hogan is the reason Wrestlemania is even around, then you have to consider the unique relationship Hogan had with Vince McMahon, and his role in turning the WWF into a global empire, and all of that. In terms of actual influence over the entire history of pro wrestling, the Rock isn't even qualified to hold Hogan's dick while he takes a piss.

OH, by the way, if the Rock is such a HUGE DRAW, go take a look at the Survivor Series buy rate thread. Rock's return to actual action? BOMBED.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

What style are you talking about? The guy shoots, and trust me it is alot easier than to cut a wrestling promo. It's like fighting dirty. HHH used to shoot when he gets owned on the mic, cause it's easier for him to respond. He's done it with rock alot and it didn't work. He's done it with guys like jericho, cena, booker,..etc. Vince did the same thing also, he used to brag about how creating superstars, does that make him a great trash talker? and speaking of hard cold facts, after all the bitching, whining, and complaining rock responded to punk with one line "The Rock is the main event at Wrestlemania cause it draws more money in one night, then u will in lifetime."

Regardless of how easy the shoot style is, The Rock finds it difficult to respond to. Sure, it's like cheating but that is like someone complaining that Rock gets all the best lines written for him every time. You need a ton of conviction in your voice to carry off a shoot promo and get the crowd to believe what they have never even heard of. Punk has that skill. The best thing that Rock would do in such a situation is respond with a genitilia joke which will get the crowd rolling but it will be a poor counter regardless.

And that more money line, also can be responded to in a number of ways. You know what would also draw a ton of money? Getting Shaqiulle O'Niell to wrestle Big Show. Getting some popular celebrities involved. Really this line is much worse than you actually think. If Rock would have responded with something like me and Cena will create a moment that you will never be able to replicate, then that would have actually been more difficult to reply to.

Lol can you tell me how many times did rock get the last word during the whole mic battle? Non. Clearly, the wwe is trying to make cena look better, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that since he's the top guy right now. Beside, this is a different rock, it's more of a PG version. Oh, and can you tell me how is he supposed to respond? something like "Yeah, I went hollywood to make more money..."?~ As far as austin, it's not fair to judge rock's mic skills on his promos with austin leading to WM X7, 1. We all know that rock's only weakness is cuttng serious promos, and it happens to be austin's strength, 2. The fued was based on respect, which means they can't treat each other like a piece of garbage the same way they did 2yrs prior. 3. There was no shoot. 4. It was supposed to be austin's big return, and just like cena, he always got the last word.

It is not about Rock getting the last word. Even his replies to Cena's barrage, which he did get a chance to do were poor. Cena even mauled him in his own game with his great rap. And how does PG and non PG matter? Had this been a non PG setting Rock would have probably added an expletive before his genitilia joke at best. No amount of expletives can help you counter an intelligent promo. And remember Cena too can handle himself in a Non-PG environment.

The moment HHH got the green light, he owned punk in his own game.

It was hardly an ideal world scenario that I was talking about. HHH would never be booked to lose to Punk in a promo war. That was supposed to be a promo war between two badasses and both guys were supposed to look equally good coming out of it but the scripting was shoddy and it even looked as if HHH and Punk had not consulted each other before the promos. Each and every line that HHH said could have been very eassily replied to.

Bottom line is, Rock proved that he's the best by going against the best, from austin to foley, from jericho to hhh, these names are alltime greats when it comes to mic skills. Punk has only gone against two great mic workers, cena(PG) and HHH(pretty much exposed punk)....a big fish in a small pond, IMO.

While all the superstars you mentioned are great superstars, the one thing that Rock benefitted from was that all these guys pretty much came up at the same time along with Rock. Their rise to stardom was almost parallel to that of The Rock. Hence, as Rock was a superstar on an equal footing with these guys, he was often booked to win his promo wars.

Punk has come up in an era where he has been a comparable nobody compared to some of the bigger names. Punk has had to fight his way up the card more than Rocky. Bigger names generally protect their reputation to stay on top for a long time. They cannot let some greenhorn destroy them. That hinders Punk's rise and hence he has been booked a bit weakly in his promos from time to time. All things given I think that the difference between Rock and Punk is as great as it seems from rose tinted glasses.

 

[ae_wrestler123]

I'm guessing a couple guys here don't get a lot of pie and don't know what it is to be a BAMF.

 

[RJJ]

Because Hogan didn't just appear at Wrestlemania. He was there throughout the build. He was on Monday Night Raw on a weekly basis leading up to it. Further, Hogan is the reason Wrestlemania is even around, then you have to consider the unique relationship Hogan had with Vince McMahon, and his role in turning the WWF into a global empire, and all of that. In terms of actual influence over the entire history of pro wrestling, the Rock isn't even qualified to hold Hogan's dick while he takes a piss.

OH, by the way, if the Rock is such a HUGE DRAW, go take a look at the Survivor Series buy rate thread. Rock's return to actual action? BOMBED.

"Because Hogan didn't just appear at Wrestlemania. He was there throughout the build. He was on Monday Night Raw on a weekly basis leading up to it."


You do realize that rock-cena WM match was announced 1yr prior? So you expect him to be on raw all year long? That will simply kill the magic. Plus, hogan just made his return one month before mania and he's already in the main event, hell he only wrestled once during that time. Austin on the other hand was busting his ass through out the whole year, and you're telling me it's fair?!


"Further, Hogan is the reason Wrestlemania is even around, then you have to consider the unique relationship Hogan had with Vince McMahon, and his role in turning the WWF into a global empire, and all of that."

Same thing can said about rock. He's an icon, and he helped in saving the co during monday night wars while hogan was trying to kill it. And I really don't know what reationship btw hogan and vince you're talking about, everyone knows they don't like each other.


"In terms of actual influence over the entire history of pro wrestling, the Rock isn't even qualified to hold Hogan's dick while he takes a piss."

In draw power and hoggin the spotlight, yes, hogan is your man, other than that he can kiss my ass. For the very least rock can do much more than posing and "hulking up" like an idiot during matches.


"OH, by the way, if the Rock is such a HUGE DRAW, go take a look at the Survivor Series buy rate thread. Rock's return to actual action? BOMBED"

based on that?! lol What till WM 28, and you'll know exactly what The Rock is cooking.

 

[RJJ]

Regardless of how easy the shoot style is, The Rock finds it difficult to respond to. Sure, it's like cheating but that is like someone complaining that Rock gets all the best lines written for him every time. You need a ton of conviction in your voice to carry off a shoot promo and get the crowd to believe what they have never even heard of. Punk has that skill. The best thing that Rock would do in such a situation is respond with a genitilia joke which will get the crowd rolling but it will be a poor counter regardless.

And that more money line, also can be responded to in a number of ways. You know what would also draw a ton of money? Getting Shaqiulle O'Niell to wrestle Big Show. Getting some popular celebrities involved. Really this line is much worse than you actually think. If Rock would have responded with something like me and Cena will create a moment that you will never be able to replicate, then that would have actually been more difficult to reply to.




It is not about Rock getting the last word. Even his replies to Cena's barrage, which he did get a chance to do were poor. Cena even mauled him in his own game with his great rap. And how does PG and non PG matter? Had this been a non PG setting Rock would have probably added an expletive before his genitilia joke at best. No amount of expletives can help you counter an intelligent promo. And remember Cena too can handle himself in a Non-PG environment.



It was hardly an ideal world scenario that I was talking about. HHH would never be booked to lose to Punk in a promo war. That was supposed to be a promo war between two badasses and both guys were supposed to look equally good coming out of it but the scripting was shoddy and it even looked as if HHH and Punk had not consulted each other before the promos. Each and every line that HHH said could have been very eassily replied to.




While all the superstars you mentioned are great superstars, the one thing that Rock benefitted from was that all these guys pretty much came up at the same time along with Rock. Their rise to stardom was almost parallel to that of The Rock. Hence, as Rock was a superstar on an equal footing with these guys, he was often booked to win his promo wars.

Punk has come up in an era where he has been a comparable nobody compared to some of the bigger names. Punk has had to fight his way up the card more than Rocky. Bigger names generally protect their reputation to stay on top for a long time. They cannot let some greenhorn destroy them. That hinders Punk's rise and hence he has been booked a bit weakly in his promos from time to time. All things given I think that the difference between Rock and Punk is as great as it seems from rose tinted glasses.

"that is like someone complaining that Rock gets all the best lines written for him every time."

Accoring to Orton?! The same guy who said cena is ten times better than rock in the ring?! lol come on..


"You need a ton of conviction in your voice to carry off a shoot promo and get the crowd to believe what they have never even heard of."

All you need is to go out of character in order to make it work. Everyone knows xpac sucked on the mic, but because it was a shoot people look at the promo he did in his return(1998) as a 5-star. Same thing with paul heyman and vince segment before servivor series 2001, I can't help but notice how the crowd start cheering when paul while paul was laying down the truth. The whole edge-hardy fued(Became the main focus), triple h shoot interview in 1999(The night after, "the game" signs are everywhere). Austin's shoot promos in ECW... you see, there is no secret, the fans love to see superstars break kayfabe.


"The best thing that Rock would do in such a situation is respond with a genitilia joke which will get the crowd rolling but it will be a poor counter regardless."







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and countless of rock-hhh segments prove that rock can respond to those kind of shoots.




"And that more money line, also can be responded to in a number of ways. You know what would also draw a ton of money? Getting Shaqiulle O'Niell to wrestle Big Show. Getting some popular celebrities involved. Really this line is much worse than you actually think."

Then why not make it shaq vs cena at WM 28?! Come on you're smarter than that.




"If Rock would have responded with something like me and Cena will create a moment that you will never be able to replicate, then that would have actually been more difficult to reply to."

That means, he'll go completly out of character, and not only that, it will also hurt thier wm build-up, since the whole thing is about rock HATES cena.


"Cena even mauled him in his own game with his great rap. And how does PG and non PG matter? Had this been a non PG setting Rock would have probably added an expletive before his genitilia joke at best. No amount of expletives can help you counter an intelligent promo. And remember Cena too can handle himself in a Non-PG environment. "

It does matter. In 1999 rock didn't care about "tear him down, and build him back up" rule. He used to go out, and make his opponents look like complete idiots. He used to destroy them verbally. Billy gun is a great example. Rock literally killed his push after delivering the "billy talks to god" promo. He was supposed to be a main eventer, but not after that. Undertaker, change his entire character to adapt in the attiude enviroment, and his last fued with rock and sock(before the transformation) was a big reason for that. Rock made him look like an ass, week in and week out.


"It was hardly an ideal world scenario that I was talking about. HHH would never be booked to lose to Punk in a promo war. That was supposed to be a promo war between two badasses and both guys were supposed to look equally good coming out of it but the scripting was shoddy and it even looked as if HHH and Punk had not consulted each other before the promos. Each and every line that HHH said could have been very eassily replied to."

You're kidding me, right? Punk was tearing the shit out of hunter the whole fued, and hunter never had the chance to respond up untill thier last promo before the match, and guess what happened, HHH, verbally, put him in a figure-4-leg lock.



"While all the superstars you mentioned are great superstars, the one thing that Rock benefitted from was that all these guys pretty much came up at the same time along with Rock. Their rise to stardom was almost parallel to that of The Rock. Hence, as Rock was a superstar on an equal footing with these guys, he was often booked to win his promo wars."

That maybe the case with hhh, jericho, and foley, but it's not with austin. As great as austin was, he couldn't hang with rock on the mic. You disagree? watch their build up to WM 15 and WM 19.






I've always said, rock as a heel is unbeatable on the mic.

 

[Davi323]

I've always said, rock as a heel is unbeatable on the mic.

So, your entire argument is based on the fact that he likes to verbally abuse small children then?

And, if you seriously think that the Rock is unbeatable on the mic, the 60s, 70s and 80s called, they suggest you look into them a little bit before you make such a claim.

The Rock's entire schtick is to act like a juvenile punk and insult. There is nothing to a Rock promo of substance. Finally the Rock has come back, jabroni, random object being stuck inside someone's candy ass. There. I just described pretty much every Rock promo ever.

Nick Bockwinkel, Jake Roberts, Ric Flair, Ted DiBiase (sr), Roddy Piper, and a whole lot of other guys could completely pwn Rock on a microphone. They had something to their promos that the Rock has never had. Substance.

 

[RJJ]

So, your entire argument is based on the fact that he likes to verbally abuse small children then?

And, if you seriously think that the Rock is unbeatable on the mic, the 60s, 70s and 80s called, they suggest you look into them a little bit before you make such a claim.

The Rock's entire schtick is to act like a juvenile punk and insult. There is nothing to a Rock promo of substance. Finally the Rock has come back, jabroni, random object being stuck inside someone's candy ass. There. I just described pretty much every Rock promo ever.

Nick Bockwinkel, Jake Roberts, Ric Flair, Ted DiBiase (sr), Roddy Piper, and a whole lot of other guys could completely pwn Rock on a microphone. They had something to their promos that the Rock has never had. Substance.

No it's not about rock abusing a kid, it's about rock telling it like it is, cena won't reach rock's level because he's not "that talented", and only a 2-5 yrs old would think otherwise. Lack of substance?!


With all due respect to all of those legends, only piper can hang with rock in a mic battle.

 

[Davi323]

No it's not about rock abusing a kid, it's about rock telling it like it is, cena won't reach rock's level because he's not "that talented", and only a 2-5 yrs old would think otherwise. Lack of substance?!


With all due respect to all of those legends, only piper can hang with rock in a mic battle.

And only a person with the IQ of a 2-5 year old would think that Rock's promos have any substance to them at all, so back at ya.

The Rock is a one trick pony. He only knows how to do ONE thing on a microphone, which is use constantly repeated cliched catchphrases to insult people. All he does is keep adding to the number of catchphrases, and somehow that means he is capable of thinking quick on his feet? That makes his promos have real substance to them? Bullshit. Are you familiar with the term "spot monkey"? It's a term that describes certain wrestlers who can only do a match where they have to go from spot to spot in quick succession to get the crowd going, rather than actually do a legit honest to goodness cohesive WRESTLING match. These are your Jeff Hardys, John Morrisons, and pretty much any cruiserweight wrestler in WCW who wasn't named Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho or Eddie Guerrero.

With that in mind, The Rock is just a "promo monkey". He does the exact same thing in promos that spot monkeys do in the ring. His promos are just one rapid chain of catchphrases strung together with no rhyme or reason, no cohesion.

The Rock just is not good at thinking on his feet. He isn't quick witted at all. If it's something he can't reply with one of his catchphrases, he just looks like a big dumb buffoon standing there going DERP!!!!

There are comedians that can do stand up comic routines that they have rehearsed...When heckled, their only response is to deliver a canned insult to the heckler that they have used in every town, and continue on with their rehearsed routine that they have been delivering for years...This is the Rock.

and then there are comedians that can do improv, ad-lib their way through it and make it funny, divert from their stand up routine and just parry with hecklers as an unplanned part of the show, and never skip a beat. Not only can they get their shots in at the heckler, but can toss their rehearsed bit and keep the audience entertained with material that they are coming up with right there and then. This is CM Punk, Chris Jericho, and a bunch of other guys whose verbal agility far exceeds that of Dwayne Johnson's.

 

[RJJ]

And only a person with the IQ of a 2-5 year old would think that Rock's promos have any substance to them at all, so back at ya.

The Rock is a one trick pony. He only knows how to do ONE thing on a microphone, which is use constantly repeated cliched catchphrases to insult people. All he does is keep adding to the number of catchphrases, and somehow that means he is capable of thinking quick on his feet? That makes his promos have real substance to them? Bullshit. Are you familiar with the term "spot monkey"? It's a term that describes certain wrestlers who can only do a match where they have to go from spot to spot in quick succession to get the crowd going, rather than actually do a legit honest to goodness cohesive WRESTLING match. These are your Jeff Hardys, John Morrisons, and pretty much any cruiserweight wrestler in WCW who wasn't named Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho or Eddie Guerrero.

With that in mind, The Rock is just a "promo monkey". He does the exact same thing in promos that spot monkeys do in the ring. His promos are just one rapid chain of catchphrases strung together with no rhyme or reason, no cohesion.

The Rock just is not good at thinking on his feet. He isn't quick witted at all. If it's something he can't reply with one of his catchphrases, he just looks like a big dumb buffoon standing there going DERP!!!!

There are comedians that can do stand up comic routines that they have rehearsed...When heckled, their only response is to deliver a canned insult to the heckler that they have used in every town, and continue on with their rehearsed routine that they have been delivering for years...This is the Rock.

and then there are comedians that can do improv, ad-lib their way through it and make it funny, divert from their stand up routine and just parry with hecklers as an unplanned part of the show, and never skip a beat. Not only can they get their shots in at the heckler, but can toss their rehearsed bit and keep the audience entertained with material that they are coming up with right there and then. This is CM Punk, Chris Jericho, and a bunch of other guys whose verbal agility far exceeds that of Dwayne Johnson's.

LOL you really believe that shit?! Alright, the reason why rock use those catchphrases is because PEOPLE WANTS TO HEAR THEM, they paid money to see rock do his thing, it's not like "Rock can't cut a good promo without using those phrases". If you don't believe that then you need to do your homework and watch some of the old rocky maivia promos(As a member of the nation), or the promos he did as a heel in 2003, he barely use the phrases during those times. Hell you can also watch his 2004 promos(before he left).

Look, Don't hate on rock just because he made hogan look like a little bitch. Oh, and by the way, according to chris jericho, Rock is the greatest promo man in history.

 

[Davi323]

promo monkey.

 

[Rokitka]

This argument should really only be decided by deliver rather than content, seeing as how neither guys are responsible for what they're talking about.

 

[RJJ]

promo monkey.

It seems to me that the "Pipe bomb" 's got stale already..

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/247049-report-cm-punk-in-danger-of-losing-title-due-to-poor-ratings

 

[Davi323]

I heard that promo monkeys have a thing for shoving things up their asses.