Pick Your Poison: Jim Ross, Paul Heyman, or Jim Cornette?

Who Runs TNA in Imagination Land?

  • Jim Ross

  • Paul Heyman

  • Jim Cornette

  • Neither, I lahv Ho KOGAN!


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This is a purely hypothetical situation I'm coming up with here. Lets say Hogan's no longer in TNA. He's fed up with wrestling and simply wants to fade into the sunset. It's a novel concept, but let's suspend disbelief and picture this taking place.

Now picture that Jim Ross recently posted a blog saying he would listen to the notion of being over day-to-day operations of TNA if offered the job. Paul Heyman says the same thing, citing a new need for challenges and a fresh face to help make TNA competitive. Then, Jim Cornette decides he wants to throw his hat into the ring, knowing he could be over the day-to-day operations with no one impeding his progress.

So who do you choose to run TNA's operations? Jim Ross, Paul Heyman, or Jim Cornette? And why would they be good for the post? Why would they be bad for the job?
 
Ross has had booking power in one place: the NWA in 1989. For those of you that are familiar with this time, here is Ross' main contribution to that period: Starrcade 1989. If you aren't familiar with that show, take my word for it when I say it was one of the worst ideas ever in wrestling and a horrible way to end the best year the company ever had. More on JR later.

Heyman: No. He's run one company and managed to screw the whole thing up. That's his entire track record running a "major" company and he was awful at it. If there has ever been a more overrated man in wrestling history, I can't think of who it is. The guy was able to book good TV when he had a ton of talent. he's basically Vince Russo with a lower flare for the dramatic. No.

Cornette:.......now this is an interesting case. My first instinct says that Cornette's time has passed, but if you give him the talent that TNA has and full control, things could get very interesting in a hurry. Cornette knows how to book week to week TV, which is something modern wrestling lacks badly in outside of NXT. The old school style could do very well today, but with Cornette's history of blowing up out of nowhere, I'd have to say no.

This basically leaves JR, who has shown a great eye for talent and did well as VP of talent relations in WWE. I'll go with JR but I'd have to think very hard about saying no to Cornette.
 
When I look at Jim Ross, Jim Cornette and Paul Heyman; the one that generally sticks out at me as the one who is generally able to see the big picture is Jim Ross.

That's not to say that he would somehow be able to wave a magic wand and take TNA to the Promise Land. I know that Jim Ross excels at talent relations and has a great eye for talent, but he's never really been in this sort of position in which he runs the day to day operations of a pro wrestling company. So while my instincts tell me he'd do a good job, it's hard to be sure. After all, Starrcade 1989 was something of a train wreck and Jim Ross was a major creative mind behind it. It had some innovative aspects but it was something of a clusterfuck. The Iron Man singles & tag team tournaments sounded very interesting on paper but the execution of the whole thing was something of a mess.

At the same time, however, Jim Cornette & Paul Heyman have history working against them. Both men have shown their lack of business acumen in running a pro wrestling company in the past. Cornette has sometimes been accused of being too much of an old school guy, often letting his love of how things were done back in the days in which he was growing up get in the way of what makes money. Smokey Mountain Wrestling definitely had an old school feel about it and while it did have talented wrestlers on the roster, it came across, at least to me, as something of a vanity project in some ways. It seemed that Cornette cared more about his own personal vision as to what he wanted it to be rather than having it be a profitable business. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that an old school mentality is bad at all. Personally, I think more of an old school mentality could only help things in wrestling. But, I think it's important to know where to draw the line, to accept what works, what doesn't and to be willing to bend if that's what it takes. If Cornette could do that, then I think it could lead to something interesting.

In the case of Paul Heyman, everyone in wrestling today has heard of ECW. It was innovative and it was a legit alternative to WCW and WWE during the 90s. At the same time though, ECW itself was its own worst enemy. The matches were frequently packed with extreme, over the top violence packed with highly dangerous spots and blood. Wrestlers would frequently use as many four letter words in their promos as they could possibly fit in. ECW had a very sleazy kind of atmosphere that was in vogue during the late 90s, which was the era of Crash TV. That's all well and good until ECW managed to land a national TV deal with TNN, which would later become Spike. The network had ECW tone down the violence and profanity to such a degree that it simply wasn't the same company, at least not that you could see on television. To be fair, however, ECW was definitely extreme, too much so much of its general content to be aired on television in the minds of many people. There's also the fact that Heyman, while highly creative, simply was not a businessman. Or, I should say, he simply wasn't a very good one.

A while back, when Heyman was talking with Dixie Carter, the demands that Heyman made did seem pretty unreasonable. Heyman wanted unquestionable, total control of the creative direction of TNA and millions upon millions of dollars. I can't remember exactly how much, but I think it was somewhere in the neighborhood of $20 million. Those terms made me think that either Heyman wasn't really majorly interested, because they're just unrealistic, though he would have accepted, in my opinion, had Dixie agreed. They also made me think that Heyman may have been attempting to take advantage of Dixie as she's often been referred to as the "money mark" by some. Heyman does give me the vibe of something akin to an oily, sneaky used car salesman. After all, Heyman would never make these kinds of demands of WWE. Vince McMahon would laugh so hard in Heyman's face that he'd probably give himself a heart attack. Also, I think Heyman's abilities, as the IWC tends to do in many instances, gets jacked to a ridiculous level. As I said, ECW was innovative but the way people talk, you'd think that the man was able to shit bricks of solid gold. There's no sort of guarantee that Paul Heyman would be able to get the job done in TNA based simply on what he was able to do over a decade & a half ago. There's no guarantee that Heyman could have remade TNA into another ECW. Even if he could, I somehow doubt that the Carters would approve of such a raunchy product. Bob Carter strikes me as something of an old school, Tennessee conservative.

Between the three, I think that Jim Ross comes off as the most level headed. I'm not saying he'd be fantastic but Jim Ross is someone that inspires confidence.
 
JR is someone who would thrive behind the scenes. Cornette is still trying to relive the old ways of wrestling. I'm afraid he would eventually make the product stale.

I chose Heyman for 2 reasons. He has a great mind for being able to cater to a wrestler's attributes, while hiding their shortcomings.

Not only that, he would be the Mr. McMahon IN the ring. We all know how creative he is, but he's adding a lot more to both Lesnar's character and when he was with Punk. JR's on-camera roles have been so so.

So I go with Heyman because he can do everything and do it well.
 
I have to go with Paul Heyman.

Right off the bat, I've gotta knock Cornette out of the running. All we'll get with him is another Smokey Mountain Wrestling. It's okay to reuse the past, but Jim is stuck in it.

Jim Ross, as stated above, has an impeccable eye for talent, maybe even second to no one. The downfall for Ross is that I don't think he would be as strong, creatively as Paul Heyman would be.

While Jim Ross is second to none in finding diamonds in the dirt, Paul Heyman has the ability to make dirt look like gold. If you look back at the old ECW, it's main event scene in it's twilight years was filled with some pretty garbage talent who could not succeed anywhere else. Paul Heyman actually made guys like Mike Awesome, Rhyno, Justin Credible, Sandman, and Balls Mahoney into marketable and likable stars... that's EXACTLY what TNA needs. On top of that Paul Heyman is a top notch on air talent who could get anything or anyone over.... just keep him away from the money.
 
None of the above, for the simple reason that they are all either living on over-inflated past glories, or don't have the experience in the first place.

Personally, I'd look beyond guys like this to find someone from a company like Marvel or Disney to be the head, with someone like a Lance Storm or Ricky Steamboat to handle booking.
 
In response to Klunderblunder, I off the bat went off the premise that none of these guys would be handling the money, just the creative. So coming from that angle, I think the obvious choice would be Paul Heyman. I think Cornette would work, but like others think it would get stale.

I've never really seen or heard anything booking wise from Jim Ross. I know he's a great talent scout but that's about it. Honestly I'd probably pick him out of all 3 guys I would probably hire Jim Ross based off of his track record as a good guy and somebody with a "great mind" for the business. But creatively I think you have to go with Paul Heyman.

Klunder said, he was able to book good tv when he had a ton of talent as if that's not a huge accomplishment in the wrestling world. Jim Cornette had pretty much all the same talent in SMW and people don't talk about it 20 years later. Hell look at TNA. They have had a pretty damn good roster for about 6 or 7 years now and haven't been able to book a good show. When WcW went out of business it had the greatest talent in the world and couldn't book TV. Look at WWE for the last 6 years, they have top talent and don't write good TV(although I haven't actually watched wrestling in about a year.) Maybe you could just attribute it to the extreme style but I don't. I think that that won him the race to #3, but ECW also had a lot of great innovative ideas that both WCW and WWF stole, notwithstanding the whole Hardcore era.

But when we really get down to it, you have to wonder why we can't just get some new blood in as head booker that actually has history in the business? Why does WWE have to keep hiring soap opera writers, and movie writers, and sitcom writers, and basically anybody that might win some hearts in Hollywood? I know HHH is taking some power from Vince, but why do they still hire these soap opera writers and sitcom writers? I heard on a podcast that they wanted to hire a Spanish soap opera writer to help write for Del Rio. WTF, why don't you try to hire a Spanish Booker?

And TNA, as they do with basically everything, just keeps recycling the same old writers. Aren't their any younger guys with good Wrestling history that want the job?
 
If the position doesn't include control of finance then I would have to say Heyman by a mile. The guy is brilliant with accentuating positives and creating compelling storylines. Best creative mind in the business in the last 20 years without a doubt. Can get anyone over.

That said IMO there is no terrible answer here.
 
Jim Ross is the only person even worth considering on this list.

Jim Cornette is just too old school. He somehow managed to make ROH worse during his tenure there. He actually considers Dana White a wrestling promoter, and thinks wrestling can succeed if it was just like UFC but scripted.

Paul Heyman couldn't book a mainstream wrestling show to save his ass. He has his following, because he identified a small block of wrestling fans, knew what they wanted, and gave it to them. The people that praise Heyman only do so because he thinks about wrestling the same way they do. They could care less how TNA would do on a national stage with him booking, so long as they get the product they're dreaming about. And with him in charge, that's sure to happen because that's the only audience he knows how to get.

So JR wins by default. I have no clue what would happen with him in charge, because he's been out of power for so long. But he's highly regarded for his previous role overseeing WWE's developmental program, which is critical for TNA going forward. Plus he'd be a great addition as a commentator, so that's 2 huge pluses.
 
Like Monty Brewster campaigned for...NONE OF THE ABOVE!!! It's amazing the orgy fest that Heyman gets on here. Then I stop, and think. He is exactly what the IWC is. Only fatter, and a lot more bald. If his "plan" for TNA actually came about, Spike TV would be having an open time slot between 8-10pm on Thursdays.
 
I would choose Jim Ross for numerous reasons, but the one reason is his experience as EVP of Talent Relations during the most chaotic era in wrestling history. Starrcade '89 was a learning curve for him as a booker and I believe he realized that he may not have a knack for creative, which means he'd designate someone else to help with creative, while he'd take the reigns of everything else and oversee everything.

Jim Cornette would be fine and is willing to adjust moderately when need be, but he's a wild card that could simply leave TNA on a dime and never come back if something didn't seem right. But he knew how to make money and he kept the old school tendencies in tact in an era that was cartoonish with both the WCW and WWE. Cornette also has experience in the WWE and could be an asset on how their day to day operations work.

Paul Heyman would be wonderful creatively, but talent wise he'd be a problem because he'd bring in some questionable faces that have had spotty pasts just because he can make a dime off of them. If Heyman had a budget, he could do real well with it. If he knew he didn't have to fight for every dime, maybe he'd be less worried about hustling money and more about building an empire. Thing is, Heyman can't be trusted with money and something tells me he'd find a way to screw up a good thing.

So for those reasons, Jim Ross seems to be the best bet.
 
I'm not gonna pretend I know the entire track records of these three men. But based on what I do know and the previous responses, I'm going with none of the above as well. While I would lean towards JR, I don't know if he should assume control of the ship. With Paul, he can provide entertaining TV, but that's it. Original ECW probably could've lasted more years or currently if you had someone at the helm with more business savvy. And I like Cornette, but his main problem is that he's not a forward thinker. Old school ways are fine, but you can't implement every facet to today's brand. It's cool in ROH to a degree, but they're struggling as well. I say TNA is alright without either choices.
 
From a personal standpoint I have always wanted to see what would happen if JR took control of a promotion. He seems the most level headed of the three and obviously he is a true student of the game. Hell, he may fall flat on his face, but I would sure like to see him try. He has a great eye for talent, and I just think he would just best know how to use them. Like I said it is mostly because the choice of JR intrigues me the most more than if I know how well he would actually do, but he is definitely my choice.
 
IMO none of them could do any worse then the current administration, both Cornette and Heyman are running or have run indy promotions that have a semi-global cult following which sais something considering how little money they have and put on some great PPV's and a periodic TV show.

BUT!!!

Jim Cornette is useless as a leader, proven that with ROH which is going backwards and losing all there talent and they lost there TV deal b4 it even took off. The guy is just a self promoting bastard who just loves swearing and bagging his former employers and any ideas he wasn't involved in. He was good as a manager and a spokeperson for those stars.

JR is really just an asskisser at heart, he takes crap and doesn't fight back so he would be no good as an owner, as a talent relations or booker yeah sure but you said who "runs" TNA. JR is best at where he was at, being a commentator and a talent scout put him there, he could all by himself do a far better job on the commentry booth then anyone that has ever done it for TNA.

that leaves Paul Heyman who is the best choice but he was pigheaded which was a big part of ECW's downfall, had he allowed some leighway and accepted some of the conditions set by the network they cut a deal with ECW may have survived longer, now that wouldn't be an issue with TNA since they are alot less "family" friendly anyway so he could be more racey and get away with it.

Heyman would be the logical choice but only if he had the full support of any financial backing and the network. Without either of those he's got no chance.

All a moot point tho, it will never happen. Heyman wont go there, Cornette said numerous times he despises Dixie and Co and JR is making money doing nothing where he is plus he's pretty much at retirement age.
 
what does Hawk Hogan really do? does he have control, or is he just the on air GM?

I don't really know enough about these 3, but I find myself feeling Heyman is overrated. people seem to have mentioned him through the years as if he would come in and BOOM TNA would take off.

seems reading through the years a lot of people are just tired of Hogan. even if they aren't looking at specifically what he has done, it's just easy to not want him around. not having Hogan and replacing him with anyone might be a better overall move for TNA and increase viewership just from those who would watch just because Hogan wasn't there anymore.

whoever was to come in, I don't really think much would change in viewership to make enough of a difference just based on whatever storylines there would be. it's going to take more than creative to make TNA much improved. they could have great storylines, but if more people aren't watching it's not going to matter. what TNA needs is better marketing, better selling these wrestlers they have.

from what I remember about what Heyman wanted to do, didn't he want to mix wrestling and MMA style fighting? I'm not really down with that.
I would want whoever new comes in to remember this is a TV show, where promos and story lines IMO are more important than the actual in ring wrestling.
 
Quick note, as far as I know, while Hogan has influence within TNA, I don't think he has any actual booking authority.

JR…is not really a booker. He has experience in Talent Relations, but I gather Vince wasn't terribly pleased with his run there. That could be a difference in vision for what makes a good wrestler, but I'm not sure I'm giving JR the benefit of the doubt there.

Heyman discovered one thing that worked in ECW, and is an excellent on-air character, but I'm not sure I trust him to create what TNA wants, which is a product that could eventually compete with WWE. Plus the guy is just plain sleazy.

Cornette, I think other people have said better than me – he's a little too old school.

Honestly, the current booking run by TNA hasn't been as bad as you might think, Aces & Eights could have even worked if different people had been behind the masks.
 
I know little of Jim Ross' booking ability or style. I know he had booking power at one point or another in the NWA and something went wrong that landed him in a bit of bother, could be incorrect on that but I think Mick Foley has a chapter in his first autobiography about how JR stepped down from a booking committee due to his run-ins with Eric Bischoff, so if Bischoff remained in TNA in this hypothetical situation take that into context. JR would still have an eye for talent though which is something TNA kind of needs, too many bland, useless guys, especially in development, JR would have the knowledge on how to fix that.

Jim Cornette is done as a booker. Unless you want AJ Styles coming to the ring thinking hes George St. Pierre or Christopher Daniels cutting Chael Sonnen like speeches forget about it. I love Jim Cornette's character, he and Kevin Steen had great chemistry in the ring in Ring of Honor, but behind-the-scenes he was supposed to have been an absolute nightmare. He doesn't know how to incorporate social media, he doesn't know how to draw in a younger fanbase and he booked ROH into Smokey Mountain of Honor. Jim Cornette has been fired from the three main American wrestling promotions in existence, there is a reason for that.

And Paul Heyman. We're talking about a booker here and not someone who runs finances. KB pointed out how he failed with ECW but with having watched the latest ECW documentary only yesterday while he was deceptive and poor with money, as a booker he is a very creative guy. As long as TNA made sure someone was watching the finances Paul Heyman to me would be able to make the best run with it. I recall him revealing his plan for TNA had Dixie Carter given him full control of the show a couple years ago being firing everyone over the age of forty, trying to bring in Danielson who was a free agent at the time after the tie incident, building him up as a submission machine, making someone else on the roster (think he said Joe) undefeated and eventually they'd cross paths.

While Paul can't balance his cheque book worth a shit if they gave him solely the booking of the company he'd be my favorite for the position. He knows how to build feuds, he knows how to build characters and he knows how sell matches. You need any further proof of that when Taz and Sabu eventually met for the first time at Barely Legal there was a lot of buzz surrounding the match, Heyman was also successful as the head writer of Smackdown when it was at its peak.
 
My gut instinct and my better judgement tell me that Jim Cornette is the best of the three men.

Jim is compulsively honest and holds everyone accountable for their bullshit. He can tear apart anyone, and you realize that he's not just talking shit when he does so.

He's had to make something from nothing when he was working with OVW, only to have Vince knock it all back to nothing in a "creative" effort.

JR has my respect, but like JC, I don't forgive easy. JR has said some pretty nasty things about other people I respect and has shown that of the three he can be the least professional when on tv. That's all I'm going to say.

I respect Paul, though I respect him the least of the three. He made pro-wrestling try harder to entertain, but he did so by encouraging his performers to destroy themselves through their own spots and by having fans just bring whatever to the shows. Eventually the show degraded into Axl vs Ian Rotten bookings. Paul has very informed opinions of the business, but it would have all turned to shit if he had Vince's level of stock in the business.

I love JR and Paul, but I'd take a bullet for Jim Cornette.



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Out of those 3 definitely Heyman. Cornette was the head of booking in ROH and he turned it into SMW and the fans hated it! JR I didn't pick because I'd rather him be an announcer than running creative.

I didn't choose Heyman because I loved ecw. Paul thinks about the future and looks to give young guys an opportunity as opposed to relying on guys from the past. In ecw when guys left, Paul would make new stars to replace them. Because Heyman thinks of the future I doubt he would make TNA an ecw redux. I love when he said in an interview that anyone over 40 he would cut out of the roster if he was in charge.
 
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And Paul Heyman. We're talking about a booker here and not someone who runs finances. KB pointed out how he failed with ECW but with having watched the latest ECW documentary only yesterday while he was deceptive and poor with money, as a booker he is a very creative guy. As long as TNA made sure someone was watching the finances Paul Heyman to me would be able to make the best run with it. I recall him revealing his plan for TNA had Dixie Carter given him full control of the show a couple years ago being firing everyone over the age of forty, trying to bring in Danielson who was a free agent at the time after the tie incident, building him up as a submission machine, making someone else on the roster (think he said Joe) undefeated and eventually they'd cross paths.

You should also keep in mind he had Justin Credible for a World Champion for 8 months, never thought about making Rob Van Dam World Champion until it was too late, allowed Shane Douglas to keep the World title while injured and stalling for a long time with Taz as a result, the stuff can just pile on. And that's just the well known stuff. There's probably sillier moves done in the undercard too. Mass Transit sticks out. Paul works great when he has great talent. Because he does the rather logical "just have them wrestle" move. But outside of that, I have not seen anything that would make me rave about him.

Jim Ross on the other hand has proven to have a very very (yes, twice) good eye for talent. Booking skills remain a mystery, but he can see who's good and who may not.

And of course it's easier to work with a chimpanzee than with Jim Cornette. But Ross is the untested and yet to fail one. If I had to make a choice, I'd go with him.
 
To be honest I'd be interested in Raven being allowed to book the whole show his way. His mind for the business has been compared to that of Jake Roberts and his MENSA level IQ leads me to believe he is smart enough to stay within the booking realm and keep himself off TV unless the situation rightly called for it.

Also if you watch any of the ECW docs the performers admit that Raven had a part in most of the original gimmicks and ideas. My feeling is that if he could be given a chance to write the show his way we'd have a very interesting, if different, wrestling product which could be extremely enjoyable. I once heard Shane Douglas call Raven a heel directly from the 1960's. In my humble opinion the business could use someone who would focus on selling the product as the product itself rather than anything else.
 
Something people have to consider with JR is that at this point, he's pretty old. He quit the talent relation job of the WWE cause he was tired. And he could have come in TNA and do a lot of stuff but he chose to stay in his comfort zone in the WWE and cruise on the money. His passion for being involved and doing things in wrestling is gone.

Cornette I like and he has a great mind for business but some of it have been overrated over time. I think wrestling has passed him but in a way, I would not mind if he would put up a product that is a little bit old school.

Heyman is ideal cause he always wants to shake things up and he said before he would want to focus on homegrown talent and make them stars and that's what TNA should have done in a long time.

Can you imagine these three together, though? It could be amazing.
 
Heyman may not be considered a success in running ECW as a "major" promotion. But i'll be damned if every single fan of wrestling I knew at the time was watching it. There is absolutely on thing you cannot take away from Heyman, he has an eye for talent and how they can be used....and he DID push other wrestling companies to follow his lead into the land of Hardcore. plain and simple wcw and especially wwf knew they had to try and satisfy the niche of wrestling heyman made popular during that time.
 
A while back, when Heyman was talking with Dixie Carter, the demands that Heyman made did seem pretty unreasonable. Heyman wanted unquestionable, total control of the creative direction of TNA and millions upon millions of dollars. I can't remember exactly how much, but I think it was somewhere in the neighborhood of $20 million. Those terms made me think that either Heyman wasn't really majorly interested, because they're just unrealistic, though he would have accepted, in my opinion, had Dixie agreed. They also made me think that Heyman may have been attempting to take advantage of Dixie as she's often been referred to as the "money mark" by some. Heyman does give me the vibe of something akin to an oily, sneaky used car salesman. After all, Heyman would never make these kinds of demands of WWE. Vince McMahon would laugh so hard in Heyman's face that he'd probably give himself a heart attack. Also, I think Heyman's abilities, as the IWC tends to do in many instances, gets jacked to a ridiculous level. As I said, ECW was innovative but the way people talk, you'd think that the man was able to shit bricks of solid gold. There's no sort of guarantee that Paul Heyman would be able to get the job done in TNA based simply on what he was able to do over a decade & a half ago. There's no guarantee that Heyman could have remade TNA into another ECW. Even if he could, I somehow doubt that the Carters would approve of such a raunchy product. Bob Carter strikes me as something of an old school, Tennessee conservative.

I heard Heyman discuss his terms for taking on TNA and they seemed pretty logical to me. The way he explained it made sense. He needed complete creative control and why wouldn't he? It only makes sense because booking by committee never turns out well. When there isn't a singular vision, things go wrong. Just look at history. Secondly, he didn't ask for millions in cash, he said he wanted a percentage of the company. Then he could honestly take on such a daunting task with the enthusiasm it would take to climb that hill. It would probably be performance based, which only seems logical. He also said that if he were to do it all over again, he would do things totally different than ECW. I think he knows the same approach wouldn't fly these days.
 
Voted Hogan. Not sure about the whole set up, who is writing and who is doing what, but going by recent show standards, Hogan, Bischoff, Brother Love, Lagana and whoever else are doing a great job.
 

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