Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
Uh. Neither of those things are true. Like, at all.
Payback LD
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Uh. Neither of those things are true. Like, at all.
I'm with you on this, and not just because you're a sexy lady.
Anyway, bedtime. Maybe I'll make some time to touch myself over ShieldGirl.
Stormtrooper
Championship Contender
Yeah they are. He's an average power guy at best who is decent at best on the mic. His only good promo was a taped vignette right after his heel turn. Taped. Not live, but taped, where it can be done time and time again til it's good.
He's a 2013 Chris Masters (pre-positive steroid test), except people think he's actually a legit main eventer. It's humorous. He's in the perfect role now. Monster Jobber to the Stars.
FlexAmerican Dynamite
WZCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
Having Kofi Kingston return to feud with Ryback leading to his elevation to a WHC feud against whoever is holding it would be perfect, just saying.
Well I thought that was an awesome PPV. Solid from top to bottom in my opinion. Face/heel turns, title changes, surprise returns, vignettes, and solid matches throughout the evening which all meant something. Hell, even the divas match was pretty good, and that's saying something.
Poop Master Flex
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Both are false and even if it was true Ryback is a monster who has a good look and charisma, he doesn't need good mic skills or being great in the ring.
The Dragon Saga
Whale in a Teardrop
The idea of Kofi Kingston even challenging for the World Heavyweight title is humorous.
I'm not saying creative didn't drop the ball, because they did, but even with them booking him correctly it would just delay the inevitable. He needed to stay as a powerhouse who said virtually nothing and just dominated. However, that kind of booking can't last forever. To be a top guy he was eventually going to have to do more and now that he has been forced to do more his weaknesses are showing. The only example of a guy consistently being able to say very little, dominate in the ring, and be a top guy is Goldberg. However, Goldberg was the exception not the rule. Ryback is ok in the ring as a power guy but he's nothing special. When it comes to his mic work he is just absolutely awful.
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WZCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
You say that as if the title is even that important after what happened tonight.
Poop Master Flex
Mid-Card Championship Winner
That's not entirely accurate lots of guys got mad over just going in there, destroying people and leaving, hell I just described 8 out of 10 monster heels that were main eventers. The truth is someone like Ryback needs to be consistently booked as a monster, it doesn't mean he has to win but he has to make it up if he does. Guys like Ryback liveable and die off of booking. If they're booked consistently strong they stay consistently strong, if they are booked poorly they're fucked. Ryback could have been big for a long time with simple, effective booking just based on his look, power and charisma. They are a rare breed but with some wrestlers that's all it takes.
But once again outside of Goldberg how many of these guys that are booked well can stay at the top consistently? If you have to rely solely on booking to be successful then you don't deserve to be on top. Booking plays a huge role but you have to bring something to the table yourself. No one has cared about Ryback for a while now and not all of that is on the booking. It's not like the guys career is over though. Mark Henry has gone from dominating heel to jobber and back again more times then I can count and these last couple years have been the best of his career. With Ryback's skill set he was destined to have an up and down career.
theBusiness
Pre-Show Stalwart
Damn, now I'm disappointed I didn't order this ppv and watch it live.
Poop Master Flex
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Ryback has plenty to bring to the table and what he brings is a lot of things other wrestlers can't, he has the look and charisma to be a big superstar, and also gets the job done in ring and on the mic, its nothing off the charts but with his marketability he has something others will never have. With good looks, charisma and passable in ring skills that's really all he needs. Ryback ain't as skilled as Daniel Bryan but he doesn't have to be, Daniel Bryan has to be that good so people will give a shit, when someone looks like Ryback it makes up for a lot of things Bryan can do.
You don't have to bexan amazing booker, just protect the guy and don't put yourself in a situation you shouldn't have been in the first place, the main event of HIAC. They put him in a match he had to win but already planned for Rock and Cena so what happens is Rybacks credibility was hurt. That's not expecting amazing booking, hell half the people on these forums could have told ya that.
Damn Ziggler and Del Rio's double turn was something right? I liked the storytelling, like how Ziggler aggravated Del Rio's knee when he cashed in, Del Rio was going to do the same to Dolphs head after his concussion. I remember wondering whether or not in this day and age the WWE could pull off a convincing double turn.
He has a good look and is passable in the ring but definitely not on the mic. He in no way, shape, or form can get the job done on the mic. As far as charisma goes that part of him is overrated as well. If you have great charisma you find a way to make people care regardless of booking and as of right now, no one cares about Ryback.
