Paul Heyman as Brock Lesnar's Mouthpiece- Yay or Nay?

[xavyer]

Anything to have Paul Heyman back!!!! It's great to see him on WWE tv again, i sure hope he's back for good, wrestling is not the same without the guy, he's great as a manager, comentator, general manager, the man is so talented and has a great vision for the bussiness, how ever you put him, he's very good at creating characters, on the mic, on the creative side, i hope the WWE realize that this guy is the real deal, a lot of good can come out if the WWE decides to keep Heyman......

 

[bk555]

I say yes and here's why. We all know Lesnar has improved on the mic since his first stint in WWE. But go back and watch that contract signing segment with Johnny Ace. It was HORRIBLE, AWKWARD, POORLY EXECUTED, AND ALL AROUND AWFUL.

Now go back in time for a second and imagine Lesnar sitting at the table with his feet propped up and his hands behind his head while Paul Heyman (ponytail and all) is reading a list of outrageous demands to a worried John Laurinitis. Perfect. Everything heyman does is perfect. This is a great idea and it fits the storyline. A guy like Lesnar is a mercenary. It makes sense for him to only have to fight and have other guys do everything else for him.

 

[jrichardson25]

I hope it leads to permanent employment for Paul. I loved him as Brock's manager the first time, I am sure I will enjoy him this time too. However, I don't want him to go away as soon as Brock does either. Paul Heyman brings a lot of new ideas to the table, and I would also want him to be involved in some kind of creative capacity, more than just Brock Lesnar's mouthpiece.

You're not the only one that hopes for this. I'd love to see what the guy could do for creative invigoration for a few years but that should be left up to Paul and Paul alone. He will definitely be around as long as Brock is but after that? Paul Heyman has The Heyman Hustle that he runs and several other projects that keep him busy so even if he doesn't come back to WWE in a creative role old school fans will at least get a kick out of him being here for a short time..

 

[ccotreau1]

I've no problem with Heyman in this role. I was surprised to see him come out, as I expected some faceless dweeb to be Lesnar's legal council. I thought the internet might suddenly crash due to Heyman's surprise appearance.

Heyman's very good on the mic and he cut a great promo last night. His mannerisms and facial expressions helped to tell the story of Lesnar's disdain for the WWE suits and WWE fans. Heyman played his role very well and I'm so glad that he didn't come out there and harp on his own legacy in wrestling, talk about ECW and all that stuff. Lesnar was made the center and the point of the entire segment and that's exactly the way it was supposed to be.

I totally agree. The only 2 guys I really pay attention to the facial expressions when they cut a promo is Heyman and Paul Bearer, simply because the way they smile and frown are so effective, and sometimes sinister

 

[matman8540]

Paul Heyman is a perfect throwback to the old-school manager. Some wrestlers don't need a manager, Brock does. More importantly, when Paul speaks; people listen (and are entertained). One perfect example was when Paul was doing color on Raw, and the fighting broke the desk where he and JR were sitting, and starts yelling at the wrestlers, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!! This isn't the Spanish Announce Table!!!"

 

[XXJJ]

Brock contract signing segment was awful. That was one of the worst segments hyping a main event match in a long time.

Brock mic skills are horrible. The less he talks the better. The sit down ufc style promo was great. But anytime you give him a mic live on raw it will be embarrassingly bad.

Having Heyman as his legal counsel is a great move. Heyman cuts great promos and can help build Brock's feuds when he is not there.

 

[UFOcalling]

I was completely surprised (pleasantly) by Heyman's segment on Raw last night! I've always been a mark for Paul E., and his presence on WWE TV can only be a good thing. I really hope that Paul is back to stay, but who knows what's happening for sure?

I remember reading that Brock has a limited amount of appearances in his contract, so having Paul there as his mouth piece was a brilliant move. Paul will also help Brock get more boos from the crowd, which seems to be the way WWE (McMahon) wants it. Brock will continue to be cheered by at least half the live crowd, but if Heyman remains Brock's mouthpiece he'll get more heel heat.

I'd love to see Paul continue to appear on WWE TV, and possibly get involved with some creative stuff again too. I doubt that will happen, but it would be amazing to see more TV that Paul puts his stamp on. I really hope he'll stick around, at least while Brock's still under contract. Obviously Paul is only there because of Brock, and I seriously doubt he'll stick around when/if Brock is done with the WWE. Welcome back, Mr. Heyman!

 

[The Crock]

I fucking love this. I marked out so hard when Paul motherfucking Heyman came out last night. It's not because I'm some huge fan -- he is indeed overrated -- but because it was a surprise, and a very welcome one at that. Brock Lesnar's biggest weakness is on the mic. Yes, he can play his character very well and I suppose he's passable, but if the WWE wants the fans to take Brock Lesnar seriously as a potential danger to John Cena's seat as face of the company, he needs to be more complete. This is where Paul E. comes into play -- he's a substitute for the mic skills that Brock Lesnar doesn't have. Heyman's the perfect fit, as he's been here before with Lesnar, but he's also a damn good character, and it looks like he'll be around until Summerslam, according to all the reports I've seen. Not only does Heyman give WWE flexibility with Lesnar's appearances, but he provides for some damn good entertainment himself. I'm very excited to have him back.

This is probably the smartest solution WWE could have put in place and Heyman's the perfect man for the job, but I want to focus on why. Heyman's a great mic man, but he's not a cookie cutter type of guy, by any stretch of the imagination. Heyman is a bright guy and -- love him or hate him -- he understands how to get people over. ECW never would have worked, without Paul Heyman. Heyman understood how to hide the drawbacks of his talent and how to make them look like a million bucks; Heyman's on pace to make Lesnar look golden here. Heyman's passion on the mic is second to none, his love for the business shines through, and his wit is always evident. His promo style makes you believe what he's saying. Couple that with the most legitimate "ass kicker" in the business today, and you have a formula for great success. WWE has the chance to make Brock Lesnar everything he can be -- they can capitalize BIG.

Happy to have Paul back, no doubt.

 

[TLK]

Yeah, as I mentioned in the Raw thread, Paul being back is a great way to keep Brock off TV so that his limited number of appearances can be used for events that actually make Vince money. Plus, like The Crock stated, it's the mouthpiece Lesnar needs so that he stays off the mic and focuses on what he does best - being an ass kicker. Heyman being back breathes life into the Lesnar storyline that seemed to derail after the shocking loss to Cena, and allows Lesnar to stay relevant despite not being present at Raw tapings.

 

[Rockyfolifebo!!!]

I definitely have to say yay. Brock sucks on the mic! Last week in his little skit with HHH and Johnny Ace, it seemed like he was reading off a teleprompter. He is just terrible. I have to be honest though, I've never heard too much of Heyman's promo work. I remember him as a kid, but never really heard any his shoots or anything. I'll go look him up on Youtube now. But if he's as good as the IWC says he is, I'm all for it

 

[scomvp316]

Its great to see the mad scientist back. Nobody is better at the shoot promos than Heyman. At no other time in his career than now is Heyman wanted in so many directions. He could easily be the #1 producer other than Dana White in the UFC. Dana was very impressed on some of the Heyman produced Countdown shows. Heyman could be Brock's manager once again seeing there is alot of reality to their relationship. There is another angle I though of but I will save that for the end. Heyman is back for whatever time period for himself. He knows for the short term if he does well in the storyline his wrestling stock triples. If things in TNA really get out of control from a business end and from the backstage EB with Hogan would be on a very short leash. In TNA right now from the creative team there are alot of pro-Heyman supporters so it wouldn't take much for the Carter Family to bring in Heyman with 100% control. Another possibilty if Sincalir Broadcasting doesn't get the numbers they are looking for with the Steen/Richards angle Cornette could be out and Heyman would be the first and maybe only guy Sinclair would want.

To the angle it would involve Lesnar and Punk. at the Rumble under a championship match have Heyman swerve Lesnat and align himself with Punk. How great of a team would Punk/Heyman be. Punk wouldn't need him for mic skills but as a team to take on WWE. Have a promo with both saying this is wrestling and th WWE along with the WWE Universe can kiss my ass as entertainment is dead. Could lead to a triple threat championship match at Mania involving Punk,Lesnar, and either Triple H or SCSA. At mania have Lesnar turn on the WWE as Punk is still the main guy leading througout 2013 Punk's version with Heyman like the NWO against Cena or maybe Orton. Heyman knows his stock will go up way up with the success of this possible Lesnar/HHH feud!

 

[STILLNWO4LIFE]

Paul Heyman coming back was pure freaking genius. Those ECW chants brought music to my ears. He is top of the line when it comes to really rattling the crowd. I hope your back for good Paul because you just made WWE a lot more exciting.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I guess I stand alone on this one.

Listen to yourselves. You keep talking about how great Heyman is. Since the Attitude Era started, being great on the mic and entertaining meant one thing:

The smarky crowd is going to make you a face.

Part of Brock's beauty right now is that people legitimately can't stand him. By adding Heyman you are adding someone that idiot fans want to see. Lauranitis, Vicki, Cole and AW are shining examples of characters that irritate the hell out of people and have gotten legit heat. Heyman is going to start making Lesnar cool. It happened in Brock's first run and will quickly happen again thus destroying the best wrestling heel the WWE has had since HHH.

And there are only so many kid one-legged wrestlers Brock can push down a flight of stairs in order to maintain his heel status.

Someone please tell me I'm wrong about the dynamic Heyman will bring to Lesnar and what the future will hold for Lesnar. All I hear from the masses is how smart and entertaining Heyman is.

 

[DexVendetta88]

I never found Lesnar to be very strong on the mic, so I think Heyman as his mouthpiece is definitely a good thing. I mean without Heyman, Lesnar would've never reached the level that he is at now. As others have mentioned, I'm also hoping that this is not a one-shot deal with Heyman. In fact, I'm hoping he would return full time managing Lesnar for the duration of his contract.

 

[GrandSword]

Wait a minute, didn't you all hear Paul... Brock quit!


Any way.. Brock is meant to equal legitamcy, and that is his gimmick due to the UFC. So who better to increase the legit level is to bring in Heyman, his real life and kayfabe friend. A man that has stood by Lesnar's side since day one. I think to add to the myth of Brock, I would personally have Heyman appear even more irregularly than Brock does.

To have Paul enter this whole stroyline really takes it to another level, one that gives it a lot more meat than your regular WWE story could as most people know of Paul and Brock's relationship.

Also, as Brock is legitmate.. does it matter if he is thought of as face or heel? Lesnar is a force, he is a heel force, with a tweener manager.. he hates the WWE Universe and so will destroy everyone in his path, to make it known he is the man. It wont matter who he faces, as long as they are the top guys who at the moment are Punk, Sheamus and Orton, all who happen to be faces.

In saying that, could we see Brock as WWE and World Champion? He probably wont be happy with just the one title...

 

[Swiggs]

I would be happy if Paul Heyman returned as a janitor, as long as hes on TV I'll be happy! Him and Brock will have great chemistry when together and Heyman will be able to keep feuds going with Lesnar not appearing at each show. Its a Win Win situation imo.

 

[jacdnwarrior]

Yay all the fuckin' way. Heyman is a great mouthpiece. He really knows how to infuriate a crowd and is arguably one of the best at it. Hell, give him a stable and call it the Dangerous Alliance part 2 or 2012.

WWE would be beyond stupid not to use him for more than that. I'd like to see him as part of creative, writing storylines for the WWE, cuz they could use him. He could help make this feud with Cena and Brock even more memorable.

I wonder if Triple H and Paul E can work together in a behind the scenes capacity though. I hope Vince or Triple H (whoever's in charge) doesn't squander this opportunity and use Heyman to the utmost of his ability.

 

[AwesomeRko]

I guess I stand alone on this one.

Listen to yourselves. You keep talking about how great Heyman is. Since the Attitude Era started, being great on the mic and entertaining meant one thing:

The smarky crowd is going to make you a face.

Part of Brock's beauty right now is that people legitimately can't stand him. By adding Heyman you are adding someone that idiot fans want to see. Lauranitis, Vicki, Cole and AW are shining examples of characters that irritate the hell out of people and have gotten legit heat. Heyman is going to start making Lesnar cool. It happened in Brock's first run and will quickly happen again thus destroying the best wrestling heel the WWE has had since HHH.

And there are only so many kid one-legged wrestlers Brock can push down a flight of stairs in order to maintain his heel status.

Someone please tell me I'm wrong about the dynamic Heyman will bring to Lesnar and what the future will hold for Lesnar. All I hear from the masses is how smart and entertaining Heyman is.

I agree to an extent. Heyman on internet sites is always going to be held in very high regard and with fond affection by at least the majority. Yet he is very versatile on the mic and I think will be able to manipulate the masses into hating him fairly easily.

I remember watching WWE during the invasion storyline with Heyman being a big figure for the Alliance on commentary etc. People genuinely could not stand him and he drew pretty significant heat, exactly as he was supposed to. I was eleven at the time and absolutely hated the man's guts.

If anything with Heyman doing the bulk of the mic-work it can help Lesnar seem legitimate through adapting the strong-silent stance associated with his first term. Meaning an avoidance of him looking a bit silly stumbling over long promo-segments with guys out of his league in that department. Brock can just focus on looking intense and being himself.

 

[I_Like_All_Wrestling]

Yes, of course. I don't think anyone sane is going to argue otherwise. On a scale of mic skills 1-10, Lesnar is a 1, Heyman is a 9.5. Simple as that.

 

[Tyler44]

I guess I stand alone on this one.

Listen to yourselves. You keep talking about how great Heyman is. Since the Attitude Era started, being great on the mic and entertaining meant one thing:

The smarky crowd is going to make you a face.

Part of Brock's beauty right now is that people legitimately can't stand him. By adding Heyman you are adding someone that idiot fans want to see. Lauranitis, Vicki, Cole and AW are shining examples of characters that irritate the hell out of people and have gotten legit heat. Heyman is going to start making Lesnar cool. It happened in Brock's first run and will quickly happen again thus destroying the best wrestling heel the WWE has had since HHH.

And there are only so many kid one-legged wrestlers Brock can push down a flight of stairs in order to maintain his heel status.

Someone please tell me I'm wrong about the dynamic Heyman will bring to Lesnar and what the future will hold for Lesnar. All I hear from the masses is how smart and entertaining Heyman is.

Who legitimately can't stand Lesnar other than the live crowd?

Think about Jericho. Online, he is praised as a "god" (just like Heyman). But at the live show, he is being booed by the live crowd. His skills and the love for him seek no change at the event. That's how it is with Lesnar. That's how it would be for Heyman. The fans are not going to cheer someone for their mic skills if 50% of the fans have no idea who Heyman is.

Lesnar is still praised because of who he is. When I hear his theme and see him, I get excited. He's entertainment, without doing a thing. I do not see hate for him other than the live crowd.

I just can't buy into your point. Heyman on the mic will not make the entire live crowd cheer for Lesnar, or Heyman.

But anyways, the first thing I noticed is how well Heyman did on the mic. I'm a huge fan of mic skills, and he delivered it with ease. It was beautiful to see it again. The Rock didn't impress. Jericho hasn't impressed. CM Punk will say the material, but he doesn't deliver it as well as Heyman can. I just love it. Absolute yes to the idea, he needs to be on tv.

 

[grantedisme]

Yes, of course. I don't think anyone sane is going to argue otherwise. On a scale of mic skills 1-10, Lesnar is a 1, Heyman is a 9.5. Simple as that.

I agree completely with this.

To add to that, Brock looks like a complete beast in the ring, even when he's not in the best shape or health of his life. Paul Heyman, on the other hand, is among the ugliest, most hideous looking creatures to ever be in the business. I thought Golem from Lord of the Rings was in there for a second on Monday. The contrast between the two as far as mic work AND general looks is fantastic.

As a guy who wasn't a fan of Brock's inclusion into the business about a month ago, I admit that this will only make the Brock Lesnar program better.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Nay. Heyman is dated and Lesnar is a huge draw. Heyman looks like it's retro time when he comes on. Pony tail, leather jacket wtf?

Sure, Heyman can cut a decent promo, but Lesnar has outgrown him.

Surely they could have found a better mouthpiece, Dean Ambrose perhaps?

I'm not saying that Heyman isn't amazing on the mic BTW. Just saying that he doesn't feel all that relevant and him being there makes the whole "shoot" feel they had going feel incredibly forced and fake. Heyman's time is over and now even though he's still good on the mic, his act is dated. A new face most people have never heard about who can work the mic would have been better IMO. I'm not the WWE though, I don't have market researchers telling me what the audience wants.

 

[rge2010]

I love Paul Heyman. He has been retweeting suggestions of a future Punk vs Lesnar fued. Heymans involvement would be a story in itself given he has a past with both men. He could be the key to getting the title off Punk and putting it on Lesnar without making Punk look weak.

Brock is going into a programme with Triple H next. Triple H will put him over well. That should probably take us to Summerslam. Maybe Brock dissapears again and then returns for a fued with Orton taking place at Survivor Series and then the Royal Rumble where he gets his title shot at Punk. He wins, defends at Elimination Chamber then The Rock at Wrestlemania 29.

Summerslam - Triple H
Survivor Series - Randy Orton
Royal Rumble - CM Punk
Wrestlemania 29 - The Rock

We may even see him get revenge on John Cena for that defeat.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I don't know if anybody's written anything on this, if they have I'm not intentionally copying you or anything.

According to latest word, Heyman is expected to be part of the Lesnar storyline until at least SummerSlam. One idea that's being heavily considered right now is for Lesnar to "sue" WWE over breach of contract and possibly using the real life legal battles between Lesnar & WWE a few years ago to build heat for the angle as well as give it a real sense of legitimacy. The idea would also involve a lot of viral campaigns, something that Heyman is said to have a lot of experience with.

It could be a fun idea as long as they don't let it get bogged down and overly complicated with a ton of legal stuff.

 

[TLK]

I don't know how I feel about that. Whenever the WWE tries to get "too smart for its own good," something usually goes awry. This is a very simple storyline - no need to complicate it and have it go over everyone's heads like the HHH/Punk/Nash/text message storyline.