Paul Heyman as Brock Lesnar's Mouthpiece- Yay or Nay?

[Nate DaMac]

Psst. Hey guys, did anyone notice that fucking Paul Heyman was on WWE television last night? I am outright flabbergasted that no one has been talking about this on here. Did you all go into a coma or something? Personally, I find him to be slightly over-rated by the IWC, but anyone who denies his charisma on the microphone is a fucking fool. His promo wasn't exactly some scathing dialogue, bordering on a shoot which seems to be the only criteria people seem to use to judge good promos these days, but he certainly put 95% of the locker room to shame with his ability on the stick.

Meanwhile, the last time we heard Brock speak for a length of time, he couldn't put a sentence together without jumbling it up. His mic work was never really his strong suit, but he seemed to regress somehow.

So, do you think Heyman should come back as strictly a mouthpiece for Lesnar?

I normally hate these "bright idea" threads and I will say that by no means am I trying to insinuate that this is an original idea. I hear people clamoring for it all the time. But with the recent character development Brock has gone through, it seems like a logical step.

To elaborate, Brock Lesnar thinks that he is bigger than the WWE. He thinks that he's the biggest star in the world and that the WWE should be bending over backwards to please him. Wouldn't it make sense that he sends in his slimy "Legal Consultant" to do all of his talking for him? And Heyman can pull of slimy better than anybody. His promo was a resounding testament to that.

So yeah, your thoughts?

 

[avi01]

Yes to that. Heyman can only be an asset to WWE, even as just an on screen character. He has charisma, is terrific on the mic and knows how to play an audience..he can only be an asset. Brock`s rise in the WWE would never have been as effective without Heyman in 2002. Brock is not the best on the mic, his taped promos are pretty good but live, he has always been lacking. But he has everything else. Still, Brock would still have to talk(no way he`ll be a silent ass kicker like when he was debuting), so I am looking at Heyman as an enhancement here, specially given that Brock won`t be present every week. That said, I have a feeling that was a one time thing.

 

[mrppv420]

I really don't have a problem with Paul E. comin back as Lesnar's mouthpiece again, as he already did that the first time around. Paul can be alot of fun at times and others, well, it would be like listening to Roseanne sing the national anthem........ at some point, you'd want to super glue your ears shut.

 

[pita323]

I have seen Paul's name brought up several times in other articles lately, I like that he showed up.

One thing about Brock is that John Lauranitis is willing to give Brock whatever he wants. How will that play out in this.

 

[Davi323]

I hope it leads to permanent employment for Paul. I loved him as Brock's manager the first time, I am sure I will enjoy him this time too. However, I don't want him to go away as soon as Brock does either. Paul Heyman brings a lot of new ideas to the table, and I would also want him to be involved in some kind of creative capacity, more than just Brock Lesnar's mouthpiece.

 

[WolfNyte]

I have to go back and look when I said it BUT when Brock came back to WWE after wrestlemania I posted two things. Number one was When would Paul Heyman show up since he is his RL manager. Where Brock goes he goes. Number two was when would we once more see Sable since she is his wife.

Well number one has become reality now when will Sable show up and utter her famous line " Men come to see me and Women want to be me"

I am glad Heyman is back he is great on the stick and knows what works with the crowd. His downfall was always money and not being good at managing it.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I've no problem with Heyman in this role. I was surprised to see him come out, as I expected some faceless dweeb to be Lesnar's legal council. I thought the internet might suddenly crash due to Heyman's surprise appearance.

Heyman's very good on the mic and he cut a great promo last night. His mannerisms and facial expressions helped to tell the story of Lesnar's disdain for the WWE suits and WWE fans. Heyman played his role very well and I'm so glad that he didn't come out there and harp on his own legacy in wrestling, talk about ECW and all that stuff. Lesnar was made the center and the point of the entire segment and that's exactly the way it was supposed to be.

 

[Nick Black]

Ah, thank you for making this thread, Nate.

Yay. Yayyayyayyay. Heyman was always one of the best mic workers WWE ever had. There was a reason why he was the frontman of ECW back in the day, and one of the most influential pieces of the Invasion angle in 2001. Regardless of the fact that we haven't seen Paul on TV in a rather long time, he still shined as a powerhouse and a figurehead that people like Brock Lesnar NEED to thrive. Brock is an in-ring specimen. But a failure on the mic. Paul needs to be there to be his mouthpiece, because Paul was the one that created the heel Lesnar from day 1. Part of the reason, for me, that Brock is so stale at this point is because he can't do crap on the mic. Well, I guess he can do crap. He is crap. But I digress.


Lesnar + Mic Work (Heyman) = Gold.

 

[NotoriousWWE]

I have a slight feeling that Brock actually was the one who called for Heyman to be his mouthpiece. You could actually see how frustrated Brock was with himself during his terrible promo for the Contract Signing before Extreme Rules. It wouldn't suprise me if Vince and the powers that be allowed Heyman to be Brock's mouthpiece however have no interaction with any of them since there is legit heat between many of those higher up in WWE and Heyman.

Honestly, I want Heyman to just let by gones be by gones and jump aboard as a member of the Creative Team. He has such a great way of doing things. OR, i'd love him to be a pernament figure maybe after Johnny Ace is actually ditched due to his lack of charisma they have Heyman take over that sort of heel authority figure role. You want heat? Heyman will gain heat in an instance.

 

[neildittmar]

I haven't literally screamed for something that happened in a wrestling show for at least a year or more...

Then Paul E. came out.

I too was expecting the faceless, nameless "suit" to come out and rattle off Lesnars dirty laundry list, returning back to obscurity from whence he came.

Then Paul E. came out.

I expected a segment with Johnny Ace eventually making his way to ringside, attempting to appease said anonymous suit with promises and guarantees that all of Lesnars demands would still be met. Essentially a re-tread of his involvement last week.

Then... "HOLY CRAP IT'S PAUL FRICKIN HEYMAN!"

Back on topic, needless to say I think Paul as Brocks mouthpiece is a big "yay" in my opinion. Heyman enhances anybody and nearly everybody he has ever worked with. If you have doubts, go look at some of the nameless/faceless ECW guys that are still getting booked (albeit on independent shows) because of the Heyman rub and/or influence.

Brock is (hopefully) going to be a big time player in today's WWE. He has everything necessary to be successful, save for the fact that he runs into some difficulties on the stick. With Paul Heyman alongside of him, he doesn't have this problem anymore.

Hopefully this wasn't just a one shot deal and Heyman will at least be around until this angle with Brock plays out. Ideally, I'd like to see Heyman move on from Brock eventually and help some other talent as well.

 

[streicher187]

I said when he first signed and there was a rumor of Brock vs Rock that Heyman better come back or Lesner would be buried on the Mic before the feud even started. Turns out I was right not only about Heyman but it seems that Brock is so bad on the mic even Hornswaggle could probably bury him.

IF Heyman is sticking around I could see him bringing in some other recruits like RVD (When his TNA contract is up) or recruiting CM Punk. I'm sure Paul would get the same deal as Lesner w/ a few appearances and not a full time schedule which would be fine because I'm sure he's only on air talent and wouldn't be needed for house shows etc.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

I think Heyman coming back is fucking fantastic news!

I hope this isn't just a one night deal, Heyman is one guy WWE need to keep around, even just as an on-screen talent. He can talk better than nearly anyone in the business, and will certainly help out Brock, who seems to have got worse on the mic since he left wrestling.

Personally, I would prefer Paul to be on the creative team as well, to put that "evil genius" mind to good use, but knowing his issues with the McMahon's, I can't see that happening right now.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

No, no, no. Look at the hard on some guys on this forum have for Heyman. Brock has a good thing going. He literally has people buying the BS that he really is "dangerous in the ring", "hates pro wrestling," is "only there for the money" and is "throwing temper tantrums".

In a few weeks Brock would no longer be benefitting from Heyman because the smark crowds would be so far up Heyman's ass we would completely lose the great heel dynamic Lesnar has produced.

Last night was fine. It was a cool surprise in a lackluster show but it wasn't that great of a promo or that exciting a surprise.

Heyman should be focusing on creating not acting.

 

[Prince Punk]

Honestly with Brock on a part time schedule it would be a perfect way to keep him off tv but on it at the same time in using Paul... I mean hell You could literally carry a feud through Brock's Legal council and taped vantages for over 2 months and have Brock make a grand ONE appearance before the ppv to lay the pain on someone. And it would be more interesting and carry more water than when The Rock was showing up on the titantron every couple of weeks.

I think it would make for some interesting t.v as Paul is an amazing character and is in the top tier of mic workers. So use him to further storylines and build up the matches with Brock, it would be the perfect match in todays era of WWE programing.

 

[boywithbluehanger]

Dude, after that atrocious mic work during Brock's signing promo and the mind blowing articulate/flowing nature of Paul Heyman's speech, I don't see how anyone can say "nay" to that.

 

[natlee75]

...anyone who denies his charisma on the microphone is a fucking fool. His promo wasn't exactly some scathing dialogue, bordering on a shoot which seems to be the only criteria people seem to use to judge good promos these days, but he certainly put 95% of the locker room to shame with his ability on the stick...

Amen to that, brother!

Meanwhile, the last time we heard Brock speak for a length of time, he couldn't put a sentence together without jumbling it up. His mic work was never really his strong suit, but he seemed to regress somehow.

And that's exactly why they need someone with Paul Heyman's ability to speak *for* him. I hope they go more in this direction for other talent... it was great back in the day when you had managers like Bobby Heenan and Jimmy Hart.

 

[Pedigree1]

I for one am happy that paulie is back!! He did an incredible job the first time around for brock being his mouthpiece and i see no reason why this time around it cant even be better!! Brock speaking is not exactly his strong suit but with Paul I see very good things for brock in the future.

I think Brock asked for Paul to be his mouthpiece part of his contract negotiations. Just my opinion of course!! You cant deny that Paul does bring charisma and is interesting.

 

[SD619]

I might have been the only one, but when they said 'Brock's legal representative', I imagined it would be Otunga.

Brock is a guy that would benefit from having someone like Heyman as his mouthpiece. Even during his initial run, Heyman did help in getting Brock over. Also, Heyman is better than Brock on the mic and he can hang with the likes of HHH and Cena (much more convincingly than Brock) when it comes to promos.

 

[TheLoneCharles]

This is a big yay, "3 thumbs" up even when looking at the bigger picture.

Heyman coming in to help cover for Brock's weakness on the mic should be something the WWE takes note of. That is because right now Heyman is the ONLY effective manager on the entire roster.

Vicki doesn't really do anything for her clients other than gain heat for herself, and there is a strong argument that Dolph would be best to split away from her. Abe W is untested although the potential is there. Ricardo is solid except that he can't generate enough heat on his client, much like Vicki.

I kept hoping that Heyman was going to mention the reference CM Punk made to him in that "I'm leaving" storyline last summer.

 

[anvilx8]

YES! YES! YES! (to quote daniel bryan)

For a few reasons... 1 - Lesnar can't be there every week. 2. Lesnars promos suck and 3. Heyman is awesome on the mic aaaand 4. It makes sense.. Heyman "brought" Lesnar into the WWE back in 2002

 

[AwesomeRko]

It's 100% great. Lesnar needs a mouthpiece to really hang with the top players promo-wise and his first run with Heyman proved that Paul-E has all the tools. It can also add to Lesnar's character as he can be portrayed as an almost silent, emotionless wrecking machine similar to his first run without the image being inhibited by his blundering on the mic.

The fans may be cheering Heyman now but he is a master of manipulating crowds and will have live audiences everwhere minus the 'smark' towns booing the hell out of him and Lesnar in not time.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

ever sense brock lesnar has returned i have been wanting paul heyman to return to manage him brock isnt good on the mic and his voice will never scare anybody heyman working as his manager and mouthpiece could be great plus when brocks not on tv heyman could show up and speak for him like he did last night i hope paul e sticks around personally.

 

[LascoX]

Personally I was glad to see Heyman walk down the ramp last night on Raw. Heyman and Brock have a long history and its a logical choice for WWE to bring him in for Brock's mouthpiece. Not only will it keep the hype going while not eating up the dates WWE has paid for Lesners appearances, it gets Heyman back in the spotlight in even a limited role. Its great to see him back in the business. This is a win -win situation and adds a bunch of dimension and depth to the whole Lesner angle. The first time around the Lesner / Heyman combination was extreemly good and I think there is potential for this to really take off. Heyman provides the viral rants and Brock provides the ass kicking muscle to back up Heymans mouth. It's a match made in heaven and I am glad WWE had the good sence to bring him back and pair them up again.

 

[Notorious718]

Fucking yay. I didn't watch wrestling during Heyman's time as Lesnar's manager but I did like what I saw from him last night and that this can't result in anything but good. Heyman is pretty damn good on the mic... better than Lesnar, that's for sure. Lesnar stumbling over his words during his contract signing with Cena was one of the most painful things I ever saw on WWE television and I thought he was in desperate need of a mouthpiece. Can't think of anyone better to fill that role than Heyman. I hope his appearance last night means that we'll see him in a manager position from here on out. He can benefit not only Lesnar but other talents on the roster as well.

 

[Truly Phenomenonal]

It's a huge yay for me. Heyman showed last night that he can cut a better promo than more than three quarters of the WWE roster, and probably even more than that. I don't know if I was the only one who felt this way but the reaction that Lesnar was getting from the fans didn't seem as big as it should've been (aside from the night he first returned) his reactions seemed luke-warm. And in my opinion the reason for that is Brock is very one-dimensional, he's a monster in the ring but on the mic is very sub-par. He needs a mouth to talk for him, and that's where Heyman comes in. Lesnar and Heyman together again is a GREAT thing for the WWE.