Online Pass & XBox Live Gold

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The past year or so, some XBox360 games have an online pass voucher inside the game box.

With this being said, :wtf: is the point of paying for XBox Live Gold?

Before all this you had to pay for XBLG to play online no matter what the game & its publisher, but now publishers are cashing in with this online pass voucher lark.

In my house we have 3 xboxes (I have one downstairs & my 2 kids have one each in their rooms) so one of uses the online pass, and the other 2 of us has to buy another each from the marketplace.

Also this has a knock-on effect if you buy the game 2nd hand from a shop, because again you'll have to goto marketplace to buy one.

Is this the shape of things to come? That EVERY game you buy will come with an online pass?:disappointed:

Thoughts?
 
There is no point.
I can see in the future that, yes, there will be online passes in every game, although probably not any time soon.
Thing is, I have a PS3 for the sole reason I had no desire to pay for online. Looking at what's going on now with the 360 online is highly upsetting.
...Not that I will ever, EVER betray Sony- even though my PS3 has almost pulled its last straw.
Even when that happens, you best believe I'm sticking with the PlayStation chain. The only, and I mean the ONLY, reason I ever gave a DAMN about XBox was Halo.
Overall, no point in paying for Live. Get a PS3 or get your damn online pass, I say. Fuck getting Gold Cards, because the only man getting any of that gold is Bill fuckin Gates.
 
Honestly, in the near future it's going to mean squat. Online passes won't exist because you won't even have the option to purchase used games from a brick and mortar store like Gamestop. The trend is going to be moving towards digital downloads and purchases and rather then have 20 game cases sitting around with physical media, you will have a very large hard drive to store all your games in.

With the increase in broadband speed as well as the lower cost of storage, it's inevitable that gaming companies will want to lean this direction. It's the same as Netflix and DVDs. With the advent of a more solid infrastructure capable of handling media streaming, any and all sorts of entertainment will be through the internet rather then physical media. Video games are not exempt from this either, in fact soon you may just as well be streaming the game (think OnLive) and paying a flat subscription per month, or you purchase the game outright and the game is downloaded directly to your console. My question in regards to that is, will we see a decrease in prices for said games if this route is taken?

In regards to online passes, it was bound to happen. Video game publishes absolutely hate the used game market because they get nothing out of it compared to if a customer purchased a brand new game. It cuts into their profits and the customer typically only gets minimal savings in the long run. So let's take Madden 13 for instance. Brand new it is $60 in the box, used at Gamestop will run at $54.99. If the publisher decides that in order to play Madden online you have to pay $5 to get an online pass from the used game, then there is no savings in purchasing a used game, thus the customer would be better off paying $59.99 for the brand new copy. I know this is on the high end equation of things but that's the thinking. The publisher then gets its usual cut of the profits. Does this hurt Gamestop/enter in used game store's name? Yes it does, because Gamestop would normally get the full profit from the used game rather then the brand new copy. It's why Gamestop buys low and sells high. That's their bread and butter because I'm fairly certain after the cut to the publisher is factored in, Gamestop does not make a whole lot of money off of new game sales.

This is only going to increase until the publishers themselves have absolute control over game sales, and at that point you will see Gamestop go under and go under hard. Unless Gamestop can improvise such as they are doing now by selling used electronics, they will falter. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when, thus why they are starting to sell used iPad's and what not.

Is it fair? Sure, at any rate the publisher at least makes something off of a used game sale, even if it is $5-$10. It's a one time fee to allow online gaming, it's not a big difference compared to paying Blizzard $10 a month for access to WoW. Especially considering the publisher often times has to host the servers for online gaming, when they have people that buy used games jump on their server, there is no money there to cover the overhead cost for the servers and data. With a $5 or $10 online pass, at least they can recoup some money to put towards server maintenance and cost.
 
It's not for every game... mainly THQ and EA games. Which is why I don't care too much for WWE online, or playing NCAA/Madden online. Games like Borderlands, Gears of War, Call of Duty, GTA, Halo, and even Tom Clancy's new Ghost Recon don't need play passes. There's no reason for it, because they realize that people literally only buy those games for online purposes.

Even still, buying the games new is a great way to get around things. And for those going "Why should I buy it new?" well this is one reason why. Another reason is, a lot of times a used game isn't worth shit because there are scratches every where and consoles won't read them.

Honestly, I have both PS3 and 360... and I play both of them equally, which is strongly becoming a less and less thing as PC gaming is getting way better. For example, the family guy online game is free to play and it's got a lot of stuff being added in daily that makes it epic. Cryptic (makers of City of Heroes) has made a lot of their games FTP, and then there are a lot of unrecognized games like Crossfire that make PC gaming strong and ready to blow Sony and 360 out of the waters.
 
There is no point.
Thing is, I have a PS3 for the sole reason I had no desire to pay for online.

Get a PS3 or get your damn online pass, I say.

I do have a PS3, but I havent played on it for over a year now as I only use it for watching D/L WWE programming or TV shows/films that I have D/L as the PS3's media player is way better than my XBox one.

Most of my freinds at work have PS3's and do play alot online, but when I did play online they'd all scatter like mice, and seeing as most of the time I didnt see the point of buying the same game on XBox & PS3.

Also didnt Sony's chief exec say last year that Sony might have to charge for online gaming sooner rather than later to keep up with XBL?

Even still, buying the games new is a great way to get around things. And for those going "Why should I buy it new?" well this is one reason why. Another reason is, a lot of times a used game isn't worth shit because there are scratches every where and consoles won't read them.

Whenever I buy a 2nd hand game from instore, I always ask to see the disc before I buy, I also have a freind who run his own store, and I do the same when buying from him too.

So far whenever I do that the workers behind the counter dont seem to mind.
 

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