Nobody Gives a Shit About Shane Douglas

[Uncle Sam]

In fact, I'm not sure anybody ever gave a shit about Shane Douglas. I'm not even entirely sure who he is.

I do, however, know that he's flabby and shit in the ring and I don't give a solitary fuck about him. I think I'd rather watch Kaz, and that's saying something.

Get this washed up bell end off my TV screen. Well, I don't actually watch TNA. I'd consider it if it weren't - y'know - totally shit.

Other people that nobody cares about:
Stevie Richards
Raven

 

[Kip The Fury]

Have to disagree with you about raven at least cos with the right storyline he could be good.

Totally agree with you about shane douglas tho, total waste of space, fat, out of shape and totally ineffective in the ring without that shitty little chain.

Luckily it looks like hes gonna be gone after Slammiversary cos i cant see TNA putting him ova Daniels

 

[klunderbunker]

Did anyone care about Douglas ever? He did one thing 16 years ago and taht's it. He was pretty good in the ring and that's about it. Other than that he's famous for being the only person that was crazy enough to throw down a belt that no one wanted at the time. Why is he still on tv now? I don't know. I guess it's because TNA thinks that any name is a big name, so why not sign him? Makes no sense and is just taking up money.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Having him look even comparable to AJ Styles makes my eyes bleed. Not really, but it does make me magically transform into that smiley with the rolling eyes. You know the one. It's the one that people use instead of arguments.

I'll be sitting there watching TNA on YouTube (actually watching it on Bravo is like pulling teeth), see Douglas looking like that he'd be able to beat AJ in some universe and before I know it, I'm a giant blue smirking head.

 

[Cheech 72]

I agree that The Franchise needs to stay out of the ring. But he is one hell of a promoter and performer on the mic. He needs a manager or leadership role like in the Main Event Mafia. Check out Hardcore Homecoming 1 and 2 on dvd and you will see that he set up one hell of a show. Say what you will about Raven and Stevie Richards but I think they give a nice blend to the product especially with Daffney and her dirty pillows. As long as TNA pushes the young talent over the old they will be fine.

 

[The Greenius]

I would care more if he got back into shape when he fought Styles it was horribly painful to watch and was way to slow, if he lost like 50lbs he might actually be able to perform again

 

[newfnshow715]

I disagree, I am a big share douglas fan and I disagree with what you said about his skills. If you think he has little skills then you must not be a fan of the original ECW or have ever seen it. I however, have and if you have seen him wrestle during that time then you would know he has a lot more skill than 90% of wrestlers today. Especially people in TNA which put me to sleep every time I turn it on.

As for what you said about him being fat makes him bad, well I think that comment is slightly gay. If you are actually gay then cool but judging someone on if they are buff enough for your taste is just homo. Batista has more muscle than both edge and christian but if you would say batista is a better wrestler then you have no business on this site. Would you say bubba ray or D-von are bad wrestlers? yet both could be considered over weight, judging someone on their look is homo. Shane is prob one of the best wrestlers I have ever seen in the ring, watch an old ECW tape and learn what your talking about. Either that or stick with your feelings and keep judging people on how good they look to you lol. To say Nobody cares though is the statement of a moron simply put.

 

[Ezekyo]

Actually, Shane Douglas and Raven coming back to TNA was the most interesting thing about TNA I've heard in forever, so that probably answers your question.

 

[mrstlouis]

In fact, I'm not sure anybody ever gave a shit about Shane Douglas. I'm not even entirely sure who he is.

I do, however, know that he's flabby and shit in the ring and I don't give a solitary fuck about him. I think I'd rather watch Kaz, and that's saying something.

Get this washed up bell end off my TV screen. Well, I don't actually watch TNA. I'd consider it if it weren't - y'know - totally shit.

Other people that nobody cares about:
Stevie Richards
Raven

see you are so wrong about people not caring for shane douglas, raven, & Stevie Richards. the original ecw fans & lot of roh fans do care for shane douglas, raven, & Stevie Richards. right know raven, & Stevie Richards are one of most entertaining things on tna. alot of ecwites are loving it . ECW is taking over tna. shane douglas is not washed up at all. fans like you are the problem with this washed up bullcrap. there is not such thing as washed up in wrestling.

 

[Kip The Fury]

I disagree, I am a big share douglas fan and I disagree with what you said about his skills. If you think he has little skills then you must not be a fan of the original ECW or have ever seen it. I however, have and if you have seen him wrestle during that time then you would know he has a lot more skill than 90% of wrestlers today. Especially people in TNA which put me to sleep every time I turn it on.

That was then... this is now, he's not as good as he was.

As for what you said about him being fat makes him bad, well I think that comment is slightly gay. If you are actually gay then cool but judging someone on if they are buff enough for your taste is just homo. Batista has more muscle than both edge and christian but if you would say batista is a better wrestler then you have no business on this site. Would you say bubba ray or D-von are bad wrestlers? yet both could be considered over weight, judging someone on their look is homo.

When i called him fat i meant out of shape, maybe that wasnt clear. And yes Bubba and devon are fat but they're in shape. It was never about looks, it was about fitness, Shane Douglas seems unfit.

Shane is prob one of the best wrestlers I have ever seen in the ring, watch an old ECW tape and learn what your talking about. Either that or stick with your feelings and keep judging people on how good they look to you lol. To say Nobody cares though is the statement of a moron simply put.

Again, that was then, this is now.

I'll stick to my feelings thanx, and I feel that Shane Douglas is out of shape and doesn't deserve a place in TNA.

I will concede that that statement is moronic tho, you're as entitled to your own opinion as i am to mine

 

[Kliq]

I like men with personality, not boys who are fresh from the diaper changing table in regards to their ability to cut a promo. I'd rather watch Shane Douglas (a man I'll admit I don't even know very well) this late in his career talk about anything than watch AJ Styles or any of the X-Division attempt to come across as believable.

Shane Douglas 2009 is my cup of tea, and working with Daniels might provide him with an opportunity to rise to a level that he hasn't yet been able to. As for his in ring work, there is nothing wrong with it. Again, I'd rather watch a Shane Douglas clothesline than a Petey Williams Canadian Destroyer any day.

 

[Spillz3000]

Shane Douglas was great. I repeat was great. He still has it on the mic but if you were to watch old Shane and then tune into TNA then your watching two different performers. Yeah maybe Shane Douglas deserves respect for being one of the ECW pioneers but any wrestler in their right mind if they had another shot at the big time would get themselves back into shape and make themselves look like the Main-Eventer they used to be. No that's not a gay comment it's someone who likes to see in shape wrestlers as oppose to those that let themselves go and come back expecting to be the same trendsetters. If your favorite football team was filled with out of shape running backs and wide recievers would you be happy about them not being on it enough to hold onto the ball and run or get themselves out far enough to catch the ball? I don't think you would. Yeah I realize wrestling and football are totally different, but if the Shane Douglas you know and love is the ahead of his time ECW main-eventer then you should be dissapointed that he came back in the shape he is in. Now his match with AJ wasn't a borefest but the Shane that you worship would have made that match look a lot better than the Shane of now.

When I first heard of Shane Douglas coming back I'm like alright lets see how this goes cause Douglas can definitely help the company. Douglas still can help TNA but I think he should be the mouthpiece to an up and comer that needs it(Perhaps Morgan or insert wrestler here _______). Hopefully he puts over Daniels cause God know Daniels needs to be involved and used to his full potential in a good fued. So yeah as far as Shane Douglas if he isn't cutting promos or working backstage then at the moment he's not being used to his full potential. As far as Raven and Stevie Richards I disagree cause I believe they can definitely put on a great show(where's Saturn?).

Also as far as looking at condition and being considered gay, does that mean you think everybody on the forums who has commented on Matt Hardy's out of shape stage is gay? Cause that's an ignorant comment. It's true cause a year ago Hardy was in a lot better shape that he is now. I'm a huge Matt Hardy fan and I even agreed. It's more about people wanting their athletes in great condition. I'm sorry but Douglas owes it to his fans to be in tip top condition. That's not being gay that's just wanting the best out of your favorite wrestlers. I don't know I think I ranted to long on this particular topic and I apologize.

Bottom line though at the end of the day TNA needs to start making homegrown athletes instead of relying on temporary fixes that include athletes who made their mark anywhere but TNA. Very little of their former glory signees are making a difference. But that is for another thread.

 

[yoshi_doce2006]

I agree. I mean Douglas was good 15 years ago in the ring and has always been good on the mic but he really needs to stay out of the ring. AJ Styles literally had to slow down so that Douglas could keep up during their match on Impact.

Shane Douglas would be a great heel play by play man but he doesn't look like he has a spare tire, he looks like he is a spare tire. Ric Flair is 60 years old and is in better shape. That should tell you how bad he is right now.

 

[yoshi_doce2006]

Bottom line though at the end of the day TNA needs to start making homegrown athletes instead of relying on temporary fixes that include athletes who made their mark anywhere but TNA. Very little of their former glory signees are making a difference. But that is for another thread.

Hey if you remember WWE didnt get big by creating their own guys right off. Hulk Hogan, Andre, Piper, Orndorf, Big John Studd, the Barbarian, Steamboat, Santana, Michaels, and most of their early stars were big elsewhere first. Piper in the Carolinas, Hogan somewhere in the NWA, Steamboat in the Carolinas, Michaels in the AWA and WCCW, even Hogan was a champion in the NWA first. WWE started off just like TNA is. Give them time. Rome wasn't built overnight you know.

TNA has paid off most of it's creditors but still has some credit to pay off. Once they get all of their creditors paid off THEN they can contract smaller organizations to train stars for them like the WWE now does with FCW and did with Jim Cornette and OVW.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

Douglas looks like crap at this point in his career. He was a good wrestler in the 90's but it has been 12-13 years since douglas has had a good match.

As for his promos he was never good. Just because someone swears every 2 words doesn't mean he's good at promo's. That is called cheap heat.

 

[mrstlouis]

Hey if you remember WWE didnt get big by creating their own guys right off. Hulk Hogan, Andre, Piper, Orndorf, Big John Studd, the Barbarian, Steamboat, Santana, Michaels, and most of their early stars were big elsewhere first. Piper in the Carolinas, Hogan somewhere in the NWA, Steamboat in the Carolinas, Michaels in the AWA and WCCW, even Hogan was a champion in the NWA first. WWE started off just like TNA is. Give them time. Rome wasn't built overnight you know.

TNA has paid off most of it's creditors but still has some credit to pay off. Once they get all of their creditors paid off THEN they can contract smaller organizations to train stars for them like the WWE now does with FCW and did with Jim Cornette and OVW.

WWE did not start out like tna at all. WWF aka WWWF was around the since the 1960's & was born out the NWA over who was going to be champ. before it was called WWWF it was part of the nwa for over 30 to 40 years . your facts are all wrong .Piper did not start in Carolinas, he started in canada. the only thing you are right about is the most of stars of the WWF were from other feds. douglas ,raven & richards are good for tna but i feel that tna is late on jumping on ecw bandwaggon.the person asked where saturn is . saturn will never come back because he had injury or was shot in back. that is what i have heard

 

[Kennedy316]

And yes Bubba and devon are fat but they're in shape...

Seriously? Seriously? Did I actually just read you say that Bubba Ray and D-Von are in shape? Yes, technically round is a shape, but it's not exactly what anyone would call being "in shape." Bubba Ray is a fat man with good lung capacity and D-Von is a beer drinker who hit the roids up to work the upper body and forgot to do the crunches.

Are we seriously sitting here and comparing Shane Douglas (who is, granted, a lot fatter than he was) with Bubba Ray and D-Von for fitness level? Bubba Ray hasn't been skinny since he found his first twinkie at age six and D-Von hasn't been since his early days in ECW. And let's look at Raven. When the man throws his arms out into his "cross" pose, the underside of his arms don't stop moving for at least five seconds. Yes, Shane has let himself go, but he's always been a solid guy to begin with. Scotty Polo on the other hand has always been a relatively small/average guy, so his lowered fitness level is even worse.

Does being out of shape make the Dudleys bad workers? No, quite the contrary. They're great workers. But let's also be honest in saying that they have BEEN in the shape that they are in. Franchise and Raven have let themselves go. Will the in ring work rate suffer because of it? Maybe. But looking at the history of wrestling, fat guys can be good workers if they take it easy in the ring. And from what I've seen of Shane so far, that's what he plans on doing. Although if he's around for a few months, I'd plan on seeing him on the roids and rocking some D-Von level biceps.

 

[yoshi_doce2006]

Ah. But in the Piper DVD Piper admitted to not really becoming anything in the wrestling biz until he was found by Ric Flair and brought to the Carolinas.

I know the wwe was once the wwwf and has been around since the civil war but they really were not anything but that territory up north until Vince Jr bought it and started signing all of the big talent from other territories to exclusive contracts. Something Vince Sr told the other territories he would never use his money to do. What would the WWE be if Vince didn't take the talent from the other territories like that? Not much of anything really because Vince wouldn't have had the stars to promote and eventually expand into an empire. Vince is where he is today because of two things.

A) He could promote like no other booker in the business. He knew how to get the word out that he was coming and how to make his stars look great. The NWA had more overall talent but Vince had more stars and knew how to use them. Give my hat off to him, he marketed perfectly.

B) When he first purchased the WWWF from his father he began siphoning stars from other territories. He had the greatest stars in the business aside from the Horsemen, Road Warriors, Dusty Rhodes, and Sting. He didnt buy the depth of his roster he bought the big names that people wanted to see. The big names plus Vince's genius promoting was what helped him win the war with the NWA.

When Vince got Dusty and then Flair the NWA crumbled. After he won the war with the NWA and WCW split from the NWA he began to build the mid card and to his credit he did a marvelous job.

Fact was Vince had a plan and did not deviate from it. He needed stars to sustain while he built the rest of the product and by the time 1996 rolled around like a viper he struck and had a monopoly 6 years later.

 

[Nate DaMac]

This is hilarious, most of the people who for some reason give a shit about Shane couldn't spell their way out of a nutsack. Shane Douglas looks shit. His match against Styles was fucking horrible. He should be ashamed of himself. He used to be passable, but now, damn. What a weak ass attempt at a comeback. Btw, Raven's weight gain was due to a thyroid condition. He is actually in better shape than his last run.

 

[BFB5304]

Whoever says his match with AJ sucked needs to re-watch it. Was it slower than most TNA spot infested matches, but it wasn't terrible. Just because it was a slow match with a methodical approach makes it bad? Seriously? Not every match needs to be balls to the wall. Watch the little things when you watch the match again. Shane Douglas corrects AJ's head in a headlock for god sakes, why? probably because AJ's not used to being in a headlock for more than half a second before going into a spot just to please all the "fans" who complain about his matches being paced too slowly.

Enough about that. Was Douglas in good shape? Absolutley not. that's why his under armour never came off. Should he have been? absolutely. But do we fans know the circumstances of his comeback. Were you there when he got the call for a possible return? No. How much notice did TNA give him for a comeback? Does anyone know? Was it a month, 3 months, maybe 6 days? if TNA called you and said "we have a job for you." would you reply with a no because you haven't hit the gym in a while?

What I am basically saying is give the guy a break. You don't know the circumstances of his return. Plus he's done more in the wrestling business than any of us with our blogs or forum posts.

"Cheap heat" is still heat. A "cheap pop" is still a pop. When's the last time a few hundred people made a noise when you walked into a room?

 

[yoshi_doce2006]

BFB I have seen AJ work slow matches and he always entertained. I have seen Douglas wrestle many times and he was never that bad. Douglas just looked sluggish. Maybe it was ring rust with the teaching gig he's had he may not have had the gym time. But the match was far from what I expected from either.

But either way he wont be their long because he wont go over on Daniels.

 

[Fleisch]

I used to love Raven, Richards and Douglas in ECW but (in the case of Douglas) I have to agree, the guy is past his best and he looked really out of shape. Anyone who thinks differently didn't see his match against AJ a week or 2 ago You could tell AJ was carrying him through the match. I disagree with you on no one giving a shit about Raven and Richards though, I think they have good chemistry and Raven is a character that never bores me. The Dr Stevie stuff and the manipulation of Abyss was a good angle, although they always seem to use Abyss in manipulation angles so I hope this is the last time.

As for TNA wrestlers putting people to sleep, you're clearly only watching the Main Event mafia because their undercard do put on good matches (especially on PPV).

Just my opinion on it.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Shane Douglas' return doesn't interest me in the slightest. Shane Douglas is nothing more than another neverwas that's bitching and moaning about how the business screwed him over. It's a time honored tradition, after all, for just about every wrestler that never really made it big to blame the "politics" of wrestling for why they never got their shot. It's much easier on the ego than to just admit that maybe, just maybe, he didn't make it because he didn't have the stuff.

While I can't stand AJ Styles on the mic, I enjoy watching him in the ring. And for TNA to try to make fans believe that a paunchy, out of shape, slow, middle age neverwas like Shake Douglas could potentially beat Styles is a travesty.

I wouldn't mind seeing Douglas in some sort of manager or commentating capacity. That is, if he has something more to say than just how he should've been a true legend and superstar by now. He's been spewing that shit for 15 years and it's time to move on because A. Nobody gives a shit anymore and B. Not nearly as many people buy into it anymore as they used to.

 

[Miko]

I dont give a shit about Shane Douglas, or Raven, I recall people calling Raven a mic god, cant see it myself, his return promo was shit, although I'll concede that the material wasnt great.

Douglas just seems empty, funny way of putting it I know but there is just nothing there that comes across as interesting, he wants back in TNA, so he loses a match to AJ and goes on to fued with Daniels, another guy who I just cant get interested in. Not much else I can add to that really.

 

[Krush]

last time i checked shane was a manager at a Target. I wouldnt want to cheer for anyone who managed at a target. Shane is an overated slob who has gotten sloppy in the ring.