No more woooooo?

[Coco]

Shawn Michaels retired at WrestleMania 24 (EDIT: My bad. It was WrestleMania 26), effectively doing away with 90% of chop use in the WWE. The only guy who springs to mind that uses the traditional chop on a semi-regular basis anymore is Chris Jericho. But, as with blood and PG, you all needed an internet report to be outraged about something missing from the product. You didn't notice beforehand that the chop was being phased out. That really speaks to how much of a non-issue this is. Of course senseless McMahon bashing is an IWC tradition, so I'm not surprised by some of your reactions.

It's bitching about things like this that really dulls the impact of legitimate gripes. This thread does no good for any of us.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

Its not an overly big deal as I don't see too many wrestlers using it, but if its in fact true and the chops are being banned so the audience doesn't say "woooooo" then I think it just goes to show you how much Vince and the WWE is trying to keep control of the audience.

They don't want people to be reminded of TNA in any way (and Flair for that matter) so they ban the chop so people aren't reminded of that particular company. I understand from a business point why they do that, but at the same time I'm not a big fan of it because it just goes to show how scripted wrestling has become, they don't even want the audience to think for themselves anymore (even though the audience forcing Austin to become face when they didn't want him to be was probably the best thing that ever happened to the WWE, if that didn't happen, they would probably be out of business right now).

Of course this could all be a rumor (which is entirely possible) but if its not that's how I feel, and it wouldn't shock me at all if it was in fact real.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

As for the “rumour” that it is because of Ric Flair being in TNA, I would be very disappointed if that is the actual reason and not just hearsay. For me, I don’t think that the WWE would go so petty and if they have then they need to re-evaluate what they are doing with themselves. However, I would be very surprised if this turned out to be the case. The WWE has had literally had no competition with TNA and even when they were in direct competition, the WWE didn’t care about what TNA were doing. The WWE just got on with making the product that they could control the best it could be and this move would come way out of left-field if they have finally stuck it to Ric Flair… I seriously doubt it though.

I don't think the decision to ban the "knife edge" really has anything to do with TNA competition. Vince is upset at Ric Flair, and this is how they're dealing with it. If the fans are going to "wooo" every time somebody makes the chop, than I understand why he's doing it. I think it's stupid, I think it's selfish, and I think it's a bad move that destroys a lot of wrestling history. But how can you doubt that it has anything to do with Ric Flair? It's ALL about Ric Flair. Why else would you ban a wrestling move? It's not lethal to the superstars, it doesn't protect anybody, and it's not doing any harm, except for reminding people (Vince) of Flair. It was his move, his crowd reaction, and there's no reason to ban it if it's not for Flair. It's not like Vince just woke up one morning and realized the "knife edge" chop needs to go... It's been in wrestling for decades, and there is NO reason besides Flair going to TNA and screwing with his retirement at Wrestlemania 24.

 

[RiVaLGaMeR]

Well as you can see from a article, it is no rumor. Its Vince's smart decision to give Ric Flair less credit among the WWE Universe. I agree with it, from a business point of view. The chop was the move that got people fired up, and now its obviously got a fan reaction cause of Flair.

TNA will mention WWE from time to time like the signs in the crowd they will purposely show them when they are Anti-WWE. WWE on the other hand could care less about TNA, they know its not going anywhere. Vince thinks "Oh you want to jump to Mondays and try to take our fans? Guess what buddy were going to do a three hour show and do something special for the fans" Its half competition and half ego. Like you cant do what we can do pal just back off kinda thing.

So people are still going to WOOOO but there is going to be less, unless its a verbal riot in the crowds.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

More pathetic game-changing by the self-proclaimed be-all-end-all of "sports entertainment" in the WWE by "banning" things they don't want fans to remember for the sake of not wanting their sheep to be cognizant of the fact that wrestling does in fact exist outside the pretty pink WWE bubble.

So what, Ric Flair never existed in the WWE/F? He shouldn't be remembered, at all, because he went to a rival promotion who you don't even consider a rival? Talk about your all-time blunders...

If the WWE didn't care about TNA, they wouldn't do trivial things like this to guard their lemming fans from awareness.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Meh, chops are ignorant as fuck anyway, one of the dumbest things in wrestling. The point of being a "professional" is to NOT hurt one another.

The only thing more stupid than a guy slapping the motherfuck out of someones chest during a fake fight, is allowing someone to slap the motherfuck out of YOUR chest during a fake fight.

Good riddance.

 

[xXxMiPiSexxyB*tchxXx]

It bothers me to wonder sometimes what goes on in Mr McMahons conspiracy head!! LOL
I really dont see the point in banning this move--It is widely popular-which Flair made famous!! But this just goes to show you how selfish and egotistical one Vince can be. He just thinks that he has the only number one and richest wrestling company in the world-to begin with,and like the other person above me said:

"He think's any wrestler's wrestling root's should only begin or end, in his company."

: dwith

Anyway it didnt come much of a surprise to me being that this is'nt and wont be the only time hes taking notice of TNA--*ahem take a look at Lay-Cool; notice something simular there???>...* Actually coming to think of it-does it seem like Vinnie Mac is pissing himself??..The point is..is that HELL YEAH Vince is Paranoid if he is doing all of these ridiculous and yet stupid things-he must be taking notice!!!

 

[Kayoh]

The chop has been banned for a while now, with Michaels and Flair being the only ones allowed to do it. Both are no longer wrestling with the WWE. Therefore, the copsare banned for everyone, no exceptions. See how that works?

Source (mp3)

 

[Viola Moonlight]

I can see the reasoning behind why they'd get rid of the chop. In the world of professional wrestling, strikes are never meant to connect. That's pretty much the overall consensus. For a chop to actually take place, you need to slap your opponent on the chest so there are marks from the hit. With the chest holding your vital organs like lungs and the heart, and the amount of conditioning needed from those organs to wrestle, it's stupid to keep the move in a wrestling arsenal. It can be argued it's a great way to drain the opponent's stamina and deliver a serious blow, it's not supposed to do this outside of kayfabe. It's more of a safety issue rather than getting back at people who have left. This wasn't done out of spite, it was done out of safety. The chop hurts something fierce and the velocity your hand travels at will always vary, so the move is inconsistent. Sometimes it tickles, other times it can kill you.

In the same case, why do big people like Big Show and Great Khali use their open-palm slaps to the chest? Having those giant hands come down and smack you has to do a lot more damage than a backhand, considering the sheer size alone. Don't get me started on surface area compared to a regular chop. I know Khali is quite limited and any move addition is a positive, as well as having Show using something to impress the audience when he tells everyone to be quite... but the crowd can still chant "woo" from a shot like this.

So yeah, removing the chop to get rid of "woo" is a pretty stupid presumption.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I'm not sure how vigorously this is going to be enforced. I was watching Superstars yesterday evening and Yoshi Tatsu performed several knife edged chops on Primo and the "Woooo" chant took place. Could this potentially be something that Yoshi Tatsu could be reprimanded for? Could it be allowed to slide as it took place on Superstars, which has less viewers than any other WWE program? Could it be that the whole ban on knife edged chops is something that's been blown way out of proportion by the internet?

Any of those are possible but I'm leaning more towards the final one personally. The internet tends to make mountains out of molehills when it comes to something like this. If WWE fans really wanna go "Woooooo!!!", they don't need chops to do it. Now that I think about it, I've even heard "Wooooo!!!" sometimes when The Big Show hits someone with an overhand chop.

 

[Goliath Uterus]

Now if you regularly read the news on the main site, you may have noticed that supposedly the WWE has banned knife edge chops. In fact, there was another report claiming they had been banned for quite some time. The reason they (supposedly) are doing this is because the chops elicit a "whoooo" reaction from the crowd, the "whooo" of course in memory of Ric Flair, who is in TNA.

But just the other night on Superstars, low and behold Yoshi Tatsu was throwing out some nasty chops. And I KNOW for a fact that either the WWE didn't make this rule a long time ago as I clearly remember an incident on RAW a few months back where me and my friend were commenting on how some of the WWE superstars kinda take their chops like a bitch. So, do you guys think this is a case of false reporting by the site? Or is this a case of Tatsu forgetting a recently made rule?