I voted for Batista here because I do feel that he is the better talent. He was decent in the ring and very underrated on the mic. I remember how in his feud with HHH he would get a huge pop by merely removing his sunglasses. That is the very definition of charisma guys. Also Batista worked as a face as well as a heel unlike the one trick pony Warrior. I am pretty sure that had Warrior stayed in a major promotion as long as Batista did, you would be writing of him as an embarrasment rather than the world beater that most of you guys are making him out to be.
Warrior was in the WWF for 5 years, and is not remembered as an embarrassment. Batista was in the WWF for 8 years, not that much longer, especially when you consider he was quite injury prone.
As for the sunglasses thing, this man, this man who runs shakes the ropes and bounces off them got pops as loud as Hulk Hogan in the 1980s. THAT is charisma.
Batista looked far more dangerous in the ring, his moves were more impactful and I daresay Dave himself looked far more of a monster than the facepainted, tassle-wearing warrior. A pumped up angry Batista is a sight to see!
I cannot see the splash keeping 'Tista down, not in modern wrestling. He would kick out at 2 and then the Batista Bomb would end this. No one kicks out of that
This is literally the worst argument anyone can make. Firstly, I would much rather fall 7 feet then have a twenty stone man jump on me. Think about it. Batista comes down with you, you aren't thrown, you're dropped. Warrior dropped you from a similar height, then jumped on you. Just because the splash looked shit, don't be fooled by that. It kept Undertaker down, when he was booked more dominantly, better than the Batista Bomb ever did.
Batista supposedly fearing HHH's pedigree is bullshit. Didn't stop Batista from beating HHH three straight times. Ask Cena about his first encounter with Batista at Summerslam. How did that go for him? The Undertaker got him at Wrestlemania but that's the only one-on-one win he's got over Batista. Undertaker took the loss with two Batista Bombs later in the year. Edge can't defeat him without using some underhanded tactics and neither can Orton.
All true. But if you replace "Edge" with "Everyone" and you come close to explaining the state of things with the Warrior. Undertaker tried to beat Warrior, and failed. Unfortunately, I can't find the video of him beating Taker, so you'll have to settle for this no contest. Pay particular attention to 10:40, which is the point where Warrior stands up after a tombstone, the move that put Batista away.
HBK had to fake an injury to beat him and a couple of months later, Batista destroyed him. If a Pedigree or Tombstone can't keep Batista down most of the time, how am I supposed to believe that a slam and a splash would?
Seeing that you love the Batista only lost when x and y happened, remember he only beat Taker the second time. He doesn't have a second chance here.
Batista isn't going to miss with the Batista Bomb. Cena, HBK, and others have countered it but sooner or later, he got them in the end. Warrior will be no different
Of course, in the case of many of these people, it took him two matches to get them. He doesn't have that luxury here. And if the Batista Bomb is anything like Triple H's pedigree, Hogan's leg drop, Taker's tombstone, Savage's elbow drop etc. he'll just stand straight back up again.
Let's stop this tournament now then. Warrior has never actually lost, so why would he lose to anyone else? Congratulations, Warrior, on winning the 5th Annual Wrestlezone Tournament.
Well he did lose, he just never lost to anyone like Batista. He lost to people who cheated to get victories. Face Batista didn't do that, and heel Batista never won. That's a pretty simple way of looking at it.
You're talking about a HHH who was in the business less than a year. It was a total squash match and everyone knows it. The examples of Batista beating everyone he faced in convincing fashion left and right.
So what. Batista never beat anyone in that manner, let alone a guy being pushed as hard as Triple H was. I tell you what though, I'll accept that Triple H was a rookie, so he could expect to get squashed. Warrior never beat anyone of any significance quickly. The only other video I could find was of him beating this French wrestler. For the time pressed amongst you, the match starts at 2:32, the referee's hand comes down for the 3 count at 2:53. 21 seconds to beat Andre The Giant. 21 seconds.
Brutal Battle...
Warrior only had roughly 60 or so matches in his career.
Let me just stop you there. You really think that a man who was WWF champion 10 months at a time when the WWF were doing 5 house shows a week only wrestled 60 matches in his entire career? Are you fucking ******ed? Even if he wrestled 50% of the shows WWE put on in 1990 that would be about 140 matches in one year. Seriously, don't go on a web match listing that anyone with half a brain cell could see was incomplete and spout utter, utter bullshit.
The last 20 or so in WWF & WCW were shit matches (good job beating goldust). He beat hogan @ WM (his single greatest claim to fame) & he beat Andre- but Hogan beat Warrior as well as Andre.
Hogan never beat Warrior in the WWF, and took almost 100 times longer than Warrior did to beat Andre. Even if you include the WCW win, I'm pretty sure the nWo will keep out of this one.
He squashed HHH based on Hunter being punished for the 'MSG' incident.
WrestleMania 12 - March 31 1996
MSG Incident - May 19 1996
Nice one.
Most of his wins werent exactly spectacular.
Oh yeah, beating Hogan clean happened all the time. Beating Andre in less than a minute was routine. Kicking out of Randy Savage's finisher 5 times happened every day. In fact, the absolute opposite of what you said is true.
Best thing about him was his high energy entrance & his downright hilarious nonsense promos. Warrior was so 'dominant' bc he was notorious for no-selling moves. So he is great bc he just said 'f this' & refused to sell?
Undertaker no sold, Hogan no sold, Andre no sold, it was the way of the time. Not to mention the fact that it seemed to get him over.
He also beat up Bobby Heenan 2 or 3 times. What a competitor. Yes he beat some big name guys in his time, but was also beat buy legends like Savage & Rude. He was not invulnerable- just a roided up guy who got a good push (vince likes big ticket sales) & hes still mad that Sting was\is better than he ever will be...
Savage beat him by count out, and he beat Rick Rude approximately three million times, where Rude beat him once in highly dubious circumstances.
Batista had 5x as many more matches in his career & more titles.
More matches? It'd be close, Warrior had a slightly shorter career, but no injuries. More titles? Yes. However, Batista held singles titles for a combined 544 days, when there were more 4 singles titles to be won. Warrior held singles titles for 725 days when there were 2 of them. So while he won fewer, he was better at defending them.
Yes he was beat by some of the big guys in his time, but holds some pretty dominant wins against them as well. He became better in the ring than Warrior ever could have been. His moveset is by far more punishing than Warriors. Press Slam, Splash will be crushed by Spinebuster & Batista Bomb any day.
Shit argument, as I've said before. Hogan's finisher was a leg drop, and The Rock's was an elbow drop - I assume you'll be voting against them too, right?
Even if warrior no sells, Batista will definately kick out of a damn running splash.
Like Hogan did? Oh no, he didn't.
Like Andre did? Oh no, he didn't.
Like Savage did? Oh no he didn't.
I could go on. Batista has never shown himself to be a particularly resilient wrestler, he very rarely kicked out of anyone's finishers.
So Batista wins out in the titles category& experience category.
Except he doesn't
They are about tied in the strength department, but Batista would ultimately hit the Batista Bomb as many times as it takes unitl Warrior goes down.
Except he can't
Sorry Warrior Nation, Batista 'walks alone' over Warriors neon painted carcass.
Except he wouldn't.
I know you're probably going to spout off some shit about 2008 not being Cena's prime but I don't care. That was the first time they faced in an one-on-one match and Batista beat him.
No, no need to go to such arguments. Batista beat Cena, it's true, but what's important is that he didn't go on from that to being the number one guy in the company. When Warrior beat Hogan, a similar, but better, achievement, he became the face of the company. Batista couldn't do that, and only really got a serious chance on Raw when Cena was out injured.
Batista beat the Undertaker in late 2007 and everyone considers Undertaker's prime to be from 2006-2010
In terms of match quality, yes, but in terms of dominance, no. That was in 1990-1, when Warrior beat him.
It was supposed to be Orton vs. HHH at WM 21 but Batista became so popular so quickly that they changed it and beat The Game three straight times.
Not popular enough to main event a WrestleMania though?
Batista has been the top heel numerous times throughout his career in Edge and Orton.
Warrior beat Savage, DiBiase and Andre, what's your point?
Batista in his prime has been just as dominant against the top guys in his era than anyone else.
Except, err, Warrior who never lost to any of them. Unlike Batista who did.
I know Batista has lost but Warrior isn't going to be faking an injury or having five people coming down on his behalf and Batista isn't going to be injured going into this match.
Savage won't interfere twice, Bobby Heenan doesn't manage Batista, and Batista isn't in the nWo. Batista doesn't stand a chance.
Undertaker is the only top guy that's got him once in Batista's prime. John Cena can't say that, Edge can't say that, HBK can't say that, and Orton can't say that.
Well, Michaels did beat him without cheating, he outsmarted him. If you consider Batista's prime to be 2008 alone, then I guess you could say that was true. Doesn't matter though, because absolutely nobody can claim to have beaten Warrior clean, no qualifiers, no time periods, nobody has ever done it.
Prime Batista is 1-1 against Undertaker with two draws thrown in there in gimmick matches. Batista has decisive victories over HBK, HHH, and Orton. Batista with a fucked up arm beat an Orton who was it his best as a heel in under ten minutes.
Warrior beat Andre in under 1 minute.