Name Change? or Break up?

[Ol'Canucklehead]

I have noticed recently that 2 second generation superstars are having an Identity crisis. Recently Piceless started to be refered to as just Legacy. But last night they had Priceless scrolling on the back stage but were introduced them as Ted Dibiase and Cody Rhodes not sure which order. After seeing that there was some friction between the two I'm left wondering where there going with this. Couple of possibilities:

A- Legacy turning on BiBiase
B- Rhodes/Dibiase Turn on Orton
C- There just out of ideas and are having a hard time finding a way to market them. I mean if they ever turn face, Priceless doesn't really work.

 

[tLight]

They said something last week about how they were only going to be called Legacy from this point forward. But I agree they need to be booked better, or their going to be ruined for the next 2-3 years. Jobbing to Triple H, Shane, and Batista isnt helping these guys get over at all, and having them lose this tag match they pumped up also doesnt help.

I think DiBiase will be the bigger of the two, just because he's taller, and larger than Rhodes. Not to mention that hes doesnt look like he has a case of downs. Rhodes will be a solid Mid Carder for years to come, but I dont see him getting any further up than that.

If they turn them on Orton, they need to build them up a lot better to start that feud, because right now, it would be an SQUASH Match, with Orton punting them off Raw to the depts of FCW so they can be repackaged.

 

[Cappie]

I have to agree with you tLight having them job certainly does not help them get over. At first I really liked Cody and Ted as a tag team and I even liked them joining up with Randy Orton, but now its just boring to see them come out and just stand there not winning matches as much as they were. Right now I believe that its only going to be a couple of weeks or possibly even tonight where we see Randy Orton kick Ted out of evolution. Since the Marine 2 is about to come out and with all of the spoilers indicating that Ted will become a face to promote the movie seems to become more evident with each week. However I have to say I don't see him being really that big as a solo wrestler other than maybe a brief feud with Randy on Raw and then maybe a program with Cody. The same goes with Cody I really don't see him doing anything then maybe being a mid carder the same way Ted will be after he first breaks off. Either way if Legacy breaks up I don't see Ted and Cody really being that big.

 

[brochester8]

I like Cody and Ted but agree that they aren't proving much with Orton in Legacy right now. I am one to say Legacy needs a powerhouse with DH Smith out of the pic I can see Joe Henning who is supposed to be good from what I hear.

Back to them though. I really seen them winning the title last night, and hate that they changed the match last minute. I see this turning out somewhat how Evolution did, with Ted getting pushed as a face and possibly winning either the US or maybe somehow leaving with the WWE title like Orton did. Possibly even winning the king of the ring next month or whenever they do it this year. Either way Orton will not like the spotlight that is shined on Ted and jump him or have someone "new" jump him. Possibly Henning. This would be interesting but honestly I think they should bring in Henning now to make Legacy a little more interesting. It is a good idea they are doing but they aren't doing what they should with the group.

 

[HHH=The Peoples King]

I think Legacy will turn on him tonight or next week (which is taped tonight or some reason)

Thus turning Ted face in time for The Marine 2 coming out soon
I see Ted doing the same thing Orton did when leaving Evolution

but I think Ted will be a face for life, maybe heel every now and again

Cody, I see a life mid-carder if turned around soon, but if he stays the guy jobbing to Batista and Triple H every week then he will be like Santino, good turned to shit

 

[Chill]

First off, I don't think Legacy should disband now or in the too near future. The reason I think this is because Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase have not truly benefitted from their association with Randy Orton ...there is still so much they could do, all options have not been exhausted.

In my opinion, Rhodes and Dibiase should have won the tag titles last night at the Bash as that would have given them a focus of their own which both desperately need right now. Legacy is only going to be considered a success if it produces two future stars of tomorrow in the form of Rhodes and Dibiase and at the moment that is not happening.

However, the solution to this in my opinion is not to simply go "Oh we've tried this Legacy thing out and it's not working so let's just break them up!" No, no, no. WWE put this faction together and instead of taking the easy route out and disbanding them before they are actually ready to be disbanded, they should instead put more effort into the two young stars of the group in Rhodes and Dibiase. These guys are just crying out to be properly utilized and there is no reason why the Evolution formula could not be applied here.

To draw a comparison, in Evolution we had two promising stars in the form of Orton and Batista...so what did WWE do with them? The answer is that they gave them their own personality and identity....Orton was the Legend Killer who focused a lot of his energies on the IC Championship while Batista was the enforcer who teamed with Ric Flair and held tag team gold. Hence, when the time came for Evolution to disband the two promising future talents were ready to go out on their own and to make the dispansion successful.

Fast forward to Legacy and last night at the Bash we see the first cracks in their cement in the form of Dibiase confronting Orton with Rhodes stuck in the middle between the two, fair enough...but can anyone really say that Dibiase or Rhodes are ready to break away from Legacy and realistically challenge him? I personally don't think so and that is because WWE have failed to give Rhodes and Dibiase a personality of their own...why not let Rhodes go out and be the 'American Dream No.2' or let Dibiase be the priceless star he claims to be, while both still remain under the watchful eye of Orton within the confines of Legacy?

That way, as with Evolution, when Legacy does disband it will be far more impactful than if they were to simply prematurely pull the plug now. I don't believe Dibiase is anywhere near ready to break away from Orton and challenge him, how could I? What have WWE done with him thus far to make me believe he could do that? Again the answer is that they haven't done anything. That is why I believe WWE need to keep this group together...Rhodes and Dibiase deserve to be built up more within Legacy before we see the inevitable breakup.

I just have a feeling that it is too soon to do the breakup now, hell I hope I'm wrong but at the moment I can't see it realistically working. Rhodes and Dibiase are the ones who have the most to gain from Legacy but more importantly the most to lose, Orton is over and always will be...Rhodes and Dibiase are still getting there...Legacy is important to them and whatever happens in the coming weeks I just hope WWE doesn't rush it and I hope they consider the long term impact of breaking them up now, especially if it's just for Dibiase to make a face turn for the Marine 2 (which of course shouldn't be the reason they break up now).

Originally posted by Ol'Canucklehead: I have noticed recently that 2 second generation superstars are having an Identity crisis.

That is my point exactly, WWE haven't given them an identity which is why if they were to disband now I fear it wouldn't be as successful if they were to be built up within the perameters of Legacy as legit stars before we see a breakup...

 

[The_Predator_Since_1993]

I really hope that the wwe doesnt disband legacy this early which they gave a hint to last night by showing the first cracks begin to develop in the group which i feel is way to early to do if you are hoping to make these two second generation superstars main event draws as they havent had a chance to establish themselves and i agree with you guys saying they dont have an identity and to break them up now would be huge mistake on behalf of the wwe as once they have broken up there would be a short feud between Orton and Dibiase but it would be pointless as its far to early as theres no character development and theres no real believable relationship within the stable and a match with them two this early would not be able to headline a ppv and after that they would most likley be jobbing to every superstar as they have nothing to build on as there is no reputation to incorporate within a storyline as its like they have no background or depth to their character and it would be a shame to let this young talent be wasted. If wwe really wanted to make a move in helping them they would of given them the win for the tag titles last night so it could help establish them. Also they should be put into a real program with two top stars such as Edge and Jericho for Night Of Champions so they can gain some credibilty by working with two of the best superstars in the wwe.

 

[BADBOYZ]

I don t see WWE disbanding LEGACY I am a huge fan of LEGACY myself and seeing Vince mc moron screz up by giving the titles to EDGE/JERICHO is really cheap since I truly believe LEGACY should of won the titles already they are young and hungry and determined to win and since LEGACY is almost a carbon copy of Evolution soon they ll all have the titles within the stable that is why Randy Orton worked things out with Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase Jr and trust me on this maybe tonight you ll expect either a repeat of yesterday as 3 tag teams enter or a disqualification when Orton interferes to help them get the tag team titles for Rhodes and Dibiase Jr or maybe at Night of Champions Legacy will defeat EDGE/JERICHO lol wait and see lol

 

[BADBOYZ]

I think Chill is wrong and ignorant on his part Cody Rhodes and ted Dibiase Jr will be jobbing like there is no tomorrow are you insane lol seriously they haven t even got a push that they deserve at least if they win the tag team titles of EDGE/JERICHO since they won already titles EDGE = EX champ Jericho = EX IC Champ geeeez and you are pushing the old farts and not the young ones who truly deserve it like Rhodes and Dibiase Jr since they already assisted Orton yesterday expect Orton to assit Rhodes and Dibiase Jr as well wait and see they are second generation superstars so they won t make them disband now as it is too early not enuff character development for Rhodes and Dibiase Jr and look how long Evolution lasted so expect LEGACY to last longer
Night of The Champions I can forsee Rhodes and Dibiase Jr finally defeating EDGE/JERICHO and capturing the tag team straps!!!

 

[Razor]

I have noticed recently that 2 second generation superstars are having an Identity crisis. Recently Piceless started to be refered to as just Legacy. But last night they had Priceless scrolling on the back stage but were introduced them as Ted Dibiase and Cody Rhodes not sure which order. After seeing that there was some friction between the two I'm left wondering where there going with this. Couple of possibilities:

They're just adding a dynamic to the team. They're frustrated that they can't beat the Colons. OK. That's plausable.

A- Legacy turning on BiBiase
B- Rhodes/Dibiase Turn on Orton

Too soon. They've only been together how long? Not anywhere near soon enough. The stable hasn't even reached it's peak yet. It's still the "Oh, you dastardly heels. Getting in ma business" level. They aren't even truly a threat.

C- There just out of ideas and are having a hard time finding a way to market them. I mean if they ever turn face, Priceless doesn't really work.

Well. They could just be trying to clean up the names. Calling the stable "Legacy", but calling Rhodes and Dibiase "Priceless" was confusing. I didn't know what to call them, and I'm sure others were confused as well. Calling the stable and tag team "Legacy" is cleaner, and just plain easier to keep track of. It makes sense.

But they really do need to get the booking of Legacy down. They should be much more dominant than they are. No one really gives a shit about Rhodes and Dibiase. They hate them just because they really hate Orton, and the heat gets transferred by association. Which is really the point of a stable, i suppose, but damn. there's a difference between hating someone and giving a shit about them. Which the crowd doesn't when it comes to Rhodes and Dibiase.

 

[Chill]

Originally posted by BADBOYZ: I think Chill is wrong and ignorant on his part Cody Rhodes and ted Dibiase Jr will be jobbing like there is no tomorrow are you insane lol seriously they haven t even got a push that they deserve at least if they win the tag team titles of EDGE/JERICHO since they won already titles EDGE = EX champ Jericho = EX IC Champ geeeez and you are pushing the old farts and not the young ones who truly deserve it like Rhodes and Dibiase Jr since they already assisted Orton yesterday expect Orton to assit Rhodes and Dibiase Jr as well wait and see they are second generation superstars so they won t make them disband now as it is too early not enuff character development for Rhodes and Dibiase Jr and look how long Evolution lasted so expect LEGACY to last longer
Night of The Champions I can forsee Rhodes and Dibiase Jr finally defeating EDGE/JERICHO and capturing the tag team straps!!!

If you actually read what I have written you will see that I agree with a lot of what you say. I'm saying that the signs WWE have given us both at the Bash and on RAW suggest a possible break up in the soon/near future. I said that is NOT what should happen yet as it is too soon, yes Rhodes and Dibiase have been jobbing a lot, hence why I said they need more time to develop within Legacy and as I stated, a good way for that to occur would be for them to win the tag titles...hopefully that will happen (that's what you're saying, right?). So I don't see how I am wrong and ignorant when I am essentially agreeing with you...a good idea is to actually read what people write.