Miz or Barrett

[Disturbed]

After both of their careers are over, who do you think will have more world title reigns? This includes the WWE championship and World Heavyweight Championship combined.

I really want to say Miz but I am afraid I can't. Miz is my favorite wrestler and I believe he is better than Barrett. But Barrett is already established as a main eventer and will probalbly win at surrvivor series. If their was never a Nexus then I would have to say Miz. Nexus has made Barrett. Sure he was good when he won NXT but now WWE has faith in him as a WWE champion. Miz and Barrett will both have a lot of championships or at least I hope but even though I don't want to I have to go with Barrett. Sorry Miz

 

[BigRedPunk]

More World titles? Barrett. Because WWE already sees him championship quality. But as a better wrestler and performer overall? The Miz. He is slightly better on the mic (though Barrett is good), more charisma, and very entertaining.

 

[Cmac3311]

I voted Miz but actually I'm going to say they may win the same amount...
Wade and Miz both have solid charisma and both are very good in the ring...
Miz has become an entity on his own, whereas Wade Barrett has the Nexus, easily the best faction in pro wrestling since the NWO. (MEM was cool on paper but it would have been more effective 8 years ago).

That being said I still believe both will win around 4-5 world titles with Wade being a permanent heel, while Miz one day becoming a face.

 

[RkoMachine]

i gotta disagree with both of you here, what has Barrett done? he's had like 4 matches on his own! and he is ok in the ring dont get me wrong but Miz is miles ahead of him, And yes he is good on the mic but miz imo is better. I dont believe Barrett will win at SS but that is a totally different thread intirely, so in closing, i think Miz will be the first of the 2 to hold the title and i also think at the end the Miz will have more reigns with it

 

[Raven1788]

This is all going to come down to what happens with Barret after the Nexus is no more. How good will he remain and drawing heat without a pack of thugs beating on people for him? How will he remain over with the crowd? Will he be turned into the next William Regal (american audiences hate english wrestlers look back in history) and will he come up with a finisher that doesn't look like something that you would do in a pillow fight? Meanwhile the Awesome One continues to get over on the stick, in the ring, with the crowd (anyone else notice the boos for the Miz are disappearing no matter what mean shit he does? We have seen this before...it was with the Rock) and he has been doing this all on his own (ya he has Alex Riley but that dude is never allowed to touch a mic or do anything actually consequential) so I am gonna say The Miz will not only win more titles but will be the only one of the two to matter this time next year....BECAUSE HE'S THE MIZ...AND HE'S.......AWESOME.

 

[Xemmy]

Miz. Why?

Miz is may not be winning his titles first, but WWE has him set to be the next posterboy. Miz is going to win quite a few more than Barrett, probably in a 2:3 ratio. Vince has alot more backing in the Miz than he does Barrett, even if it doesn't look that way right now. It's only a matter of time. As soon as Miz cahses in that briefcase, you're going to see a plethera of title reigns in the next 5 years.

 

[Aotearoa (Bushwacker)]

i gotta disagree with both of you here, what has Barrett done? he's had like 4 matches on his own! and he is ok in the ring dont get me wrong but Miz is miles ahead of him, And yes he is good on the mic but miz imo is better. I dont believe Barrett will win at SS but that is a totally different thread intirely, so in closing, i think Miz will be the first of the 2 to hold the title and i also think at the end the Miz will have more reigns with it

Of course Miz is miles ahead of him he's been in the WWE longer. You'd expect him to. That also means though he is perhaps closer to retirement than Barrett. I understood the thread to mean when all is said and done when both careers are over and both are retired. Not who will be the first to get it but when all is said and done who will have had the most.

I would love it to be MIZ and agree with most of the posters here but feel it will be BARRETT.

 

[TheKarmaEffect]

If this question were "Who would win one first?", without even knowing the Cena angle I would have said Wade Barrett. Wade has that immediate World Champ look to him. Add his charisma and moderate to good ring work and it's easy to see why in today's WWE they'd put the belt on him so soon.

Miz I like to think of as a Christian except he's at the right time and Vince doesn't hate him. Miz has worked his way up VERY diligently, not only building a very solid career already but also an extremely rabid fan base. The day WWE pulls the trigger and turns him full on face, I easily see a superstar who could keep up in every way with John Cena. Be it souvenir sales, on the mic, in the ring, and fan support, a face Miz would rival if not out and out beat Cena in all of these categories.

But you're asking in the long run. Well given that both guys stay injury free Lord willing, I see Miz having the more stellar career. Miz will very easily be talked about in the way we talk about great wrestlers and champions today (HBK, Rey, etc.) And yes that is VERY lofty company but I think Miz can and perhaps will be in that league.

Wade Barrett may be, I'm not saying he's not. But apart from leading a strong heel group and being good in the short run, even if he gets the strap at SS, he still hasn't shown me that he CAN someday be mentioned in those breaths. Not yet anyway.

 

[ultraviolence]

um it's going to be the Miz, and here's why.

Barrett is a one trick pony, flash in the pan at most. He won't last long, hasn't wrestled much at all and more importantly when he pulls off the upset after a long hard fought battle with Orton at SS (probably winning by cheating) the Miz will cash in and take his title. Trust me, Barrett won't last.

 

[rbacica]

I, for the life of me, cannot figure out what in the blue hell all of you people see in the miz's sorry ass...ive been watching wrestling religiously for 24 years...i know wrestling and wrestlers....Wade Barrett will win more titles in his career..why you ask--because hes more talented, all the way around..In the ring and on the mic, He's just plain and simply better-esp. for the heavyweight division...the only area these two r even close in is finishing moves--both of their finishers blow donkey dick horribly..they both need new ones.....Miz has absolutely no business in wwe much less the wwe spotlight...I mean come on, the best fucking thing this little bastard can come up with is "im the miz and im awesome" PATHETIC PATHETIC PATHETIC...Its more like IM THE MIZ AND IM AWEFUL!!!!!!!!

 

[Y2JChrisJericho]

Barrett, but I can see Miz getting more title reigns because he'll have the title for shoter periods of time. Barrett to me is better too, I like him in the ring better, and he's good on the mic too (but Miz easily is better). Give me Barrett, I like his look too, he's a tall guy, but he isn't the typical monster heel we ALWAYS see, it's something different. Also Nexus is up there as one of the best stables along with NWO, DX, Evolution, etc. and he's the leader of this stable, it already gives him a lot of credibility, and I see him winning at survivour series.

 

[rbacica]

OH YEA....THe biggest insult is for the queer ass miz to be running around with the mitb briefcase....but the spit in the face will be, not when but if Vince is ever dumb enuff to give miz's fagghot ass the heavy title...me n plenty of others will boycott and quit watching wwe altogether if that ever happens....vince has never made an ignorant choice so why start with the miz

 

[JohnOldSnake4]

I think The Miz's excellent mic work and abundant charisma will tip it in his favour. Also I think Miz would work better as a face than Barrett would, just from my observations so far. I think Miz is more versatile and this means he can work main event programs with more varied champions/challengers.

 

[LegendKiller716]

Regardless of who I like more, The Miz will win more title belts. I believe he has the very rare ability to make himself interesting, and if he starts to become stale he can make himself fresh again.

 

[conkdeeznuts]

Of course Miz is miles ahead of him he's been in the WWE longer. You'd expect him to. That also means though he is perhaps closer to retirement than Barrett. I understood the thread to mean when all is said and done when both careers are over and both are retired. Not who will be the first to get it but when all is said and done who will have had the most.

They are both 30 years old


And I said Barrett He to me just reminds me of a JBL type heel and that means long title reigns and always being in the ME but Thats not saying i dont like the Miz ive been a fan of miz before he was in wwe but i just cant picture Miz with a world title

 

[zman21]

wade because of his size. wwe is big on big men and miz is not the smallest but he is not big as barrett. all i know is buth men will be huge in pro wrestling in the next 5 yrs and will probly have about 7 or 8 tittle reigns each

 

[Toxs]

With the arrivals of both Sheamus and Barrett plus the arrival of CM Punk to Raw I really don't feel the Miz has stood out or will anymore.

Miz cuts a good promo, but he's yet to top the one that put him on the map. Barrett imo is just as good if not better, he comes off as a much more natural heel rather an annoying prick.

In-ring, the Miz's skills are about the same as Barrett, a lot of holds but lacks the power and size Barrett has.

I see Barrett holding more belts with longer reigns aswell.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

This isn't a question of who's better I guess in which case I would have picked Barrett without a shadow of a doubt. But this question of who will win more titles is a bit difficult as they are both regarded very highly by the higher ups in the WWE.

I'll go with Barrett though because I feel he will remain a heel throughout his career. Miz will be turned face sometime in his career but I do not feel he will be able to maintain his heat in the presence of other over faces like Cena and Orton and will be pushed to the back of the card. Barrett, as a heel, will have more feuds with the likes of Cena and Orton and so he will stand a greater chance of winning the title.

Let's see it this way. I do not see Miz becoming either the top face or the top heel of the company while I do feel that Barrett could become the top heel of the company. In fact he is the top heel on Raw right now. A pretty good achievement for a guy who has spent less than a year in WWE.

 

[Malenko316]

Rbaica, I'm worried that you've watched wwe for 24yrs and a) think VKM hasnt made a bad choice in putting the belt on someone and b) that the quality of ring work has anything to do with titles or length of runs.

Anyway onto the issue. This is not about talent (ring or mic) or about whether I personally like the choice, as in all categories WB wins hands down. WB was thrown in the deep end leading a stable against Cena, Orton and possibly at WM the undertaker and has come out so far very well. His moves are limited, but then Cena, Hogan et al racked up multiple titles with a maximum of 5 moves. His mic work is solid - on par with the current yardsticks of Cena, Edge and Jericho. Oh and he's 6'7 270 ish in a company that prefers true heavyweights.

Yet, with all that said and despite I think the Miz is one of the most overrated guys ever in company - up alongside Hogan, Cena etc, I think he will have more title runs and longer ones. Three reasons: 1) He's good mic worker - only in the sense so far people are buying what creative write for him. 2) He has the potential to more easily work as both heel and face. The fact is, and check the records if you doubt me, that Non US (or at least non north american) wrestlers struggle to get over as faces or get pushed. (I don't know if the implicit racism lies in management or in the audience, maybe both). 3) most important - Miz understands that in order to be given multiple titles you have to toe the company line and be the ideal company man like Cena. You also need to not only kiss up to VKM directly (a la HHH), but also to the other favored guys (like Seamus with Trips). If WB learns this, then maybe he could run Miz close. Otherwise, and as much I will personally dislike it, Miz will win more, at least half a dozen.

Remember - this a business, a family business. It's not about talent - its about kissing up to the right people so they give you the best material and choose you to wear the title. (No one in the WWE or pro wrestling ingeneral, 'wins' a title). On that score, so far, the Miz appears the better/or at least favoured, businessman.

 

[Strife3]

You know this is a good question. You see Miz has come along way and I see him and Barrett doing what Cena and Orten and even Cena and Edge use to do. go back and forth. When some of the other wrestlers retire I see Miz finally going face. What I see is Barrett needing Nexus to do most things where the Miz for along time did things on his own. Ok he had Morrison and even the Big show behind him at one point but the Miz will be a big player. I see Barrett having more title runs then the Miz but I think Miz will hold the title longer.

 

[Derf]

Right now, this is an unfair question to ask. On one hand, Barret has less then 1 year under his belt, therefor if he DOES win the title this soon, he might end up getting pushed too soon and droping to the midcard (Sheamus anyone?)

On the other hand, while everyone, Vince included, loves the Miz right now, I also think he's gonna be a one trick pony. He will win the title when he cashs in, but when I look at him, I just don't see main event material. Miz entertains each night when he comes out with whatever random person they want him to cut a promo on, but I've never seen Miz in a serious feud with someone.


Right now, to ask this question, it's way to early. For all we know, NEITHER of these guys could EVER win a World title. But if I gotta pick one, I pick Miz with 2 world title runs. As soon as Nexus is done and Wade has lost his title, I see him going the way of fellow heavyweights Kozlov and Khali. Once feared, now laughted at.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

For you guys questioning if Wade can get heat without Nexus, I ask:

"Can Slater, Gabriel, Otunga, Husky, and Lil Hennig get heat without Wade?"


If you said "Yes", then you haven't been watching.


All signs point to Wade getting more title reigns.. as of right now. He is naturally big, charismatic, amazing on the mic, and is solid in the ring. Add the fact that the guy is a total heat magnet and has unmistakable presence.. He is everything that WWE allegedly looks for in a main eventer. I think he would be much easier to sell as the WWE champion than most of the guys on Raw. He isn't the most experienced guy, but he has really learned from working with Cena (i.e. His match vs Orton at Bragging Rights was 'meh.', but he tried to mix up what he did.)

The Miz, on the other hand, seems more like a Plan B in case Wade doesn't live up to the expectations. Over the summer, he really teased cashing in his title shot. But as soon as Wade took off as the number one heel in the company, they really toned The Miz's exposure down. They still reminds you ever couple of weeks that the Miz is on the verge of being a main eventer, but more often than not, Wade is the one talked about in the end.

 

[sharmaq]

As I've said before; to anyone that thinks Barrett looking good is only down to him having the Nexus with him, please look at the times when the Nexus have been featured without him. That alone shows that it's him who makes the Nexus look good, not the other way round. I can see Barrett doing just fine without Nexus but can anyone seriously imagine Nexus getting over without him? The Miz deserves props as he's clearly worked really hard to improve himself and he has the right attitude. I think he's good on the mic (albeit slightly overrated) and improving in the ring, to the extent where he can have very good matches, but only with the right opponent. I don't ever see him being able to carry inferior opponents to great matches.

As far as the thread title goes, I think the question comes down to how Miz's 1st, seemingly inevitable run with the title goes. If it bombs then I think he'll be consigned to midcard mediocrity, but if it's a success I see multiple title runs for him, (both as heel and babyface) as well as his ascent to becoming the WWE's new figurehead with John Cena. So in short, the Miz to get more title runs if the first one is a success, otherwise it could be Barrett who has more title reigns.

 

[Ferbian]

It's gonna be hard to judge. Both are very talented wrestlers both on the microphone as well as in the ring (Wade is better in the ring yet The Miz is better on the microphone). Both certainly have a great future ahead of them within WWE.

Yet I think there's gonna be one thing that will make me lean more against The Miz. The very fact that Vince McMahon seems to have his eyes set on The Miz being the future of the WWE. Due to all his public appearances, his thorough devotion to the company etc. It just seems to me like The Miz might become the next big name in the business - The next John Cena if you will in terms of getting a good handful of world titles. And on the other hand I see Wade Barrett perhaps becoming the next Randy Orton in terms of being massively over, and having been a great heel in the past 5 years of WWE history, yet he won't have the same amount of world titles as John Cena / The Miz.

So, I'll sadly have to lean towards The Miz. Even if I would love to see Wade Barrett be world champion quite a lot when the time comes.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

i gotta disagree with both of you here, what has Barrett done? he's had like 4 matches on his own! and he is ok in the ring dont get me wrong but Miz is miles ahead of him, And yes he is good on the mic but miz imo is better. I dont believe Barrett will win at SS but that is a totally different thread intirely, so in closing, i think Miz will be the first of the 2 to hold the title and i also think at the end the Miz will have more reigns with it

Barrett has done more with less already... In those 4 matches he has shown excellent maturity and understanding of the biz... He is perhaps the most "natural" main eventer to come down the pipe since Lesnar... where as Miz has had to fight and learn over time, Barrett just seems to have more inate charisma...

Barrett will win at SS then Miz will Cash... Nexus will save him... and Miz will have to go the Rumble route... The key to this is that Barret is a pure heel... I doubt he will ever be a face anywhere but Britain... Heels hold more titles than faces as faces chase... Miz's chances will be less over time with one title as only one guy would chase at a time... Jericho is the best example of this, he has had lots of reigns, short ones but all as a heel... Vince seems determined to make Miz his next big face... this alone will mean less titles...