Misawa / Edge

[TheOneBigWill]

So wait....

I'm reading...

Is Will accusing the Staff of making alts to vote for Misawa

Not all of them, just the ones who voted for Misawa.. but what else do you have...

or is he saying that the staff made alts to vote for Edge, just to play it up as a fool voting for Edge?

No, no that would be giving them way too much credit. They only seem to know how to play out bad practical jokes. Well, except for the Admin one..

Speaking of which, guys, Sly, Irish.. the name is still not slightly tilted to the right or bold. I know patience is key, but this is beginning to get slightly upsetting.

Or is he saying that the alts are magical, and don't exist? That Tdigs, IC, and the rest of staff are making them up so that Misawa can win in a wrestling tournament that has no real connection to the wrestlers or their professional statuses?

We have a winner! This. All of it. All of it is win.

Conspiracy theories abound. On a motherfucking wrestling forum. Dear Lord and Baby Jesus.

Agreed.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

So wait....

Is Will accusing the Staff of making alts to vote for Misawa, or is he saying that the staff made alts to vote for Edge, just to play it up as a fool voting for Edge?

I believe that's one of his insinuations.

Or is he saying that the alts are magical, and don't exist? That Tdigs, IC, and the rest of staff are making them up so that Misawa can win in a wrestling tournament that has no real connection to the wrestlers or their professional statuses?

I believe that this is another of his insinuations as well.

 

[Mr. Steve]

Fuckin' x2!!!

 

[Razor]

Yeah, i was afraid Will was trolling. Couldn't tell from a lack of the word fort.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

Yeah, i was afraid Will was trolling. Couldn't tell from a lack of the word fort.

Well, he's building one right now, or it's already been completed by the time I post this response.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I didn't come across CM's post with all the alts in it until this round of voting. But, now that you mention it, this is the same guy who had two alts that voted for Michaels. But, Sly discounted it because he said just as many people with proxy IPs voted for Kobashi, and we just assume those are alts.

Well, if you're going to investigate one.. then its only fair to do them ALL. Otherwise, its considered biased. And hey, if Koby should've beat HBK then so be it, and if Misery deserves to beat Edge then I'm all for it.

Fair is fair.. but you just pointed out alts were made in EVERYTHING, so I'll be expecting a full systems report on the update with who rightfully should've won, lost, and exactly who had what alts so I can properly match-up names to make sure this isn't naturally just one big fabrication.

In the interest of fairness, of course.

Firstly, I've never said what you're quoting me as saying there. You and HBK-aholic love to use that excuse though.

I'm sorry, did I misquote something you seem to have edited? I checked the post - its the same as the one you originally seemingly typed up. What did I say you did that you apparently felt you didn't do?

Secondly, what you're saying does not make perfect logical sense. Just because I like Misawa, this in no way, shape, or form MUST be the reason why I brought up the alts. There could also be other reasons (e.g., a staff member's responsibility to report alts).

There could be other reasons (your own words), which indicates that even in what you're saying provides me with enough to believe you aren't even positive that it was the only reason you checked into all of this.

Thus.. my theories are correct. Will - 2, Digglet - 0

I have no problem with you saying that I brought up the alts only because of my love for Misawa.

Thats good, because this pretty much shows you did it not because it was your modding duty, but instead because of your love for Misawa. Thank you.

Will - 3, Digglet - failed.

And before you say I left out the "with me," saying it bit.. I just wanted to bold the interesting part and then add in.. if you have no problem with me saying it, then clearly its correct and truth. Afterall, if someone was injustly using my name in a way I felt was untrue (such as the rep-reward for votes thing from last yr) I'd say something about it other than I was okay with it.

But saying that this MUST be the reason why I brought up the alts is a false assertion.

If I said it "must" or even "MUST" then I retract that word. I'm sure its not the sole reason you did it. Obviously you'd need a better back-up than biased actions.

Sorry but its the truth. I HAVE followed Edge since he debuted. However this is the internet and you can't prove anything so I'm leaving it at that.

Whats the truth? And what can't I prove because this is the internet?

and TM other members have called Will worse than an idiot. chillax bro.

What did TM do, Doug?

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Well, he's building one right now, or it's already been completed by the time I post this response.

A lot of people need replied to, what can I say?

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

Well, if you're going to investigate one.. then its only fair to do them ALL. Otherwise, its considered biased. And hey, if Koby should've beat HBK then so be it, and if Misery deserves to beat Edge then I'm all for it.

Fair is fair.. but you just pointed out alts were made in EVERYTHING, so I'll be expecting a full systems report on the update with who rightfully should've won, lost, and exactly who had what alts so I can properly match-up names to make sure this isn't naturally just one big fabrication.

In the interest of fairness, of course.

I would not care if all alts are investigated.

I'm sorry, did I misquote something you seem to have edited? I checked the post - its the same as the one you originally seemingly typed up. What did I say you did that you apparently felt you didn't do?

I never said that people that voted for Edge are idiots.

There could be other reasons (your own words), which indicates that even in what you're saying provides me with enough to believe you aren't even positive that it was the only reason you checked into all of this.

Thus.. my theories are correct. Will - 2, Digglet - 0

No, could indicates possibility, nothing more, nothing less. If you feel that you can insult my intelligence, then why can't you comprehend these simple things, Mr. MENSA?

Thats good, because this pretty much shows you did it not because it was your modding duty, but instead because of your love for Misawa. Thank you.

Will - 3, Digglet - failed.

No, it's more like:

Will:

tdigle:

And before you say I left out the "with me," saying it bit.. I just wanted to bold the interesting part and then add in.. if you have no problem with me saying it, then clearly its correct and truth. Afterall, if someone was injustly using my name in a way I felt was untrue (such as the rep-reward for votes thing from last yr) I'd say something about it other than I was okay with it.

I have no problem with you saying it because you seem to have about as much sense as a New York City hobo who warns Times Square visitors about the impending Apocalypse.

 

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

What did TM do, Doug?

He red repped me for calling you an idiot.

 

[X]

Holy fuck Will would you please shut the fuck up? No one is interested in your nonsense.

 

[jmt225]

I think it's hilarious that all this time Will kept spewing out that he didn't care about this; that it didn't matter if Edge lost... however, as soon as there's someone looking into the results, he throws this hissy fit.

Will... what happened to you not caring about this? Thank you for proving that you were full of shit this entire time, and that Edge winning did mean a lot to you.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

On a side - related to the Tourney match - note: Irish, I won't break down your post until this matter is resolved. I want to make sure I debate your post with nothing on the line. (that way no one is lead to believe I somehow forced people against their will's to vote for Edge; again.)

1. It may not resolve. If I cannot prove anything with the possibility of alts, then it doesn't matter and it goes to triple threat since the match legit ended in a tie.

2. By the time you respond, I will have moved on and lost interest. Oh well.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I would not care if all alts are investigated.

This is what I believe would be just and fair. Thats all. I mean, isn't that what everyone has been harping about all along? Fairness?

Look, do what you want to be frank. Look into one specific Wrestler's votes, and ignore all the rest. And be called a hypocrite and a biased official. Or look into everything equally and justify everything rightfully. I don't see how that isn't the right way to go about controlling this entire thing to begin with, thats all.

I have no problem with you saying it because you seem to have about as much sense as a New York City hobo who warns Times Square visitors about the impending Apocalypse.

When the world ends, that Hobo won't look so naive and foolish having known the truth all along, now will he?

He red repped me for calling you an idiot.

Well that I do not agree with, its childish and immature.

You can call me whatever you wish, it doesn't mean I'll give it the time of day. Shit, X has red repped me repeatedly for my 2 whole posts on this Misawa/Edge issue.. he has felt the need to troll me through rep, and beyond calling him on it - I could care less what he, or anyone else thinks.

I didn't know who you were before you felt right in calling me an idiot, and my opinions on not caring who you are after still remain in-tact.

Holy fuck Will would you please shut the fuck up? No one is interested in your nonsense.

Ironic, isn't it? The man who's thrown the biggest fit in this whole matter.. finally getting tired of reading someone else complain?

I think it's hilarious that all this time Will kept spewing out that he didn't care about this; that it didn't matter if Edge lost... however, as soon as there's someone looking into the results, he throws this hissy fit.

Will... what happened to you not caring about this? Thank you for proving that you were full of shit this entire time, and that Edge winning did mean a lot to you.

Where have I posted anything that says I want, or care 100% or even half of that, that Edge specifically wins? I'm actually sure I can even directly lead you to a post (or multiple ones) in which I've said Misawa can win, could win, or should just be given the win. So please enlighten and direct me to where I put up this fit you are referring to, as it regards Edge winning.

While we're on the subject, please show me where beyond this thread, or any other similar to it, where I have even carried on with this laughing stock of a situation?

I think the closest you'll find is me stating that if any investigation should be made, then one in every "considerable case" should be made, so things don't look as shady as they already do. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Never in any of those, did I say Edge should flat out win and finally.. read very carefully on this as well..

If I truly wanted Edge to win.. he would have. Misawa isn't a big enough name to over 70% of this forums members. Edge is not just a current mark favorite, but a top name in the biggest Company known right now. I had Edge taken all the way to the finals over names twice as great as Misawa will ever be considered as, by this forum's members. And he wasn't even a pure fan favorite by many that voted in his favor.

So never, ever, doubt my ability to get Edge over someone; regardless of who, or how great, they may have ever been. I proved that a year ago.

1. It may not resolve. If I cannot prove anything with the possibility of alts, then it doesn't matter and it goes to triple threat since the match legit ended in a tie.

2. By the time you respond, I will have moved on and lost interest. Oh well.

Its never been a big secret that you have the memory span of a small child.

All joking aside though, this has been the one serious thing I was considering. So, because with all due respect I'd like your attention and interest on the matter.. would you prefer I replied to you, now? For purpose sake, I can do so via PM if it would get your attention quicker.

I mean, I'm sure if I did so as a direct public reply it would spark all the Misawa fans to reply for you, when all I really want is.. your.. direct.. reply.

 

[The Doctor]

I think this needs music.

 

[X]

You can call me whatever you wish, it doesn't mean I'll give it the time of day. Shit, X has red repped me repeatedly for my 2 whole posts on this Misawa/Edge issue.. he has felt the need to troll me through rep, and beyond calling him on it - I could care less what he, or anyone else thinks.

I red rep trolls---which is what you are. A troll.

Ironic, isn't it? The man who's thrown the biggest fit in this whole matter.. finally getting tired of reading someone else complain?

I don't remember writing any fucking 100 page essays like you do. Put away the word forts and maybe some of us will actually take the time to read what you say, because 99% of us just skip your posts because you ramble on and on and on about absolutely fucking nothing.

Now, would you mind kindly shutting the fuck up?

 

[Mr. Steve]

I think this needs music.

True story...I got the sheet music for that.

Back to the point: I just want to know what the is the point for Will since I'm confused: Is it all a matter of Misawa being an unknown to a percentage of this forum, whereas Edge is a top face at a company?

I just got to point out something: It matters fuck all if the decision to vote is by kayfabe rules. Which, at this conjecture, also means fuck all if a percentage of the forums havent seen a match, or a moveset from Misawa.

Granted, I voted Misawa, but I researched it beforehand so my vote wasn't entirely wasted. I just went by kayfabe rules. And those rules dictate: Misawa's one tough motherfucker to spear, Edgecute, Get a sharpshooter on etc. etc.

That's just me.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

X, I'm not gonna take the time to quote you and all that because quite honestly its becoming repetitive. I say something, you say *explotive deleted*. I explain my side of things, you say *explotive deleted*. Regardless of how much, or how less sense I make, you just keep replying back with brainless foul language. So there is really no point.

As for the lower cased x that replied above this.. (you really should consider a name change - you made me think X replied twice in a row. )

My overall point was simple. If any type of investigation is going to happen for this match, then how isn't it justifiable and fair to do it for EVERY match that has ever had some type of questionable foul play involved? (ie. the HBK/Koby match to name one)

I just find it incredible odd how we've had 4 threads created in Misawa's favor, asking and pleading with members to vote for him. (which is fine by all accounts, until Misawa fans claim some type of 'cheating' and 'foul play' is being had on Edge's part, when creating 4 different threads on the same exact subject in an attempt to buy votes is more or less just as cheap.)

Again, and make sure this is understood.. I don't care if 20,000 threads are created on trying to beg for votes. Its a tactic that is useful and good. It may be cheap and underhanded. It may be dirty and low, but its NOT breaking any rules. However, once again - a similar subject was brought up about how HBK cheated to win his match in similar ways because someone was asking others to vote for him. So how if that was cheating, is this not?

As for the alt. accounts. Absolutely, if there are some.. ban them, and re-do the round/voting. Or take off votes, and give the win to Misawa which is seemingly what the majority wants to happen anyways. I'm merely saying, in the interest of fairness why not make it seem like you're trying to have a fair and unbiased tournament.. which means, if you're going to investigate ONE specific Wrestler who may have had alts. vote for him.. investigate EVERYONE that had the same accusations. Is that not the fair thing to do??

 

[X]

Yeah, not reading that. Did you not hear what I literally just said to you about long ranting word forts that nobody gives a fuck about? That's one of them.

 

[X]

Oh, and we did investigate other match ups that there may have been tampering with. Trust me, I made sure alt accounts were checked in that match up and we in fact found someone who voted twice and removed his vote. HBK still unfortunately won.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Yeah, not reading that. Did you not hear what I literally just said to you about long ranting word forts that nobody gives a fuck about? That's one of them.

No, literally I didn't. I'm sure had you of read mine then you would've gotten that I simply believed you only replied with a bunch of brainless foul language since thats what you commonly do.

My bad, how was I to know you'd actually say something of interest for once.

Oh, and we did investigate other match ups that there may have been tampering with. Trust me, I made sure alt accounts were checked in that match up and we in fact found someone who voted twice and removed his vote. HBK still unfortunately won.

Then Staff needs to collectively get on track, together. Because it wasn't but just a couple pages back I think Tdigs said he would be fine with an investigation being made in everything, then someone (Tdigs, possibly again) saying Sly just said they were ignoring it since cheaters voted on both parties so it was thrown out. (but did the exact same # of cheaters vote for both sides? Isn't that kinda odd?)

So then if Edge cheated, remove the votes. How is that so hard? No need to rant and rave about Edge not being good enough, its not like Adam fucking Copeland created an account on WZ - noticed he was losing to a Japanese guy, he himself probably enjoys watching, and said "fuck this shit, I'm finding the ultimate opportunity to win this bad boy." and created 6 alts. to vote his way to victory.

In fact, lets just side step this being in relation to Edge or Misawa in the tournament all together.. how did an alt. get so far IN to the forums in general.. let alone, vote? (someone said 6 times, I think)

The bigger question is; Why did M-Bot not pick them up the split second they were making the account? And you can't tell me no mod/g-mod was on, because you - yourself - are always fucking online.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

I said those things, but in reverse order. Dude, you are becoming more wordy and confusing by the minute.

 

[X]

Good lord Will, what in the fuck is your problem? We look into something if there's been reports of alternate accounts voting twice and we do it with every fucking match up that someone looks into or is suspicious about.

Good God man, do you ever get tired of stirring up drama?

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Ruling has been made and posted, so all of you may now engage in a group unbunching of your panties.

 

[Барбоса]

Ruling has been made and posted, so all of you may now engage in a group unbunching of your panties.

Channeling the Kelso

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Channeling the Kelso

My name is IC25 and I like ****es.