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Michael McGillicutty: Life after New Nexus

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With the New Nexus being without a leader of the group, it may appear that each member could go there own way in the future as single's wrestler's after David Otunga & Michael McGillicutty drop the WWE tag team titles to whomever in the tag team division.

Everybody knows that Michael McGillicutty aka Joe Henning is the son of the late "Mr. Perfect" Curt Henning, and the grandson of wrestling legend Larry "The Axe" Henning. So why not have the whole "Michael McGillicutty" thing dropped! And just let Joe be Joe. It could be a transformation from a charactor to a real person, like Deuce to Sim Snuka a few years ago with Joe.

But instead of having Joe Henning take off of his late fathers gimmick, just have him be the opposite of his old man. His gimmick could be, "I'm not perfect". Because in life nobody's perfect. Have him wear a leather vest or something like that down to the ring to some generic rock music with Joe Henning saying in the theme "I'm not perfect"!

It would be cool to see Joe Henning win the U.S. championship like his pops did in WCW. Or have him come to Smackdown and win the IC championship. Anything could happen in the WWE.
 
Yes, indeed anything can happen, but it will not.
He is good in the ring, but he has 0 charisma, even my grandmother can make the crowd cheer louder than he does, and if he wasn't the son of Mr.Perfect he would be in the independent circuits fighting for the Regional Wrestling Championship (I think this doesn't exist)
Don't forget that pro-wrestling is not about doing some neck breakers, it is also about the storytelling and let me tell you, he can't tell a story

Look at his "amazing" promo work, such passion and love, I think that everybody need to learn from him.

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The entire promo

I will punch my screen if I see the USA or IC Champion named McGillicutty.
 
He has charisma. Thats not the same as Mic Skills. So try not to get them mixed up.

He needs work no doubt. He needs to be taught how to cut a promo. And in time i think he will hone those skills. Look at Bret Hart. On the mic when he first started out, he was a joke and a half, even for his time. But he grew into a role where he was convincing. Not fantastic, but convincing.

Same as Batista, his mic skills got better as the years went on. Edge and Christian are the two main case studies though. Both were atrocious on the mic, until they found their stride in 2000.

I'd rather see him go down the Perfect route than the Im not perfect route. That just sounds a bit too corny.

TBH, i'm not sure what i'd do with him, one idea is to have him as a tag team wrestler with D.H Smith with the name of "The Fortunate Sons" like what was meant to be Cody Rhodes/Dibiases stable a while back.

Then have him turn on Smith after a year or two and have him as a Narcissistic singles wrestler.

I'd prefer to see him with the IC title tbh. Mr Perfect is better remembered for holding the IC title than the US IMO.

His name does need to be changed though. He wont get his real name though. WWE wants their wrestlers names to be owned by them...so it seems.
 
He has charisma. Thats not the same as Mic Skills. So try not to get them mixed up.
He has charisma? Oh boy, he is like the last guy we notice on New Nexus, even Mason Ryan has more charisma, he just hangs around I guess.

He needs work no doubt. He needs to be taught how to cut a promo. And in time i think he will hone those skills. Look at Bret Hart. On the mic when he first started out, he was a joke and a half, even for his time. But he grew into a role where he was convincing. Not fantastic, but convincing.

But the difference is that Bret Hart actually was awesome in the ring and he showed passion in what he did, comparing this guy to Bret Hart is like kicking Bret in the balls...

Same as Batista, his mic skills got better as the years went on. Edge and Christian are the two main case studies though. Both were atrocious on the mic, until they found their stride in 2000.

Batista actually was very good cutting promos, do you remember Cena vs Batista?
Oh God Edge and Christian were what? You lost every credit here, look boy
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Edge here is by far better than Michael McGillicutty

I'd rather see him go down the Perfect route than the Im not perfect route. That just sounds a bit too corny.
Do you actually think that he has what it takes to be his father?

TBH, i'm not sure what i'd do with him, one idea is to have him as a tag team wrestler with D.H Smith with the name of "The Fortunate Sons" like what was meant to be Cody Rhodes/Dibiases stable a while back.
So you would join him with a guy that isn't even on Superstars?
Glad that WWE didn't hire you...

Then have him turn on Smith after a year or two and have him as a Narcissistic singles wrestler.

Yes, because him and Smith could be a perfect stable, they both have charisma and cut promos so well :banghead:

I'd prefer to see him with the IC title tbh. Mr Perfect is better remembered for holding the IC title than the US IMO.

His name does need to be changed though. He wont get his real name though. WWE wants their wrestlers names to be owned by them...so it seems.

I don't want to see the same old things, I don't want to see Cena's son being Cena 2.0, Undertaker son being Taker 2.0, this is ridiculous, just look what it did to DiBiase...
Can you imagine Orton living by his father legacy?

Look he has potential, but if WWE is giving a ramp to anybody isn't going to be him, he seems a stranger, he need to be way more confident and he needs to make us feel that he is there, I actually think that David Otunga has more chances to be IC Champion than Michael.
 
Realistically hes probably screwed and doomed to wrestling on Superstars and then midcard for life status :shrug:

I think his infamous promo from NXT was hilarious , I think his name is hilarious , but being hilarious doesn't seem to get you ahead in WWE (See : Zack Ryder) D:

I think if he changes his name to his real name Joe Henig and got serious he would stand more of a chance of getting somewhere

He could prove us all wrong as hell though , I mean look at Orton in his 1st year on WWEs main roster... he was even more ..... un-special... than Michael McGillicutty and now look at Orton

So yeah , McGuillicutty is a real wild card , he could get released , he could job/midcard for life , but he could be the next overpromoted overpushed guy like Orton ended up being
 
Your ignorance astounds me.

But the difference is that Bret Hart actually was awesome in the ring and he showed passion in what he did, comparing this guy to Bret Hart is like kicking Bret in the balls...

Bret wasnt awesome at first. You seem to be forgetting that Hennig has only been wrestling for 4 years, Bret hart had almost 6-7 years under his belt when WWE signed him. Aside from that, i quite clearly stated it was about mic skills, not in ring ability, so why you brought that up i dont know. Probably trying to look clever. I'll say it again, Bret Hart was terrible on the mic, but gained experience, and got better. Not brillient. But far better than his earlier stuff. Maybe you should actually learn to read what i say before insinuating im Comparing Hennig to Bret Hart in all aspects. Its still early for Hennig, you have no idea how he will turn out. He's not ideal on the mic yet thats true, but he still has plenty of time to get better.

Batista actually was very good cutting promos, do you remember Cena vs Batista?

Once again, you seem to of read something that wasn't there. I said his mic skills got better as time went on. I didn't say he wasnt any good did i? No. So once again, stop trying to look clever.

In that video you just posted, while yes, Edge was better than Hennig in that Promo, he was still very bad and downright corny. There was nothing in that promo that screamed that he was special on the mic. I mean people say the Undertaker used to spout about rubbish in his promos, yet this is gold is it? Edge didn't sound convincing as a character at all. It's well below average.

But aside from how bad i think Edge was there, he got better. Far better. In time.

Do you actually think that he has what it takes to be his father?

Did i say that? I don't think anyone could be better than Mr Perfect. He truely was the whole package.

So you would join him with a guy that isn't even on Superstars?
Glad that WWE didn't hire you...

Yeah, because if they did, talent wouldnt rot on a show no one gives a fuck about. Best time in pro wrestling was when every single member of the roster had something to do weekly on television. But by your standards, it seems we'd just have the same old crap coming out, and no new superstars made.

Yes, because him and Smith could be a perfect stable, they both have charisma and cut promos so well

A tag team isnt a stable...what are you on? Give them a manager and they'd be fine as a tag team. Most undercard wrestlers dont get any promo time, so once again your argument isn't valid.

I don't want to see the same old things, I don't want to see Cena's son being Cena 2.0, Undertaker son being Taker 2.0, this is ridiculous, just look what it did to DiBiase...
Can you imagine Orton living by his father legacy?

Fuck...i didn't realise that by holding the IC title he'd be Mr Perfect 2.0....By that argument, if Cena did have a son that went into WWE and won the WWE title, then he'd be Cena 2.0

Do you actually realise what you are typing?

Joe Hennig would be Mr Perfect 2.0 if he Acted like he was Perfect, if he adopted the same gimmick his Father had. If he developed the same ring style his father had. Not by winning the IC title.

But that could push on and you could actually get a storyline out of it. Mr Perfect has gone down in history as one of the greatest IC champions of all time. Joe could carry on the legacy. But he can also adopt his own ring style and character. Or is your ignorant mind too limited to imagine that?

Look he has potential, but if WWE is giving a ramp to anybody isn't going to be him, he seems a stranger, he need to be way more confident and he needs to make us feel that he is there, I actually think that David Otunga has more chances to be IC Champion than Michael.

You see, this is the problem i have with people like you. You don't give talent a chance to get over. He's been on the main roster less than a year, and already you are assuming he wont go nowhere, after what you have seen in 8 months.

He hasnt had any chance to develop a character yet. But you are shitting on him. Every good character takes time to develop. Very rarely is one is an instant success.

How about you give him a chance to actually develop. 3 Years ago, no one would of thought Zach Ryders character to come as far as it has, 3 Years ago, Dolph Ziggler was getting crapped on and everyone on forums saying he was on the future endevours list. Sheamus was trashed continually when he was moved over to raw. Yet all 3 of those developed a character of their own. with TIME.

And thats what Joe Hennig needs. Judgeing someones early promo work is never going to hold much weight. Everyone has to start out somewhere, and when they do start out, in front of 10000 people, you dont think nerves kick in? But in time, you will learn to cope with those nerves, and by doing that, you will get better on the mic.

So actually think things through before posting. You said he has potential. So how about giving him a chance to show that potential instead of trashing his work after 7-8 months of being on the main roster.
 
Your ignorance astounds me.



Bret wasnt awesome at first. You seem to be forgetting that Hennig has only been wrestling for 4 years, Bret hart had almost 6-7 years under his belt when WWE signed him. Aside from that, i quite clearly stated it was about mic skills, not in ring ability, so why you brought that up i dont know. Probably trying to look clever. I'll say it again, Bret Hart was terrible on the mic, but gained experience, and got better. Not brillient. But far better than his earlier stuff. Maybe you should actually learn to read what i say before insinuating im Comparing Hennig to Bret Hart in all aspects. Its still early for Hennig, you have no idea how he will turn out. He's not ideal on the mic yet thats true, but he still has plenty of time to get better.

You said that:
He needs work no doubt. He needs to be taught how to cut a promo. And in time i think he will hone those skills. Look at Bret Hart. On the mic when he first started out, he was a joke and a half, even for his time. But he grew into a role where he was convincing. Not fantastic, but convincing.
This is a comparison, didn't you went to school?

He has plenty of time? Big News for you, he is 31 years old he is in pro-wrestling for 4 years... WWE can surprise us, but I think that are by far better
superstars and with more experience than him on the roster to have a push.
McGillicutty is bland, he is getting old so he should think about evolving to amuse your great love for him.

Once again, you seem to of read something that wasn't there. I said his mic skills got better as time went on. I didn't say he wasn't any good did i? No. So once again, stop trying to look clever.

Oh sorry, find me one promo from McGillicutty better than this
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And a match with more impact than this one, from his debut
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In that video you just posted, while yes, Edge was better than Hennig in that Promo, he was still very bad and downright corny. There was nothing in that promo that screamed that he was special on the mic. I mean people say the Undertaker used to spout about rubbish in his promos, yet this is gold is it? Edge didn't sound convincing as a character at all. It's well below average.

Oh god here Edge looks like a vet if you compare him with the pomos I posted from McGillicutty.

But aside from how bad i think Edge was there, he got better. Far better. In time.
He wasn't bad, if you consider it his promo debut, he has like a lot of more potential than McGillicutty combined, so here you have the reason for why Edge was world champion, he showed potential when he was what 22 years old? (i'm to lazy to go check on wiki)


Did i say that? I don't think anyone could be better than Mr Perfect. He truely was the whole package.

Look you contradicting yourself in the same post
that could push on and you could actually get a storyline out of it. Mr Perfect has gone down in history as one of the greatest IC champions of all time. Joe could carry on the legacy.

Yeah, because if they did, talent wouldnt rot on a show no one gives a fuck about. Best time in pro wrestling was when every single member of the roster had something to do weekly on television. But by your standards, it seems we'd just have the same old crap coming out, and no new superstars made.
It is your opinion not mine, best time pro wrestling had his like from the 90's and 2000's in my book, and they always were stuck with superstars.

A tag team isnt a stable...what are you on? Give them a manager and they'd be fine as a tag team. Most undercard wrestlers dont get any promo time, so once again your argument isn't valid.

stable = tag team... Evolution was a stable and a tag team, so I don't really care about what they call to that.
Why would WWE waste time on DH Smith and McGillicutty?

Fuck...i didn't realise that by holding the IC title he'd be Mr Perfect 2.0....By that argument, if Cena did have a son that went into WWE and won the WWE title, then he'd be Cena 2.0

If he adapts their fathers gimmick, believe me they will be a 2.0 version...

Joe Hennig would be Mr Perfect 2.0 if he Acted like he was Perfect, if he adopted the same gimmick his Father had. If he developed the same ring style his father had. Not by winning the IC title.

But that could push on and you could actually get a storyline out of it. Mr Perfect has gone down in history as one of the greatest IC champions of all time. Joe could carry on the legacy. But he can also adopt his own ring style and character. Or is your ignorant mind too limited to imagine that?

Why do you think that Michael can carry with his father work? I can't not even a bit...

You see, this is the problem i have with people like you. You don't give talent a chance to get over. He's been on the main roster less than a year, and already you are assuming he wont go nowhere, after what you have seen in 8 months.

He hasnt had any chance to develop a character yet. But you are shitting on him. Every good character takes time to develop. Very rarely is one is an instant success.

How about you give him a chance to actually develop. 3 Years ago, no one would of thought Zach Ryders character to come as far as it has, 3 Years ago, Dolph Ziggler was getting crapped on and everyone on forums saying he was on the future endevours list. Sheamus was trashed continually when he was moved over to raw. Yet all 3 of those developed a character of their own. with TIME.

And thats what Joe Hennig needs. Judgeing someones early promo work is never going to hold much weight. Everyone has to start out somewhere, and when they do start out, in front of 10000 people, you dont think nerves kick in? But in time, you will learn to cope with those nerves, and by doing that, you will get better on the mic.

So actually think things through before posting. You said he has potential. So how about giving him a chance to show that potential instead of trashing his work after 7-8 months of being on the main roster.

Well 8 months is a very long time now and people don't care about him... I think that Otunga has a larger fan base than him.
Also Alex Riley rings you a bell? He deserves a push, awesome in the mic, good in the ring and he is in the main roster for 8 months too.

Ziggler was a crap in SQ, Zack Ryder is fighting on Superstars so he didn't went that far, and Sheamus in 1 year accomplished one thing that not even McGillicutty father did, WWE Championship so obvious they saw anything interesting on him.

For him to be anything near a singles champion, he needs to create a whole new character so Michael McGillicutty isn't going far!!
Joe Hennig has 15% of chances.
 
Jesus h mary and joseph are you actually serious!!!

I don't know if its a language thing as it says you're from portugal, but you are not getting what im saying at al.. AT ALL. you dont seem to understand anything and actually replying to you is a waste of a fucking life.

I shall TRY to make this very simple for you

In my first sentence where i wrote

Maybe you should actually learn to read what i say before insinuating im Comparing Hennig to Bret Hart in all aspects.

I am comparing their Mic Skills. NOT anything else. I clearly state that you are insinuating i am comparing ALL aspects of their work. I'm not. Just their mic work. Ok?

He has plenty of time? Big News for you, he is 31 years old he is in pro-wrestling for 4 years... WWE can surprise us, but I think that are by far better
superstars and with more experience than him on the roster to have a push.
McGillicutty is bland, he is getting old so he should think about evolving to amuse your great love for him.

Yes hes 31....what's your point? Batista was 2 years older than Mcguillicutty is when he debuted...Age doesn't matter.

And yes he's been in pro-wrestling for 4 years, and thats your opinion, but getting old? 31 is old now?

I guess Kurt Angle who debuted in WWF in 1999 when he was 31 was too old. Batista who debuted at 33 was too old. No of course you are right...Mcguillicutty is too old to develop now. May aswell ship him off to the old folks home at 31.

Oh sorry, find me one promo from McGillicutty better than this

How many more times do i have to type this out? I am NOT saying Mcguillicutty is better than Batista on the mic. Im using it as an example. Batista started out in 2002 in the WWE and was rated very poorly. I remember reading a report by Dave Meltzer that stated Ric Flair was personally giving him hints on how to talk on the mic during the Evolution days. That Promo with HHH, Batista and Ric Flair was in early 2005 if i can remember correctly....Batista therefor had 2 and a half years after debuting to hone his skills...Mcguilicutty has had 8 months...

Seriously, do you not understand what im saying?
Im NOT saying he is better on the mic than Batista
i am NOT saying he is better than anybody.
You seem to be trying to say that im saying all this when im not, and you're making yourself look like a total twit. So quit all this bullshit posting videos of this person and that person. Using wrestlers in an example of how they honed and adapted their skills is NOT saying they are better than another.

And Posting Batistas opening match...again. you have lost your mind because i am not talking about impact, wrestling skills, or any of the sort here. its about MIC SKILLS and CHARISMA.

Oh god here Edge looks like a vet if you compare him with the pomos I posted from McGillicutty.

Well heres a comparison....Edge had been able to do promos in front of...half decent sized crowds for 5/6 years before his wwf debut....

Whereas Joe Hennig has only had FCW and WLW, which have vasly smaller crowds than that of some of the old indy shows of the 90s.

However you look at it, up until his debut, Edge had 6 years experience to hone his Mic Skills, Mcguillicutty has had 3/4


if you consider it his promo debut, he has like a lot of more potential than McGillicutty combined, so here you have the reason for why Edge was world champion, he showed potential when he was what 22 years old? (i'm to lazy to go check on wiki)

Age doesnt matter! As stated above, people have debuted in wrestling older than 30 and been great on the mic in time. AKA Batsita.

Look you contradicting yourself in the same post

No...i didn't. Maybe you need to look up what contradicting means. In what way did i contradict myself?

What...Joe can carry on the legacy? So that means i think Joe Hennig is better than his father? Shut up son. Just shut up. You have no idea what you're talking about if your coming out with crap like that.

Seriously, Look up the meaning of the word, then come back and point out exactly where i contradicted myself

Joe carrying on the legacy doesnt mean he has to surpass His father. Moron

It is your opinion not mine, best time pro wrestling had his like from the 90's and 2000's in my book, and they always were stuck with superstars.

Thats the time im talking about so well done for making yourself look an idiot once again.

Jim Ross openly stated in interviews that Vince Russo and Ed Ferrera would have meetings with Vince Mcmahon in which they would discuss all the main storylines, then have their own meetings to discuss storyline ideas for EVERY SINGLE undercard wrestler. So almost EVERY SINGLE WRESTLER had a program. Every one had something to rather than just sit there with no storyline beating random jobbers on superstars or doing nothing at all.

stable = tag team... Evolution was a stable and a tag team, so I don't really care about what they call to that.
Why would WWE waste time on DH Smith and McGillicutty?

A Stable is a group of individuals. Not just 2
2 people... are a tag team :O

Why waste time on anyone? Just because you don't rate them, doesnt mean no one else does.

If he adapts their fathers gimmick, believe me they will be a 2.0 version...
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

I haven't said once that Joe should adopt his Faters "Perfection" Gimmick. You are ONCE AGAIN putting words in my mouth.

Why do you think that Michael can carry with his father work? I can't not even a bit...

Thats because you are narrow minded. If i sat down with a team, i could find something for every wrestler in the WWE to do, give or take a few. Whether its on Raw, SD, Superstars or NXT. Whether its a big storyline or small. It'd still be building stars and getting them TV time.

Joe Hennig already is continuing his fathers and his grandfaters legacy in his work....He is a professional wrestler. He may not ever be as good as his dad, or he may suprass him. Who knows. But hes in the same line of work, therefor is continuing the legacy.

Well 8 months is a very long time now and people don't care about him... I think that Otunga has a larger fan base than him.
Also Alex Riley rings you a bell? He deserves a push, awesome in the mic, good in the ring and he is in the main roster for 8 months too.

Once again, this is why impatient people like you annoy me. You expect everything so quickly. You want everyone to be a star now

I am going to list other WWE wrestlers that wern't instant successes. But all are pretty decent now

Drew Mcintyre - 8 months into his WWE career he was floundering and was sent back to development, Now hes a former IC champion and supposadly future star. No one cared about him, but hes well known now

Dolph Ziggler - 8 months into his debut, he was chavo guerreros companion, had no personality, nothing going for him. where is he now? Future star of Raw, Former IC, tag and current US champion

Evan Bourne - 8 months into his debut, he was floundering and jobbing, paying his dues like every wrestler should. Now he's getting pushed in the midcard of Raw, with a decent storyline

John Morrison - 8 months into his debut, he was floundering, nobody cared about him, yet 6/7 years later, and hes in the uppercard of Raw, and many say he will be a WWE champion this year or next

Cody Rhodes - 8 months into his career, he was tagging with Hardcore Holly, going nowhere, had no character, bland mic skills, and yet he got given the ball in his court, and he ran with it, and is now a major star on smackdown

Ezekiel Jackson - 8 months into his career he was a sidekick to Brian Kendrick with nothing going for him. Now hes the IC champion

and the Biggest and best Example of how it takes people time to make themselves stars

The Miz - No one cared about him for years after TE in 2004, it took him years to get a character that anybody cared about.

So do you see whst im saying? Every single one of those that i listed above took longer than 8 months to get into their groove and find their feet. Saying 8 months is a long time when Mcguillicutty hasnt had half the TV time of those above had in 8 months is a fucking joke. So as i said, how about you wait and see what he has in store this year and next, and if by 2013 he is still in the same spot hes in now, assuming he doesnt get injured, fired, leaves or any other hinderance, then you can be as smug as you like.

And this is the biggest joke of all, and proves to everyone you have no idea what you are talking about
Ziggler was a crap in SQ, Zack Ryder is fighting on Superstars so he didn't went that far, and Sheamus in 1 year accomplished one thing that not even McGillicutty father did, WWE Championship so obvious they saw anything interesting on him.

You compare Sheamus' push to that of Mr Perfects...yeah...you do know its all pre determined right?
Sheamus was pushed too fast and too soon, you cannot compare him to Mr Perfect or anyone from that generation.

Wrestlers from the 80s and early 90s had to bust their guys just to get a job in the WWF. they had to work much harder than they do nowdays.

If Mr Perfect was around today, as a 25 year old, he would be a future star of the company.

If Sheamus was 25 back in 1990, he would be stacking chairs and lacing Mr Perfects boots for years before he even had the chance to be a jobber.

So shut up with your utter nonsense
 
i think the best thing for McGuillicutty would be after they lose the tag team titles as the new nexus would be to have his LAST name changed. WWE can trademark and keep the Michael name and call him either Michael Perfect (to show who is dad is) or Michael Henning. Now what to do with him, personally, what i would do is team him up with Ted Dibiase on Smackdown and then try to rebuild two careers in one stone, Dibiase is talented on the mic, but he needs a gimmick and a push, i like his potential and if you dont want him leaving raw, then bring Brett Dibiase to the main roster and have Brett Dibiase and Henning team up. they need to give Henning a gimmick and work with him on his mic skills. i think he can be good with relating to the fans, but the fans dont care about the new Nexus because they are made to look like jobbers, including David Otunga and i dont think Otunga should ever when the IC title unless his in ring skills improve. he is dull in the ring, Henning can wreslte, he just needs a new finisher.
 
You said that a bland guy has charisma, so what can I think of guys like Christian? or Miz? Ultra - Charismatic that should be I don't know fucking running for president or whatever.
I will give you the definition of charisma:

He doesnt have an amazing amount of charisma, but he does have that, He can get a crowd going. Watch some of his FCW stuff. Because an audience that couldnt care less about NXT before smackdown doesnt react to him, doesnt mean he doesnt have any.

They did react much to Alex Riley in that season when on the mic...double standards

You seem to be getting Mic skills and Charisma mixed up. Read your own Definiton. You dont need to have huge charisma to have good mic skills, likewise, you dont need good mic skills to have good charisma.

Oh I'm sorry this is the definition of Michael McGillicutty... You asshole, you don't know what you are talking about...
I'm sorry boy, but you are the one that is like trying to defend something with your own ass, without a reliable point...
Batista had a push because he was a beast and he hasn't awful in the mic section, for the Evolution Era...
Kurt Angle was already one of the best wrestlers of his generation you stupid kid
What the Hell?

Why are you bringing up and defending Angle and Batista. I only used them for a comparison. You seem to think im insulting them or something...

as were going down the dictionary route
Heres what Legacy means
Something handed down from an ancestor or a predecessor or from the past

His wrestling talent is handed down for him to continue, like it has been with every 2nd or 3rd generation wrestler. It does not mean their fathers work rate or ethic.

If my father was in the masonary business, and he taught me the ins and outs, and i also became involed, then thats part of the legacy of the family

Just like Larry Hennig was a wrestler, his son Curt continued the Hennig family Legacy, and as such, Joe is now continuing the Legacy.

Can you actually feel what you are saying?
That makes no sense.

Just another notes:
When Miz debuted he was better in the microphone that half of the roster...
Evan Bourne is known from ROH, he even won a award of best highflyer.
Cody Rhodes is actually a little bit look a like to McGillicutty, but at least people noticed him when he was in the ring, when McGillicutty is in the ring, usually people care about Otunga, Ryan or CM Punk instead of him, and even Kozlov his more charismatic than Joe...

Once again, i used those as a comparison, you have changed it thinking i've said something that i haven't

Go and Watch Miz debut as the Host of Raw and Smackdown. Go and watch him fuck up 3/4 of his lines...yeah, he was better than half the roster alright.

I LOVE SMARKS!!
How do you know that 80's wrestlers had to work harden than now?
I never seen anyone say that, so please just kill yourself your fucking smark...

Wow...real mature telling someone to kill themselves. And because my family is involved with wrestling. In the UK. thats how i know. I'm not a wrestler myself, nor have i ever tried, but my family has ties to the UK wrestling industry. Many of the past WWF superstars worked where my family did. Namely William Regal, Fit Finlay, The Hart Family, Tom Billington and Davey Boy Smith to name a few.

If Sheamus was 25 in 1990 he was to futuristic in his looks for the 90's, so it is impossible to compare the new wrestlers in past eras, you asshole.
If sheamus was 25 in 1990, then he'd of been born in 1965...so i think his style might be a bit different now

Mr.Perfect would be big nowadays? Do you realise that we have CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Sin Cara, Evan Bourne and John Morrison as good wrestlers right?

Have you ever watched Mr Perfect? He had the full Package. Fantastic in the ring, Fantastic on the mic, had a superstar look, Could tell a story in the ring. He had it ALL

Punk's size is smaller to Perfects
Daniel Bryan is half the size of Perfect
Cara is a Lucha Libra style wrestler, Perfect was a technician
Evan Bourne and John Morrison again are High Flyers, again, different style.

None of them could match Perfects ability to tell a story in the ring
Only Punk can match Perfects Mic skills
None of the above has the superstar look of Mr Perfect

Thats why Mr Perfect would be huge nowadays. Because he had it all. Unlike those mentioned above who only have certain aspects of what Perfect had.

Fucking smark, so you were backstage and a really good friend of Bret Hart to know that they busted their asses more than now...

Family worked in the wrestling industry, 2 of them at least met Bret Hart and his brothers. Can't say if they ever became friends. :)

Kozlov, Truth, Gabriel, heck Santino, Ted DiBiase, Evan Bourne, Swagger, heck Otunga, Wade Barrett, Drew McIntyre, Tyson Kidd for Christ sake has more chances to be world champion than McGillicutty.

Kozlov - lol
Santino - Comedy characters rarely win world titles
Bourne - spot monkeys rarely win world titles
Kidd - he has even less presence than Hennig

Barrett, Mcintyre, Swagger and Dibiase are the only odds on favourites to win the World Title out of the list you gave, and all have more experience on the main roster than Hennig does. Notice a theme here?:lol:

You can't tell the future. 7 years ago, no one could of predicted The Miz would be a world champion...
 
i think the best thing for McGuillicutty would be after they lose the tag team titles as the new nexus would be to have his LAST name changed. WWE can trademark and keep the Michael name and call him either Michael Perfect (to show who is dad is) or Michael Henning. Now what to do with him, personally, what i would do is team him up with Ted Dibiase on Smackdown and then try to rebuild two careers in one stone, Dibiase is talented on the mic, but he needs a gimmick and a push, i like his potential and if you dont want him leaving raw, then bring Brett Dibiase to the main roster and have Brett Dibiase and Henning team up. they need to give Henning a gimmick and work with him on his mic skills. i think he can be good with relating to the fans, but the fans dont care about the new Nexus because they are made to look like jobbers, including David Otunga and i dont think Otunga should ever when the IC title unless his in ring skills improve. he is dull in the ring, Henning can wreslte, he just needs a new finisher.


I agree with a lot of what you said. The Ted Dibiase idea would be good, but He seems to be going into a program with Rhodes, and the reports say he'll turn face against him.

The Brett Dibiase idea is good though, i forgot about him.

I would actually like to see that "Fortunate sons" idea in action, either as a stable or a tag team. I mean theres Hennig, Richie Steamboat in fcw, Brett Dibiase, Huskey Harris (also needs a name change) and one or two other 2nd and 3rd generation stars that could be brought in.

The nexus had so much promise but as you said, they are now just weak. Even Mason Ryan looks weak, which is a shame, because when he debuted, it was a solid, commanding debut and garnered interest for a bit.
 
I agree with a lot of what you said. The Ted Dibiase idea would be good, but He seems to be going into a program with Rhodes, and the reports say he'll turn face against him.
here's hoping. i like Dibiase and think he needs a character boost, maybe as a face he will be great.
The Brett Dibiase idea is good though, i forgot about him. I would actually like to see that "Fortunate sons" idea in action, either as a stable or a tag team. I mean theres Hennig, Richie Steamboat in fcw, Brett Dibiase, Huskey Harris (also needs a name change) and one or two other 2nd and 3rd generation stars that could be brought in.
i dont like the idea of adding Rickie Steamboat to the group though or Husky Harris (who needs a name change). Personally, if it is a stable then have it be 3 guys. Michael Henning (THAT is the name i would use for him), Brett Dibiase (if you want to change his first name, go ahead), and then add TAYLOR Rotunda to the group. and if you want to change his first name, go ahead. for those who dont know, Taylor Rotunda is Husky Harris' brother. he looks more like his father, so i think it would be best for him to team up with Brett Dibiase and Henning (if WWE wants to make this a stable).
 
I like some of those ideas actually. I haven't actually seen Steamboat yet. I thought Hennig and Harris played well off each other in some of their tag matches,

At the very least, id like to see a tag team in the group. Whether thats the Rotunda brothers or one of them and Brett Dibiase. Taylor is looking quite promising though from the few bits ive seen.

As for Ted Dibiase, i'll always hope. I think we both agree that he is a really good talent that has been under utilized the past year or so. A face change would be refreshing, and interesting as we've only seen him as a heel on tv so far.
 
yeah i agree. i think a face change could jump start his career, i like Ted Dibiase and feel that if he had a better gimmick that he could be great.
 
ok i really dont think that michael or mr z list otunga are gonna be around in the wwe much longer after the new nexus splits. michael isnt overly entertaining in the ring, he is truly awful on the mic, and he has no charisma. just because his older family members were good, doesnt mean that michael is good, life just doesnt work that way. honestly i hope michael just kinda disappears after him and otunga drop the titles to another tag team.
 
First of all i think the "McGillicutty" thing was a tribute to his mom, whos maiden name was such. Second, the Michael part is just so the name has a ring to it, MM, it writes itself.

Now on to the real questions... McGillicutty is great but I'd involve him in some more tag teams. I think the guy would be great with Evan Bourne, Zack Ryder, or Drew McIntyre. I dont want to rush him into the US title picture so that when he gets it the win actually feels like a milestone. I know people dont like The Miz but when he got the US title we knew that WWE was serious about pushing him. I want the same thing to happen to Michael. He could work as a solid US champ for about 3 to 4 months before he has his title somehow stolen away from him by a former tag partner (who can see Zack Ryder doing this?) and therefore move on to the WWE title division. Throw him into a Fatal Four Way, even though he wont win on his first try it'll solidify his status as a main eventer. Let maybe a couple more months pass and have him win the MITB. Then he can cash in at some big pay per view like Summerslam. Think about what a stellar career that would be? And hes just started.
 
What is next for Michael after Nexus, hopefully I would say they fire him.

This guy is honestly a waste of space once he is not affiliated with any group. He is not good on the Mic at all and his ring work is just ok. I think he does not have what it takes to get over and in all honesty needs a totally new gimmick if he is going to stay. He does not convince me that he is a heel at all when he speaks nor does he entertain me as a heel when he wrestles. I hope once Nexus splits they fire him because in all honestly I don't want him taking up T.V time that could be used for other up and coming superstars. He for me is too stale and I would either repackage him or straight up fire him. I think I would actually like him if he were a face, who used a bit of comedy and had funny matches like Santino. I mean with a name like McGillicuty you just sound stupid.
 
that will never happen. He is doomed to be on superstars. This guy is decent in ring but with 0 charisma and no mic skills its dead mans road right there.
 

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