Matt Hardy to fill JBL's void?

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Anyone who's watched raw would have seen that Matt has been drafted to raw and his fued with Jeff cut a little short, but many of the people on this forum seem to be selling him a little short on the impact that he could potentially have on raw. He's starting to really get into his character as a heel, watching him after he got drafted he acted like such a jackass that this stuff plus all the shit from the jeff fued is starting to get him some good heel heat.

I see Matt on raw potentially moving into the void left by the departure of JBL, and i don't mean in terms of skills because Matt is probably a better wrestler than JBL. With JBL gone there is a gap in the "main event" of raw in addition to the recent departure of Chris Jericho, so if Matt can prove himself after this recent fued and continue to get some decent heat, and be put into a decent feud with an over Main-event face like a Cena or someone like that, he could do well and possibly get a WWE or WHC reign, if only as a transitional champion, which for Matt would be a good starting place for him.

So what are your opinions on this situation and who else could possible fill the void left by Jericho and Jiggly Boobs? Do you think this is Matt's make or break point or his burial ground?
 
Void? What Void? As far as Im concerned JBL was just a fat tub of lard wasting time on RAW, Matt Hardy will always be better then JBL was(except for the fact hes never held a world title) Matt Hardy is not better then Jericho but Jericho was mixed in with the Batistas, The Ortons, and the Cenas of RAW, so there is not much of a void there, If anything Matt Hardy will be better then JBL and better then Jericho has been in the past years and a half
 
Void? What Void? As far as Im concerned JBL was just a fat tub of lard wasting time on RAW, Matt Hardy will always be better then JBL was(except for the fact hes never held a world title) Matt Hardy is not better then Jericho but Jericho was mixed in with the Batistas, The Ortons, and the Cenas of RAW, so there is not much of a void there, If anything Matt Hardy will be better then JBL and better then Jericho has been in the past years and a half

The Void in the Main Event, lets see, in the last 12 months, JBL was on most of the PPV cards. He challenged Cena at RR09, Punk at least one PPV, Fatal Fourway at Backlash 08 and a few more i can't remember off the top of my head. He may have been like Kane, a jobber to the stars but he was still the 2nd or third best heel on raw for the last year, allowing for Randy's injury. So there is a void to fill. There is also a void left by Jericho who was the second best and the no 1 heel on raw when orton was injured, he had feud with Cena, with HBK, he also had matches against Punk and Batista, who are all the top faces on the Raw brand, so currently for heels on raw, there is Orton, then the next guys are The Big Show, who'll prob turn in a month or two, Mike Knox, and Cody and Ted, none of which are really main event heel material. So there is a void for Matt, or Knox or even the Miz to fill, that of a main event heel for the title scene or just for your main event upper midcard faces to feud with
 
Personally, I don't think Matt wants to fill JBL's anything. The man wasn't well liked in the WWE locker room, his gimmick was getting old, and he wasn't near the caliber of performer Matt could be.

Matt Hardy would fill JERICHO'S void. Talk about a flat out smug heel. Jericho makes me want to puke! That's the point, right? Hardy needs to get to a point to where people want to see him get his ass kicked. He'll get there. He just needs to work with the right people.
 
Well to tell you truth, I thought Matt would feud with Rey Mysterio or CM Punk for the IC title or briefcase, but they both moved to SD, so I don't really know what they want to do with Matt Hardy. Personally, I don't think he's ready to feud with the likes of Cena or HHH yet, but I do agree that he could make an impact on Raw. As for filling the void of JBL and Jericho, HHH really did that. Having Cena and HHH on the same show as the top contendors and champions can fix all that easily. Plus, they still have Batista and Randy Orton, who are both main event faces and heels...
 
Void?

Guess I must have been dreaming when I saw Triple H and the Big Show to go to Raw...

Well the problem with that statement is that HHH is a main event FACE, you know the good guy that you cheer, and although he may turn and become heel at some point he isn't at the moment. I covered Big Show earlier by saying they never really use him anyway and he's due for another turn because they can't seem to keep him heel or face for more than 6 months without him having another turn.

Even if you count Big Show thats one gap being filled, Jericho's or JBL, they still need to have another main event level heel that they put into feud as to not bore people to death with seeing the same 3 or 4 people feud.
 
I get what you're saying as in not replacing JBL but being a top heel as they just lost 2 top ones and only got one in Big Show. Matt could very well fued with MVP again except this time he's the heel and MVP's the face. Also he could fued with Kofi or someone that is also getting a bit of a push. He needs to work a little longer before main eventing against Batista Cena or HHH. But he is really getting into his character now with the new tights and cockiness. He needs new music though, fuck its old.
 
I think we are going to end up seeing another MVP/Hardy feud over the US title, just this time they are in role reversal regarding heel/face. After that I can see Matt moving up into the ME area as a top heel behind Orton. This is definitely an opportunity for him to show his stuff and see if he can truly be a big time player.
 
hell yea. I think fillin jerichos void would be betta and easier to do then makin matt hardy out to be sum multi millionaire or sum1 with corportae power or anything like that. But i dont care whose void it is i just wanna see matt hardy the net new WWE/WHC Champion
 
There is a decent void to fill on Raw. Jericho is gone. JBL is gone. and Kane is gone. Now Big Show replaces some of this. But Matt Hardy is definitely going to fill some of that void. However, he is going to fill a massively different void than all three.

Kane: Kane got by on scary. If anybody thinks Matt Hardy is scary.......yea.
JBL: JBL wasn't that good but he did help push anybody he faced (the enemy of JBL was the Fan's Friend). But JBL got by on a feeling that he was as he put it: "A Wrestling God". Matt Hardy isn't that godly enough yet.
Jericho: Jericho was hated because he was a smug jackass. He thought he was the shit and acted like it. But here's the difference between Jericho and Matt Hardy currently. Jericho has proven he's the shit. He's been a WWE Champion. He's accomplished many things. He's had a feud of the year with HBK. No offense to Matt Hardy, but ECW Title and Wrestlemania singles victory don't put him in Jericho's league in terms of achievements.

I think Matt Hardy has one chance to succeed. He needs to pick up the ball. He needs to hit the ground running. And he has to win a Heavyweight Championship by Summerslam. Why? Does anybody view Matt Hardy as intimidating? No. He's gonna be a smart, calculating, cocky heel. And those heels do best when they have some history to back it up. Matt Hardy is lacking that right now.
 
i think matt hardy moving to raw was a very good idea. he has the potential to be a really good heel. he already has the fan heat because of his wins over jeff, but in general, m. hardy has always been a good heel. he has something about him that makes you just want to slap him silly! i mean that in a good way...

the way he came out when he was revealed as the next draft pick..just starting to taunt the champ, i found that to be really arrogant, thus feeding into his heel persona. can he be the next jbl when it comes to heat...i certainly think so.

hopefully creative doenst destory matt's heat like they've done so many times. he has the potential and the heat to be a great heel...but creative always finds a way to extinguish those fires really fast.
 
maybe....i see the miz actually being better sad to say....i mean wow he wears trunks...like someone else said he needs new music....and a new hair stlye maybe shave that lil beard cause everytime i see him i think welll there's the boring hardy....i hope jeff comes out soon...i know someone will say omg how can u say that...but its my opionon...i never liked him in the hardys either.
 
JBL leaving wasn't as big of a loss as one would make it seem, because his impact as a wrestler after returning from the announcing table wasn't as impressive as Jericho returning or the Undertaker at Wrestlemania XX. They tried making him seem big by having him do this feud with Shawn, and his short title feud with Cena but he clearly wasn't a strong main eventer anymore.

As far as Matt Hardy is concerned right now its all about how they develop his character, if they let him be a strong heel he's going to be a real main eventer like Jeff is, or how Edge broke out after being a tag team, otherwise he is destined for Mid-Card status
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I do think that their is a big void left in the heel column period. It is Matt's time to rise that's why I think he beat Jeff twice.But I do believe that the next big heel will be Batista.
 
Matt Hardy has great in-ring ability and the potential to draw some serious heat; However, (and I know this is going to cause some backlash) Jeff is holding his brother back. Matt Hardy gets it, plain and simple. He knows what it means to be a professional and has shown progress consistently since the day he stepped in the ring. Jeff has unbelievable potential, but how in the world are you going to trust that man to hold a world title? I'm not here to hate, but I do feel it's unbelievable that my first post (ever) is going to be on the Hardys... who I have considered overrated since day one.
 
hehe As soon as I saw Matt at WM25, my first reaction was "Oh he's pretending to be the guy that banged his girlfriend then, yeah?"

But Matt has grown into the character (and reminded me of why I liked Matt Hardy V1 so much) and is getting some real heat.

While he will NEVER be up to Jericho's standards in mic ability, he is decent in the ring, and could very well be a good upper-mid heel. Personally, if they continue to bring ECW wrestlers to Raw during tapings and whatnot, I'd love a Matt Hardy/Evan Bourne feud. They had a match at Cyber Slam in '08 and it ruled (and was the first time Bourne missed a shooting star).
 
Matt Hardy needs a nickname and a new heel theme. Right now, he's just "Matt Hardy".

He better find one to attach to his name, before Triple H steals another one. I'm trying the think of a good one for Matt Hardy but it's tough. I guess as a face he was known as "the guy who won't die", or "the man who wouldn't die" and I don't think that would work well with a heel.

Anybody have any ideas? Something along the lines of "The Up and Coming" or "The Emergence". Damn, this creative writing stuff is tough.
 
Quick side note on this: Matt Hardy has physically let himself get fat. And his hairline is getting Hogan-esk.

But to turn up the heel factor, you want people think differently of you, change the look. Hardy has more of less been the same for the last 12 years. Cut the hair, grow a different beard. I like that he is wearing wrestling tights. Go against the perception of the people watching.

Psychologically humans are uncomfotable with change, and have an advert reaction to it. It was done to perfection with hogan's heel turn. People saw him act and talk differently and said "i don't know who this Hulk is, I don't like this."

My point it, get a haircut and fully dive into a heel persona
 
Don't think that the WWE is dont making roster changes.

If you don't think that Edge will somehow make his way to Raw, then you aren't paying attention. His entire storyline is on that brand! Right there, you have Jerico or JBL accounted for...

And when exactly does Cody Rhodes or Ted DiBiase begin his ascent? I agree that Hardy is being re-packaged for Raw ... but I don't think we'll see him main-eventing. I just don't see him getting any further than the top of the mid-card.

I think we're more likely to see DiBiase be given a chance to climb the ladder - maybe having a program with Batista.
 
I'd like to see Matt in a long term feud vs. an exercise bike and a bag of rice cakes..I totaly agree with the above poster that Matt is upper midcard status at best. With the economy the way it is, the WWE needs to come up with new main events and fast. I'm not willing to give away my hard earned $40 to see Matt Hardy vs Cena, or vs. HHH, or vs. Edge, or basically vs anybody. Could you imagine WM26: Matt Hardy vs HBK in Michael's last match?? No. Or Matt Hardy saying he's going to end Undertaker's streak at WM?? No...With Matt getting older and putting on weight, they could keep his attitude and slowly change him into a Mankind type of wrestler: less high flying, more brawling, baggy clothing so he doesn't look like a sausage ready to burst out of his skin..Jeff is exciting to watch, but Matt just isn't IMO
 
First off I want to say that JBL retiring is probably the best thing I've seen on WWE TV in years. I can't stand him and don't find him entertaining at all. I think he was a waste of space and really anyone taking his spot is better. Plus RAW got Batista back, so that's an extra main event guy (even if he's not a heel...yet).

Now with that said, I don't really see Matt Hardy moving that high up let alone filling a main event role. I don't hate Matt Hardy. I think he's a fine wrestler and he's decent on the mic. The problem that I have with him is his look. He looks like a redneck who got dressed to go to the gym. Really think about it, with his mullet, chinstrap beard, sleeveless tees, and workout pants. Can you honestly say that you like Matts look? I don't know what to suggest as an improvement but he need a new look.

Also, I by no means think Matt is fat, but his head looks enormous.
 
Matt Hardy has great in-ring ability and the potential to draw some serious heat; However, (and I know this is going to cause some backlash) Jeff is holding his brother back. Matt Hardy gets it, plain and simple. He knows what it means to be a professional and has shown progress consistently since the day he stepped in the ring. Jeff has unbelievable potential, but how in the world are you going to trust that man to hold a world title? I'm not here to hate, but I do feel it's unbelievable that my first post (ever) is going to be on the Hardys... who I have considered overrated since day one.

This is cool and since its your first time i'll just give you the heads up that you need to stay a little more on topic. But to answer your question Jeff isn't holding Matt back, what one brother does won't affect the other, and Matt's inability to get over was what held him back as a face, and partially cause creative didn't leave him much to work with.

hehe As soon as I saw Matt at WM25, my first reaction was "Oh he's pretending to be the guy that banged his girlfriend then, yeah?"

But Matt has grown into the character (and reminded me of why I liked Matt Hardy V1 so much) and is getting some real heat.

While he will NEVER be up to Jericho's standards in mic ability, he is decent in the ring, and could very well be a good upper-mid heel. Personally, if they continue to bring ECW wrestlers to Raw during tapings and whatnot, I'd love a Matt Hardy/Evan Bourne feud. They had a match at Cyber Slam in '08 and it ruled (and was the first time Bourne missed a shooting star).

The first part is off topic, and while i see your point your really don't give anyone who will be pushed in his place, he's not supposed to be Jericho, he's supposed to fill the empty place on the roster left by the retirement of JBL and the transfer of Jericho to Smackdown!, which given the chance he most likely will.

Matt Hardy needs a nickname and a new heel theme. Right now, he's just "Matt Hardy".

Not really, while a new theme would help him somewhat, maybe just slowing his current one down and making it heavier could be enough. I think his mannerism and his action and promos make him a heel, not a nickname.

Quick side note on this: Matt Hardy has physically let himself get fat. And his hairline is getting Hogan-esk.

But to turn up the heel factor, you want people think differently of you, change the look. Hardy has more of less been the same for the last 12 years. Cut the hair, grow a different beard. I like that he is wearing wrestling tights.

Yeah the first part is completely off topic so save it for another thread please. He really doesn't need to that much, name me as many faces that have turned heel that completely changed their attire as you can, and although him changing his look a little to distance from his hardyz days, it will be his actions in the ring that will determine if he fills that main event/upper midcard heel gap.

Don't think that the WWE is dont making roster changes.

If you don't think that Edge will somehow make his way to Raw, then you aren't paying attention. His entire storyline is on that brand!

Yeah but that feud is ending and i think through the affair its becoming pretty obvious that vickie and big show are the power couple and Edge has moved past them both and no longer needs either. and if they were gonna make that change they probably would have done it in the draft.

And when exactly does Cody Rhodes or Ted DiBiase begin his ascent?

Not for a while, they need to stay in legacy for a substantial amount of time to get the "evolution" rub that randy is trying to give them, putting them on their own at the moment would just bury them.

I'd like to see Matt in a long term feud vs. an exercise bike and a bag of rice cakes

And that matters what with his ability as a Wrestler to be a main event upper midcard heel? Don't tell me it has an effect cause i could list off so many people who were like that were fatter that Matt Hardy supposedly is at the moment, i'll only put one out- JBL.

I'm not willing to give away my hard earned $40 to see Matt Hardy vs Cena, or vs. HHH, or vs. Edge, or basically vs anybody.

Well thats good for you but i'm sure there are many people who would, and he wouldn't be against edge, they already did that, and they don't often do heel vs heel fueds. Cena who is a great worker and brawler, would work very well with matt's style and they could have a great fued with cena talking about how matt has loss respect from himself and matt saying how cena is nothing and how matt hardy will beat him.

Could you imagine WM26: Matt Hardy vs HBK in Michael's last match??

That could be a great match, Matt being a cocky arrogant prick who it is really easy to hate versus HBK, the icon, the main event, the Showstopper. Matt's style could easily work with HBK, and with them both being good workers trying to give a good show, it would be an impressive match
 
So the question is, will Matt Hardy fill the void left by JBL? Well, I'll have to say maybe. He is on the right path right now, as he is quickly gaining weight and becoming very odd looking in the ring, just like JBL. Matt isn't as overated as JBL, but he could quickly become that way if he doesn't do something to change. I have to agree with alot of people in this thread already and say that Matt needs a overhaul of his look. Change the hair and the beard, maybe grow it in full like the way Edge had it when he came back at Survivor Series, that kind of beard. Something a little more menacing. JBL's spot isn't a hard one to fill, and he could easily have a much better impact on RAW than "The Wrestling God" if he does change up the look a little and start to be a very arrogant, egotistical, and methodical heel. He has the chance, it's really sink or swim all on his shoulders.
 
I'm sorry, but Matt Hardy is not up to feelings JBL's rather large boots. For one thing, Bradshaw could actually cut a promo. In fact, he was one of the top 5 men on the mic in the entire WWE. That meant he could get over in about 5 seconds flat and have highly entertaining and dramatic feuds, even if the in-ring action never quite matched up with the promos. He could work, too, even when older - when he put his mind to it.

Matt Hardy, on the other hand, cannot cut a promo to save his life, and personally I find him no more entertaining in the ring than JBL, gimmick matches excepted. I predict he will lose his heat: he's only over now because he's feuding with his wildly popular younger brother, but they can't feud forever, and the only other time in his career was genuinely, main-event-level over was when Edge fucked his girlfriend. JBL, however, could get heat feuding with Jamie Noble.
 
Matt Hardy doesn't get enough credit for his mic work, People are still judging him from his "Vaaaa onaaaaaa" day's, And i'm sick of it. If he hasn't proved over the last three month's he is good on the mic you shouldn't be judging him, Because you don't know a damn thing. Matt's promo's made ME want to kick his ass, And I love the guy.

With Matt's recent showing's, I think he will rise the at LEAST the upper-mid card, If he's not already there. He is showing that he can reach his potential, And become a better all round performer than his over achiving brother.
 

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