Mark Madden Wants Austin Aries Fired
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This is simply kayfab being blown out of proportion by some washed up hack late 90s commentator Austin Aries character is a rude crude and in your face heel and Christie really was offended Dixie would've said something or she would have quit as for Madden hypocritical that he is he upset about this but never said nothing about the shit that happened in both WCW and the WWF during the late 90s.
You were and still are defensive about this entire thing. You called me a "typical tna mark" simply because I defended Aries over Hemme, which is an evident pattern in your replies to me. There has not been one reply in which you didn't term me a "tna mark" in one form or another. People are making a huge deal out of something that quite frankly isn't. And it has nothing to do with being a "top tna guy" as you put it. That shows your bias and hatred of TNA and not my blind marking. The problem with 'net fans are that they'll mistakenly and illogical label people just because of a simple difference in opinion. You are the epitome of that and I am sometimes ashamed to be a wrestling fan simply because the majority of us fans are illogical and idiotic in nature. You cannot be reasoned with or even told simple viewpoints that conflict with your own without it degenerating into name calling or labeling. Grow up!
In my view, there's righteous disrespect and there's unprovoked disrespect. Mark Madden is getting my righteous disrespect because he provoked it with his moronic blogs and comments on this situation. The ironic part is you claim I'm a "hypocrite" and throw that term around quite often in this thread. However, you have done nothing but disrespect my view the whole time in every reply to me. What do they call that again? Oh yeah, it's your favorite word to throw around; HYPOCRITE! Nice!
In what world is sexual harassment worse than being a drugged performer? Like I said, Aries putting his junk on Hemme directly would be sexual harassment[which he didn't touch her, btw]. Aries slapping Hemme's ass would sexual harassment. What Aries did would be more in the bullying camp than sexual harassment based on what he actually did. Was it wrong? Sure. This is the same company that has no wellness policy or any kind of structure. He should be punished, but if Hardy wasn't it's a double standard. Which was my earlier point that you clearly overlooked or were too busy acting like a 5 year old kid to notice.
Yes and that entire response sums up my whole point in this topic: You are the typical immature and illogical wrestling fan. There's a difference between name calling and debating, which you might want to learn how to do.
You pretty much started out with it's all Aries' fault and then changed it to it is someone else's fault for Hemme's screwup? Classic net fan logic. Which is faulty or no logic. Hemme was responsible for her own actions. At least what Aries did was all him. People might not like it, but who are we fans to judge him? Wrestling itself is a very immature and irrational business and Aries is just doing what has always been tradition. He was wronged and he did what he thought was appropriate in responding. Austin Aries is a normal person prone to outbursts of anger like any normal person. People have too much obsession with celebrity today. This is an issue for Impact, Christy Hemme, and Austin Aries to settle. Ultimately, it will be up to them to rectify this situation and us fans will have no influence over what happens. Acting like a child and throwing a temper tantrum will not change anything whether you agree with Aries or not.
What would you do if your wife is at work makes a mistake and a co-worker stands on a chair and shoves his crotch in her face ?
You would not be happy. You would sue and he would get the sack. If what AA did was not scripted he should be treated the same. You might not like it but the law applies to TNA as well.
You would not be happy. You would sue and he would get the sack. If what AA did was not scripted he should be treated the same. You might not like it but the law applies to TNA as well.
Well, I was up for a fine and suspension, but after hearing his replies and how he still hasn't said he is sorry or how he isn't even taking his actions seriously- I say fire his ass. Any of you defending behavior like this are clearly either virgins, marks or have never had a conversation with a female (that you weren't related to) in your life.
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What? How do you know he hasn't apologised? You honestly think Aries should be fired for what he did?
For all those saying that Austin was just in character I seem to remember JBL doing the goose step in Germany and getting sacked from his job as a financial analyst from Fox for his actions. He defended it by saying it was done by JBL the character, not JBL the man. Fox replied that they employed JBL the character and, thus, his actions were worth getting fired over. Two very different set of circumstances but the basic thread is that, in character or not, wrestlers can (and should be) held accountable for overstepping lines when they do (such as Jericho and the Brazilian flag)
Fire Double A? Nah, it wasn't nice but there's no need to fire him over it. A backstage chat to clear the air between him and Hemme should be suffice, with an apology on twitter for it and the whole thing would be resolved. Hemme screwed up, Double A screwed up (worse) but it should be dealt with in-house with a little sign off on twitter from Dixie saying TNA doesn't condone this sort of thing.
Fire Double A? Nah, it wasn't nice but there's no need to fire him over it. A backstage chat to clear the air between him and Hemme should be suffice, with an apology on twitter for it and the whole thing would be resolved. Hemme screwed up, Double A screwed up (worse) but it should be dealt with in-house with a little sign off on twitter from Dixie saying TNA doesn't condone this sort of thing.
why on twitter? do you apologize to every one you wrong on twitter? If you do something wrong at work, does you boss post something about you on twitter? Aries and TNA doesnt owe us anything, why would they do a public apology?
I really dont understand why this has become such a big deal. If she was offended by this then it was most likely handled as soon as the show went off the air. Hemme is a pro and im sure she, unlike most of you clueless fans, she understands that he was in character. Not everything is scripted, he made a heel move that was unplanned. It may have been crossing the line, but the point is that Hemme has been in the business long enough to understand that Aries meant no harm by this and it wasn't personal. People stop comparing this to real life situations because it isnt real life, its a damn tv show. Of course if I was at work and stuck my balls in a womens face, I would be fired. But im not a character, im not on tv, im not a bad guy on tv, im not trying to entertain a crowd, I would have no way to justify my actions. I understand both points of views on this....maybe he did take it too far, IMO he didnt, but its not up to me to judge or demand an apology. I didnt have balls in my face, so i dont really care what happens to him. Even if Hemme did sue or something, I doubt she would win.
Actually JBL got fired from CNBC, not Fox News. He currently works for Fox.
If this wasn't part of the show, then Aries at least needs to be suspended. If Hemme did sue, she will win. It wouldn't be her word against Aries word, she would have video tape evidence of the incident that a couple million people saw. Plus if she brings in witnesses that state that it wasn't planned, TNA can be in big time trouble.
Also let's say that she didn't win a lawsuit, although that would be highly unlikely. TNA could still suffer at the end due to protests by groups like NOW and other women's organiations and just the bad publicity. So in this situtation TNA might have to do what's best for TNA. And that might end up being to fire Aries.
If this wasn't part of the show, then Aries at least needs to be suspended. If Hemme did sue, she will win. It wouldn't be her word against Aries word, she would have video tape evidence of the incident that a couple million people saw. Plus if she brings in witnesses that state that it wasn't planned, TNA can be in big time trouble.
Also let's say that she didn't win a lawsuit, although that would be highly unlikely. TNA could still suffer at the end due to protests by groups like NOW and other women's organiations and just the bad publicity. So in this situtation TNA might have to do what's best for TNA. And that might end up being to fire Aries.
Wow. I've always thought some of you were of well below average intelligence, but until today, I never actually thought that some of you are amongst the functionally ******ed. I'm not saying that just to be insulting- until today, I never realized how completely and absolutely divorced from reality some of you people are. At this point, I believe many of you are just one accident with your safety scissors away from having a permanent caretaker assigned to you. Our education systems should focus on getting your dumb asses out of schools and into the coal mines at a very young age, so that you don't infect your brighter peers with your stupidity. (Don't think I'm joking there. Not one bit.)
About the incident itself- a molehill that has become a mountain. However, everyone involved has handled themselves unprofessionally, from TNA, to Aries, to Hemme, to most of you fucking idiots. Madden is probably the only one being professional, because he's at least trying to make a buck out of this. What the bigger story here is the response some of you have had to the incident. So I'm not going to discuss the actual incident itself, but rather how some of you mouthbreathers are responding.
The merits of your idea, instead of being stated outright, will be colored from a DARK RED for an idea that is absolutely, tie-a-plastic-bag-over-your-head-and-help-humanity ******ed, to a friendly GREEN for ideas that are pretty stupid, but at least look like you've tried to rub a couple of brain cells together over.
"If Aries grabbed her ass backstage, pushed her into a corner and forced her to suck his dick, then you have a case."
Zeven, you've outdone yourself. Every once in a rare while, something falls out of your mouth by accident that sounds like it might have been formed intelligently. This statement is proof positive that those incidents are complete accidents. What you have described is a rape. I'd like to think that you were just trying to come up with a graphic sexual image in order to minimize another sexual incident, but upon reflection that's actually worse, and I'd like to believe that you're just pants-on-face ******ed instead of a nascent rapist of drunken women. Because, you know, if she had screamed, she might have a case, right? That she didn't run immediately screaming out to the police station indicates she was totally cool with it, right?
It was in a professional wrestling ring, and that's how professional wrestling is.
If you used this argument- you are a fucking idiot who is divorced from reality. Professional wrestling happens in the 'real world'. I'm not talking about the world where they shut off kayfaybe and tell you how things really, really are behind the camera- I'm talking about the real world of workers' rights, lawyers, and plenty of other stuff that would take more than five minutes to think about, and so doesn't get featured in a professional wrestling program.
In the real world, you aren't allowed to stick your face in the crotch of someone who doesn't want to you stick their crotch in your face. If you are operating a company where behavior like that is acceptable, you will end up paying such a large amount in fines that you will be unable to continue operating. What's OK in an Arizona high school gym isn't OK for an internationally-sized company. I'd explain this further, but if you don't get the point here, you're not going to. Of all the rights legislation that's been passed since 1919, I have not seen one single piece of legislation which read "oh yeah, but professional wrestling companies get a pass. Can't have bitches ruining entrances, y'know."
In the real world, people can call lawyers, who will look at what the definition of sexual harassment is by statute, and no one in the courtroom is going to even consider bringing up the idea that 'this is just how things are done in professional wrestling.'
But he was a heel!
A performer is approaching the ring, and a kid reaches out and tugs on his hair. The performer reacts by open-palming the kid across the face, then continues to the ring. OMG, he's being a heel! So it's OK!
*sigh* Playing the part of the bad guy is not free license to do whatever you'd like. Professional wrestling may be acting, but you're still not allowed to rub your crotch in another actor's face unless they've consented to it. Some of you don't seem to understand this concept, so let me boldface it for you before you get your big-boy hairs and start trying to rub your crotch in your classmates' faces- there is NO acceptable reason to rub your crotch in another person's face without their consent. This isn't a negotiable idea; unless your dick is suddenly producing a miracle burn cream, you're just wrong. Don't try to argue the point, you're just going to be more wrong.
What's important here is that Christy Hemme made a mistake, and she got a response for that.
*sigh* Real world on one side, fake professional wrestling world on the other. In the real world, when you make a mistake, your boss will call you on the carpet about it, or if you run your own business, your profit margin goes down. In the fake professional wrestling world, when you make a mistake.... it's still not OK for someone to rub their crotch in another person's face without their consent. You'd normally fall to the 'heel' camp, but you've added in the stupidity of thinking that a sexual assault is a legitimate response to an announcing error, which pushes you into deep red territory.
Christy Hemme should have just kept her mouth shut.
Don't think that 'green' indicates an intelligent idea. It doesn't. The intelligent people here don't need me to color code their ideas by stupidity. (The rest of you don't like it, but you definitely need it.) But for her sake- not for TNA's or professional wrestling or what have you- she probably should have. This won't help her advance her career at all, even though she's in the right to complain.
About sexual harassment- what most of you mouthbreathers don't understand about sexual harassment is that your judgement as to what it is is COMPLETELY irrelevant. You can't answer the question one way or another without being wrong, because 'harassment' is up to the discretion of the individual, and from what a 'reasonable person' would find harassing. ('Reasonable person' is the legal term which is used, which is far less flexible than some of you idiots will think.) If Christy Hemme feels like she was sexually harassed, and there's a video clip of a guy thrusting his crotch in her face, guess what- she was sexually harassed. There is no grey area here. Your opinion on the matter, doesn't matter. Not one bit. My opinion on if Christy Hemme was sexually harassed doesn't matter (although it may be much more well informed than most of yours); what matters is how Christy Hemme interprets it.
Why should she keep quiet then? People don't win stupid amounts of money from sexual harassment cases on a regular basis; those are the crazy examples that you hear about in the news. At best, she'd get a few years pay, and that's one hell of a stretch, making several assumptions along the way. With one other company in your industry- a company that already showed you the door- what are the prospects for further work in the industry when any employer sees you as a potential legal problem?
That's why Christy Hemme shouldn't have ran to the Twitter; not because it's what's done in professional wrestling, but because it probably would have been smarter for her career prospects.
About the incident itself- a molehill that has become a mountain. However, everyone involved has handled themselves unprofessionally, from TNA, to Aries, to Hemme, to most of you fucking idiots. Madden is probably the only one being professional, because he's at least trying to make a buck out of this. What the bigger story here is the response some of you have had to the incident. So I'm not going to discuss the actual incident itself, but rather how some of you mouthbreathers are responding.
The merits of your idea, instead of being stated outright, will be colored from a DARK RED for an idea that is absolutely, tie-a-plastic-bag-over-your-head-and-help-humanity ******ed, to a friendly GREEN for ideas that are pretty stupid, but at least look like you've tried to rub a couple of brain cells together over.
"If Aries grabbed her ass backstage, pushed her into a corner and forced her to suck his dick, then you have a case."
Zeven, you've outdone yourself. Every once in a rare while, something falls out of your mouth by accident that sounds like it might have been formed intelligently. This statement is proof positive that those incidents are complete accidents. What you have described is a rape. I'd like to think that you were just trying to come up with a graphic sexual image in order to minimize another sexual incident, but upon reflection that's actually worse, and I'd like to believe that you're just pants-on-face ******ed instead of a nascent rapist of drunken women. Because, you know, if she had screamed, she might have a case, right? That she didn't run immediately screaming out to the police station indicates she was totally cool with it, right?
It was in a professional wrestling ring, and that's how professional wrestling is.
If you used this argument- you are a fucking idiot who is divorced from reality. Professional wrestling happens in the 'real world'. I'm not talking about the world where they shut off kayfaybe and tell you how things really, really are behind the camera- I'm talking about the real world of workers' rights, lawyers, and plenty of other stuff that would take more than five minutes to think about, and so doesn't get featured in a professional wrestling program.
In the real world, you aren't allowed to stick your face in the crotch of someone who doesn't want to you stick their crotch in your face. If you are operating a company where behavior like that is acceptable, you will end up paying such a large amount in fines that you will be unable to continue operating. What's OK in an Arizona high school gym isn't OK for an internationally-sized company. I'd explain this further, but if you don't get the point here, you're not going to. Of all the rights legislation that's been passed since 1919, I have not seen one single piece of legislation which read "oh yeah, but professional wrestling companies get a pass. Can't have bitches ruining entrances, y'know."
In the real world, people can call lawyers, who will look at what the definition of sexual harassment is by statute, and no one in the courtroom is going to even consider bringing up the idea that 'this is just how things are done in professional wrestling.'
But he was a heel!
A performer is approaching the ring, and a kid reaches out and tugs on his hair. The performer reacts by open-palming the kid across the face, then continues to the ring. OMG, he's being a heel! So it's OK!
*sigh* Playing the part of the bad guy is not free license to do whatever you'd like. Professional wrestling may be acting, but you're still not allowed to rub your crotch in another actor's face unless they've consented to it. Some of you don't seem to understand this concept, so let me boldface it for you before you get your big-boy hairs and start trying to rub your crotch in your classmates' faces- there is NO acceptable reason to rub your crotch in another person's face without their consent. This isn't a negotiable idea; unless your dick is suddenly producing a miracle burn cream, you're just wrong. Don't try to argue the point, you're just going to be more wrong.
What's important here is that Christy Hemme made a mistake, and she got a response for that.
*sigh* Real world on one side, fake professional wrestling world on the other. In the real world, when you make a mistake, your boss will call you on the carpet about it, or if you run your own business, your profit margin goes down. In the fake professional wrestling world, when you make a mistake.... it's still not OK for someone to rub their crotch in another person's face without their consent. You'd normally fall to the 'heel' camp, but you've added in the stupidity of thinking that a sexual assault is a legitimate response to an announcing error, which pushes you into deep red territory.
Christy Hemme should have just kept her mouth shut.
Don't think that 'green' indicates an intelligent idea. It doesn't. The intelligent people here don't need me to color code their ideas by stupidity. (The rest of you don't like it, but you definitely need it.) But for her sake- not for TNA's or professional wrestling or what have you- she probably should have. This won't help her advance her career at all, even though she's in the right to complain.
About sexual harassment- what most of you mouthbreathers don't understand about sexual harassment is that your judgement as to what it is is COMPLETELY irrelevant. You can't answer the question one way or another without being wrong, because 'harassment' is up to the discretion of the individual, and from what a 'reasonable person' would find harassing. ('Reasonable person' is the legal term which is used, which is far less flexible than some of you idiots will think.) If Christy Hemme feels like she was sexually harassed, and there's a video clip of a guy thrusting his crotch in her face, guess what- she was sexually harassed. There is no grey area here. Your opinion on the matter, doesn't matter. Not one bit. My opinion on if Christy Hemme was sexually harassed doesn't matter (although it may be much more well informed than most of yours); what matters is how Christy Hemme interprets it.
Why should she keep quiet then? People don't win stupid amounts of money from sexual harassment cases on a regular basis; those are the crazy examples that you hear about in the news. At best, she'd get a few years pay, and that's one hell of a stretch, making several assumptions along the way. With one other company in your industry- a company that already showed you the door- what are the prospects for further work in the industry when any employer sees you as a potential legal problem?
That's why Christy Hemme shouldn't have ran to the Twitter; not because it's what's done in professional wrestling, but because it probably would have been smarter for her career prospects.
Here's what should have happened here. (I wish I could still edit this into my previous post, but I forgot to add it and it's an important point.)
Christy Hemme feels uncomfortable, so she goes to either Aries to discuss it, or management if she feels uncomfortable with that. Management informs Aries that he can't be doing things like that. Aries apologizes to Hemme. We hear nothing, but the complaint is handled professionally. Obviously, no one acted professionally here. Management clearly didn't handle a situation in which their performer felt sexually harassed, because she felt the need to take it to a public audience.
As far as sexual harassment goes, this is a pretty minor example, but it happened and it's real. Christy Hemme felt a need to take a company complaint into the public sphere. Regardless of whether she consulted with management before going public, the fact that TNA has employees taking corporate grievances public reflects on how weird shit's getting in that company. This whole issue should have been snuffed out quietly- not the 'you shouldn't talk about it' type quietly, but the 'we will handle this to your satisfaction, Ms. Hemme, but within company' quietly.
Mark Madden makes his points like a dick, but I admire him because he always has a point to his writing. (My kind of style!) Calling for Aries to be fired is a way to get most of the mouthbreathers to pay attention, but here's the point- real companies don't handle business this way, and that has nothing to do with what three letters comprise your company name.
Christy Hemme feels uncomfortable, so she goes to either Aries to discuss it, or management if she feels uncomfortable with that. Management informs Aries that he can't be doing things like that. Aries apologizes to Hemme. We hear nothing, but the complaint is handled professionally. Obviously, no one acted professionally here. Management clearly didn't handle a situation in which their performer felt sexually harassed, because she felt the need to take it to a public audience.
As far as sexual harassment goes, this is a pretty minor example, but it happened and it's real. Christy Hemme felt a need to take a company complaint into the public sphere. Regardless of whether she consulted with management before going public, the fact that TNA has employees taking corporate grievances public reflects on how weird shit's getting in that company. This whole issue should have been snuffed out quietly- not the 'you shouldn't talk about it' type quietly, but the 'we will handle this to your satisfaction, Ms. Hemme, but within company' quietly.
Mark Madden makes his points like a dick, but I admire him because he always has a point to his writing. (My kind of style!) Calling for Aries to be fired is a way to get most of the mouthbreathers to pay attention, but here's the point- real companies don't handle business this way, and that has nothing to do with what three letters comprise your company name.
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So..... Clearly this is a bigger deal than some of you seem to understand, mainly because the vast majority of you are mouth breathers (thanks for that Rayne, I was searching for the right word). So let me break it down for you.
1. Austin Aries did something that was sexual harassment
2. Spike seems just a little pissed.
3. No, it's not an angle.
And why are they pissed? Because behavior like this is unacceptable, anywhere in the workplace, even in professional wrestling. No one is saying Austin Aries can't be a heel; he's a pretty damn good heel already. As a matter of fact, he was good at his job before this, and he'll be just as good after it. This isn't a condemnation of what it means to be a heel in wrestling, it's a condemnation of the repulsive behavior of a an overgrown man child, and the man children that seem to not get this is unacceptable.
IE, that would be those of you that offered some piss poor arguments as to why this was ok
So..... Clearly this is a bigger deal than some of you seem to understand, mainly because the vast majority of you are mouth breathers (thanks for that Rayne, I was searching for the right word). So let me break it down for you.
1. Austin Aries did something that was sexual harassment
2. Spike seems just a little pissed.
3. No, it's not an angle.
And why are they pissed? Because behavior like this is unacceptable, anywhere in the workplace, even in professional wrestling. No one is saying Austin Aries can't be a heel; he's a pretty damn good heel already. As a matter of fact, he was good at his job before this, and he'll be just as good after it. This isn't a condemnation of what it means to be a heel in wrestling, it's a condemnation of the repulsive behavior of a an overgrown man child, and the man children that seem to not get this is unacceptable.
IE, that would be those of you that offered some piss poor arguments as to why this was ok
JEEEESUS.
Spike TV stepped in before TNA did. This little molehill which should have been snuffed out quietly to everyone's satisfaction has just turned into a much bigger mountain.
Words honestly fail me here at how embarrassingly public this is becoming for TNA. Those of you in the rah-rah-TNA crowd are going to circle the wagons, but what should have been a very quiet incident is turning into are you fucking kidding me?!?!?! territory.
TNA's television carrier has stepped in to solve a TNA disciplinary problem.
Folks, that's fucking bad. A lot of y'all think I want TNA to fail, and that's the farthest thing from the truth. I want to see them grow and be prosper, and it's going to be VERY hard for people to invest money- private ownership or sponsorship- in TNA with this kind of stuff becoming public.
People here aren't going to get how bad this is for TNA. If you're a TNA fan, you want to get on your knees right now and pray that this is the very, very end of it. All that happens from here is the damage gets worse.
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and while they're on their knees I'm gonna shove my junk in front of their faces. Wonder how that will make them feel.
This is HR and live TV 101, there are lines you don't cross in the work place (or in the world in general) and things you don't do on live TV. It's no surprise Spike stepped in. Yes, there may be some gray area since it is theater but in the end the victim makes the call.
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What's the craic?
Interestingly, Mr Madden has garnered this alleged response from Schwarz himself and yet there is still no formal statements from either Spike or TNA... but Christy has made a vague tweet...
Still smells like a work...
Still smells like a work...
Late to the party but: AA should be disciplined. What he did was rude crude and socially unacceptable. I am not a lawyer so I don't know if what he did was legally sexual harassment but in my I know it when I see it eye, I think it was. CH made a mistake but did not deserve to have AA stick his junk in her face. It is simply wrong.
As for those comparing what AA did to what Joey Ryan does there is no comparison. Everything JR does is scripted and the Knockouts are aware of what he will be doing before the match and sign off of it. AA did something unplanned and unscheduled are is thus wrong
As for those comparing what AA did to what Joey Ryan does there is no comparison. Everything JR does is scripted and the Knockouts are aware of what he will be doing before the match and sign off of it. AA did something unplanned and unscheduled are is thus wrong
I won't say it's no surprise that SpikeTV jumped in; I'm very surprised. What surprises me is that this situation went on long enough for them to have to think about jumping in.
I've ragged on TNA before; I've criticized their plan for future investment on numerous occasions. This is the very first time I have said to myself, "holy shit, there is something very, very, very wrong in TNA right now." This never should have gotten to the level where SpikeTV is issuing press releases.
If you don't understand how, that's OK- many of you don't grasp the idea that even actors aren't allowed to shove their crotches in the face of someone who doesn't want that contact- but this is bad for TNA. This is public relations damage, not attention, and this is exactly the kind of thing a sponsor looks at when deciding if they want to pay money to associate your brand with their brand. NO ONE wants to sponsor a product associated with sexual harassment. If this goes on farther, it hits TNA in the wallet- and it hits hard and all at once.
I'm not saying "THE END IS HERE!" What I am saying is that TNA is in the situation right now where they are a couple more bad moves away from collapsing their entire company catastrophically. I don't think that's the likely outcome- I do think we've heard the last big roar out of this- but this situation could still get way out of hand.
FitFinlay4Life
What's the craic?
So Dixie Carter has finally responded to the furore with the following tweet...
Given that Aries tweet with all the scrotum references happened two days after he'd allegedly been "handled", I'm having trouble believing her... I still think there is more to this than meets the eye and that we are going to see something at the next live Impact.
On a side note, I was very impressed with the following editorial by Adam Gorzelsky on the main WrestleZone page...
Given that Aries tweet with all the scrotum references happened two days after he'd allegedly been "handled", I'm having trouble believing her... I still think there is more to this than meets the eye and that we are going to see something at the next live Impact.
On a side note, I was very impressed with the following editorial by Adam Gorzelsky on the main WrestleZone page...
First off lets get away from the fact that your a tna mark. The fact you are trying to deflect the blame from austin aries to hemme because he is more valuable to the tna company is insane to me. That shows your bias towards austin aries side.
His comments were not moronic. He said because of sexual harrsment someone should be fired. Even if you disagree with him, there is logic there.
And your calling me a hypocrite? What did i say that was hypocritical. I didn't bitch and wine about being disrespect for opposing view point after disrespecting another for the same thing. You also said i was a wwe mark with no evidence to back it up.
In this world its worse to sexually harass someone rather than be a drugged out performer. What hardy did not physically impose his will on someone. What he did was bad, but he was hurting himself more than anyone else. He was even suspended for it.
By the was i responded to the point in an earlier post, but your to much of a 95 year old to remember.
What did i say that was illogical. Show me. Sure i may be immature, but one would have to me a little immature to be on forum arguing over something they have no control over.
No i never said it was Hemmes fault for the sexual harrasment. I was just setting the record straight on whos fault it was for the announcing flub. Because even it was her fault for the announcing mishap, its a moot point as that does should not lead to repercussions of someone corning you and putting his junk in your face. And if us fans have no influence then why are you getting so pissed. I never said i hated anyone. I have not been defensive. These things are silly to say as there is no proof of me doing any of it. Think before you post thank you.
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