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Make Hornswoggle a heel manager.

Undying777

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Im not a big fan of the leprechaun gimmick. It has just played out its corse, its old and stale. So what to do with the man? Make him a heal manager.

I would first have two huge wrestlers start to attack HHH costing him matches, and attacking him back stage. In their promos they talk about the Big Man or the Boss, implying that there is another man behind the attacks. After a couple of weeks of attacks , and matches between the three, In the end it is revealed as Hornswoggle as the “ The Big Boss”

Hornswoggle or as he calls himself “The Big Boss” could remind us that (storyline) he is Vince McMahon’s real son. He dos not want the business to go to HHH or Stephanie when vince passes the thrown on. Thats why he used his inheritance to build his own family, his own empire. Maybe the new Cooperation!! He could say that the leprechaun gimmick was HHH’s idea. It was given to him to bury him in obscurity and to be made a joke so that he would never earn the respect a McMahon should have.

Could you imagine Hornswoggle walking to the ring dressed as a mob boss or in a black kind of suit that he wears now. A cain in his left hand and a hot gold digging Diva “Kelly Kelly” in the other. I think he could get massive heat. He could also have a really big wrestler as his bodyguard. Somebody like Big Ezekiel

Do you guys think this could work? Can Hornswoggle turn heal and be hated by the kids who love him so dearly?
What wrestlers would be perfect for the henchmen/ tag team roll?
What diva do you think could play the gold digging girlfriend?
 
I have to say...I kinda laughed at this idea at first. But it could really work out and be something funny and special. Not to mention, it hasn't been done before. Ezekiel being his bodyguard would be funny. It could work, good idea man.
 
I cant stand hornswoggle at all and thought putting him in DX was one of the worst ideas in wrestling history. I am resigned however to the fact that he will play a big part in the PG era in a lot of backstage segments and ringside interference as he will appeal to kiddies and vince has always seemed to think that midgets in wrestling attracts viewers. I think making him a heel manager wud be an improvement tho even then id still never be won over. I dont think we'll ever hear of hornswoggle being referred to as vinces son again tho cos i think this storyline will be buried forever.
 
I have my sincere doubts that it will ever be taken serious.
First of all as far as I recall, people hated the illegitimate son storyline, mainly because Hornswoggle was the revealed son.
Hornswoggle being the bigger man and having back up from two other guys in a faction kind of way? I really, and I mean really have my doubts it will work into a functional storyline if Hornswoggle was the leader, hell had a proper well build wrestler who could actually win a match and make it seem legit, had he been the son of Vince, the storyline would've been able to work, at least a little bit more than your idea man.

But other than that, I actually must admit I could probably get into the storyline in some way, just not with Hornswoggle as "the big boss"
 
i like it. i also had an idea of having him join the SES. punk comes out and asks who in the audiance wants to be saved. hornswaggles music hits. he comes out cm punk kinda laughs but shaves his head anyway. they could say drugs made him think he was a leprechaun. this would give him instant heat. and would make him relevant and bearable to watch with out him taking up too much tv tme.
 
The real test to see if something like this could work is if Horny can work the mic using English. The guy's got it pretty easy since in his usual "swoggle-ease" all he has to do is grunt and growl. If he were to use English and do it well, this could really work. In fact, I'd say make him as mouthy as possible to make up for his small stature. Plus, the fact he'd be shamelessly hiding behind some monster heel wrestler would make him even more infuriating. After all, the only thing more angering than a loudmouth is a loudmouth that can't back it up and needs his enforcers to do it for him.

Turning the traditional pot of gold into traditional "bling" wouldn't be a bad idea, either.
 
I didn't know WWE was bringing the Lollypop Guild up from FCW as a monster heel tag team.lol

In all seriousness, he will eventually go the way of Eugene/Zack Gowen/Boogeyman...They will run out of stuff for him and he will get released. The only reason I think he still has a job is because little kids(and Vince) think he's hilarious. I can't see him being a manger in any capacity, especially a heel manager. The only person I could see in WWE pulling off a heel manager gimmick is Joey Styles. That would be entertaining television...plus I just want to hear Joey say " O MY GAWD!" one last time. lol
 
i kinda like the idea but it wouldnt work for one very good reason it was revealed that hornswoggle was not vinces son that it was just a scam and that he was finlays son thats how they killed the story if you remember
now if the highlanders were still in the wwe they could put him with them as there Gaelic cousin.
 
At first sight, this thread's "title" pissed me off a little bit. When I think heel manager I always go back to Bobby Heenan. For me, he is the measuring stick that all managers are held up to. But I've got to say that the plan you laid out is GREAT!

It could really work if WWE put as much thought into it as Undying777 did. I would watch it. With that being said I don't think it ever will happen and kinda see things going the way WWE Manster03 described.


Rated_R_Superstar2010 thoughts on a storyline with CM Punk's SES is another good one.

Hornswoggle seems like a good kid...I hope they find something better for him.
 
I actually think this is a great idea. But I have a better idea. Stop giving TV time to Hornswoggle and give it to someone on the roster who is more deserving. They could've given the Hornswoggle gimmick to Haas or Evan Bourne just to get them more over. Hornswoggle is just a waste. Still a good idea nonetheless.
 
i kinda like the idea but it wouldnt work for one very good reason it was revealed that hornswoggle was not vinces son that it was just a scam and that he was finlays son thats how they killed the story if you remember
now if the highlanders were still in the wwe they could put him with them as there Gaelic cousin.


lol, you killed the whole thing. I forgot about that.lol

but it could still work if you cut out the Vince's son thing. How about he used his leprechaun gold to build his family lol. Or even better, he was skimming DX merch sales, or laundering thear money to build his empire of crime. This could work. :)
 
I think the idea would've been good if they pulled the trigger on it years ago when he debuted, and never made him a leprechaun. At this point, though, I don't think he'll ever be taken seriously and people would just laugh at him in a suit trying to be serious. If they can pull it off, then more power to em. Maybe have his boys destroy someone major like Undertaker or Shawn Michaels to gain some real heat.
 
I actually think this is a great idea. But I have a better idea. Stop giving TV time to Hornswoggle and give it to someone on the roster who is more deserving. They could've given the Hornswoggle gimmick to Haas or Evan Bourne just to get them more over. Hornswoggle is just a waste. Still a good idea nonetheless.


i do feel you on that. its something I have said for a while. Their is so many more people I would rather see on my t.v. Its more of if you cant beat them join them kind of thing. If they are going to still have him on our t.v at least make him entertaining.

I could just see him running a mafia like faction as The Big Boss. Scamming Hot dog venders, merch tables, and laundering Vince's and DX money. Pimping out some Divas. lol YEA I SAID IT. Ok maybe not with the pg era. LOL
 
Hornswoggle is a midget. Midgets do not belong in wrestling, period. He's not even a cool midget, not even a midget with mic skills or charisma. The guy needs to just go. I heard Bischoff opened a Midget wrestling company - he can go there and trail blaze the others.
 
I actually like Hornswoggle as he is used now. Not on television. Unless they completely change his gimmick, i don't want to see little Swoggle on TV. His promos are just grunts and when Chech and Chong were guest hosts, that Lucky Charms segment was so dumb. lucky charms is not going to make you get high like that.
Rated_R_Superstar2010 thoughts on a storyline with CM Punk's SES is another good one.
i second that, that is a good idea. It would CHANGE the Hornswoggle character. He would say, he's not a leapracon, he's a man and he will say that since he's no longer under the influence, he sees clearly what these fans are and that would get him heel heat.
 
i like it. i also had an idea of having him join the SES. punk comes out and asks who in the audiance wants to be saved. hornswaggles music hits. he comes out cm punk kinda laughs but shaves his head anyway. they could say drugs made him think he was a leprechaun. this would give him instant heat. and would make him relevant and bearable to watch with out him taking up too much tv tme.

I think that is the ONLY way it could be pulled off,The SES turned Festus aka The Corn Fed Colossus into an ass kicking disciple,if they can pull that off..who knows??
 
no,no,no,no........the only thing they should do with him is fire his butt. crap gimmicks like his,doink,eugene ect. is one reason ive never been a huge wwe fan.its almost embarrasing to admit im a wrestling fan when junk like this is givin a place on wrestling programs,hell ive always thought the undertaker gimmick was kind of silly but at least the dude has talent.
 
I think they shoul get rid of Hornswoggle all together. Whats his attraction anyway apart from he is a little person. Get rid of him, he is just a mascot.
 
:lol:

"The Big Boss"????? Hornswoggle???? Really????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I'm sorry dude, but no one will take this seriously. Or atleast I cant take this seriously. But Hornswoggle just cant cut it in a gimmick like this, where you have to be taken seriously and be a major player. And this would basically turn into a stable. And there are enough as it is. Well theres only SES right now, but still no, it would just be too hard to take that gimmick seriously.
 
Ummm..well...it's an idea but..well it's just something that would not work. Dwarves, little people, midgets or whatever you want to call them have been part of wrestling for decades and decades and they've NEVER been taken seriously. They were never supposed to be taken seriously and they're probably never going to be taken seriously.

I sometimes watch the AAA promotion based in Mexico City, Mexico sometimes when I remember its on. I can't understand what they're saying of course, but I watch it sometimes. They have a heel manager that's a midget and, even as cartoonish as AAA is, I still can't take the guy seriously even though he has a more serious character and gimmick than about 80% of the AAA roster. Just like you have some wrestlers that simply can't be believable heels, it's all but impossible to take a midget seriously.

Hornswoggle would be no different. When it comes to someone playing a villainous character, it's all but impossible to find a grown man the same size as an average 10 year old boy believable or take him serious. Midget villains are simply lame. Always have been whether it be in movies, television shows, comic books or whatever. Hornswoggle's presence on Raw in 2010 has been very minimal this year and it's been an improvement to Raw in and of itself.
 
Less Hornswoggle is more. The kids cheer for him and buy his stuff to laugh at him. If Hornswoggle was an evil leprechaun or a pimp or mafioso, people wouldn't cheer but they would just laugh at how ridiculous he was. Or even worse, they probably wouldn't have a reaction for him at all. There really is nothing for Hornswoggle without DX. They are using now to shoot t shirt into the audience during commercial breaks. There isn't much else for him to do. His character is as limited as Maria's character when she came out during commercial breaks to do a kiss cam.
 
Just wondering, did you get this idea from Watchmen? In Watchmen they had the midget guy from Seinfeld who used two big guys to try to take out Rorschach in Prison. I think this gimmick could be interesting. He could turn from a Leprechaun to an Irish mobster. He could first take out his father Finlay.(In storyline, I know he is not actually Finlay's son). and then he could i guess go against a top babyface. Randy Orton would be the best choice because he is kind of a tweener. He is not a kiss ass baby face like Cena, but more of a bad ass who plays by his own rules. I guess they could use Tyler Reks and Vance Archer since neither are doing anything at the moment.
 
Just wondering, did you get this idea from Watchmen? In Watchmen they had the midget guy from Seinfeld who used two big guys to try to take out Rorschach in Prison. I think this gimmick could be interesting. He could turn from a Leprechaun to an Irish mobster. He could first take out his father Finlay.(In storyline, I know he is not actually Finlay's son). and then he could i guess go against a top babyface. Randy Orton would be the best choice because he is kind of a tweener. He is not a kiss ass baby face like Cena, but more of a bad ass who plays by his own rules. I guess they could use Tyler Reks and Vance Archer since neither are doing anything at the moment.

No.. but now that you mention it, i do remember that part of the movie.
 
i like it. i also had an idea of having him join the SES. punk comes out and asks who in the audiance wants to be saved. hornswaggles music hits. he comes out cm punk kinda laughs but shaves his head anyway. they could say drugs made him think he was a leprechaun. this would give him instant heat. and would make him relevant and bearable to watch with out him taking up too much tv tme.


This is also a good idea. I think the chemistry between Punk and Hornswaggle would be so funny.
 
The real test to see if something like this could work is if Horny can work the mic using English. The guy's got it pretty easy since in his usual "swoggle-ease" all he has to do is grunt and growl. If he were to use English and do it well, this could really work. In fact, I'd say make him as mouthy as possible to make up for his small stature. Plus, the fact he'd be shamelessly hiding behind some monster heel wrestler would make him even more infuriating. After all, the only thing more angering than a loudmouth is a loudmouth that can't back it up and needs his enforcers to do it for him.

Turning the traditional pot of gold into traditional "bling" wouldn't be a bad idea, either.

We are on the same page on this. I don't know about you but a mouthy midget would get under my skin. And him bossing around some really big guys would be funny. I think he could generate some major heat.

Not sure if he has any good mic skills. IMO ,I think that is something all wrestlers can learn to have. They just need the opportunity to work on it. But i am sure he speaks English because he is American.
 

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