Live Discussion: RAW 4/28/08

[Lil Wes]

Fucking Burchill.

God, this guy is shit. Like this show.

 

[klunderbunker]

Eventually they have to do something with Burchill besides random squashes.

That could be the seeds of a stable.

 

[Slyfox696]

A squash match coming.


Seems like HHH starting the show with a boring pointless segment just set the tone for the night.

 

[Y_2_aJ]

Paul "sister fucker" Burchill vs Super Jobber.

Great

And the fact a couple of weeks back, Burchill was from Liverpool, England.....now hes from Chelsea, England

 

[Uncle Phatso]

get some of that poontang supercrazy ... OR whatever you wanna call it?

 

[a7xoff]

Glad to see I missed jack shit...

 

[klunderbunker]

Wow. That was bad.

 

[Uncle Phatso]

lol look at fatass fly!

 

[Starchild]

Kennedy is over? Since when?!

Well let's solve this democratically and have a vote. Just change number when you vote

Kennedy over - 1

Kennedy not over -

 

[Papa Shango]

Paul "sister fucker" Burchill vs Super Jobber.

Great

And the fact a couple of weeks back, Burchill was from Liverpool, England.....now hes from Chelsea, England

Didn't you know? The Burchill's are a nomadic clan. They only stay in one place for as long as it takes for them to fuck any relatives they may have in the area.

 

[xmoshx]

kennedy on smackdown=the man

 

[Uncle Phatso]

what a devistating finisher there paul. A fucking curbstomp ... wow leaving me speachless here..

 

[Capt. Charisma]

Fuck I don't know. Since 06?

No he was getting cheered when he was supposed to be a heel when he had a brief feud with Batista, theres a difference.

 

[Moon Knight]

LOL, it was still the Era that Austin and Rock ushered in. I mean, do you REALLY think it's a coincidence that ratings spiked when Austin and Rock got hot, and then dropped when they left?


And, why would we take out Edge, HHH, HBK from Cena's reign? They were there for HHH's reigns! Well, not HBK, but Undertaker was, and Undertaker is approximately as good of a draw as HBK.


You don't take them out, because they were a part of both.

Austin wasn't there for a large part of HHH's title reign in 2000, neither was Undertaker and Edge wasn't a main eventer during them, he was during Cena's. And ratings never rebounded even when Austin came back, the attitude era grew stale in the later years. Remember in 2000 the WWE didn't have much beyond HHH and The Rock, so if you won't take Edge or HBK away from Cena's why should I take Rock and Austin away from HHH's, I mean they MUST have played a part in both right? Ignoring the fact Austins drawing power dropped off after he came back.

 

[hardrocker488]

Bring back the C4. That was an awesome move.

 

[Slyfox696]

Well let's solve this democratically and have a vote. Just change number when you vote

Kennedy over - 1

Kennedy not over -

5.5 million viewers watching Raw at home just raised their hand for "Kennedy not over".


Kennedy over - 1

Kennedy not over - 5,500,000

 

[Papa Shango]

Orton: "NO!"

Best Orton promo ever.

 

[xmoshx]

Bring back the C4. That was an awesome move.

c4 was such a good finisher

 

[Papa Shango]

I wanna see Iron Man so fuckng bad!!

 

[Uncle Phatso]

damn strait papa old bob sr must be fucking proud

 

[Lil Wes]

No he was getting cheered when he was supposed to be a heel when he had a brief feud with Batista, theres a difference.

So Cena isn't over because he gets booed out of arenas? Sorry. Next.

 

[Frank the Frowner]

Both Orton and Grisham's facial expressions made that promo.

 

[Slyfox696]

Austin wasn't there for a large part of HHH's title reign in 2000, neither was Undertaker and Edge wasn't a main eventer during them, he was during Cena's. And ratings never rebounded even when Austin came back, the attitude era grew stale in the later years. Remember in 2000 the WWE didn't have much beyond HHH and The Rock, so if you won't take Edge or HBK away from Cena's why should I take Rock and Austin away from HHH's, I mean they MUST have played a part in both right? Ignoring the fact Austins drawing power dropped off after he came back.

Why are you so scared of comparing drawing reigns for HHH without Rock? Why are you so scared of comparing the reign that HHH had when Austin was officially gone?


HHH with Austin and Rock gone - 3.69
Cena in 2006 - 3.9


Cena > HHH



Hell, let's even say that HHH was responsible for those great ratings, even though we both know he's not. What does it say about HHH that his drawing power was LITERALLY cut in half from 2000 to 2004? He's not as big of a draw now, which is the point we're discussing.


So, still...

Cena > HHH

 

[Uncle Phatso]

Ortons promo just went down in the history books ... well mine as the best ever. Place sarcasim ware needed.

 

[Papa Shango]

So Cena isn't over because he gets booed out of arenas? Sorry. Next.

Exactly. Just because you're not getting the reactions Vince McMahon wants doesn't mean you're not over. Just ask Steve Austin.