Live Discussion: Final Four

[Slyfox696]

Them player of the year awards went to him because he is not a freshman, everybody knows that, Beasley should have been the player of the year, look at the numbers, nobody wanted to give it to a freshman again, so Hansbrough got em.

Please. Weren't you the one who just made a case for a player's team's success? And you want to give it to Beasely?

Just because Beasley plays on an inferior team, doesn't make him the better player.

Hansbrough will do nothing in the NBA, Rose and Beasley will be stars.

What the fuck does playing in the NBA have to do with one college season?

 

[Cage917r]

Playing in the NBA? It has to do with who is the better player, thats what it has to do. Oh and the Beasley comment was in regard to the Player of the Year awards that Hansbrough has won, he shouldn't have one them, that honor should go to Beasley. Beasley's numbers say he was the player of the year and that was on a team with only two quality players, which meant he was double or triple teamed most of the time.

When it comes to the teams success, yeah Rose is also better than Hansbrough, the Player of the Year doesn't always go to the best player because most freshman dont have numbers like Durant and Beasley had, Rose didn't have numbers deserving of player of the year, but he is still better than Hansbrough. He was able to lead his team farther than Hansbrough and put forth better numbers in the most important game of the season.

 

[Slyfox696]

Playing in the NBA? It has to do with who is the better player, thats what it has to do.

Player of the Year has to do with who had the better year, not who will be a better NBA basketball player.

Oh and the Beasley comment was in regard to the Player of the Year awards that Hansbrough has won, he shouldn't have one them, that honor should go to Beasley.

No, they shouldn't.

Hansbrough averaged 23 points and 10 rebounds on a team that had much more talent, meaning less opportunities for numbers, a team which only lost 3 games all year.

Beasley's numbers say he was the player of the year and that was on a team with only two quality players, which meant he was double or triple teamed most of the time.

No, it means he got to shoot all the time.

When it comes to the teams success, yeah Rose is also better than Hansbrough, the Player of the Year doesn't always go to the best player because most freshman dont have numbers like Durant and Beasley had, Rose didn't have numbers deserving of player of the year, but he is still better than Hansbrough.

Who won Player of the Year last year?

Kevin Durant? A freshman? You must be kidding!

Age has nothing to do with it, just quality of play. I'm not saying that Beasley or Rose aren't good, just that Hansbrough is better.

He was able to lead his team farther than Hansbrough

Yeah, I'm sure Joey Dorsey and Chris Douglas Roberts had nothing to do with that.

and put forth better numbers in the most important game of the season.

The fact you have to rely on one game, in which the two teams didn't even play each other, to prove your point, shows how weak your argument is.

 

[Cage917r]

So you are telling me that Hansbrough is a better basketball player that Rose or Beasley. If you had to choice to have either Beasley, Rose or Hansbrough, you would choose Hansbrough, that would be rediculous.

Your argument about Hansbrough being on a better team, so having less opportunities doesn't make sense. Yes Beasley's team had less talent, so when Hansbrough was being guarded one on one because his team was so good that they couldn't double as often as Beasley, Beasley had two or even three guys on him. So it is more incredible that Beasley had the numbers he did. Beasley led his team past Kansas during the regular season, look at the talent difference there, it takes a great player to make up for that talent difference.

Regarding Beasley just tossing up shots, he shot 53% from the field this year, so he wasn't just throwing shots up there, he was making his shots.

When it comes to Rose, isn't your argument against Beasley that Hansbrough's team had a better record and made it farther than Beasley's?? Its basically the same argument I have for Rose, his team has a better record and made it farther than Hansbrough's team did. So if that makes Hansbrough better than Beasley, why cant it make Rose better than Hansbrough??

 

[Cage917r]

And everybody knows that Rose is the leader of his team, he sets up most of the shots for Dougals-Roberts, and Dorsey scored zero points against UCLA, he is a big part of there defensive success, but Rose is what makes there whole team run.

 

[Lil Wes]

Tony Romo for Admin.

 

[Cage917r]

Clutch three, OT in the title game, perfect ending to a great tournament.

 

[klunderbunker]

I'm worried about Memphis now. Rose is hurt

 

[Lil Wes]

Rofl Rofl Rofl Rofl Rofl They Blew It At The Line Rofl!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lil Wes]

And Calipari said free throws aren't important


Idiot.

 

[klunderbunker]

I'm pulling for Memphis but if they lose it will be the funniest thing I've seen in years.

 

[Lil Wes]

The inside defense without Dorsey is the dagger in Memphis

 

[klunderbunker]

It looks bleak for the tigers. They blew it, plain and simple

 

[klunderbunker]

Oh sure now he hits them

 

[Lil Wes]

Yup.

Calipari can eat his words now. Boy is he going to look like an ass in the media tomorrow


BIG 12 REPRESENT! CHEA.

 

[Cage917r]

Well I picked Kansas to win it all, but you have to give Kansas credit for making the three, I know Memphis missed the free thorws, but they didn't completely blow it, Kansas earned it with that three.

 

[klunderbunker]

Nice shot. Think self is gone if kansas wins?

 

[Cage917r]

Oh and it isn't over yet, lets be serious, it looked like Kansas was done too.

 

[klunderbunker]

That's a good point. Both of them are actually. It's not over yet.

 

[Cage917r]

Nice shot. Think self is gone if kansas wins?

Yes he will be gone, probaby either way. Did you see the money Oklahoma St. is offering, he would be stupid to turn it down.

 

[klunderbunker]

I agree. $10 million first year? You can't pass that up.

 

[Lil Wes]

Yeah, 6M signing bonus at your alma mater is too much. He'll leave.

Well I picked Kansas to win it all, but you have to give Kansas credit for making the three, I know Memphis missed the free thorws, but they didn't completely blow it, Kansas earned it with that three.

LOL.

No, Memphis lost it, Kansas didn't win it. They completely folded down the stretch, they make a good stand on Collins going to the bucket, get back to the line and choke. Get a HUGE rebound, get back to the line and choke. Then got off balance defensively to allow the shot, Memphis lost it IF they even lose.

 

[Cage917r]

Too early to foul, you have to make them earn it.

 

[klunderbunker]

I know how it feels. Same thing happened to UK against Arizona in 1997.

 

[Cage917r]

Well they did blow it by missing the free throws, but Kansas earned it by making clutch shots, you know what I am saying.

And yeah, he is making like 1.5 million a year at Kansas, they let Roy Williams leave, they will let Self leave too.