LIFE: What is the point?

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That's all folks.
I'm a bit tired, bear with me.

Mankind and Humans have questioned the meaning and purpose of life since their existence on this earth. We've had numerous philosophers to try explain the meaning of it all. Some say Love is life. Love is happiness, inner peace and can relate to a lot of reason for life. Other people have religion to comfort themselves with purposes for life. To make it to the after life and live life glorifying god. But other people say that saying the sole purpose of life is dying would be hopelss and depressing. I sometimes sit down and try to think what is my purpose in life. I'm an athiest but many people tell me religion is the way to find the point in life--faith. I have found out lately that a lot of my life revolves around making my girlfriend happy, so I am happy. Could that really be wht my life is all about? Could happiness really be the key to the purpose of life? What do think the point of your life is? Which leads to the discussion questions;


In your opinion, what is the point of life?

Is your purpose of life different from someone else's purpose?

Can we change the point of life?


And as always, here's a pic for the troubles.
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Discuss this shit.
 
In your opinion, what is the point of life?

In general, the purpose of life is to basically just live life to the fullest. When one goes through life, they go through so many experiecnes. From those experience, the best you can do is to just enjoy all of them. Enjoy the momments you’re having right now; enjoy the momments you’re going to have tommorow; and enjoy the momments you will have forever after.

Of course, such ideology does not apply to everyone. Mankind is a cruel, cruel being that has endulged themselves in greed, power, arrogance, stupidy--all of which have prevented some from being able to enjoy their life.

When it comes to individually, I believe that picture shown in the OP best describes the meaning of life. Life, will forever be whatever you want it to be. If you want your life to be the best possible—then make it happen. You’re the one in control—take action mo’fucker and be what you must. On the other hand, if you don’t give a fuck and just spend your life waisting it; doing nothing. Well, then life has been waisted on you.

Is your purpose of life different from someone else's purpose?

Purpose? I think this question ties more into what would be considered destiny—but regardless, I would have to go with yes. Same as how people have different characteristics, I believe they also have different prupose of life. Now, how do these purposes differentiate? By how one uses his life for whatever reason. If say, for example, one wants to take his life and become a wrestler. If he tries hard enough, and works hard at it, perhaps he CAN become a wrestler. Now, if say, someone else were to want to become a teacher, thenhe would take his life and become a teacher.

It all comes down to choice. Many people have different choices they want to make from one another; and they just use these choices to live their life to the fullest and ultimately reach enjoyment and hapyness.

Can we change the point of life?

Of course we can. Like I said before, we, as human beings are able to control our life and make our own choices. If I go back to the example I gave above about the wrestler; If say, the wrestler had decided to quit wrestling and wanted to pursue a career in the film industry, then he coud very well do it. Of course, there’d be a few bumps and brick walls to go through it, but he could still manage to do it.

Bottom line: if a person does not like the way his life is turning out, he can reflect on it and change it to be a different way.



At the end of the day, life is ment to be enjoyed to the fullest. Sure, there are obstacles to overcome, but that’s all just part of the game...The game of life...
 
There isn't truly a universal purpose in life. It really does depend on each individual and what they hope to achieve with their life. A devout Christians purpose would be to repent and serve the lord so they could have a comfortable title in the afterlife while a serial killer's purpose would be to leave an imprint on to the world.
 
I love how that quote in the picture, is basically just another way of saying 'there is no point,' but of course, everyone would rather think that they have the power to control their own destinies over being told that their existance is irrelevant.

Life is a happy accident imo. For all we know, an alien stopped on earth to take a piss in the sea, and life sprung from the chemical reaction. Maybe life was never intended for this planet. Who really knows?

The point of life? A question that no one can answer with any real credibility. What works for you won't work for everyone.

The point of life as far as i'm concerned, is to try and reach the end of your natural life, without lying in your death bed at the end of it, wishing you hadn't wasted your existence, and only you can truly say whether your life was full of fulfilment at the end of the day.
 
In your opinion, what is the point of life?

The point of life is to make it your own. Your experience is different than another persons experience.

Is your purpose of life different from someone else's purpose?
Yes that is definitely the case. One life is different than another. no two lives are the same.
Can we change the point of life?
Why would we want to? As I've said before it is the point of life to experience it the way you want to experience it. If there's something in your life that you want changed, YOU CAN!
 
I'm with Camus on this. Nothing lasts, there is no truth, no answers, no meaning, no God and looking for these things is absurd. Accept it, find your peace with it, rebel against the pointlessness and simply be happy in knowing that your fate is sealed and nothing you or anyone else does will matter in the slightest. Life is little more than a toy to be played with for a while.
 
I don't think there is any great divine purpose in life. Its easy for us to think of because we are conscious beings who have the brain capacity to conger up such questions. Lets look at if from a different point of view.

What would you say is the point of life from a deers perspective? If the deer had the ability to answer it would probably tell you the point of its life is to simply exist. To survive, avoid being eaten by predators and avoid being shot by hunters. To basically avoid death until the time is right.

I think the purpose to life is irrelevant. There is no purpose but to survive. whether it just be as individual or as a species. To reproduce and to simply continue to exist for as long as the universe allows us to. People like to ask this question to try and justify and bring meaning to their own existence.

Have you heard this before? Oh I'm just one person on a planet of billions upon billions. What difference can one person really matter? I've heard that countless times. True is one person really can make a difference. Look at gandhi, martin luther king, Abraham lincoln. They all left significant legacies and left the foundation for future generations to live. One many can make a difference.

From the human perspective I think ultimately there is no point to life but to survive and exist. But we are conscious beings like no other on this planet. We can forge our own path and make our own choices and ultimately decide our own fate. We find ways to give our lives meaning. People do it all the time. Wether your purpose is to love, gain access to money, find happiness. Its about to you to define your own life and your own existence. But my opinion remains, there is no point but to discover a point for your own, give yourself purpose if it helps you sleep at night.
 
In your opinion, what is the point of life?
I'm not sure if there is one. People have been searching for a meaning to life for thousands of years and many have come up with their own theories. Humans hate the feeling that our existence may be pointless, and with life being so difficult, it's hard to believe we endure everything just to die.

I don't think there is necessarily a point, but I do believe there is much to do with ones life. We have the ability to enjoy things like music, feel passion, and to love eachother. I'm not sure if that qualifies as a point, but they sure are damn good reasons to be alive.

Is your purpose of life different from someone else's purpose?

I wouldn't say my purpose, but the way I live is different from everybody else's. I enjoy fighting for things and working to better myself, but that doesn't make me unique; it makes me, well, me. We all chose our own fate and some chose to live lives that have been lived a thousand times over, while some take the path less traveled.

We should all live with our own purpose, but the choice is up to every individual to make for themselves.
Can we change the point of life?

Change? No. Create? yes.

It comes down to whether you believe there is a set purpose. Here in North America, we have every oppurtunity in the world and can do anything with our live's.

I think the following poem sums it all up:

Invictus
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.


-William Ernest Henley

What is basically being said is that no matter what, you are in control of your life, your futur, everything. It is never to late to change any of it.

Discuss this shit.

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I'm with Camus on this. Nothing lasts, there is no truth, no answers, no meaning, no God and looking for these things is absurd. Accept it, find your peace with it, rebel against the pointlessness and simply be happy in knowing that your fate is sealed and nothing you or anyone else does will matter in the slightest. Life is little more than a toy to be played with for a while.

I wish to be a God and afterlife so atleast I know I'am not living this shitty life just for nothing. Their has to be a afterlife were its paradise, not nothingness.
 
I wish to be a God and afterlife so atleast I know I'am not living this shitty life just for nothing. Their has to be a afterlife were its paradise, not nothingness.

You can believe there is something more if it makes you feel better, you're certainly not the only one. Maybe you should question whether you actually believe in the afterlife, or you simply want to believe it because it has something to offer you.

Personally I'm not able to believe in anything more and that's a harsh reality to come to terms with, but once you've got over it, it's liberating. I know my clock is running down and that even if I become the greatest man to ever live that one day the sun will eat this planet and nothing I did would matter.
Believing these things used to make me feel incredible sad, I used to refer to myself as an unwilling nihilist because I couldn't find the meaning I was looking for. Camus taught me to stop looking for answers, just accept it and just try to be happy.
I didn't mention life as a toy by accident. People spend hours every day playing computer games, not because they're part of any great plan or search for affirmation, but simply because they're fun and they make people happy. That should be enough.
People keep looking for this grand meaning and explanation of life but there isn't one. At best there is only the meaning you give it and that meaning will inevitably come down to being happy, one way or another.
 
You can believe there is something more if it makes you feel better, you're certainly not the only one. Maybe you should question whether you actually believe in the afterlife, or you simply want to believe it because it has something to offer you.

Personally I'm not able to believe in anything more and that's a harsh reality to come to terms with, but once you've got over it, it's liberating. I know my clock is running down and that even if I become the greatest man to ever live that one day the sun will eat this planet and nothing I did would matter.
Believing these things used to make me feel incredible sad, I used to refer to myself as an unwilling nihilist because I couldn't find the meaning I was looking for. Camus taught me to stop looking for answers, just accept it and just try to be happy.
I didn't mention life as a toy by accident. People spend hours every day playing computer games, not because they're part of any great plan or search for affirmation, but simply because they're fun and they make people happy. That should be enough.
People keep looking for this grand meaning and explanation of life but there isn't one. At best there is only the meaning you give it and that meaning will inevitably come down to being happy, one way or another.

I understand what you mean but I like their to be an afterlife and if I go can actually enjoy the afterlife more then the actual life I'am living right now. The afterlife can be everything anybody truly dreamed of, not this reality we live in were we are limited to things. No troubles, no worries or pain and suffering in the afterlife, that is nothing but greatness!....greatness!:)
 
A couple of months ago, I was talking to two of my friends about various philosophical topics. My one friend kept interjecting with very emotional responses that were borderline irrational. After she left, me and my other friend criticised her responses, and wondered why and how she thought the way she did. I suggested it was simply because of her upbringing and genetics, and we left it at that.

About a week later, but friend took the idea a little further. Out of the blue, he suggested that every decision we make has human beings is based on a number of factors, those being: our genetics, our environment/history (which encompasses a wide array of things) and a certain element of randomness. He then went on to say that as we don’t have control over the factors, we don’t have control over our decisions. Essentially, humans are simply machines; and as we don’t control the input, we don’t control the output.

It’s kind of a dark concept, as it pretty much states that we have no free will. I’d rather not believe it, but at the same time, I can’t help but notice it makes sense.

Anyway, to the point. If our existence is in fact void of free will, it’s hard to see how there is a point to life at all. We are all living processers, our morals and actions are based on factors not determined by ourselves. I believe that a race as advanced as outs has trouble comprehending and accepting this idea, that we are in fact irrelevant, and our existence has to ‘point.’ Humans have conjured up this elaborate view of what life and being alive means, but when things are broken down and we take our desires out of the equation, it’s hard to see how there is a point to life at all.

Now, I don’t believe in this concept (If I did, I’d be very depressed) but it’s an interesting idea nonetheless. I know it’s not new, obviously, but it was only bought to my attention recently and I’ve been thinking about it a lot.
 
I'm not quite certain there is a point, in the traditional sense of the word, at least not a universally (globally?) accepted one. It's entirely personal and individual. I've a basic balancing of scales concept that I apply to my own journey. Did I do more harm than good? Cause more pain than I soothed? If so, then I've not been successful in my day-to-day endeavors and must do better on the next attempt. If I can leave this world, in some meager way, better than when I found it, it'll all have been a great experience. I'm really rather simple.
 

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