Less Championships

[DD84]

What would the WWE universe be with less championships? A lot of people on here hate all these championship, but really how would WWE be without all of these championship? On this thread I would like it if you guys would examine how different WWE would be without all these title, both positives and negatives. Would WWE be better or worse? How does it affect current and past wrestlers legacies? Also, will there come a day that there will be less championships? One other question is how would it affect the Money in the Bank cash in? Well it be more interesting or less. One last question, which championships would you take away or will you add more?

Go ahead, post.

 

[TwistofRKO]

Probably the most popular thing i've seen on here.

I think the main two they need to fix, and the most logical, are the Tag titles and the Women's belts. Divas should be interchangable from show to show, and the tag teams roam all over the different shows already.

I think they'd have the best impact on the shows without really effecting everything else around them.

 

[farlance]

I agree that there should be undisputed tag team and womens that float from show to show. They already do and it would give them more credibility and create fueds by giving the loophole of getting people to jump shows, plus I always thought, before that diva belt was introduced, that there were alot of women on smackdown serving no purpose but to look good because there was no way to get a womens title shot, I mean wouldnt that be the sole purpose for a woman to be in WWE? to one day try to be champ, and here they are just sitting on smackdown with no reason or opportunity?

The tag belts, they have no credibility and no spotlight that i have to sit and think for a few minutes who the damn champs are, and what show they belong on.

 

[DD84]

I am just wondering would you guys feel if there was only one world champ. One of every champ. Would it increase interest in WWE or decrease? Also is WWE just as bad as boxing with no legit World Champion?

 

[Sean Valjean]

The tag belts should be unified. Neither show has enough tag teams to justify having it's own set of belts. Get rid of the WWE tag belts.

The Diva's title needs to go. Smackdown's divas are joke. McCool is the best they have (until Gail Kim debuts). The belt is hideous too. It makes the spinner belt look like the winged eagle belt.

Those are the only two that I would definately get rid of. Unifying the tag belts would make the tag division look bigger without actually adding teams since they'd all have one thing to fight for. Just have the champs defend on all the shows. Miz & Morrison do it all the time, so it should be them. It would only help the tag division.

Same goes for the woman's champ.

As far as the World title's go, I'm undecided. If they had only one belt, preferably the WWE title, it'd obviously be more prestigious because only one person can be world champ. No "Raw champ"/"Smackdown" champ BS.

On the other hand, the WWE have alot more main eventers than before. They can't all be involved in world title fueds, so they'd have to have non title fueds to give them something to do. That wouldn't give mid-card fueds a chance. Hell, they barely do with two world champions.

 

[WrestlingHistorian]

What would the WWE universe be with less championships? A lot of people on here hate all these championship, but really how would WWE be without all of these championship? On this thread I would like it if you guys would examine how different WWE would be without all these title, both positives and negatives. Would WWE be better or worse? How does it affect current and past wrestlers legacies? Also, will there come a day that there will be less championships? One other question is how would it affect the Money in the Bank cash in? Well it be more interesting or less. One last question, which championships would you take away or will you add more?

Go ahead, post.

Having one set of Tag-Team Championships, one Regional Championship and one World Championship would help to make being a champion much more elusive and would help to bring the prestige back to winning a title and being a champion. The back end of this is there would be even shorter reigns because there would be more people competing for only a few titles, so it could go either way. It's something I would like to see happen someday, and it's time titles meant something in the WWE again!

 

[WrestlingHistorian]

I am just wondering would you guys feel if there was only one world champ. One of every champ. Would it increase interest in WWE or decrease? Also is WWE just as bad as boxing with no legit World Champion?

While both champions are technicaly "World" Champions, the WWE title is supposed to represent being the champion of the WWE while the World's Heavyweight Championship is supposed to be the champion of the world, meaning thats the title thats supposed to travel continent to continent being defended, but yeah, that does not happen anymore in WWE.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

People complain about too many Championships, for the same reason they complain about the Brand Extention.. because it's something that isn't like the old times. And they don't want to adjust to it.

Fact is, Smackdown and Raw share the same amount of titles. (Heavyweight, Mid-Card, Tag, Women) E.C.W. has just one title, as they're a smaller brand and an hour less. It's as if each show was unto themselves, and it works best that way.

Championships aren't like they were in yesteryear, as everyone seems to win them. But face facts people, Wrestling isn't like it was yesteryear, as everyone is different. Times change, as does the industry.

I think the only two titles that don't need duplicates are the Tag Team's and the Women's. Are there aren't enough team's and diva's to go around as meaningful Champions. At least there is a ton of mid-carders to be worthy Champions.

 

[figocantos]

just a crazy idea to follow the tag-team champs to float from show to show, it can be used as a loop hole to jump from one brand to another, using the tag-titles as ships...

 

[JuviJuiceIsLoose]

The WWE should definitely unify the Tag Team Championships. There aren't enough teams to justify having 2 championships anymore. There are only about 4 teams in the entire company. After a possible Unification match at Wrestlemania, what's gonna happen??? How many times can you see Miz and Morrison feuding with Cryme Tyme???

I can go either way when it comes to the Women's Titles. There are a lot of Divas in the WWE, so you can justify having two Women's Titles. It looks like from Raw that Melina and Maryse are gonna have a feud, so maybe those titles will be unified along with the Tag Team Championships.

I think they should keep the U.S. and I.C. Championships. There are a lot of wrestlers in the Mid Card to justify having them. The key is they have to be defended on PPV regularly and there should be good feuds over them.

Just on Raw you can have Punk feud with someone like Mysterio, Kofi, Regal, Mike Knox, and Evan Bourne when he returns. You can even put him in a feud with someone from Legacy. I think I feud with Punk and Dibiase or Rhodes would be really good.

There are enough mid carders on Smackdown to make the U.S. title worth keeping. Shelton Benjamin could easily feud with just about anyone on the show for the belt. Beside the feud with M.V.P., I could see feuds for the title with R-Truth, Brian Kendrick, Mr. Kennedy, Chavo Guerrero, and if his injury isn't too serious Umaga.

They definitely need to keep the WWE title and the World Heavyweight Title. There are a ton of Main Eventers in the WWE right now. It's ridiculous the amount of people that could be in a feud for a World Title. I could see how having 2 World Titles is confusing and diminishes the value of them as well.

It'll definitely be interesting to see what happens during the Draft, and how the Title pictures will come about.

The only titles that need to be unified for sure are the Tag Team Titles, and maybe the Women's and Divas championships. Other than that, leave it like it is.

 

[JETER123]

The WWE should end the Brand Extension and keep only these titles:

WWE Championship (Insert the word "World" back into it)
Intercontinental Championship
World Tag Team Championships
Women's Championship
ECW Championship (Turn it into a harcore title)

That's it.

That's a lot of championships already for a company.

These titles aren't needed:

World Heavyweight Championship
United States Championship
Diva's Championship
WWE Tag Team Championship


It just doesn't make sense to have duplicate championships. How is the World Champion suppose to be credible when there is another one wrestling on Friday Nights saying the same things? With about 8 working diva's in the company, why the hell should there be two championships?? With about 5 legitimate tag teams, there is absolutely no point to have two sets of belts.


It's just obvious. People don't realize that the start of the WWE's downfall was after WrestleMania 18 in 2002. That was the exact moment the Brand Extension started. Now instead of seeing your favorite wrestlers twice a week, you now see them once a week. Instead of seeing a feud develop on 2 shows per week and 8 shows per month, the feud is crammed in on a total of 4 shows and then they resolve on the PPV. Title reigns meant more when you'd see the champion on both Raw and Smackdown! every week overcoming odds left and right.

The WWE died when it became seperate shows.

And on a sidenote, the WWE doesn't create cool gimmicks or bizarre characters anymore. (With the exception of Kizarny, who isn't cool regardless.)

Every guy that debuts now has a normal name, and it's boring.

Ricky Ortiz
Tyson Kidd
Jack Swagger
DJ Gabriel
Gavin Spears
Braden Walker
Ezekiel Jackson
Ryan Braddock
Vladimir Kozlov
Curt Hawkins
Zach Rider
Dolph Ziggler
Mike Knox


What happened to completely fictional names like:

Big Show
Edge
Sting
Undertaker
Kane
Goldust
X-Pac
The Rock
Stone Cold (I know it's Steve Austin, but still)
Triple H (Hunter Hearst Helmsley wasn't good enough)
CM Punk

 

[Budro5454]

I agree with you that there are two many titles. The tag titles and Intercontinental/U.S. Titles are worth nothing because the story lines and lack of PPV expose devalued them. If you watch the documentaries, they always say "He was the I-C champ... back when it actually ment something." The Brand Extension was brought about to create competition... but nobody see's the competition because the WWE logo is visible in virtually everywhere you look (just incase we get retarted instantly and forget what show were watching).

Bottomline I agree

 

[MikeKillam]

The problem is not the amount of titles, it's who is allowed to challenge for them. I actually would like to see the Cruiserweight Title brought back, and the ECW Tag Titles brought back as well. But this would only work if the brand divisions went back to normal and the titles actually meant something.
ECW needs more talent, and the wrestlers need to stop going back and forth. Make the fact that your a Raw champion mean something.

 

[ricster]

i agree we could use less titles at the same time let's defend the titles that are part of the brands ie woman's diva's when will wwe quit using the spinner it's getting annoining i want either a new design or go back to the undisputed version2 same goes for the world or thewcw title either add something new ie color or just get a belt that says smackdown world heavy weight champion if the belt goes to raw then call it raw heavyweight champion and the ecw belt could use some color to it instead of the silver i guess wwe is getting so cheap it must use all silver for the ecw belt and as far as the tag belts i almost fell asleep watching miz/moronsin versus the colon brothers as the moron moronsin called carlito&primo thematch was the second one within 2 weeks i dont want to see cryme time vs moronsin/miz 5000 times just have one belt so that way wecan have better feuds
and add the cruserweight to ecw or tv so that way once ecw becomes two hours we'll have more then one belt i think killing the us /ic may be ok in the short term long term maybe lot of good wrestlers ie mysterio,kingston ,punk would get lost in the shuffle i'm afraid to say but mysterio's career should be more then fighting knox or kane every week knox should be wwe champ hopefully soon same as kane least aint the same old boring champ different week

 

[Jon422002]

i think there needs to be less championships in wwe. At the moment i think wwe needs to look at this because the other titles they added (us title,World tag title,world champion) were added because of the brand extension. But now most of the superstars are appearing on each others shows so i dont see the point of those titles up for grabs. also When i first started watching wrestling in 1991 there was WWF Title, Intercontental and Tag Team Titles and I think these worked really effectively and if that title was won it meant something but now i think with the overflowing of titles in wwe they dont mean as much. Growing up my favourite title was the intercontiental championship because the people that held it were great wrestlers (Mr Perfect,Bret Hart etc) and there was a real anticipation to see the match the intercontiental match on ppv and when i was a kid those matches always meant more to me than the wwf title match!!!. If i was running wwe i would have the following titles:

WWE TITLE
WWE INTERCONTIENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP
WWE TAG TEAM TITLES
WOMENS CHAMPIONSHIP
Some kind of x division/cruiserweight title

some of you might say that isnt enough titles in that list and that there needs to be a WWE TITLE and a WORLD TITLE becase there are so many main eventers now which is a vaild point but think back to the late 1990's wen triple h, mankind,the rock,steve austin,big show and others were chashing the wwf title they all couldnt be champ but it created some great television and some unpredicabillity which is so lacking in wrestling today.

thanks

jon

 

[Rated R SuperFan]

I am on the fence on this issue on one side I feel that as long as they have 3 brands they need all the titles to make the shows worth watching but if your going to have 3 brands make the stars brand exclusive and every once in a while makes matches where the loser of switches brands or the title in the match switches brands or something along those lines . On The other hand if WWE discontinued the 3 brand format they should unify the belts and go with the fallowing belts

World Heavyweight Championship
Intercontinental Championship
World Tag Team Championship
Woman's Championship
World Cruiserweight Championship

 

[Why Always Me]

One belt for each division (with amended designs)

Main Eventers - WWE Championship (Modelled off the attitude era WWF Title belt that The Rock won at Survivor Series 98, it had a slightly bigger centre piece, but with a name plate and the colours of the Undisputed Title)

Upper Mid Carders - WWE Intercontinental Championship (Modelled off the classic IC belt, but with the oval shape of the current belt, but the size of the classic belt if that makes any sense)

Tag Teams - WWE Tag Team Championship (No Unified Crap in the name, not needed - losely modelled from the attitude era but with the colourings and layout of the Raw tag team belts)

Lower Mid Carders - WWE Television Championship (Modelled off the European Title which was a kick ass design with the WCW TV title rules, time limits etc)

Hardcore/Extreme - WWE Hardcore Championship (Get rid of the pg rating, take a hammer to the current ECW title like they did to the winged eagle belt and make that your new Hardcore belt)

Cruiserweights - WWE Cruiserweight Championship (Modelled off the WWF Light Heavyweight title, I liked the belt for some reason)

Divas - WWE Women's Championship (Same design as the current Womens belt with the colour scheme of the Divas belt)

Damn the WWE shud hire me

 

[WorldHeavyweightChampion]

While both champions are technicaly "World" Champions, the WWE title is supposed to represent being the champion of the WWE while the World's Heavyweight Championship is supposed to be the champion of the world, meaning thats the title thats supposed to travel continent to continent being defended, but yeah, that does not happen anymore in WWE.

My point exactly!

If I had the choice of being 'champion of the WWE' (just a wrestling promotion), or being the 'Heavyweight Champion of the World' (the entire planet), I mean anyone in their right mind would want to be called the WORLD Heavyweight Champion!

True, they don't have the World Heavyweight Title defended all over the world the way the NWA did from the early 40's until about 1990, but same principle.

The WWE Title means you're champion of your promotion, whereas being the World Heavyweight Champion means you're top dog on this planet. In that case, there isn't a real need to unify them because they are, in essence, two different titles.

 

[WorldHeavyweightChampion]

I am on the fence on this issue on one side I feel that as long as they have 3 brands they need all the titles to make the shows worth watching but if your going to have 3 brands make the stars brand exclusive and every once in a while makes matches where the loser of switches brands or the title in the match switches brands or something along those lines . On The other hand if WWE discontinued the 3 brand format they should unify the belts and go with the fallowing belts

World Heavyweight Championship
Intercontinental Championship
World Tag Team Championship
Woman's Championship
World Cruiserweight Championship

I agree 100% with you on keeping THESE titles. The only exception being I'm kinda partial to the United States Heavyweight Title over the IC Title, but you still hit the nail on the head.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Less championships isn't going to solve anything. You have enough contenders for each championship as it is.

US: Kofi, Miz, Swagger, Bourne, Primo, Carlito

IC: Mysterio, Zigger, R-Truth, Knox, Hardy whenever he gets back

The WWE Title will be fine once Batista and HBK return and the same goes for the WHC when Undertaker comes back. Morrison has done nicely so he will be a main event fixture for a while and Edge coming back will add one more.

You have Maryse, Mickie, Gail Kim, and Kelly Kelly in the Diva's Title hunt and I would add one more diva to the Women's Title Hunt and everything will be fine. It's good the way it is right now because most of your top superstars are injured and them coming back are more names to add.