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Lacey von Erich's bladder should become an integral part of her character.

The Doctor

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With the recent apparent tension between the Beautiful People, I have been thinking. If the Beautiful People were to split up, I fear Lacey von Erich would be lost in the shuffle. She's really not that great in the ring, and all she is is a pretty face (and killer body). I don't really want this to happen. I see a lot of potential in her, so I've been thinking about things she could do to stay interesting.

A while ago on iMPACT, there was a segment in which Lacey von Erich drank too much, and really needed to use the toilet, which led to her discovering Chelsea and Desmond's evil plot. At the time, it was...well, it was pretty stupid. Cartoony. I'm all for cartoony plots but that was just silly. However, I think I've found a way to make that into something...well, fun. Entertaining. Something that would keep her relevant.

Basically, she would be shown in every promo with a bottle of water that she drinks. at other times she could be trying to hurry up promos in order to use the toilet. She could interrupt other peoples' promos, running around and trying to find a bathroom. but the most important part of her gimmick would probably be her matches.

Basically, she becomes dominant. Because of her nerves and love of water, she needs to finish her matches as quickly as possible in order to get to the bathroom. They become squashes. Of course, she'll have to improve in the ring for this to work, but it could work.

She could even win the championship, and in order to make the title defenses on PPV good matches, she could have a mock-Goldberg entrance with her bursting out of the bathroom and then she and her opponent could have a good ten-fifteen minute match.

"But Doc," you say, "This is a stupid gimmick, a comedy gimmick!". to that I say, "What's so bad about that?". As much as the IWC would like it, wrestling can't be high-drama, high-seriousness all the time. We would get tired out. Every form of media is like this. Even Shakespeare juxtaposed the serious murder scenes in Macbeth with the humorous doorman scene. It causes the audience to lighten up a bit so they don't get tired out. The Knockout's division is in shambles anyway, and people don't really give a shit about women's wrestling in general, so you might as well use it for some good.

It would be fun and a good way to add some comedy that's actually funny. I'd enjoy it.
 
You want Lacey Von Erich to adopt a gimmick where she needs to piss lots? Way to kill any attraction I had to her. This is a terrible idea, a terrible, terrible idea. In fact after reading this I think might hate you, a person I have never met. There is a huge difference between not having every segment be super serious and having things be down right ridiculous. Kevin Nash putting the moves on Tessmacher last week, that was funny. Lacey needing to piss lots? That's sounds like some creepy fetish of Ed Ferrara's. No way, do I want to see this.
 
Even though this is a comedy gimmick, I like it. It's a way to make Lacey von Erich dominant, without it coming out of nowhere. It wouldn't be believable if she became Awesome Kong-esque for no reason, but if she has to use the bathroom... then she has to end the match quick so she could absolutely dominate her opponent. TNA could mess something like this up though, they could use it to harm her... "Oh lets have her get counted out because she has to use the bathroom"... but I like the idea.
 
Doc.... You know I love you, right? You're my bro, and usually, most of your ideas are spot on about the biz. This is perhaps the worst idea I've ever heard for a character. Yes, I get that it's a comedy gimmick, and we've all been in a position where we've had to take a leak really badly. That said, this is way too gimmicky, even by Russo's standards. First of all, you'd literally be crushing one of the better parts of your organization, the Knockouts, by having someone who clearly needs medical attention squashing the rest of her opponents. Say what you will, but the Knockouts are a draw; telling me someone can flick on a switch and become Goldberg reincarnate because they can't control their bladder just isn't a good idea. You eventually kill the character, as it just becomes good for about a month, and then she has nowhere to go, and you've killed off an entire division, just for a laugh or two. Second, TNA is supposedly "adult" entertainment. I'm sorrry, but pee and potty jokes really bring me back more to Rugrats, not Professional Wrestling. I'm all for the idea of risque telecvision, but urine is neither risque nor goos television.

Brotha, I love ya.... But just no.
 
While the first time was slightly ammusing considering where it went, if they had her do something like this all the time it would make her the most useless knockout in the history of TNA....and I sat through the Survivor girl. While I'm all for Lacey having something to do, it would be best for her to become a manager for a dominant tag team and adopt a Francine-esque roll to where she is the sex pot but isn't afraid to take a bump of two if it helps her man (or men) get the win.
 
Lacey von Erich should be making things drop other than piss if you catch my meaning. Anyways, I really wouldn't look much into this bathroom gimmick. It doesn't make much sense in both a wrestling and comedy way. She is already a "dumb" blonde who gets some laughs by some of the stuff she says. Why take it any further? Like Schizophrenic, make Lacey a manager like Francine where she can act her role and help out someone to win a few matches. Again, Lacey should probably avoid the ring and just be the eye candy she was put in TNA to be in the first place.
 
Oh dear god, man, you can't be serious? A piss gimmick? She has to piss, so she has to rush through her matches? I don't even think the WWE would give Santino something this monumentally bad, man.

Her gimmick is already there – dumb blonde. What else do you need?

Next we'll have Amazing Red having to rush through his X matches because he has IBS? LOL.

No thanks, man – leave the piss in the toilet, where it belongs.
 
Fantatstic idea. If the BP break up, she'll just become attractive blonde X. Possibly valeting for, uhh, Flair or someone. Yeah, who cares about that?

Obviously the KO division has been shit for awhile now. This'd at least be something entertaining for it. Better than Angelina Love coming out and screaming at people for 15 minutes every week.

Great idea, great title, all round fantastic effort Doc. You should look into being on TNA's creative team.
 
This might be most warped idea I've ever heard. Frankly, I wouldn't even be surprised if TNA implemented it. But it's totally ridiculous. I have to say it kind of intrigues me :shrug:

Also, would Lacey be Larry David from Curb Your Enthusiasm? :p
 
You know... I actually thought about it.... What's so bad about the gimmick?

Look, Vince Russo has shown in the past that he doesn't give a damn about Woman's Wrestling, and sees it as a joke division. Hell, The Knockouts aren't nearly as good as they used to be... What's the harm in this? Are we that severely tied to the Lacey character that we can't have her looking a smidge foolish. We all talk about how much we hate her on these forums, so what's the problem. I thought at first that this would kill the Knockouts, but really, what's left to kill. Sarita and Taylor rarely ever mean fuck all to TNA, and with the Beautiful People breaking up, there's really no need for The Knockouts to be cared about. When they break up, TNA needs something to pay attention to The Knockouts. And say what you will, but this will drum attention at the least.

I'm gonna go switch my opinion up, and in the end, who does this really hurt?
 
You know... I actually thought about it.... What's so bad about the gimmick?

Look, Vince Russo has shown in the past that he doesn't give a damn about Woman's Wrestling, and sees it as a joke division. Hell, The Knockouts aren't nearly as good as they used to be... What's the harm in this? Are we that severely tied to the Lacey character that we can't have her looking a smidge foolish. We all talk about how much we hate her on these forums, so what's the problem. I thought at first that this would kill the Knockouts, but really, what's left to kill. Sarita and Taylor rarely ever mean fuck all to TNA, and with the Beautiful People breaking up, there's really no need for The Knockouts to be cared about. When they break up, TNA needs something to pay attention to The Knockouts. And say what you will, but this will drum attention at the least.

I'm gonna go switch my opinion up, and in the end, who does this really hurt?

Uh, Lacey, who might otherwise have been able to go on to have a moderately successful career in pro-wrestling without having to be remembered as the "piss girl"? Yeah, I'm gonna go with Lacey, who might otherwise have been able to go on to have a moderately successful career in pro-wrestling without having to be remembered as the "piss girl".

Who cares about people caring about the division or not? People obviously tune in to see tits and ass, so why start factoring in things that could potentially turn people off to that?

I dunno about you, but I don't hate Von Erich at all. I love her, in fact. I think she's gorgeous and plays the "bimbo" role fantastically. She's nothing to write home about in the ring, but again, women's wrestling is quite boring on it's own – I'm not concerned with seeing proper technical spots as much as I am implants ready to fall out on the drop of a dime.
 
Uh, Lacey, who might otherwise have been able to go on to have a moderately successful career in pro-wrestling without having to be remembered as the "piss girl"? Yeah, I'm gonna go with Lacey, who might otherwise have been able to go on to have a moderately successful career in pro-wrestling without having to be remembered as the "piss girl".

Molly Holly had the big ass. That brought her to a Woman's Title. Mae Young gave birth to a hand. She was more popular than ever. Chyna was that girl with a penis. Wait, I'm sorry, she never played that role

Who cares about people caring about the division or not? People obviously tune in to see tits and ass, so why start factoring in things that could potentially turn people off to that?

Everybody poops, everybody pees, blah blah blah. In a way, it could be a really honest and mature look at women, and how even though they may seem perfect, they perform the same bodily functions men do. Pedestal, meet the knocker offer.

I dunno about you, but I don't hate Von Erich at all. I love her, in fact. I think she's gorgeous and plays the "bimbo" role fantastically. She's nothing to write home about in the ring, but again, women's wrestling is quite boring on it's own –*I'm not concerned with seeing proper technical spots as much as I am implants ready to fall out on the drop of a dime.

She's still hot, you know. Just loves her water.
 
I think it would be funny as hell, but thats just me personally..

I know its childish, I know its "silly", I know its stupid, but I also know it would make me laugh..

Just because she has to take a piss doesn't mean she's any less attractive..

You all honestly can say you've NEVER dated that hot girl who you can't take a 5 minute car ride with because they have to pee every 15 minutes?
 
i like the idea, giving LVE a nice streak. TBP already have the tension, Sky, Rayne, and Love i can see going into a threeway dance for the title soon. leaving LVE outta the picture. you can even move her into just being a backstage interviewer for a few weeks, always stopping mid-segment to run to the bathroom
 
Molly Holly had the big ass. That brought her to a Woman's Title. Mae Young gave birth to a hand. She was more popular than ever. Chyna was that girl with a penis. Wait, I'm sorry, she never played that role

Mae Young gave birth to a hand decades after she wrestled, and I haven't met a fan of that type of angle yet, unless you're standing tall, yeah?

Chyna was a girl with a penis after she did a porno, not while she was a wrestler, and a big ass is not the same as a bimbo with a bladder problem – not even close.

Everybody poops, everybody pees, blah blah blah. In a way, it could be a really honest and mature look at women, and how even though they may seem perfect, they perform the same bodily functions men do. Pedestal, meet the knocker offer.

I don't care – doesn't mean I want to witness just how often they have to in the ring I watch on a weekly basis.

You want to put social hypocrisies and inadequacies under a microscope – by all means – just don't sit here pretending that an angle that forces a character to act as though she has an over-active bladder is the way to do so. It isn't, at least no more so than having someone drop a stuttering gimmick as proof that those who actually suffer from one can do the same in the same vein.

She's still hot, you know. Just loves her water.

I don't know, and I don't care to. This is a terrible idea.
 
You know... I actually thought about it.... What's so bad about the gimmick?

Look, Vince Russo has shown in the past that he doesn't give a damn about Woman's Wrestling, and sees it as a joke division. Hell, The Knockouts aren't nearly as good as they used to be... What's the harm in this? Are we that severely tied to the Lacey character that we can't have her looking a smidge foolish. We all talk about how much we hate her on these forums, so what's the problem. I thought at first that this would kill the Knockouts, but really, what's left to kill. Sarita and Taylor rarely ever mean fuck all to TNA, and with the Beautiful People breaking up, there's really no need for The Knockouts to be cared about. When they break up, TNA needs something to pay attention to The Knockouts. And say what you will, but this will drum attention at the least.

I'm gonna go switch my opinion up, and in the end, who does this really hurt?

It would hurt Lacey Von Erich in the long term.
She has a good future, is the 2nd most attractive women on Television (behind Velvet Sky) and this gimmick would kill her stature as a woman of every man's desire.
I mean consider this,
If in 2011, Playboy announce that they are doing a first TNA Knockout Covershot with Lacey Von Erich, most people would still see it, but in the end they'd go 'Ye but she was such a pissing fool, during 2010, YUCK!LOL!OMG (and other idiotic twiterry words)'
All that publicity that this would garner would be crushed when all the media (coz you know they will focus on this) call her 'ravishing but a with a little bladder problem'
hahaha *insert generic TV host/hostess smirk here*

It would kill her character as the Beautiful Blonde Bombshell.
She's Triple B man, and she has a great future if she can tune up the ring work
 
Mae Young gave birth to a hand decades after she wrestled, and I haven't met a fan of that type of angle yet, unless you're standing tall, yeah?

I was just curious why Mae Young didn't give birth to a Mulatto Angle. Even then, it can't be denied; Before the birth, no one knew who Mae Young was. After the birth, she was a regular running gag people loved in the WWE.

Chyna was a girl with a penis after she did a porno, not while she was a wrestler, and a big ass is not the same as a bimbo with a bladder problem – not even close.

It's pretty much the same thing. Laugh about deformities, and make fun of what makes people different. That's how the world goes round, really.

I don't care – doesn't mean I want to witness just how often they have to in the ring I watch on a weekly basis.

You want to put social hypocrisies and inadequacies under a microscope – by all means – just don't sit here pretending that an angle that forces a character to act as though she has an over-active bladder is the way to do so. It isn't, at least no more so than having someone drop a stuttering gimmick as proof that those who actually suffer from one can do the same in the same vein.

Heh, Bubba Ray had a stuttering problem for a long time, too. It was the most over he'd been in his entire career.

Let's face it, sometimes it's ok to laugh at people's deformities. It's like genocide, only less vicious.

I don't know, and I don't care to. This is a terrible idea.

I still like it. It gives Lacey something to do after TBP, which she's in dire need of, because otherwise, she will be lost in the shuffle
 
I dont really like it. I think lacey needs to just become a powerhouse who attacks people from behind. She just needs to become a powerhouse. She shouldnt have to resort to some gimmick where she needs to pee a lot.
 
I was just curious why Mae Young didn't give birth to a Mulatto Angle. Even then, it can't be denied; Before the birth, no one knew who Mae Young was. After the birth, she was a regular running gag people loved in the WWE.

LOL. I hated it, man. I knew who Mae Young was before then, and I thought (though it was gross) that she was doing fine with the gag humor of kissing other wrestlers in the company at the time. The birth of the hand went too far, though, if you ask me – same as JR's colonoscopy. Some things just aren't funny. Those two are classic cases of that.

It's pretty much the same thing. Laugh about deformities, and make fun of what makes people different. That's how the world goes round, really.

I suppose, but again, it depends on how far it goes. This LVE piss angle isn't nearly as gross as Young giving birth to a hand, but I do think it's equally as stupid and childish.

Heh, Bubba Ray had a stuttering problem for a long time, too. It was the most over he'd been in his entire career.

Let's face it, sometimes it's ok to laugh at people's deformities. It's like genocide, only less vicious.

Eh, that's debatable – I don't recall Bubba ever having a stutter in ECW, and I'd say he was pretty damn over there – same goes for TNA. Not as many people to cheer in either company, but equally as "over" if you level the playing ground.

I still like it. It gives Lacey something to do after TBP, which she's in dire need of, because otherwise, she will be lost in the shuffle

She's still relatively new to TNA – I think she'd make a fine valet for someone if she's not interested in continuing her actual wrestling career, just as being a backstage interviewer worked for Christy Hemme.
 
I love how heated an attractive blonde alluding to the fact that she actually uses the bathroom makes some guys who are attracted to her. . .and by "love", I mean I find it a little odd and mildly amusing.

My opinion might be skewed due to the fact that I couldn't really care any less than I do about Lacey Von Erich (I am a bit confused as to why she's employed), but I honestly think this would be absolutely hilarious. It would also make me give a damn about Von Erich as an in ring worker, because I'd expect something somewhat entertaining from her. The gimmick could have quite a bit of mileage if booked correctly too, but it would probably making the knockouts looks a little bad being squashed by Von Erich. That's my only beef with it.

Having Lacey Von Erich holding a championship belt, or even winning a match, would mean that the division is officially in the toilet and that there is absolutely no hope for it to be reconciled anytime soon. That's probably true now, but I'm refusing to acknowledge it just yet.
 
No offense but this is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. To be honest, I can't even fathom the fact that somebody actually took the time to come up with this.

I'm guessing you have a pissing fetish or something and really enjoyed the segment of her on the toilet or something because I really don't see how this is good gimmick whatsoever.

This rivals Mae Young giving birth to a rubber glove that was supposedly Mark Henry's.

Sometimes I sit and think to myself...if these are the ideas people are coming up with...the sky's the limit for me! I send WWE or TNA my resume pronto. lol
 
Going with Tenta's 2nd post and saying "Why not?"

The KO division is almost dead and LvE will have nothing if the BP break up. This is one of those cases where you throw something against a wall and see if it sticks.
 
Doc, that's actually funny up until she starts beating the top knockouts with it. I mean, running out of the bathroom to run in the ring and destroy people? It's one thing if you take the joke far enough to where she destroys terrible knockouts because she has to piss. But after she starts beating good knockouts and it starts with her running out of the can it just gets kinda stupid. It would come off as her getting her motivation from taking a piss and that's just all kinds of off putting...
 
This sounds like a terrible idea, in my opinion. I can only imagine where it would have to go during the match she drops the championship . . . yuck.
 
I am on the "one of the worst ideas ever" bus for this one. It is pretty terrible on its own but then she is for some reason dominating the entire KO division. Maybe if the division was as bad as the divas then I could see the why not arguments but seriously this would bury the entire KO division to all-time lows for womens wrestling. How is that possibly a good idea? Especially when Lacey is the worst worker they have. The KOs may not be what they once were but they deserve better than this. I tend to view the Lacey character as a parody of the divas and think she does great with it. So maybe they should have Eve adopt this gimmick unless potty is not PG. Beth Phoenix could come back and load up on burritos for extra "motivation" to finally defeat eve "r clear" (wwe dropped pg and added an interracial relationship with r-truth who raps about his potty hotty). Then of course Beth literally shits on the title during her celebration which no one cares about anyway because it has metaphorically been going on for the whole piss hulk queen storyline.
 

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