KB Answers Wrestling Questions

[It's...Baylariat!]

How does the WWE get away with claiming the NWA's World Heavyweight title legacy? I know they bought WCW and Jim Crockett Promotions library, but that doesn't mean the WHC that Cena's wearing is the same one that was worn by Race, Funk, Gotch, Hackenschmidt, Christian, and R-Truth?

 

[klunderbunker]

They claim it is. That belt that Cena is wearing has the a lineage of about 11 years. The only thing it has to do with the NWA Title is the design of the belt. Based on that, the NWA Virginia Title holds the same lineage as the Intercontinental Title since it's a replica of the 80s IC Titl.

They can get away with it because there's really no one to argue with them.

 

[Remix]

They claim it is. That belt that Cena is wearing has the a lineage of about 11 years. The only thing it has to do with the NWA Title is the design of the belt. Based on that, the NWA Virginia Title holds the same lineage as the Intercontinental Title since it's a replica of the 80s IC Titl.

They can get away with it because there's really no one to argue with them.

Isn't their argument that the WHC has the lineage of the WCW title, which itself (claimed it) had the lineage of the NWA title?

Also, since when has anybody expected wrestling promotions, especially WWE to be honest?

 

[Cereal Killer]

Different kinds of draws so you can barely compare them.

In which way?

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Can you explain to me where Ryback is dangerous in the ring? Besides hurting Punk in a table spot a few weeks ago, he uses the same style power moves of many guys his size. I know it has more to do with execution, I'm just not sure where it's happening.

 

[The Fabulous Rougeau's]

Could the Survivor Series benefit from a return to not only featuring a traditional main event match, but one in which something of substance is on the line as it was back in 2001 and 2004?

 

[klunderbunker]

Isn't their argument that the WHC has the lineage of the WCW title, which itself (claimed it) had the lineage of the NWA title?

Also, since when has anybody expected wrestling promotions, especially WWE to be honest?

They can REALLY stretch and make a case for having the same lineage as the WCW Title (started in 1991) but the NWA Title is a completely separate entity.

No one, but it's annoying for those of us that know the way it actually works.

In which way?

Bruno stayed in one territory while Andre never stayed long. The fans would come and see Andre when he was on tour because they didn't get to all that often. Bruno sold out MSG all the time, but it was to the same fans over and over which limited the amount of people he could reach. Andre had the entire country to draw. Two very different things.

Can you explain to me where Ryback is dangerous in the ring? Besides hurting Punk in a table spot a few weeks ago, he uses the same style power moves of many guys his size. I know it has more to do with execution, I'm just not sure where it's happening.

What you have to remember is wrestling moves are almost always done in tandem. It's both guys working together to try make the move seem realistic but also safe. If one guy does a move before the other is ready or without letting him know if something strange is coming (calling a spot), it could go badly.

Also there's the simple idea of being good at the moves. There's a technique to how to do any given move and Ryback simply isn't that good at them. Take a powerbomb for instance. You're supposed to lift someone up in the air and have them land as flat on their back as possible (the more of their body that hits the mat at the same time, the less the move actually hurts), but if Ryback pushes down on one side harder than the other, the guy taking the move is going to land at an angle, which can hurt their shoulder, back etc.

A specific example might be the Meat Hook. That's supposed to hit the neck/chest, but if Ryback goes too high with it then it could snap their head back or damage their face.

Could the Survivor Series benefit from a return to not only featuring a traditional main event match, but one in which something of substance is on the line as it was back in 2001 and 2004?

The on the line part is what's missing. When it's just for honor/bragging rights, there isn't much of a reason to watch. It can work (1987) but it's so rarely done.

 

[The Man They Call WMD]

Whose the wrestler Dixie claims is returning?

 

[klunderbunker]

My gut says Abyss but I'll probably say someone underwhelming.

Note that she said World Champion, not World Heavyweight Champion. That could be a tag champion, a TV Champion or even a Knockouts Champion.

 

[Барбоса]

Does Randy Orton's moveset, specifically the elevated DDT, snap powerslam and RKO, hold him back as a heel?

Personally, I do not think he does enough to differentiate his heel character from his face character and when I look at the likes of Luke Harper embracing his gimmick so much with facial expressions, moves and general demeanour, I think Orton equates rather poorly.

 

[klunderbunker]

I wouldn't go that far.

A lot of the time it's the way he goes about his offense that makes him more heelish. Notice the Orton Stomp coming back now that he's a heel.

As for those three, it's not so much the moves but how he acts afterwards. As a face he'd powerslam the guy then play to the crowd. Now he does it and glares at them. That makes it better.

 

[Барбоса]

What about the moves themselves? Is the RKO too well liked and elicits too much of a face pop to be a mega-heel's finisher?

 

[klunderbunker]

To a degree but changing Orton's finisher would be like putting Santa in plaid.

 

[Cereal Killer]

Who's wrestling do you think was the best out of Kurt Angle and Lou Thesz?

 

[klunderbunker]

Thesz was great, but Angle was literally the best in the world at it. I'd love to see it, though it would depend on the rules.

 

[Cereal Killer]

What would you name the era in wrestling in Frank Gotch's time, and what would you name the era from the 20's till the early 80's?

 

[klunderbunker]

We'll call them the Origin Days and Pioneer days respectively, though there's more than one era between the 20s and 80s.

 

[Cereal Killer]

What were they, and what was different about them?

 

[klunderbunker]

There really isn't a cutoff date for them.

The NWA World Title being established in 1948 is definitely the start of a new era though. We'll go from there to.....we'll say sometime in the early 70s as an era. The 70s to Hogan winning the title is another era.

For names, we'll go with the NWA Days and the Territory Days.

 

[#MrScissorsKick]

Do you think Vince regrets putting a world title on someone? If so, who?

 

[klunderbunker]

I doubt Vince thinks he's ever had a bad idea.

 

[The Fabulous Rougeau's]

It is obvious the last time WWE wasn't the top promotion in North America back when WCW was #1 from the latter half of 96 up until early 98. What was the most recent time before the one I just mentioned where WWE was not the top promotion?

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

Is there much of an argument against AMW being TNA's best tag team in the early years of TNA? Say, up to 06 or so?

 

[klunderbunker]

It is obvious the last time WWE wasn't the top promotion in North America back when WCW was #1 from the latter half of 96 up until early 98. What was the most recent time before the one I just mentioned where WWE was not the top promotion?

You could argue times in the early 90s but for a definitive answer, probably back in the 70s.

Is there much of an argument against AMW being TNA's best tag team in the early years of TNA? Say, up to 06 or so?

There isn't much of one against them being the best ever in TNA period.

 

[The Fabulous Rougeau's]

You could argue times in the early 90s but for a definitive answer, probably back in the 70s.

I assume for those dates in the early 90's the argument would be for WCW right? If so during what specific times could the case be made (no need to explain why, just curious as to the timeframe).

Also, were you satisfied with the Sting v Bret matches we got in WCW or could they have done more?