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So Triple H VS Lesnar in a submission match at Mania....yes, no, maybe, or you're just not a fan of this match for this feud?

The worst case of a wrestler, who was given chance after chance, but couldn't get over?
 
I've read that serveral past WCW stars (Hogan, Nash, Hall, Bischoff) blame Kellner's hatred of wrestling, WCW execs not wanting wrestling on Turner Broadcasting, and the dot com crash (AOL-Time Warner merge) as the reasons for WCW demise.

How much of that do you think is true (or is in fact true)? Do you feel they are trying to blame those things in order to not accept culpability?
 
1. Jamie Kellner didn't kill WCW. He put it out of its misery. The company was DONE in 2000 and by 2001 the rats were looking at the corpse and thinking they were too good for it. This idea that everything was going great and then Kellner said "no wrestling around here" is ridiculous. Think about it: Kellner was named the head of the biggest media organization in the history of ever at that point, but he was stupid enough to get rid of something that was making a fortune and drawing in huge numbers?

That makes no sense.

WCW was done by that point and was losing a fortune every week. Think about it like this: would you cancel the top drawing TV show on cable today? Of course not. Why kill off something when it's on fire? WCW was dead in the water when Kellner got into power. Look at the TV ratings, the PPV buys, and the general aura around WCW in 2000. The place was horrible and everyone knew it. They had gone WAY longer than WWF did in straight weeks losing (WWF lost from June of 1996 until April of 1998, or less than two years. WCW lost from November of 1998 until March of 2001. Also, WWF was usually about a point to a point and a half behind WCW. Nitro was getting double and at times nearly tripled in the ratings by Raw. Not only was it not close, it was laughably not close.) and above all else, WCW showed no signs of life at all.

Oh and they were so hot that they had 94 networks BEGGING to put them on.....but none of them did because no one but Vince was interested in buying a ratings juggernaut for $3 million. Again, common sense is your friend.

This idea that Kellner killed WCW is nonsense and always has been. It was dead long before he as in charge and pulled the plug on it.

2. If the .com industry was so terrible and killed wrestling, what the heck did I watch on Monday, because apparently it wasn't wrestling. Again, WWE currently has what, five shows on the air? it survived the .com crash and TNA started about 14 months after WCW went under. The wrestling industry was strong but WCW was weak.

3. WCW died because it was a bad wrestling product and people stopped watching it. It had issues ranging from having no answer at all other than "let's have the NWO stay on top another six months" to "let's give Hogan and Nash the title over and over again because even though people have turned the channel in droves every time they do it, they were HUGE six years ago so maybe it'll work again" to "let's make sure no young guys EVER get elevated" to "let's make Vince Russo and David Arquette world champion!" to "I've spent all this time fighting to become world champion so now I'll lay down because I want Hogan to have it, even though he didn't beat Goldberg and no one buys him as champion" to whatever other reason you can think of.

Another thing to keep in mind: as far as mass appeal, WCW was clearly on top for about two years. The WWF was clearly on top for about the rest of time starting with the day Hogan won the world title. WCW had one insanely hot storyline and that's about it. Other than that, they were competitive at best and occasionally on top for a few flashes of time. Quality aside, they were never more popular than the WWF for long stretches.

But yeah, one day some guy came in and said "no more WCW" and that was it. Everything was going along great until then. Yep, it was all fine.
 
I kind of figured it was that, but since I'm probably one of the few that barely watched WCW (only a few months is 96, very sporadic in 97 and kind of stopped all together after Starrcade 97 only a few shows every couple of months), I was just curious. Because I never cared for WCW, I just didn't know what was going on until it was purchased, and well you read all this stuff on the internet, but I felt like Bischoff, Hogan, Nash, Russo, Hall, etc. never want to accept the blame for destroying WCW and are always trying to justify their decisions (such as the Fingerpoke of Doom).

Speaking of Starrcade 97, how bad was that show booked? Seriously, that should have been the end of the NWO because I remember Sting was red hot that year and Bret had just signed. End NWO, Hogan goes on vacation, Sting feuds with Bret and/or Hall and Nash for the next year.
 
Yeah of course it would have been. If Bret isn't screwed, there's no idiocy at Starrcade 1997 and then who knows where it goes?
 
favorite trish photo?
find it funny that austin and rock were the last 2 at SS 01?

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Good place to start.

I would have been stunned if it had been anyone else.
 
well,i guess the storyline was more about vince,shane and stephanie and vince's way of killing wcw for good.

Indeed. Notice the makeup of the Alliance team at Survivor Series:

Austin - One of the biggest WWF stars ever
Angle - Only ever wrestled for WWF
Shane McMahon - Heir to the WWF throne
Booker T - WCW guy
RVD - ECW guy

In other words, 60% of the Alliance was made up of WWF guys. That sums things up pretty easily.
 
Were you a fan of the frequent title changes that happened in the WWF from around 1999-2001?

It felt like the titles were changing hands every month, if not more so in the case of the Tag Team and IC titles.
 
Were you a fan of the frequent title changes that happened in the WWF from around 1999-2001?

It felt like the titles were changing hands every month, if not more so in the case of the Tag Team and IC titles.

I literally just finished a mini rant about why the IC Title feuds in 1999 were stupid.

As for the world title, not so much because the matches were great and they made the title look like it meant something. WHen you have matches people want to see and people talking about how important the title is, it makes the belt stronger. When you have a feud with the title there as a reason for people to fight, it doesn't mean much.
 
More overrated, Jericho or Edge?
Does Christian belong in the hall of fame?
There's no way Orton can be a heel as long as he still has the RKO as his finisher, right?
 
Following on from your reply to the poster above about Christian not really belonging in the hall of fame...

What are your thoughts on Eddie Guerrero being in there?

Christian and Eddie spent vast portions of their careers in the mid-card, both have been incredibly popular with fans and eventually climbed to the top and won the title after noone really thought they would. Both have had plenty of great matches (Christian more so in my mind, although I love Eddie's work).

Why should Eddie be in and Christian not? (I personally think both should be)
 
I did a series of posts on my site about this recently.

I don't think Eddie belongs in the Hall of Fame. I have some friends that I can talk wrestling with and never once, literally not once, did I hear about how great Eddie was until after he died. Not even when he was champion.

I'd put Christian in over Eddie, but neither would be people I would induct immediately.
 
I did a series of posts on my site about this recently.

I don't think Eddie belongs in the Hall of Fame. I have some friends that I can talk wrestling with and never once, literally not once, did I hear about how great Eddie was until after he died. Not even when he was champion.

I'd put Christian in over Eddie, but neither would be people I would induct immediately.
Chris Benoit was the greatest technical professional wrestler in the history of ever. I didn't know this until he murdered his wife and son.
 

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