klunderbunker
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Pros: appeal to new, younger viewers that could be fans for years.
Cons: turn off the older fans who have money.
Cons: turn off the older fans who have money.
KB Answers Wrestling Questions
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The_Misson
Occasional Pre-Show
All time favorite traditional Survivor Series match?
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
Probably Hogan's team vs. DiBiase's team in 89, just because of the awesomeness that was Hogan's team.
Thriller Ant
Beep Bop Boop
I just saw this on a different site about the chemistry between Warrior and Rude, which I know you've said that you didn't get.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Mr Ferguson
Dark Match Jobber
Wrong.
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
I'm not entirely sure about that. Not saying it's wrong, but I'm not sure if I'd call Rude a stiff guy on offense, at least not in their more famous matches. Later in his career, such as the cage match in 1990 he was, but in the 89 I'm not so sure.
Man, that's like.......deep.
Martin Gabriel
Pre-Show Stalwart
What are your predictions for WrestleMania?
Mr Ferguson
Dark Match Jobber
Orton over Kane
Sheamus over Bryan
Team Ace over Team Long
Big Show over Rhodes
Punk over Jericho
Undertaker over Triple H
Cena over The Rock
Many thanks, MR Ferguson
Johnny Scumm
InZayn In The Membrane
This isn't a Thread for you to answer questions. It's a thread for kb to answer questions, hence its name "KB Answers Wrestling Questions". Which leads me to my question;
Tag Team Title Match at Wrestlemania. It's not happening right? I'd assume maybe Ziggler/Swagger win the the night after on Raw.
The_Misson
Occasional Pre-Show
What's your opinion on WWE possibly doing an all cruiser weight show/brand?
Muffin Top Merkley
Be a man!
Do you think that the WWE aired the video package for the returning Albert as planned, or do you think that they aired it when they did because the news had already started to break?
I can't wait to hear who you think it is.
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
No need for it at all.
There's going to be a surprise in there somewhere, but I'm not sure what. Cena and Taker will win for sure, and I think Sheamus wins the title. Other than that, Orton over Kane I think, Team Ace will win because as Norcal said somewhere, Teddy Long ain't running Raw. Unfortunately Cody loses the titlle. I'll go with a long shot and say Jericho takes it from Punk, probably with a quick title change coming later.
Hopefully. Primo and Epico bore me to death.
As planned.
Tommy Dreamer... duh
If the WWE got genuine celebrity fans to just do a little locker room cameo, a high five or quick quip about some opponent at a PPV or something, would you have a problem with that? Not as a guest host though. Like Michael Clarke Duncan (if he is/were a genuine fan) in a short quip with Rocky or something.
klunderbunker
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So now we come to the hard part and probably the feature attraction here: the final thoughts on ECW. Now its no secret that I was never a fan of the original ECW. I thought the company was way overhyped and just straight up not very good. ECW was in fact one of the most influential companies in the world with some very innovative stuff. Then it stopped being innovative. Everyone was cursing, everyone had hot women, everyone used weapons, everyone had the more adult angles. They also got talent from ECW and Heyman just never came back.
If you look back at the ECW PPV guys and the reactions they were getting, it became increasingly clear that the midcard was the most popular section of the show. This is where one of the big ECW talking points comes into play: the TV Title and the World Title were sometimes on equal footing. That does not work. Even in a company today like WWE where there is enough talent to have two full rosters and theyre still crowded, people dont like more than one champion. The other thing to consider is that to the masses, the TV Title was known as the belt worn by guys like Ultimo Dragon, Yuji Nagata, Alex Wright and Prince Iaukea.
You can make the case all you want that the titles were equal and that the matches for the TV Title were better. That very well may be true, but it doesnt matter what reality is. What matters is how your audience perceives it. Take for example John Cena. Anyone with eyes can see that Cena is a talented wrestler and has far more than 5 moves. However, the people think hes overrated and thats all that matters. RVD vs. Lynn for the TV Title might be the best match on the card, but its not for the World Title. Fans are familiar with the idea of the World Champion being the important guy.
This transitions into my next point: Rob Van Dam and the Heavyweight Title. Now Ive long since argued that the company was in trouble the day Shane Douglas got hurt. Shane was world champion and him dropping the belt to Taz was about as much of a given as you could ask for. The problem is that when Shane got hurt, Taz was the hottest thing in the company. Shane gets hurt for like 3 months and doesnt drop the title until January, six months after his injury. The problem was that Taz had to just sit around for six months waiting on the shoulder to heal and people didnt care when he won the belt.
This sets off a domino effect as Taz now has an 8 month reign and no one cares by this point and he has no one to fight. Van Dam is getting more and more popular so the belt goes on Mike Awesome for about seven months and then after a few short reigns (as in two in less than ten days) it goes to Justin Credible. Wait .what? Credible had a career win total of nothing important and yet hes the world champion? This was the problem for the rest of the companys run of nearly two years: the champions had never done shit.
The final three champions for all intents and purposes were Credible, Lynn and Corino. The problem is these three had a combined one important win: Lynn beat RVD when he had a bunch of ring rust and there was no title on the line. The problem was the Andre the Giant syndrome: as long as RVD was around and they didnt beat him, the fans didnt accept these guys as the world champion. This is what Im getting at with the RVD issues the whole time. He had well received matches with Jerry Lynn for the TV Title. Why couldnt they be for the world title? To the average and casual fans, hes the midcard champion. That doesnt sell a lot of new PPVs.
This is one of my final (I think) points: the impromptu matches and insane PPVs. These are fine once in awhile, but the thought that pops into my head is something I read in the Death of WCW book, so please note this is not my original idea but it fits ECW perfectly. Imagine if say McDonalds sold one thing: the mystery meal. You dont know whats in it but just that its edible food. It could be fish, chicken, hamburger etc. You know its one, but not specifically. How many people do you think would eat there? ECW PPVs were the same (to a degree): you were going to get wrestling, but you didnt know what it was going to be.
Having random matches is fine once in awhile, but eventually you have to stand by what youre offering and live or die by it. Having RVD vs. Lynn on this show doesnt mean anything because even if its the second coming of Steamboat vs. Flair it doesnt add a single buy because the only people that would see it have already bought the show. Now if you advertise that RVD, the most popular guy in the company, is going to be there then you might sell some more shows and make more money. See what Im getting at here? Its ok once in awhile but not all the time.
All that being said, there were some good things about ECW. Their tag wrestling was solid and their midcard would have made even WCW drool at times. Super Crazy vs. Tajiri was great for instance. Some of the tag matches were awesome and the women were very hot. There was some solid in ring work too and the brawls were decent at times. It would have been nice to mix things up a bit with more wrestling and less brawling, but I get the idea I guess.
Overall the company was never going to be a giant. It simply wasnt in the cards and thats all there is to it. However, if they hadnt stretched things way too far and tried to be the third national company, theres a chance they could be around today. As a regional company with lower salaries, they definitely could have been around at least to a certain degree. ECW was a company that tried very hard, but at the end of the day it just didnt have enough to survive. It most certainly meant something to wrestling though and paved the way for the indy companies like CHIKARA and ROH today. It was a good idea and successful to a degree, but without changing, it was doomed to die, which it did.
Yeah that'd be fine.
Stormtrooper
Championship Contender
Once the WWE Network launches, do you think that they should air FCW (or whatever the developmental program is at the time) Television? Do you think they WILL air developmental TV?
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
I don't think the network will happen at all at this point.
And not really. Those guys aren't ready for a national audience.
And not really. Those guys aren't ready for a national audience.
WWE have put too much money into the network for them not to take it to completion, regardless of how it's going to go down. They're already filming stuff for it.
I disagree with you about the FCW guys not being ready for national TV. Some of them are (heck, two of them were on National TV in the past), they're the ones who'll get called up in the not too distant future. But yeah, the production values aren't good enough, most of the tallent aren't good enough, and the location isn't good enough for it to be a good idea. Also, the point of FCW is to get the tallent ready for TV. Letting people see them at their worst before they debut won't help them at all.
Two questions now:
Moving top prospects in developmental to Stamford for closer obseration and prep work before their call up: good or bad thing?
Yoko in the Hall of Fame. Yay or nay?
klunderbunker
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Filming stuff for it doesn't mean that a cable provider is going to take it. I don't think any cable company has offered to put them on yet. That's not something Vince can get around.
As for the other two questions:
1. Doesn't matter if they're in Florida, Connecticut or Zimbabwe if their characters are still completely bland and do nothing to make people want t see them.
2. Fine by me.
As for the other two questions:
1. Doesn't matter if they're in Florida, Connecticut or Zimbabwe if their characters are still completely bland and do nothing to make people want t see them.
2. Fine by me.
CleverName51
Little Jimmy
What should the ideal WWE Developmental system look like?
Should it be something like MLB with a multi-tiered system, for example:
FCW: A-level
House Shows/Dark Matches: AA-level
NXT/Superstars: AAA-level
Main Shows: the true majors
Also: thoughts on the $2000 fine for HHH and Taker for using the head shot with the chair last year?
Do you think they actually paid that fine? Is $2000 even significant for guys like HHH/Taker? Do you think they are planning on blading/going Attitude Era level of violent in the Cell?
Should it be something like MLB with a multi-tiered system, for example:
FCW: A-level
House Shows/Dark Matches: AA-level
NXT/Superstars: AAA-level
Main Shows: the true majors
Also: thoughts on the $2000 fine for HHH and Taker for using the head shot with the chair last year?
Do you think they actually paid that fine? Is $2000 even significant for guys like HHH/Taker? Do you think they are planning on blading/going Attitude Era level of violent in the Cell?
Mr Ferguson
Dark Match Jobber
During a small session of browsing the 'Old School' section of the forums, i MR Ferguson came about some of your reviews. You haven't reviewed Backlash 2006 ( a great ppv) which mildly annoyed me.
Of the shows that you have not reviewed yet, which do you look forward to reviewing and why? Also has there ever been a time where you looked at yourself and asked "Why am i doing this".
Overall, i did enjoy reading some of the reviews. I would recommend them to any fan wanting to look at a unique perspective into a wrestling fans mind.
Kind regards, MR Ferguson.
Of the shows that you have not reviewed yet, which do you look forward to reviewing and why? Also has there ever been a time where you looked at yourself and asked "Why am i doing this".
Overall, i did enjoy reading some of the reviews. I would recommend them to any fan wanting to look at a unique perspective into a wrestling fans mind.
Kind regards, MR Ferguson.
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
In an ideal world, the A and AA levels should be in other companies, not WWE. Look at the guys that have come up through WWE but have gotten their stars elsewhere and you'll see that in general they're far more successful. The rest of that would be ok yeah.
Probably not that well. He wouldn't be allowed to be himself and would get some stupid name.
I'm saving that one for the final PPV review I do.
Probably GAB 91 due how hilariously bad it was.
On occasion. Then I usually take a break and come back to one in a few days.
I appreciate that. Send them to my site.