The matches still weren't good. It doesn't mean that's a compliment to Taker.
Agreed.
Fred Ottman gets on TV about once a year. Not for being Tugboat, but for wearing a glittery stormtrooper helmet and falling through a wall. That doesn't mean it's a positive thing.
But Giant Gonzalez get's referenced purely for his work against 'Taker. Why? Because that's the most memorable.
That would be incorrect.
What match was better and provide why you think so.
That's just funny.
Their match was horrible. I certainly don't think that it's a match that Bret will be remembered for.
If by pointing out that you said something that holds true for them as well means comparing, then yes I am.
Well Eugene and Hillbilly Jim certainly won't be remembered for much. If Santino is remembered in the future then great. I'm talking about how well 'Taker did in the early part of his career.
Indeed I have. Bundy's certainly wasn't with Taker. Gonzalez's certainly wasn't with Taker. Kamala never had anything you could call good.
Well Bundy's wasn't against Hogan at WM 2 that's for sure. What else is Gonzalez remembered for and I'll give you Kamala.
I never was a fan of his Austin series but the rest is true. As for that, all it says to me is that Taker back then needed someone good to give him a good match.
Well quality of opponent certainly does matter does it not. I'm sure that Shawn Michaels wouldn't have been able to do much better with those opponents.
Actually he did. The Attitude Era started when he didn't mean much and he was top heel to Austin for about 6 weeks. The AE was about Austin, Vince and DX far more than anyone else.
I'm sure that the Attitude Era was about those particular people; however, 'Taker's feuds with Kane and Mankind had something to do with the Attitude Era.
Then I'd suggest you get some mouthwash, because Hogan is exactly where I'm going. His two best matches: vs. Hogan and Savage, as in guys smaller than him. Based on the idea that playing the smaller one goes against this, Taker's matches with Big Show, Kane, Khali and Gonzalez can't be counted then as they're all bigger than him. Also if you believe match quality means jack, you're wrong again.
Hogan is a complete cop out and no I don't think that match quality means jack.
Hogan and Austin are a good place to start. Rock would be up there too as the loud mouthed jock. A gimmick lasting a long time doesn't really mean much either. Also let's take a look at Taker's gimmick that has "lasted so long."
1990-1992: Mortician.
1993-1995: Monster Hunter
1996-1998: Crazy whackjob that wanted to kill Foley.
1998-1999: Demon
2000-2003: Biker
2004-2006: Zombie with powers
2007-present: Tall MMA Leather Enthusiast
Taker's gimmick has changed a lot over the years. his name is all that's stayed the same.
But he's kept the same basic concept and if you think that he wasn't a zombie with powers during the early part of his career then your crazy or you're just trying to argue for the sake of it. All he changed before he became the American Bad Ass was his attire.
So your source is the same that still says Pat Patterson won a tournament in Rio for the IC Title. Got it.
You're damn right. I'll take their word for it before I would your own.
Don't remember saying that but whatever.
Oh you definitely said it. Go back and look if you will. You were talking to that Vega guy.