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What did you think of Eddie Guerrero's short heel turn in 2005?
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Lesnar (C) vs. Bryan
HHH vs. Sting
Cena vs. Rock III
Ambrose vs. Reigns vs. Rollins
And the rest...
If that's Mania, you're thoughts?
I know this is usually the joke but I feel a burning need to point that legit speaking:
A year has passed and ALMOST NOTHING HAS CHANGED. John Cena is going into a match that no one really wants to see, the New Age Outlaws are getting into a Tag Match against some fresh up and comers, Daniel Bryan is still getting the shit kicked out of him by the Authority, and the Rumble currently has every likelihood of exploding in WWE's faces by pushing the wrong guy to win it.
Like, holy shit I don't want to sound like a jaded washout but you'd have though WWE would have learn something right?
What did you think of Eddie Guerrero's short heel turn in 2005?
More of a shaking my head because the show was nowhere near as bad as people are making it out to be.
I like Reigns but I feel he should've gone to Wrestlemania to dethrone Rusev for the US title and then build him up for next year and have either Orton or Bryan win the Rumble.
Also has there ever been a wrestler pushed straight to the WWE title that has lasted a while. I mean heck as good as Brock was he only lasted two years in his initial run
Do you think WWE should go with the flow of hate towards Reigns (assuming it lasts given that Philly hates everyone eventually) and have him become a Heyman guy at WM31 when Heyman screws Lesnar? Assuming Lesnar leaves it give Heyman something to do immediately and gives a good voice for Reigns.
Cena is still going to be around for awhile while Reigns builds himself up for the eventual face turn. My only concern in this would be a heel Seth Rollins would only have a few months to cash in on a heel Reigns.
Have you heard or happen to know any reasoning as to why when he was champion, Edge came out before the challenger more often than not?
Was last night a kind of "F*** YOU" attempt at fans by Vince McMahon because of last year? Bryan, Ziggler, Ambrose and Wyatt were all eliminated as though they were all sacks of potatoes.
I find it funny that basically no one was screwed either.
Also, why did HHH and Steph come out at the end? Will it be HHH/Steph vs Sting/Rock at Mania?![]()
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Not that I know of.
It was about Reigns and little more.
That's one of those things that needs to be explained. I'm not quite sure yet.
Eh, I'm pretty sure it can. Why wouldn't it?That briefcase can still change things?
Was that on the post show? I didn't see it.
If Brock comes out in the run up to Mania and says that he's leaving and taking the belt with him, could that potentially set Reigns up as the saviour/hero?
Bryan or Orton. That's the only two guys I could have seen accepted as contenders versus Lesnar at Wrestlemania. Reigns isn't ready. He could be, for Wrestlemania 32, but not yet.
Eh, I'm pretty sure it can. Why wouldn't it?
Yep. Jerk is probably the wrong word, but it's pretty pathetic.
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This is a scenario I laid out for Mania. Could it work? It's pretty long, so just don't read if you don't feel like it.
Tonight on RAW (01/26):
- Bryan contemplates that he's failed miserably and didn't live up to his promises. He wonders if he can follow this path anymore.
- Brock and Heyman celebrate their victory, mentioning that Brock is still much superior to everyone and that he survived even though he was hurt badly and is still suffering the effects. The Authority comes out and applauds, though it turns into sarcasm. J&J, Kane, HHH and Rollins circle the ring and begin to beat down Lesnar. He's able to fight back, but is eventually brought down. Two Curb Stomps on the briefcase, cash-in, Rollins wins the title.
02/02:
- Brock is livid and wrecks the backstage area. He interrupts Rollins' title celebration and tries to destroy him. Authority takes the mic and says that he's fired if he attacks Rollins. They have another person he can take his anger out on without repercussions though, but we are not told who it is.
- Bryan is interviewed backstage and says he has an announcement to make. Before his injury, he held the WHC, having overcome all resistances, having defied the odds and looking out to be a legendary champion. Since his return, he wasn't the same guy. He lost to Bray Wyatt and in the Rumble he got tossed out quickly in spite of great promises. He thinks he might have lost his edge.
- At this moment, Lesnar rushes in and ambushes Bryan. Bryan is annihilated and left lying. Some seconds later we see the HHH and Steph looking down on Bryan, smiling, shaking their heads and mumbling "B+".
02/09:
- Heyman and Lesnar are pressuring the Authority, saying destroying someone is not enough. Brock wants his title back and the Authority better take measures. They are reluctant to have Rollins go one-on-one with Lesnar though, so they make a match for Fast Lane. If Brock wins, he is added to the Mania match against Rollins and Reigns. And because Brock really wants to get his anger out, it will be No Disqualification. Brock's opponent will be determined in a tournament.
02/12 / 02/16:
- It's the tournament for a No DQ match against Lesnar at Fast Lane, with the winner being inserted into the Mania title match.
- In the semifinals on SmackDown, Wyatt defeats Ziggler and Ambrose defeats Harper. Ambrose defeats Wyatt in the finals on RAW to finally put an end to their confrontations.
Fast Lane (02/22):
- Ambrose is withstanding an enormous amount of punishment, kicking out several times and even manages a few flurries of action himself, mostly with the use of weapons. When Heyman interferes on Lesnar's behalf, Bryan storms through the crowd and hits a Running Knee on Heyman. Together, Bryan and Ambrose take Lesnar down, sending Ambrose to Mania against Rollins and Reigns.
02/23:
- Heyman and Brock are livid about Bryan meddling with their affairs. Does the little man really think he can take on the Beast Incarnate? Does he really think he can mess with the conquerer of the Streak and come out alive?
- Bryan thanks Lesnar for attacking him three weeks back. It was a much needed wake-up call and he might not have found his inner fire again if not for that. What is he worth if there's someone above him? What kind of fighter would he be if he doesn't even try to find his limits? Nobody has seen his limits yet. If he doesn't take on the biggest challenges, he might not even bother showing up.
- Lesnar laughs and Heyman calls Bryan crazy. If he wants to risk his life, he can have it. If he really is suicidal, Brock will be more than happy to provide euthanasia. But there should be no excuses, so it's all out. No countouts, no disqualification.
- Bryan agrees, but adds that it's also all or nothing. If Brock means that he can't lose and his credibility depends on that match, and if he (Bryan) can't fail or there's no meaning for him, it should be career vs career.
Over the next weeks, give Bryan a mean streak and free him a little bit from the underdog role. Remember the Nexus invasion or his independent days? Right now he's playing a different, quite humble role, but he has it in him. Reactivate some of the more brutal moves, like the tree of woe dropkick, grabbing orifices for holds or the repeated elbow strikes he won the ROH Pure title with.
Lesnar and Heyman should belittle Bryan and laugh at him at the beginning of the feud, but take him more seriously with each passing week of Bryan busting out more and more aggression. "No, Brock, you should be the one to be afraid!" could be a great line near Mania, with Lesnar showing slight doubts.
With the other expected feuds, these would be the top matches on the card:
Daniel Bryan VS Brock Lesnar - No Countouts, No Disqualification, Career VS Career
Dean Ambrose VS Roman Reigns (R) VS Seth Rollins (C) WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Triple H VS Sting
John Cena VS Rusev (C) United States Championship
For the title match, there are a number of routes you could go. Have Rollins cement his top heel status, give the fans what they want or push through with the corporate champion (the real one, not Seth). There's a bigger moment coming that would soothe the audience and take pressure off Roman. The match has rich backstory, there are a lot of possibilites and that makes for an exciting battle. Either way, Rollins vs Bryan seems like a logical feud after Mania.
In the cell, have Bryan show no fear and go all out with brutality. Begin the match with both guys staring each other down, Bryan spitting in Brock's face, followed by a big slap and a race around the ring to fire up the crowd. Brock should come close to catching Bryan, but never quite succeed, while repeated kicks and strikes slow him down blow by blow. Believability
becomes a problem once Lesnar really gets a hold and dominates, so have a counter for almost every move. Bryan needs to get in a lot of weakening offense, while Lesnar should destroy with a few devastating maneuvers he gets through. As for the finish, I'm not quite sure, but a picture I love that flies through my head is a bloody Brock succumbing to the Yes Lock with a Kendo stick clamped between his teeth. I know, no blood allowed, but imagine that pop. Then compare it to the Reigns Spear reaction in an alternate universe and tell me that's the way to go.
What's worse is that he didn't come off as the tough teasing guy but as the doofus buddy of the bully.Yeah that's pretty dickish.
That's a bit further than I go with my booking. However, I'm not wild on the Authority taking out Lesnar unless you want to make Lesnar the biggest face in the company. That's exactly what it would do.
I don't think there are any plans at this point, besides "we want to do Lesnar - Reigns and Cena - Rusev in some way". It's pretty clear that creatively, it's dilettante day-to-day work. Usually this excludes Jan-Mar, but this year I'm not sure. Especially after yesterday.It would, but I don't think Bryan is in the plans at this point.