klunderbunker
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He'll get better with time.
The Streak is always forgotten until Wrestlemania season. I don't know why people are shocked it's being forgotten at this time of the year again.
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He'll get better with time.
The Streak is always forgotten until Wrestlemania season. I don't know why people are shocked it's being forgotten at this time of the year again.
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Not a question per say, but just a tidbit. Did you know that famed actress Shirley Temple had a bother that was a pro wrestler? Unsurprisingly he was a good draw in the California area, but his career was cut short due to injuries.
It has always amazed me how deeply pro wrestling is ingrained in American culture and how many people have been associated with it over the years.
It has always amazed me how deeply pro wrestling is ingrained in American culture and how many people have been associated with it over the years.
klunderbunker
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And now how many people want nothing to do with it.
MrHashasheen
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Shawn Michaels vs. Rey Mysterio never happened, did it?
klunderbunker
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Yeah it did. Mysterio actually won clean.
Mustang Sally
Sells seashells by the seashore
In a tag team match, when a tag is made but the referee's back is turned, the guy tagged enters the match but the ref tosses him back out, pointing two fingers at his own eyes, the message being: "If I didn't see it, it didn't happen."
This policy applies to many others actions that take place during a match. If a ref is admonishing a guy in the ring and turns to see the opponent laid out, he isn't supposed to assume that someone else did it, even though the legal man (who he's yelling at) couldn't have done it.....so, the bad guys gets away with the dastardly deed.
How, then, when Eddie Guerrero tossed a chair to his opponent, then dropped to the ground as if struck with the chair, does the ref presume the guy holding the chair "must have" hit Eddie....and disqualify the poor schmuck?
How many times did you see that happen? Ref didn't see the hit, so how can he assume who did it?
I cry foul.
This policy applies to many others actions that take place during a match. If a ref is admonishing a guy in the ring and turns to see the opponent laid out, he isn't supposed to assume that someone else did it, even though the legal man (who he's yelling at) couldn't have done it.....so, the bad guys gets away with the dastardly deed.
How, then, when Eddie Guerrero tossed a chair to his opponent, then dropped to the ground as if struck with the chair, does the ref presume the guy holding the chair "must have" hit Eddie....and disqualify the poor schmuck?
How many times did you see that happen? Ref didn't see the hit, so how can he assume who did it?
I cry foul.
klunderbunker
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In a tag team match, when a tag is made but the referee's back is turned, the guy tagged enters the match but the ref tosses him back out, pointing two fingers at his own eyes, the message being: "If I didn't see it, it didn't happen."
This policy applies to many others actions that take place during a match. If a ref is admonishing a guy in the ring and turns to see the opponent laid out, he isn't supposed to assume that someone else did it, even though the legal man (who he's yelling at) couldn't have done it.....so, the bad guys gets away with the dastardly deed.
How, then, when Eddie Guerrero tossed a chair to his opponent, then dropped to the ground as if struck with the chair, does the ref presume the guy holding the chair "must have" hit Eddie....and disqualify the poor schmuck?
How many times did you see that happen? Ref didn't see the hit, so how can he assume who did it?
I cry foul.
Oh yeah this is an old idea. There's even a running gag about it.
Heel team switches without tagging and the referee has his back turned. THe heels swear they made a tag and the referee allows it. Then later in the match the faces do the same thing and swear they made a tag with the audience agreeing with them. There are about a dozen variations of the same trick.
As for someone like Eddie, yeah refereeing is about as all over the place as anything else. It's ridiculous at times but it's one of those things you just have to go with.
I am not sure if too many fans are aware of HHH's symbol on his ring attire and the video tron. That symbol actually was used on war machines of the Luftwaffe and Wehrmact. So does that mean VKM is a Nazi Sympathizer
Why doesn't ROH and TNA have a working relationship. I am not sure who is at fault but if they work together more often more money for both of them can be made
IYO opinion has John Cena made a bigger name for himself under WWE or his charity work. I do think John even knows it the more charity work he does the more difficult Vince will not look at him as the "Go To Guy". I think before he won his first world title that he was already making a name for himself throughout the entertainment industry with his WWE Exposure combined with his enormous charity work!
Why doesn't ROH and TNA have a working relationship. I am not sure who is at fault but if they work together more often more money for both of them can be made
IYO opinion has John Cena made a bigger name for himself under WWE or his charity work. I do think John even knows it the more charity work he does the more difficult Vince will not look at him as the "Go To Guy". I think before he won his first world title that he was already making a name for himself throughout the entertainment industry with his WWE Exposure combined with his enormous charity work!
klunderbunker
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I highly doubt it.
What does ROH have to gain from it?
WWE, because without it there wouldn't be any charity work.
What does ROH have to gain from it?
WWE, because without it there wouldn't be any charity work.
I just find it weird that a conservative like VKM would use any symbol for the losing side of WWII
I think the TV exposure would be great other then just Sinclair. They could do Super Shows together like 2-3 times a year. From a business standpoint to gain more market share its better that two small market entities share some creative ideas but not all to achieve each others goals.
With all do respect Cena was doing MAW since HS. Obviously the exposure with WWE has helped in in all other areas
I think the TV exposure would be great other then just Sinclair. They could do Super Shows together like 2-3 times a year. From a business standpoint to gain more market share its better that two small market entities share some creative ideas but not all to achieve each others goals.
With all do respect Cena was doing MAW since HS. Obviously the exposure with WWE has helped in in all other areas
klunderbunker
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No real need, especially with TNA off Spike.
It's WWE, not his charity stuff.
It's WWE, not his charity stuff.
Bockwinkel's Class
An Entity Of Existence
Triple H uses the symbol because it's one of the symbols that the heavy metal band Motorhead uses. You might recognize them as the band that does Triple H's entrance music ("The Game", "King of Kings"). Trips is a huge longtime fan of their's.
Kodo Sawaki
Championship Contender
Lemmy acctually has very large collection of Nazi memorabilia. But he is collector of stuff. Oh, and swastika is Nazi symbol. Iron cross is more of a symbol of German military which is used even today. 
Sorry for intrusion, just wanted to clarify a bit.
Sorry for intrusion, just wanted to clarify a bit.
MrHashasheen
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Besides Trish and Lita, the WWF didn't have much for a women's division in 2000/2001. Do you think that without them, it might have been that they wouldn't have kept the division after Chyna left?
klunderbunker
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Nah. They were getting in other girls to help fill in the gap.
Mustang Sally
Sells seashells by the seashore
Okay, I need a KB interpretation here, since what I'm suggesting surely isn't covered in the WWE rulebook:
Seth Rollins holds the MITB briefcase. He tag teams with Brock Lesnar to face the team of Ryback & Dolph Ziggler (although the opponents could be any face team, for purposes of this example). During the match, Lesnar, Ryback and Dolph crash bodies, knocking out the three of them.
Seth Rollins grabs the briefcase and hands it to the referee, looking to cash in on his partner. He pins the unconscious Brock.
Does the ref: (1) refuse to accept the briefcase because a cash-in can't take place while a match is still in progress (2) allow the pin but call the Rollins/Lesnar team the loser of the match since Brock was pinned (3) allow the pin and call Rollins/Lesnar the winner of the match since Rollins scored the pin (4) call the match a no-contest but allow the cash-in and declare Seth Rollins as the new world champ?
CAVEAT: For this example, the Authority is not involved, because if they were, it's obvious they would rule that their boy Rollins is the new champion by virtue of the cash-in.
The question is what the referee should do.
Seth Rollins holds the MITB briefcase. He tag teams with Brock Lesnar to face the team of Ryback & Dolph Ziggler (although the opponents could be any face team, for purposes of this example). During the match, Lesnar, Ryback and Dolph crash bodies, knocking out the three of them.
Seth Rollins grabs the briefcase and hands it to the referee, looking to cash in on his partner. He pins the unconscious Brock.
Does the ref: (1) refuse to accept the briefcase because a cash-in can't take place while a match is still in progress (2) allow the pin but call the Rollins/Lesnar team the loser of the match since Brock was pinned (3) allow the pin and call Rollins/Lesnar the winner of the match since Rollins scored the pin (4) call the match a no-contest but allow the cash-in and declare Seth Rollins as the new world champ?
CAVEAT: For this example, the Authority is not involved, because if they were, it's obvious they would rule that their boy Rollins is the new champion by virtue of the cash-in.
The question is what the referee should do.
klunderbunker
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......my head hurts.
I would assume 4, especially since no one is going to care about the tag match if the title changes hands.
The worst part: WCW tried to script this at Bash at the Beach 1999. It was a tag match with the title on the line but Sting could pin Nash (his partner) to win the belt.
I would assume 4, especially since no one is going to care about the tag match if the title changes hands.
The worst part: WCW tried to script this at Bash at the Beach 1999. It was a tag match with the title on the line but Sting could pin Nash (his partner) to win the belt.
Mustang Sally
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KB: But I'm interested in your solution, Sally. After all, you know so much more about pro wrestling than I do.
Sally: Glad you asked, little guy. I would have picked #1, where the ref refuses to let the MITB holder cash in during a match. When you think of it, a champion would never engage in a tag team match with a MITB holder, whether he's on the other team or not since the guy could cash in on him at any time during the match. This isn't the Hardcore title, which could change 24/7, no matter what else is going on. With MITB, I would presume a match has to be over in order to cash in.
Of course, there's still a solution for Seth Rollins. Since his partner Brock is unconscious, as are the two opponents, Seth could drag Dolph Ziggler onto Brock and have the ref count the pin. Yes, Seth is sacrificing the tag match to the other team, but as soon as it's over, he can give the briefcase to the ref and cash in on Brock, winning the world title from his tag team partner.
What do you think, Kay-Bee?
KB: That's friggin' brilliant, Sally! I'm thinking of abdicating my position and hereafter calling this topic: "Mustang Sally Answers Wrestling Questions."
klunderbunker
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As usual, the youth in this country forget character development.
Brock would have no problem with accepting the tag match because he doesn't think anyone can touch him. The idea of 3-1 with someone trying to take his title sounds like a welcome challenge to him.
Brock would have no problem with accepting the tag match because he doesn't think anyone can touch him. The idea of 3-1 with someone trying to take his title sounds like a welcome challenge to him.
Something came to mind the other night and I feel its a route WWE could go at the Rumble. Say Cena wins the title and then Ryback, Rowen, and Ziggler jump Cena and Rollins cashes in. Reason being The Authority has promised them their jobs if they make sure Cena doesn't leave as champ. Thoughts? Could setup for a Cena/Ziggler match at Mania if that suite their fancy.
klunderbunker
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Sounds like the way the Radicalz turned heel. I've heard worse ideas.
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Because you never know what matches we might be seeing in the WWZT. May as well ask the master...
Who do you pick?
Trish vs Madusa
Lita vs Wendi Richter
Chyna vs Awesome Kong
Michelle McCool vs Angelina Love
Victoria vs Beth Phoenix
Who do you pick?
Trish vs Madusa
Lita vs Wendi Richter
Chyna vs Awesome Kong
Michelle McCool vs Angelina Love
Victoria vs Beth Phoenix
klunderbunker
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Trish
Lita
Chuna
McCool
Victoria
Lita
Chuna
McCool
Victoria
