John Morrison or Jeff Hardy?

[kilva]

If there's already a poll between these 2, Im sorry & please delete my post.

Set aside their Championships/Accomplishments, who among the two are better, talent wise? They are both considered spot monkeys, although JoMo may know a few technical moves.

Jeff Hardy - The Charismatic Enigma, one half member of the Hardy Boyz. Just recently had an interesting feud with CM Punk. Finishing move: Twist of Fate, Whisper in the Wind, Swanton Bomb. Sells merchandise like hotcakes. Loved by most Children, women & A few of us loyal Wrestling fans, but is already strike 2 on WWE's wellness policy. OK Physique. Not much of a good talker, and some say he's sloppy in the ring, but IMO he's alright.

John Morrison - The Shaman of Sexy, was one half of MnM. Has no solid feud yet ATM. Finishing move: Moonlight Drive, Starship Pain, STO Russian leg Sweep/Backbreaker(I think). Only has a few JoMo merch to sell, is strike 1 on the WWE wellness policy. Athletic Physique. Ok on the mic. Sells his opponents moves good/Above average on the Ring.

Overall: Although I like them both, I think JoMo is a little bit better than Hardy. I think that he deserves the same pop that Hardy does. The reason he's not getting enough pops as Hardy does is because he aint that established as a face yet. A long feud with Y2J would really help him. Rather than having random matches & wins from people, I think a feud would really help him. He also needs some good mic time, he's not bad in the mic, he just needs to get a bit more serious. Hardy can also still improve.

Who do you guys prefer? Thank for your replies

 

[Watsonation]

JoMo way Mo lol. Hardy is IMO, a stunt double. i like him, don't get me wrong. Who doesn't? but John has alot more moves and i beleive he will become way bigger than hardy. He can wrestle without having to nearly kill himself and still get a big pop. but i agree he needs a fued(like when he and punk fueded in ECW.) maybe now that hardy is champ, we can see these two wrestle for the "Big Un" at Summerslam.

 

[Cracka Jack]

Jeff is still fun to watch, mostly to see what new spots he can come up with, but Morrison is a much better wrestler overall. His mic skills, while not fantastic, are far better than Jeff's, who honestly just sounds awkward and uncomfortable whenever he does a promo. Morrison seems to add new moves to his arsenal every few matches, and when it comes to spots, his are pretty close to Jeff's in excitement and originality. It may sound like I'm hating on Hardy a bit here, but I don't have a problem with him at all; I just believe Morrison is better.

 

[Jonnie Walker]

I say Morrison,because he has much better mic skills,and he has great in ring skills IMO.I think a Moonlight Drive-Starship Pain combo would be great,and somewhat better than Hardy's Twist of Fate-Swanton Bomb combo,even tough the Swanton and Twist of Fate are more established moves,Starship Pain and Moonlight Drive are incredibly hard to pull of.I've tried and failed miserably,I can't do a backflip and Moonlight Drive is hard as hell to do.So I say Morrison,even though I think Hardy is good.

 

[jmt225]

I like them both, personally, and I can't really decide on this.

I use to really, really dislike Morrison, but when went to ECW and started the Jim Morrison rip-off gimmick, I instantly became a fan of the character; however, I was still indifferent about his in-ring work. But soon enough, he would have an amazing series of matches against CM Punk, and I remember a 'Hardcore' match specifically against Tommy Dreamer for the ECW Championship where I finally bought the hype. Since then... I've been a huge fan and the guy just gets better and better. His mic skills have come a LONG way since that time, and you can just tell he's feeling more and more comfortable out there with each show. Plus, watching those internet skits with Miz during their run as a team... you just can't help but admire Morrison's passion for pro wrestling. You can really tell he truly loves the business.

Jeff Hardy has been one of my favorite in-ring workers since 1999. The guy just puts on great match after great match. In the ring, he's just unbelievably skilled. The guy also has an unbelievable amount of charisma. But, unfortunately, the one thing that keeps him from being pushed to the moon and live up to his potential is his mic skills, and his passion for the business. Both he lacks, big time. However, his in-ring ability and his charisma are just so good that it makes up for it. How many wrestlers do you know in the history of the business with terrible mic skills and really doesn't care for it could have achieved what Jeff Hardy has achieved? Not many, if any. It's quite incredible when you think about it.

So, yeah... I hate to say this, but right now... it's a tie. But Morrison has more of a chance to pass up Hardy than Hardy does of passing up Morrison. I will say that much.

 

[G3]

I voted Jeff Hardy mainly because I don't think John Morrison is ready enough to be a big name. Therefore I think Hardy is better. But John Morrison has good charisma and I can see being big at some point he just isn't as over as Jeff Hardy. I think as an entertainer Jeff Hardy, as a wrestler John Morrison is better.

 

[Sasori]

I say Morrison!
Jeff's whole dream to defy thing is getting stale because he has 'defied' his dream 3 times already!!! God damn it Jeff is credible enough now stop doing all this under-dog, pot head, failure shit, even though thats his life story lol no offense Hardy fans. Morrison, is more athletic, better looking, and has better mic skills! That crushes all of Jeff's quality's IMO.

 

[beefthelegend]

How is Jeff Hardy fun to watch? Am i missing the fun? Can someone PLEASE show me the fun? Is it because he is constantly blowing out his knees and taking terrible back bumps, which means he'll be a cripple more or less at 50? Is that where the fun starts? Is it his mic work? "I'll get you, and achieve my dream, AGAIN!" Is that wherre the fun starts? How about his sloppy and laxisdasical move delivery, where he either misses an opponent completely, or hurts them legitimatly? Is THAT where the fun starts? Or his constant self destruction? Or his awesome and unique facepaint? IS THAT WHERE THE FUN STARTS?!?!?!?!?!



*inhales deeply and exahles a few times*

Okay. So i'm not the biggest Hardy fan. But i didn't think this was even a contest. John Morrison is talented, great on the mic, and very tight in the ring. He has a character that is not "Daredevil/suicidal", and has the look of an athlete, not a gaunt meth addict.

Sure, Hardy has been around for a while. Riding the coattails of his brother...failing as a singles wrestler...suspended for Drugs, twice...fired...no showing a TNA pay per view (What a dick)...that gives him a huge name and great recognition right?

Seriously...at least John Cena is talented. At least he can wrestle, as opposed to throwing his body at someone hapharzardly. That's the only reason he is over, because Vince is Cena-fying him and shoving him down our throats. Because Kids will believe anything. And force their parents to buy them anything. It's all about that Money...money...(Yeah yeah). Vince doesnt give a crap about the fans, or the fact that so many young and impressionable fans look up to this constant fuck up, this loser at life, and think it's okay to do drugs, because Jeff Hardy does it.

Wow...sounding like CM Punk there...

My point is he was NEVER good, people just watched him for the same reason people was NASCAR...to see the horrible wreck. That's why I was always excited for Hardy PPV gimmick matches- "Oh man, i can't wait to see what crazy shit Jeff Hardy is going to do now..."

Yeah...ask Mick Foley how doing all of that crazy shit helped his body-a body that was built for bumps.

When all is said and done, Jeff Hardy will be a footnote in wrestling history. Because he is either going to walk away here soon, or he is going to inevitably get his third strike, or somehow continue his self destructive ways.

 

[KANE-A-KNIGHT]

i vote morrison for one reason, the future.
jeff will be gone and morrison will be on top heel or face winning championship after championship and i cant wait. royal rumble he will be in last 4 wrestlemania he will win mitb and in 20 years he will be in hof

 

[hArdyPUNKmArk]

How is Jeff Hardy fun to watch?

Because he's entertaining. He's been building a good feud right now with Punk and was involved in probably the second best match at Mania. He was a part of the awesome tag devision in the attitude era and has some risky moves and risk equals curiosity which in turn makes you want to see what he does. That's why I have fun watching him.

Am i missing the fun?

Apparantly.

Can someone PLEASE show me the fun?

Watch any Smackdown episode, he's generally on there doing a good job, he's getting the biggest pops on the show and is involved in the main feud and is the World Heavyweight Champion. He must be doing something right.

Is it because he is constantly blowing out his knees and taking terrible back bumps, which means he'll be a cripple more or less at 50?

So, Hogan is 55 and he didn't do any of the shit Hardy does. Most wrestlers are going to have problems when they get older. Oh and Hardy is probably one of the best bump takers in the company at the moment.

Is that where the fun starts?

Probably not. I wouldn't be having fun if I was a cripple at 50, would you?

Is it his mic work?

Sure, his mic work isn't the best but fuck dude, he's a hell of a lot better than he once was and he certainly isn't the worst. Hardy get's slammed for his mic work yet people want Shelton Benjamin in the main event, come on.

Is that wherre the fun starts? How about his sloppy and laxisdasical move delivery, where he either misses an opponent completely, or hurts them legitimatly?

When was the last time he hurt someone legit other than Matt Hardy who I'd like to point out was tied to a fucking table at the time, that was a risk by both guys. It always had the potential to do some damage. So again, who has Hardy hurt in a normal situation?

his awesome and unique facepaint? IS THAT WHERE THE FUN STARTS?!?!?!?!?!

Who els has the same facepaint as him? I find it unique and gave him a new look to go with. He's trying something different and for a lot of people it's worked to a certain degree, I personally find it really really FUN.

Don't hurt yourself dude.

Okay. So i'm not the biggest Hardy fan.

You don't say.

But i didn't think this was even a contest. John Morrison is talented, great on the mic, and very tight in the ring. He has a character that is not "Daredevil/suicidal", and has the look of an athlete, not a gaunt meth addict.

True, Morrison has a lot of talent but he's got a bit to go before he is at Hardy's level. Hardy is carrying Smackdown right now with Edge out and Jericho tag teaming. He obviously isn't the everyone's favourite but to say Morrison is a shit load better is rediculous. Morrison has talent but he hasn't built his character to the level of Hardy... yet. Morrison will probably go on to be bigger and better than Hardy but right now, he's not at his level.

Sure, Hardy has been around for a while. Riding the coattails of his brother...failing as a singles wrestler

You're kidding right. If he has been 'riding the coat tales of his brother' and failing as a singles competitor why is he a 3 time world champion and has been main eventing most PPV's for over a year? Matt may be a better 'technical wrestler' than Jeff but he hasn't got as over with the fans which means he hasn't entertained them as well as Jeff has which in turn means the fans have more 'FUN' watching Jeff. This is ENTERTAINMENT, not wrestling. If you want to watch wrestling go watch some grecko roman shit or something because WWE is for entertainment and wether you do that by technical moves, spots or comedy as long as you are entertaining the fans then you are succeeding. I get sick of people bagging the shit out of guys like Hardy and Cena just because they don't find it entertaining. It's fine if you don't but come on, you have to realise a shit load of people do so they are most definatley succeeding in what they are there to do.

John Cena is talented.

Agreed.

That's the only reason he is over, because Vince is Cena-fying him and shoving him down our throats. Because Kids will believe anything. And force their parents to buy them anything.

So, let me get this right. You think Hardy is only over because he is shoved down our throats and that kids are his main fans? So, when he was wrestling in the Attitude Era it was only kids that liked him then too? And as far as Vince shoving him down our throats you are completely wrong. If Vince had his way Hardy would probably be in the mid card but he couldn't deny the fans any longer. So many people wanted Hardy to win the big one that he finally let it happen. Yeah Hardy has been in trouble before with drugs or whatever but over the past year and a half he has shown he can perform at the top level and has definatley matured. I'm not saying he might not fuck up again but you gotta give some credit when it's due and he has worked fucking hard since coming back in main eventing nearly every PPV for the past 12 months and is now doing a great job of putting Punk over. He took so long to win the championship in the first place I hardy believe Vince has 'shoved him down our throats'.

It's all about that Money...money...(Yeah yeah). Vince doesnt give a crap about the fans, or the fact that so many young and impressionable fans look up to this constant fuck up, this loser at life, and think it's okay to do drugs, because Jeff Hardy does it.

Constant fuck up? Wow, by my calculations he's had quite a successful career and would be earning a shit load. He now has the WWE wanting him to stay and is currently the WHC. I think it's safe to say he's had a successful carreer with a few mistakes/fuck ups along the way which a lot of us have had in our lives, no one is perfect.

Wow...sounding like CM Punk there...

No CM Punk was better.

My point is he was NEVER good, people just watched him for the same reason people was NASCAR...to see the horrible wreck. That's why I was always excited for Hardy PPV gimmick matches-"Oh man, i can't wait to see what crazy shit Jeff Hardy is going to do now..."

People watch him because they are entertained by him. If they weren't they wouldn't watch. Hardy doesn't fuck up that much in the ring and doesn't hurt himself often. Come on, you're clutching at straws now.

Yeah...ask Mick Foley how doing all of that crazy shit helped his body-a body that was built for bumps.

Foley is still wrestling so that's a good sign. Also Mick is one of the most popular wrestlers to go through the WWE so to compare Hardy to Foley is more of compliment in my eyes.

When all is said and done, Jeff Hardy will be a footnote in wrestling history. Because he is either going to walk away here soon, or he is going to inevitably get his third strike, or somehow continue his self destructive ways.

True, maybe he will get suspended again or get a career ending injury but until then he'll continue to be entertaining to a shit load of people and will most definatley be remembered in the history books, he's a 3 time champion. His name isn't going to be erased from that. And even if he isn't remembered for that you can't tell me the TLC match's with the Dudley's and E&C will be forgotten as well.

In my opinion on the actul topic is that Hardy is better than Morrison for the simple fact that he is more experienced and more over/entertaining to the majority of fans. I don't rate wrestling in terms of who does more traditional moves or who is more athletic, the company is entertainment so whoever entertains more is the better entertainer/pro wrestler.

Hardy > Morrison... for the moment, that's not to say Morrison isn't going to be huge which I think there is a good chance he will be.

 

[CH David]

Ok, so the point of the poll and thread is to figure out, taking out all the accomplishments and accolades of both men, and figure out who is better. Raw talent is Morrison, and I can't deny that. But, even taking out all the accolades, there is one thing you cannot take away, and that is experience.

Jeff Hardy has been wrestling since 1994. He was a jobber back then, but it was still experience. He was given a contract in 1998, and the Hardy Boyz took off in 1999. That is 8 years before Morrison even got his chance on Tough Enough III. To be a proverbial big stage performer, Smackdown or Raw, Jeff was a member since 1998-99ish, I don't remember the exact date. Morrison since 2005. Jeff has more experience than Morrison, and with experience comes popularity.

As Mario101 stated, Jeff is basically carrying Smackdown with help from CM Punk, but the majority is Jeff. He is one of, if not the most over wrestlers right now, and has been for years. He has earned his spot in the Main Event, hard work and dedication, because of which he rose through the ranks from tag teams, to World Champion. Sure he had drug problems and he isn't as reliable as John Cena, but he has earned his spot.

It is quite possible for Morrison to pass Jeff Hardy in terms of championships, popularity and such, but right now it is Jeff Hardy, because his experience has led him to where he is right now. The only thing Morrison has more than Hardy is raw talent. Explain to me how Morrison is better than Hardy. I don't want to hear that Jeff is a spot monkey and Morrison has some technical moves, because Jeff can do them too. He just doesn't because he isn't known for those kinds of moves.