John Cena is now a 15 TIME WWE World Heavyweight Champion!

[nbieclkl91]

So John Cena just won the MITB Championship match and became a 15 time World Champion! I'm happy with this as I feel it would've been bad timing for any of the other competitors and I also like John Cena.

What do you guys think? Where will this go from here?

 

[TootsieBear]

So John Cena just won the MITB Championship match and became a 15 time World Champion! I'm happy with this as I feel it would've been bad timing for any of the other competitors and I also like John Cena.

What do you guys think? Where will this go from here?

Personally, like numerous of other fans, I'm disappointed. John Cena is just so bland and boring as a performer. And I hate that the PPV's are becoming too predictable.

I mean think about it! What about the surprises? The swerves? WWE needs to bring new life into the business.

 

[Kidpolean]

Let me start off by saying that I'm am NOT a Cena hater, I actually like the guy. He is good on the MIC, has had classic matches, and is a great role model for children. However, enough is enough! I honestly threw up in my mouth a little when I saw Cena win. Its getting sickening at this point. How many title wins does he need? WWE has to give someone else a chance every once in awhile. Hell I would have rather seen Orton win or Kane betray HHH and win. Even Sheamus would have been better. I fully understand why Cesaro, Reigns, and Wyatt were not real options to win but Cena winning is to the point where it just ruins ppv endings. Is there anybody left that actually wants him to be champ? The entire creative team needs to be fired. This is absolutely ridiculous. Words cannot even fully express how I feel right now. I literally feel sick watching the company I have loved since I was 5 years old turn into repetitive bullshit.

Cena ruined a ppv containing what, imo, was the greatest MITB ladder match of all time....the briefcase one, the title one was terrible.

 

[Catacomb]

it was a fun match, cena as champ doesnt really bother me as id prefer him to orton again. i just hope this is cenas last title run, i dont wanna see cena break or match flairs record

 

[Kodo Sawaki]

After Bryan got hurt it was most logical option to be either him or Orton. As they are building for Cena vs Lesnar again, its not suprising that WWE decided to go with Cena here. Was rooting for Reigns but it was premature for him to win here and I am not one of those "Cena haters" so am just interested to see where all this is going from now on.

 

[Slash-LN]

It doesn't bother me one bit.
Him winning actually makes me wonder what they're going to do with Orton since he failed to win. That's big to me because I don't like Orton at all so making me show interest in him means they did something right.
Where does the authority go from here? Their guy didn't win the title. Can they count on him to chase Cena for the title? Do they recruit someone else?
Do they stack the cards against Cena and have Rollins cash in on him with assistance?

Raw should be interesting tomorrow.

 

[HBK_EDGE]

It was the only logical outcome. Swerves are fine but you can't just swerve to swerve it has to be in the best interest of the product as a whole. If Brock loses at Summerslam you basically take all the steam away from the guy who ended the streak which is a huge waste. Brock is going to get huge heat from ending the streak and Heyman, so logically it has to be a face. Obviously it isn't Sheamus. Reigns is the future face of your company for years to come you want him to claim the belt in a MITB match and then drop it two months later. It just makes no sense.

Swerves are great but you can't have one at every PPV esp. when they don't make sense for the product going forward.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

After Bryan got hurt it was most logical option to be either him or Orton. As they are building for Cena vs Lesnar again, its not suprising that WWE decided to go with Cena here. Was rooting for Reigns but it was premature for him to win here and I am not one of those "Cena haters" so am just interested to see where all this is going from now on.

I find no logic in putting the title on a face after Bryan was injured. This was the ripe time for a heel to take the title and to make screwing Bryan even worse.

Now, it's basically going to be more "John Cena saves the day!" crap.

Now, in an alternate reality, where WWE is smart as hell, they would have had Kane help John win the title. And the next night, Triple H says that he loves the idea that John is champion because he makes him a lot of money. And John is just disgusted at the idea that the title is being pawned off that way. He then asks to be allowed to relinquish the title. And Triple H sends his dogs to beat him up to keep him in line. So John is a reluctant champion while Triple H is excited to keep him on top.

Now that would be an interesting story. But of course, that's not how it's gonna go.

We're going to have to sit through promos of Triple H saying with a straight face that he doesn't want John Cena, his #1 cash cow, to be World Champion. This is going to be total bullshit.

 

[KitsuneDreamer]

I'm not disappointed, but I thought they would've had Orton or even Bray or Reigns take it, I felt Cena was too safe an option, but hey, as said by Slash, Raw should really be interesting tomorrow night.

Will this lead to Reigns v Cena and his long awaited heel turn?

 

[teampunk]

while i'm not a cena fan, i'm ok with him winning. he's just going to be fed to lesner at summerslam. and i personaly, and most of the wwe crowds are ready for that.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

Bryan/Cena at Battleground....hopefully.

More like Orton/Cena. They should add in Big Show/Henry, Rey/Ziggler, Khali/Kane and Kofi/Miz and call it "Battleground: Reliving the Glory Days of 2009".

 

[Kodo Sawaki]

I find no logic in putting the title on a face after Bryan was injured. This was the ripe time for a heel to take the title and to make screwing Bryan even worse.

Now, it's basically going to be more "John Cena saves the day!" crap.

Only other thing they could do is to give title to Orton and then Bryan or someone like Reigns to chalenge him. But apparently they got something other for Bryan(from that Bo interference) and they probablly didnt wanted transitional champion again in Orton so they decided to go with another "John Cena saves the day". I am not exactly happy with that but expected it with all Cena- Lesnar talk so am not dissapointed either...

 

[NegativeFeedback]

Only other thing they could do is to give title to Orton and then Bryan or someone like Reigns to chalenge him. But apparently they got something other for Bryan(from that Bo interference) and they probablly didnt wanted transitional champion again in Orton so they decided to go with another "John Cena saves the day". I am not exactly happy with that but expected it with all Cena- Lesnar talk so am not dissapointed either...

There wasn't only 2 options. There were 8 men in that match. There were 8 ways they could have gone.

1) They could have had Cesaro win that match, then turn face at Battleground and go on to face Brock at SummerSlam.

2) They could have had Kane win the title himself and drop it to Roman at Battleground, before Roman goes on to face Randy Orton at SummerSlam. Cena can face Brock without any titles.

3) They could have had Kane surprise everyone and help Sheamus win the match instead, making Sheamus an official member of the Authority. Sheamus becomes Triple H's new golden boy and gets to rekindle his feud with Bryan for SummerSlam.

4) They could have had Alberto Del Rio surprise everyone and win that match, and then drop it to Daniel at Battleground if he's ready. And if DB isn't ready, Del Rio could go against Roman at SummerSlam. Roman gets his huge title win at a big PPV like SummerSlam, and beats someone with credibility, while still saving the money matches (vs. Orton, vs. Cena) for the fall and beyond.

5) They could have just straight up have Roman win the title tonight. Roman gets a huge rub, beats Orton 1-on-1 at Battleground and then goes on to face Triple H at SummerSlam in a huge match-up.

6) And my personal choice, they could have had Bray Wyatt win the title, and get his momentum back. The Wyatt Family take over Raw like they truly deserve to after a year of solid work, and Bray gets to rekindle his feud with Bryan which never really had closure. Bryan gets to beat Bray once and for all at SummerSlam and have a tiebreaker inside the Hell in a Cell.

There are way more options then another Orton or Cena win. We're not in 2007 anymore. There is a large cast of characters waiting to break out from the background.

 

[Jessie Lynn DivaGirl]

As we have seen tonight, and as has been stated in a current thread: John Cena has won the WWE World Heavyweight Championship Belts, making him a 15 time WHC.

I see this as a bad move on the WWE.

Before this match ever came to be, who did we have as champ? Daniel Bryan, a man who was labeled as a B-class, middle-weight underdog/nobody, who for months was ridiculed, tormented and abused verbally and physically by the Authority. He was a character easily accepted by fans, and his in-ring skills was a winover for us skeptics, nitpickers, and old-school fans. Cruelly tho, right as this character was getting started, he was caught by a severe injury that might end this man's career with a snap. So, he leaves to recuperate, and the title is left open.

Now that I have given a nice background on the former champ, I'll give a brief synopsis of the eight men chosen to climb for the title:

Sheamus- A former WHC and WWE Champ himself who is the current US Champ. He has proved many times that he is a capable champion and does well as both heel AND face.

Ceasaro- Current Paul Heyman guy, has done decently so far in changing ethnicity twice and managing to stay heel the whole time.

Alberto del Rio- Another former WHC. Had a nice slide from eh-face into good heel; not saying his face tenor was bad, it was just, eh. Like Ceasaro, has prospered from dumb storylines into being a serious performer.

Kane- The monster. Former WHC (that's three already) who has gone back to the dark side. Although, he seems to be less than excited to be working for the Authority as a puppet.

Bray Wyatt- Formerly known as Husky Harris, Bray is a cult leader. His storyline came off as something that was almost like a filler, but it has turned into a fanbase-wide phenomenon. He's got all of us in his hand.

Randy Orton- Our fourth former WHC and second former WWE Champ. Now, don't get me wrong, I did NOT want the Authority to win for the second time tonight, but take into consideration what Mr. Plan B won earlier.

Roman Reigns- Another current cult leader if you're on the Shield Tumblr tag. Former tag team champ who has risen from the ashes of his former team to pull together himself and his fans towards ultimate payback for ruining the Shield.

John Cena- A 14 time champ who's character has been shoved so far down our throats that even his Make-A-Wish* bids are starting to get annoying.

Now from the first five competitors, we could piece about three storylines from each:

1.) Stay w/ the current story w/title

2.) Change gimmick to face/heel w/title

3.) Mad w/power

So that adds up to about 15 possible storylines from those five. Pretty good, and plausible, right? Stay with me.

Now, for Randy Orton, two more can be added:

1: Authority dumps Orton
2: Authority dumps Rollins

Same thing with Roman Reigns:

1a: Joins Authority; boots out Orton
1b: Joins Authority; boots Rollins
1c: Joins Authority; destroys it from inside
2: Completely new storyline (unlikely, but it could happen)

So our standings in possible storylines sits at:

Sheamus, Ceasaro, Alberto dl Rio, Bray Wyatt, Kane- 3 (x5)

Randy Orton- 5

Roman Reigns- 7

Total: 27 Possible Storylines.

Also, 2 more for Sheamus:

1: Gives up US Title
2: Keeps US Title

Total: 29 Possible Storylines

Now let's add John Cena: 1 possible storyline.

It has been made very clear that John Cena is the forever good guy and will never change that, at least not enough to be drastic. The storyline is that he will be champ until the tyrant is gone or his is "miraculously" beaten by the built-up "unthinkable challenger" and then he'll get another shot in six months.

So the WWE had a total of 30 possible storylines. One has been overused, over-pushed and is too damn old to use again. But that is the one the WWE decided to push. 29 completely usable, plausible and good storylines down the tube. All so one guy can say that he's held a title 15 times, while most of the men in this match will go straight to the back once again, maybe never to be seen again.

Tonight was probably the biggest disappointment the WWE has shoved out so far. And it's not even July.


Leave your thoughts and opinions below.

*DISCLAIMER: I am not bashing Make-A-Wish or John Cena's wish granting AT ALL. I think outside of the ring he is one of the coolest celebs out there and I have PERONALLY see him make a wish come true for no reason other than "why not?" My point is, he's overpushed.

 

[Kodo Sawaki]

All those options you said are far stretch one. In reality there were only two and that was either putting title back on Orton as "company man" or this one. Its too early for Reigns, Kane was just there for Ortons protection, Sheamus to be "brawler", Del Rio well I dunno for what he was there, would of believe in Bray if he was build up right and on top after that Cena feud. In reality there was just Orton and Cena.

There are way more options then another Orton or Cena win. We're not in 2007 anymore. There is a large cast of characters waiting to break out from the background.

Not in this kind of build up. If it was for MiTB contract then sure, for Championship himself not really...

 

[STILLNWO4LIFE]

As I stated in an earlier thread, WWE creative has gone to complete hell. This superhero garbage that gets shoved down our throats is getting stale and makes want to quit watching quite honestly, just bite the bullet and start watching ROH religiously, at least they don't shove stuff down your throat and repeat. Cena is a mega star and has been forever but enough already, it's played out and it's just freaking terrible. Vince doesn't care because he has no real competition so we will repeatedly get low rating quality of a product as long as their is no real competition. MITB besides the contract ladder match was a huge failure as a ppv. The matches were horrible and didn't belong on the card.

 

[laodaron]

Cena is and was the only logical choice in preserving the Daniel Bryan title run. Cena loses nothing by being transitional. Kane is basically useless. And Orton is still fighting Reigns. Any younger guy would be crushed by the enormity of the WWEWHC.

Also, Cena isn't pushed more than anyone. He just spend 5 months or so putting over a young guy in the mid card and bringing him ton the WWEWHC fucking title match tonight. Give up, already.

 

[MWRedskins]

well it depends on how i feel about it. i am hoping he holds the title and drops it to one of two guys either 1) Rollins or 2) Bryan. i know some will say Lesnar, but i dont like that idea as Lesnar is a part timer and unless Lesnar drops the title a month later, giving him a title run doesnt make much sense. what does make sense is for him to either at SummerSlam beat Lesnar than lose it to Rollins who cashes in his title match or beat Lesnar than lose a month later to a returning Bryan who claims he's the true champion and Cena (wanting to prove he's the true champion) gives him a title match and Bryan wins, but i dont see the 2nd part happening. i think he either loses to Lesnar (which unless he defends his title a month later is a mistake) or he loses it to Rollins by a cash in.

 

[Chrome]

I don't care that he's a 15 time champ, he's not the legend that Flair is. But hey congrats to him...

What I am hating is that they built up Wyatt perfectly and then fed him to Cena, and now he doesn't have the credibility to win the titles. Rollins and Rusev will almost certainly be the same.

I don't want to go on about it but if Wyatt had beaten Cena in the LMS match at Payback we'd all be considering him a legit main-eventer right now. Instead Cena got a meaningless win and Wyatt is pretty much done at this point as a result.


I'm not even mad about Cena winning the title, but the fact that Wyatt and Cesaro have lost so much momentum that the crowd were struggling to get behind them just shows what a massive backward step WWE has taken. I truly wanted Roman Regins to win, but I knew Wyatt and/or Cesaro needed it more.

But hey...

right?!?!?!

There's no point in even getting mad about Cena continuing to win anymore. It's a baseless thing to do. WWE has been telling us for a long time now that it doesn't matter who manages to become very popular with the crowd. Cena will be the top guy until his body can't go anymore. It's a pity that Bryan got hurt cause he may never main event over Cena or be featured in a feud that's more important than Cena's for a while.

So is Cena now the anti authority guy? He can't stay out of storylines that have nothing to do with him....

 

[Trill Co$by]

Cena is and was the only logical choice in preserving the Daniel Bryan title run. Cena loses nothing by being transitional. Kane is basically useless. And Orton is still fighting Reigns. Any younger guy would be crushed by the enormity of the WWEWHC.

Also, Cena isn't pushed more than anyone. He just spend 5 months or so putting over a young guy in the mid card and bringing him ton the WWEWHC fucking title match tonight. Give up, already.

We're in a losing battle my friend, but if you're willing to fight to the end than so am I!

Other than giving the title to Kane and having Lesnar defeat the Streak and beat the man avenging the streak months later; Cena having the win here is the only logical thing to do. There is no way that Lesnar is going to put anybody over except already top talent. He barely did it with Eddie, so why would it be any different years later? Reigns, in my opinion, is perfectly ready for the title in terms of popularity and having the character for it; but the timing needs to be held off. I say give it to him at Survivor Series. Make that HIS event.

Cena winning, like my partner in arms said before, is the only way to not hurt someone. Wyatt would get crushed, Cesaro isn't ready though I'd have loved for it to happen, Randy is stale and can't be asked to risk getting too physical with Lesnar. Reigns could work, but he'd be better getting the title off of Lesnar than defending against him.

Del Rio's probably another great option, considering he's a somewhat accomplished MMA fighter and can get quite physical. But he's rumored to be leaving so I don't see that happening. So that leaves Kane or Cena. Kane's stock is so low that even Dixie Carter won't buy into it. So giving it to Cena doesn't hurt. Plus, Cena has no problem losing to part-timers as evident by Cena losing to the biggest part-timer of them all.

 

[Anti-IWC-Marks]

Now, in an alternate reality, where WWE is smart as hell, they would have had Kane help John win the title. And the next night, Triple H says that he loves the idea that John is champion because he makes him a lot of money. And John is just disgusted at the idea that the title is being pawned off that way. He then asks to be allowed to relinquish the title. And Triple H sends his dogs to beat him up to keep him in line. So John is a reluctant champion while Triple H is excited to keep him on top.

I like that plot line, good call.

However, I'll still be entertained by the IWC Marks who are infuriated on facebook and websites that Cena won. It makes me chuckle.

 

[SacredMesa]

Personally I had 2 thoughts about the potential outcomes of this match...

1--If Daniel Bryan can come back by the time Summerslam roles around, then give the title to Kane, as Kane is the one that "injured" Daniel in storyline and caused him to vacate the title it would make sense for it to be Kane that he takes it off of.

2--If Daniel can't come back by Summerslam, which is seems he won't, then the title had to go to Cena. Cesaro/Bray/Reigns are still to soon, although with good story build up either Reigns or Bray could be ready by Wrestlemania potentially, Del Rio is irrelevant and shouldn't even be near the title picture, and frankly unless Orton plans on going back to his Legend Killer routine I don't even want to see him on TV his Viper gimik is that boring. Cena while pretty bland to me is always dependable as a face and is someone high enough level to have a match with Brock Lesner at Summerslam especially since it's likely Bryan won't be in that PPV.


Do I like either of those options? Not really. But there wasn't much else WWE could do with Bryan injured, Punk walking out, Batista gone for the time being. The only other conceivable person would of been Triple H inserting himself into the match but then you would have a heel Triple H vs a heel Brock Lesner at Summerslam for the title, and likely pushing aside any storyline he was going to have with Reigns leading into Summerslam. There really just wasn't any great option sadly we are not in the time of Austin/Rock/Mankind/Shawn Michaels/Undertaker/Kurt Angle/Jericho/Eddie/Beniot/etc where any of 10 potential people could hold the title, either for an extended time or just as a transitional time. Sucks but it's where we are at right now.

 

[Cena Is A Punk Rocker]

The only thing that bothers me about the Cena win is the hate being spewed over it. We knew this was going to happen. They have maybe five guys they trust with the belts. Two of them were in this match. Orton had them last. Who's next? Cena.

The thing is, they are afraid to hand over the company to anyone else. No matter how much people boo, beg, bitch. It makes zero difference.

The people in charge of the company know what they want. Until the people make a serious stand against what they feel is wrong, nothing will ever change. Kind of a small reflection of our society in general.

 

[rge2010]

No issues with John Cena winning the belt. There simply was no other option. The people pissing and moaning about Cena winning the belt are the same ones who cry when an up and comer gets the belt to quick.

This looks like it is setting up a HUGE Main Event for Summerslam in John Cena vs Brock Lesnar. Lesnar has come back and beaten Triple H x2, CM Punk, Big Show and Undertaker. The only one he has failed against is John Cena so this is his chance to rectify that loss.

Smart move by WWE because beating Cena for the gold will already add to Lesnars stock. And hopefully the man to take it off Lesnar will be Roman Reigns. A star will be born.

 

[John Cena's Sweatbands]

I like that plot line, good call.

However, I'll still be entertained by the IWC Marks who are infuriated on facebook and websites that Cena won. It makes me chuckle.

I agree with this.

I'm neither here nor there with Cena. I don't hate him, nor am I ecstatic about him winning the belt. But what I dislike is simply putting the title back on him when they panic, like it makes sense....

Ok, so it looks like they are going to go with Cena vs Lesnar at SS. Can't say I was a big fan of their last match but that's just my opinion. Unless Brock has agreed to work more days in his deal, Raw, Smackdown and a couple of PPVs are going to be without a WWE World Heavyweight Champion,kinda like The Rocks reign in 2013. Which I don't like.

Alternatively, Cena beats Brock. Which makes the beating of the streak look pointless. And then we are left with a champion which the majority don't really want and are quite sick of.

Like I say, I'm not against Cena winning, but it needs to make sense. All last night did was show me that WWE are no further forward in having faith in any younger guys. And they always revert back to type when they panic.

If Wyatt had beaten Cena last month (another Cena win which didn't make sense to me) then I would have went with him to win last night. He would have had great momentum and could have made for a great feud with Daniel Bryan when he returns.

I just don't see what advantages Cena brings when champ.