Looks like X already got to this one.. But I'm just going to say I've known people who've gotten busted for ACTUALLY selling drugs, selling them to undercover cops, and have gotten off with just a serious case of probation., never seeing any serious jail time. Just saying. I'm sure something similar will happen to Jeff, and hopefully then he'll get what he needs out of this situation.
Jeff Hardy Arrested
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Looks like X already got to this one.. But I'm just going to say I've known people who've gotten busted for ACTUALLY selling drugs, selling them to undercover cops, and have gotten off with just a serious case of probation., never seeing any serious jail time. Just saying. I'm sure something similar will happen to Jeff, and hopefully then he'll get what he needs out of this situation.
WOW, you clearly know absolutely nothing about drug addiction. It isn't about discipline or willing yourself to stop---it's a DISEASE. "If he can't stand the pain he shouldn't have become a wrestler in the first place"... are you fucking serious? Guess what? All of your favorite wrestlers? Yeah, they ALLLLLL took painkillers. Painkillers are a staple of the pro wrestling business and have been for nearly 30 years.
The ignorance I'm seeing in this thread is astounding me. Please don't comment on drug addiction if you clearly know nothing about it.
blood and thunder
Occasional Pre-Show
lol jeff, does anyone else think it's weird he had steroids on him, unless he was drug running for batista or something, jeff is hardly ripped?
Doomsday Device
Pre-Show Stalwart
I have inmense respect for all the work Jeff put in WWE over the years.
But is this the third, or fourth? time that Jeff's been busted with drugs? C'mon, you'd think he learned his lesson by now. Who am I to know the reason Jeff wanted time off, but it looks to me that perhaps he wanted the time off to "deal" with these substances. Whether it was to use it, to sell it, hold it for somebody, whatever.
He deserves to be locked up for a while, I agree with others here who say this is a Jake Roberts or a Scott Hall in the making. How many opportunities did WWE give Jake and Hall to come back and they screwed it up over and over.
I dont feel sorry for the guy anymore.
But is this the third, or fourth? time that Jeff's been busted with drugs? C'mon, you'd think he learned his lesson by now. Who am I to know the reason Jeff wanted time off, but it looks to me that perhaps he wanted the time off to "deal" with these substances. Whether it was to use it, to sell it, hold it for somebody, whatever.
He deserves to be locked up for a while, I agree with others here who say this is a Jake Roberts or a Scott Hall in the making. How many opportunities did WWE give Jake and Hall to come back and they screwed it up over and over.
I dont feel sorry for the guy anymore.
Jack-Hammer
YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!!
"Sheriff Lane Carter reports the arrest of an individual on charges of trafficking in controlled prescription pills, and possession of anabolic steroids. Sheriff Carter reported a joint investigation conducted by officers from the Moore County Sheriff's Office Narcotics Unit, Moore County Sheriff's Office Select Enforcement Unit, and Fayetteville Police Department led to the arrest.
Officers executed a search warrant at a residence located at [----Adress Deleted--] near Cameron, North Carolina. During the search officers located and seized approximately 262 Vicodin prescription pills, 180 Soma prescription pills (Soma's are non-controlled prescription pills), 555 milliliters of anabolic steroids, a residual amount of powder cocaine, and items of drug paraphernalia. Vicodin and anabolic steroids are included in Schedule III within the North Carolina Controlled Substances Act. The estimated street value of the drugs seized is $2,500.00.
Arrested was:
Jeffrey Nero Hardy - 32 years of age Cameron, North Carolina
Jeffrey Nero Hardy was arrested on September 11, 2009 and charged with felony trafficking in opium, two counts of felony possession with intent to sell or deliver a Schedule III controlled substance, felony maintaining a dwelling to keep controlled substance, felony possession of cocaine, and misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia.
Jeffrey Nero Hardy received a $125,000.00 secured bond and was placed in the Moore County Detention Center.
As noted earlier, Jeff was bailed out earlier today by his brother Matt."
That's a issued by the sheriff's office. So, while it's easy to assume that Hardy is also doing drugs, it's purely speculation. He's been arrested on trafficking and possession, there's no mention thus far of him being under the influence of any of the stuff they found in his home. So, wrestling isn't really his passion right now but this is? It's been said but it needs to be said again. This guy is an absolute fucking moron. I'm just really disappointed in the guy, not necessarily as much by the fact that this is the path he's chosen but more for what he's thrown away for this.
I still enjoyed watching the guy in the ring, but I have a feeling that his wrestling career may well be over after this.
Now, of course here come the inevitable claims about Vince and the Wellness Policy and all this and that. From what I understand about the policy, the wrestlers are randomly tested and pretty much have to pee in a cup right then and there. Given his past, I'm sure the WWE has tested him a few times since his return. Remember, there's nothing in the sheriff's statement to suggest that he's been doing any of the stuff, just trafficking them. At least, that's how it is for now.
Officers executed a search warrant at a residence located at [----Adress Deleted--] near Cameron, North Carolina. During the search officers located and seized approximately 262 Vicodin prescription pills, 180 Soma prescription pills (Soma's are non-controlled prescription pills), 555 milliliters of anabolic steroids, a residual amount of powder cocaine, and items of drug paraphernalia. Vicodin and anabolic steroids are included in Schedule III within the North Carolina Controlled Substances Act. The estimated street value of the drugs seized is $2,500.00.
Arrested was:
Jeffrey Nero Hardy - 32 years of age Cameron, North Carolina
Jeffrey Nero Hardy was arrested on September 11, 2009 and charged with felony trafficking in opium, two counts of felony possession with intent to sell or deliver a Schedule III controlled substance, felony maintaining a dwelling to keep controlled substance, felony possession of cocaine, and misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia.
Jeffrey Nero Hardy received a $125,000.00 secured bond and was placed in the Moore County Detention Center.
As noted earlier, Jeff was bailed out earlier today by his brother Matt."
That's a issued by the sheriff's office. So, while it's easy to assume that Hardy is also doing drugs, it's purely speculation. He's been arrested on trafficking and possession, there's no mention thus far of him being under the influence of any of the stuff they found in his home. So, wrestling isn't really his passion right now but this is? It's been said but it needs to be said again. This guy is an absolute fucking moron. I'm just really disappointed in the guy, not necessarily as much by the fact that this is the path he's chosen but more for what he's thrown away for this.
I still enjoyed watching the guy in the ring, but I have a feeling that his wrestling career may well be over after this.
Now, of course here come the inevitable claims about Vince and the Wellness Policy and all this and that. From what I understand about the policy, the wrestlers are randomly tested and pretty much have to pee in a cup right then and there. Given his past, I'm sure the WWE has tested him a few times since his return. Remember, there's nothing in the sheriff's statement to suggest that he's been doing any of the stuff, just trafficking them. At least, that's how it is for now.
I don't get this thought process at all. What would imprisoning Jeff Hardy accomplish? Absolutely nothing. Drug use is a victimless crime (assuming he wasn't dealing), and every study shows that rehabilitation helps reduce recidivism rates more than imprisonment. Hardy should be ordered by a court to an in-house rehab (which is still "locked up" really, you're still there against your will) for treatment. Whether that treatment would work or not, I don't know, but it sure as fuck would be a better option than just throwing him in a jail cell, where he can get drugs just as easily as if he were on the streets.
wwe fan2009
Pre-Show Stalwart
why do you think he left, so he could do drugs. I hope wwe never lets him back, if they do they should never give him the world/wwe title cause of this. if wwe wants to gear toward kids, dont give a drug addict the belt, thats saying to the kids its okay to do drugs. im glad jeff is gone
I'm going to say this again so everyone can get the chance to see it this time...
And to everyone here, none of you seem to understand very much about the law, especially when it comes to drugs. The fact that Jeff Hardy was charged with intent to sell/deliver DOES NOT mean he was actually selling/dealing drugs! ANY TIME you are caught with a certain large amount of drugs, you are ALWAYS charged with intent to sell, regardless of if you sell or not. Please people, know what you're talking about here. I wouldn't be surprised if Hardy was supplying some painkillers to fellow wrestlers, but right now there is no evidence to suggest that. I wouldn't be shocked if that large amount of drugs was simply his long term stash, he's got money so he likely buys in bulk.
It's much more likely that the drugs were a part of Hardy's stash than him trafficking it. Again, ANY time you are caught with that much stuff, you are always immediately charged with trafficking, regardless of if you actually sell or not. Anyone with any familiarity with drug laws should know this.
How can you not believe this story? The damn sheriff's department that arrested him already released a press statement! This isn't some rumor, this is verified FACT. His mugshot has been released for God's sake!
I should've said "illegal drugs," but I thought that would have been redundant. Yes, painkillers can be necessary. They can also be prescribed. Cocaine kills more than pain.
Glad you like to spit out slogans like "DRUG ADDICTION IS A DISEASE!". It's a self-inflicted disease, it's a mental disease that you can fight, and what is rehab but trying to enhance willpower, to motivate someone to stay away from drugs? My dad dealt with alcoholism and nicotine addiction, and he beat both cold-turkey.
Hardy should've had the maturity:
1. To never have tried any illegal drugs in the first place, especially cocaine, and:
2. Never to have gone back to drug use once he stopped. Avoiding snorting another line after several months is much, much easier than stopping in the first place, and Hardy, a national icon, is pretty pathetic for his status if he can't do the former.
You probably call people that take an opposite stance on an issue "stupid" just because they have that stance.
teamextreme1015
Dark Match Winner
we all saw this commming since he came back. it was just a matter of time till he fucked up his life once again. now i highly doubt vince will take him back and his only hope of continuing to wrestle is to join tna or ROH. it would be nice to see him in tna with the main event mafia.
Jeez, you guys are harsh. Listen, if you think for one second this would hurt Jeff's chances at coming back to the WWE, you're nuts. I'm not saying it's going to happen soon, but Vince isn't going to turn away one of his most over stars because he got busted for painkillers. And here's another thing to you all you judgmental people out there - do you honestly think Jeff's the only one doing this stuff? Give the guy a break. He likes to have a good time and last time I checked he had no responsibilities and no one to take care of but himself. Get over it. I hope the best for Jeff as he's entertained me for years and don't forget he's done the same for you.
Doomsday Device
Pre-Show Stalwart
To xfear-
Sure thats what I meant, I may have just typed my thoughts too quick, and I just found about this now getting home, so it ticked me off because I was to myself thinking "again?"
Sure rehabilitation all the way.
But if he keeps getting caught and bailed out and get caught and bailed out this cycle may never end.
Sure thats what I meant, I may have just typed my thoughts too quick, and I just found about this now getting home, so it ticked me off because I was to myself thinking "again?"
Sure rehabilitation all the way.
But if he keeps getting caught and bailed out and get caught and bailed out this cycle may never end.
You're right. Except they didn't find a felony amount of cocaine. No, they found a residual amount of cocaine, which means they found a couple of specks of dust basically. That could be months old. It's not like they found an eight ball in his house.
I guess if you consider truth to be "slogans", than yeah, I do like to spit out the truth.
Right. So by that logic, I guess that means depression isn't an illness either? How does one "cure" depression? Therapy. How does one "cure" addiction? Therapy. It's the same situation. And if your father dealt with alcoholism and nicotine, guess what, he likely still craves both of things on a daily basis. Addiction is a lifelong battle.
Addiction IS a disease.
Again---RESIDUAL amount of cocaine. Read the article before jumping to conclusions.
When they're arguing against science, than yes, I think "stupid" is a rather fitting description.
It must be nice to be so in control and have no flaws that you can feel so free to judge other people and act like you know what's going on in Jeff's (and countless other people saddled with this problem's) head. Kudos to you man. I wish I could be so awesome.
Hey xfear - I just want to give you credit for actually showing some empathy for someone who has spent the better part of his life entertaining us. At least there's someone on this forum with a little compassion.
Hey xfear - I just want to give you credit for actually showing some empathy for someone who has spent the better part of his life entertaining us. At least there's someone on this forum with a little compassion.
Thanks. I've spent a good portion of my life surrounded by drug addiction and alcoholism, and have struggled with it myself, so I like to think I probably have a better perspective on the topic than your average joe who thinks addicts are "selfish" for not quitting. It's not that simple, it truly is a mental illness, no different from depression or any other disorder. To those who think it's all in their heads, I point you to the fact that it has been proven that addiction issues can be genetically passed down to the next generation.
Seriously. Look, I've probably been one of Jeff's biggest critics on this forum, but there's no reason to insult him if he's in as bad of shape as it's starting to look like he is. This arrest is another example of why I feel wrestlers should be allowed to use medical marijuana prescribed by doctors; it's SO much safer than painkillers, without any of the negative side effects drugs like Vicodin or Oxycontin give you.
samboisdead
Pre-Show Stalwart
First off you cant say all wrestlers were addicted to painkillers. You might say all have took them at one time or another but taking ones prescribed by a doctor and just taking them is very diffrent. Second glad to no your so proud of knowing all about drugs. To call people idiots for not knowing all about them is pretty dumb. Third we will see how much time he gets. I dont live far from where this happened. This is the Bible belt he is a celebrity and they will do everything they can to make an example of him. Last but not least drug addiction a disease? Cmon man give me a break only druggies use that lame excuse.
Well said, friend. I can't tell you how many clean and sober people I know whose first steps were taken at an in-patient rehab facility. Same goes for out-patient as well.
I don't think his actions deserve imprisonment unless he was trafficking, which I highly doubt. Hopefully he gets court-ordered for 30 days in rehab. He needs it. So do his family and friends.
I don't think X is proud of it, I think he's just simply saying, you don't know what it's like. I'm not a "druggie," and I said pretty much the same thing. Granted I've smoked my share of pot, and have drank [drunken?] my share of alcohol over the years, and in no way have I had any serious addictions, but you if you haven't yourself been addicted or had someone close to you with serious addictions, and you obviously haven't, you just don't know what it's like. That's all I'm saying.
I didn't say all wrestlers were addicted to painkillers, I said just about every major wrestling figure has used painkillers. I seriously hope you aren't trying to dispute that.
I'm not calling them idiots for not knowing about it. I'm calling people idiots for ACTING like they know all about it (like you did), and saying something that's just blatantly false and downright ridiculous, such as you saying that Hardy is going to get 10-15 years. That's absurd.
10-15 years for a few hundred Vicodin? Again, it's blatantly obvious you aren't familiar with drug laws or enforcement whatsoever.
Yeah, druggies and scientists. Are we going to get into an argument over science now? Is that really the road you want to go down?
And what does a residual amount of cocaine imply? Either he's snorting a minimal amount of cocaine, which, given his addiction, isn't likely, he's selling the cocaine, which isn't likely, or he's already snorted most of the cocaine, and has more cocaine pending or stashed somewhere else. Or, he only had a small amount of cocaine remaining, and rather than go get more, he led the police to discover him in a cry for help.
I guess if you consider one-sentence generalizations on a complex issues as "truth," then yeah, you like to spit out generalizations.
I never said addiction WASN'T a disease--in fact, I said it was. The difference between addiction and depression is that one starts an addiction (with cocaine, specifically) by deliberately using a drug repeatedly, even when it's counterproductive to the obligations one has.
Sure, Hardy made a mistake to begin with. I'm fine with that. He gave into his cravings once again, I'm tentative on that. Then, just as he became one of the top stars in the company and became World Champion, he gave into his addictions one more time. If Hardy is to deserve his main-event status in the first place, he should have the discipline not to give into his cravings.
I'm not "arguing against science," which, by the way, doesn't penetrate fully into every aspect of life. I must be "arguing against science" if I say someone shouldn't have sex if they have AIDS, even though their inner impulses tell them they should.
I'm talking about restraint.
The rough majority of people in this thread agree that they're disappointed Hardy has been caught with drugs yet again. You opt not to call them stupid, but you call someone that has more articulation to support the same belief stupid?
They fond a residual amount of cocaine in his home, that doesn't necessarily mean he was using it. You made it sound as though he's a cokehead, when all they found was a few specks. I'm not saying he didn't have more cocaine previously, but you were overblowing the situation with the cocaine.
What generalization is that?
Again you are making it sound as though one can just will themselves to stop using drugs by snapping their fingers and saying "Okay, time to take responsibility for my actions!" It's not that simple.
This thread isn't about his main event status, and I never commented on his main event status in relation to this.
But again, you say "he should have the discipline not to give into his cravings", again showing you think addiction is something you can just snap your fingers and say "Okay time to stop now!"
That's completely different. Being horny isn't a mental illness, is it?
I know. Which is why I said you're wrong. Restraint has nothing to do with it.
Except I didn't attack you for being disappointed that Hardy was caught with drugs. I addressed the fact that your post made it sound like you believe addiction is something you can just get over with a little bit of will-power.
schaeffershawn
Pre-Show Stalwart
I know I will get flagged and banned again for this, but this is teh funniest thing I have ever heard. I have never though much of hardy. I do not hide that at all, and while I am glad i will never have to watch teh glorrified spot moneky in a ring aagin, having a parent who died because of hiss drug addiction I do hope Hardy gets help.
I realize it is an illness, but there is a degree of selfishness in the addicts behaviour, because they never consdier the pain it puts their friends and family through. To the person who said drug use was a victimless crime. Lets ask Matt if he feels like a victim watching his beloved brother trashing his life.
In the end the truth is Punk was right, jeff is going to end up just being a statistic and another wrestling tragedy.
I realize it is an illness, but there is a degree of selfishness in the addicts behaviour, because they never consdier the pain it puts their friends and family through. To the person who said drug use was a victimless crime. Lets ask Matt if he feels like a victim watching his beloved brother trashing his life.
In the end the truth is Punk was right, jeff is going to end up just being a statistic and another wrestling tragedy.
Banned again? Did you have a previous account on here that was banned?
I said drug USE is a victimless crime. Not drug ABUSE. Very, very different things.