IWC Goin Global

[wrestlingfan]

Now I know I myself is part of that 10%, part of those critics, part of those many see to be irrelevant that is the Internet Wrestling Coummunity. The IWC even though being the minority are the most out spoken in the professional wrestling community. Some simply limit themselves to just discussing on forums, others either make blogs. But fact of the matter is they're not getting heard. The IWC, really need to go global, go viral, go mogul in other words. If they wan't to be heard, I suggest turning their blogs and such into actual acts of journalism, Someone needs to speak for the IWC.

 

[wrestlingfan]

Well really what I want to be when I grow up is a Physicist/Technologist and maybe do some rapping and writing books on the side time but I do have a passion for Wrestling (and MMA). I do think someone needs to speak for the IWC, and I would be willing to be that person in the near future.

 

[t619]

IWC Should fund and run there own company.

IT Would non-stop LOL moments.

 

[LigerBomb]

No offense to cretins everywhere but this is pretty ******ed. Let's count the ways:

Before we get started might I suggest a bit of proofreading?
It really goes a long way. Making posts easier on the reader
ultimately makes the author look competent; but I digress.
Moving on:

Now I know I myself is part of that 10%, part of those critics, part of those many see to be irrelevant that is the Internet Wrestling Coummunity.

1. People don't "see" the IWC as being irrelevant; they ARE irrelevant. You yourself put them at about 10% of the total audience/fan-base. What business savvy person would cater to such a miniscule part of their revenue stream? Sure, if that 10% was somehow responsible for 90% of profits there would be a point but that simply is not the case. Quite the opposite in fact.

The IWC even though being the minority are the most out spoken in the professional wrestling community. Some simply limit themselves to just discussing on forums, others either make blogs.

They "either make blogs" …OR they what…? What else do they do?

But fact of the matter is they're not getting heard.

2. If they are the MOST OUTSPOKEN surely people are aware of them and their ideas; No? More than likely those in charge simply don't care. (See no. 1 above.) Hearing and listening are very different things.

The IWC, really need to go global, go viral, go mogul in other words.

No sarcasm: What does "go mogul" imply and entail?
And does it require the IWC to leave their parents' basements?
If so, I foresee major complications. (That last bit was sarcasm.)

If they wan't to be heard, I suggest turning their blogs and such into actual acts of journalism, Someone needs to speak for the IWC.

   Journalism
–noun 1.the occupation of reporting, writing, editing, photographing, or broadcasting news or of conducting any news organization as a business.
2.press
3.n/a
4.writing that reflects superficial thought and research, a popular slant, and hurried composition, conceived of as exemplifying topical newspaper or popular magazine writing as distinguished from scholarly writing: He calls himself a historian, but his books are mere journalism.

3. As you can see from the above definitions the IWC (to varying degrees) already is a journalistic endeavor in many respects. In fact guys like Meltzer and Alvarez have even turned it into a business.

"Someone need to speak for the IWC"?

EVERY time a member OF THE IWC speaks, writes, tweets, blogs, reviews, etc. SOMEONE IS SPEAKING FOR THE IWC. As such I really must insist again that the IWC's voice is indeed heard loud and clear. Your postulation, then, is false. Accordingly, any successive premise based on said fallacy is at best up for serious debate and at worst so worthless as to not even be wrong.

Meh, I lost count. Anyway, the main problem, as I see it, is that the IWC's opinions and ideas often (but not always) fly in the face of what the masses would prefer to see and consequently spend money on. Now since wrestling is a business it's in the businesses' best interests to follow the money trail.

Let us also not forget that (most) people are extremely lazy. Since the silent majority keeps their discontent to themselves and/or is mostly accepting of "business as usual" the remaining vocal minority will forever be seen as the fringe group, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing .

That said, even if the majority's quibbles were heard and subsequently ameliorated, thereby theoretically increasing profits, chances are their wants would be in stark contrast to the wants put forth by the fringe. This would potentially push the IWC even further down the list of relevance as businesses would have even less reason to consider the outsider perspective.

Ultimately I just can't agree with what it is your proposing let alone the notion of the accompanying "solution".

 

[wrestlingfan]

No offense to cretins everywhere but this is pretty ******ed. Let's count the ways:

Before we get started might I suggest a bit of proofreading?
It really goes a long way. Making posts easier on the reader
ultimately makes the author look competent; but I digress.
Moving on:


1. People don't "see" the IWC as being irrelevant; they ARE irrelevant. You yourself put them at about 10% of the total audience/fan-base. What business savvy person would cater to such a miniscule part of their revenue stream? Sure, if that 10% was somehow responsible for 90% of profits there would be a point but that simply is not the case. Quite the opposite in fact.
They "either make blogs" …OR they what…? What else do they do?
2. If they are the MOST OUTSPOKEN surely people are aware of them and their ideas; No? More than likely those in charge simply don't care. (See no. 1 above.) Hearing and listening are very different things.
No sarcasm: What does "go mogul" imply and entail?
And does it require the IWC to leave their parents' basements?
If so, I foresee major complications. (That last bit was sarcasm.)

   Journalism
–noun 1.the occupation of reporting, writing, editing, photographing, or broadcasting news or of conducting any news organization as a business.
2.press
3.n/a
4.writing that reflects superficial thought and research, a popular slant, and hurried composition, conceived of as exemplifying topical newspaper or popular magazine writing as distinguished from scholarly writing: He calls himself a historian, but his books are mere journalism.

3. As you can see from the above definitions the IWC (to varying degrees) already is a journalistic endeavor in many respects. In fact guys like Meltzer and Alvarez have even turned it into a business.

"Someone need to speak for the IWC"?

EVERY time a member OF THE IWC speaks, writes, tweets, blogs, reviews, etc. SOMEONE IS SPEAKING FOR THE IWC. As such I really must insist again that the IWC's voice is indeed heard loud and clear. Your postulation, then, is false. Accordingly, any successive premise based on said fallacy is at best up for serious debate and at worst so worthless as to not even be wrong.

Meh, I lost count. Anyway, the main problem, as I see it, is that the IWC's opinions and ideas often (but not always) fly in the face of what the masses would prefer to see and consequently spend money on. Now since wrestling is a business it's in the businesses' best interests to follow the money trail.

Let us also not forget that (most) people are extremely lazy. Since the silent majority keeps their discontent to themselves and/or is mostly accepting of "business as usual" the remaining vocal minority will forever be seen as the fringe group, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing .

That said, even if the majority's quibbles were heard and subsequently ameliorated, thereby theoretically increasing profits, chances are their wants would be in stark contrast to the wants put forth by the fringe. This would potentially push the IWC even further down the list of relevance as businesses would have even less reason to consider the outsider perspective.

Ultimately I just can't agree with what it is your proposing let alone the notion of the accompanying "solution".

I'm just saying. Most of the IWC just sit around all day, discussing, tweeting, making blogs, so that others like them can hear, and hope maybe some Creative Writer may snoop around and find it. I just feel if the IWC really want to get heard they need to go professional with their work and actually turn their blogs into real things you can find in the new stand (just using that as an example)

 

[Jack-Hammer]

When it comes to the IWC, there can be no "voice" for them just as there can be no single unified "voice" for professional wrestling in and of itself. The IWC in and of itself is a hodgepodge of opinions, criticisms, rants and often unrealistic ideas that can't mesh into one cohesive collective.

Some of us just like to talk about wrestling, some of us like to play armchair booker, some of us like to critique, some of us like to rave about about anything and everything and on and on it goes. A good portion of the IWC are simply impossible to please because they seem to only accept or like something if it plays out exactly as they think it should. If it's not up to the usually unrealistic standards they've set in their own minds and if it deviates to any degree from the image they have, they shit all over it. That's just simply how it is and those are generally the fans that do the most to making the IWC look so much like a joke.

As has already been said, the IWC represents, at most, 10% of the wrestling audience. And it's a 10% that has no semblance of solidified unity apart from the commonality that they all like to speak their minds on any and all things wrestling. Why should the WWE, TNA or anyone else for that matter cater to a small fraction of the audience and run the risk of isolating the majority of their audience? It makes no sense from a logical or even an economic sense. A huge failing among the IWC are the ones that want to overlook the fact that pro wrestling is a business and those in charge of wrestling companies are going to do what they think is going to make them the most money. It's not a fantasy league designed to cater to the whims of internet fans, which often change like the weather. For instance, why is John Cena the WWE Champion and top face of the company? Because he's a draw. He makes money and he consistently generates lots of interest from the vast majority of the WWE audience to one degree or another. Love him or hate him, people tune in and watch him. The IWC in general might despise the ground he walks on but they make up a tiny fraction of the audience. Zack Ryder might appeal more to that tiny fraction overall than John Cena does but, despite the pro Ryder propoganda you might read online, Ryder isn't nearly as over with the other 90+% of the WWE audience as they say.

 

[wrestlingfan]

When it comes to the IWC, there can be no "voice" for them just as there can be no single unified "voice" for professional wrestling in and of itself. The IWC in and of itself is a hodgepodge of opinions, criticisms, rants and often unrealistic ideas that can't mesh into one cohesive collective.

Some of us just like to talk about wrestling, some of us like to play armchair booker, some of us like to critique, some of us like to rave about about anything and everything and on and on it goes. A good portion of the IWC are simply impossible to please because they seem to only accept or like something if it plays out exactly as they think it should. If it's not up to the usually unrealistic standards they've set in their own minds and if it deviates to any degree from the image they have, they shit all over it. That's just simply how it is and those are generally the fans that do the most to making the IWC look so much like a joke.

As has already been said, the IWC represents, at most, 10% of the wrestling audience. And it's a 10% that has no semblance of solidified unity apart from the commonality that they all like to speak their minds on any and all things wrestling. Why should the WWE, TNA or anyone else for that matter cater to a small fraction of the audience and run the risk of isolating the majority of their audience? It makes no sense from a logical or even an economic sense. A huge failing among the IWC are the ones that want to overlook the fact that pro wrestling is a business and those in charge of wrestling companies are going to do what they think is going to make them the most money. It's not a fantasy league designed to cater to the whims of internet fans, which often change like the weather. For instance, why is John Cena the WWE Champion and top face of the company? Because he's a draw. He makes money and he consistently generates lots of interest from the vast majority of the WWE audience to one degree or another. Love him or hate him, people tune in and watch him. The IWC in general might despise the ground he walks on but they make up a tiny fraction of the audience. Zack Ryder might appeal more to that tiny fraction overall than John Cena does but, despite the pro Ryder propoganda you might read online, Ryder isn't nearly as over with the other 90+% of the WWE audience as they say.

So basically what you're trying to say is even though my idea makes sense and is possibly good, companies wouldn't listen to the unrealistic views of the IWC. But what if those views could become realistic?