It's a work (Zack Ryder)

[knocturnal]

Hasn't anyone realized Ryder complaining is just a storyline setup by the WWE and Ryder. If you've paid attention the past week or two anytime Ryder has been on TV it has been mentioned how verbal he has been online about not being booked for Wrestlemania in his own backyard. This has happened MULTIPLE times on TV and I seriously doubt that the commentators would continuously bring that up without being given the Okay from the powers that be.

With a month to go and only three or four matches set in stone why would anyone complain about a card that has yet to be finalized more than a month before the event.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Yeah, I agree. Zack Ryder, who they haven't pushed in over a year and who they gave a pity title reign to based on popularity he no longer has, is going emerge on Raw any week now to be booked in a match at Mania.

I bet the card was finalized months ago and Ryder was never in their plans. He's complaining because he thinks it's late 2011 still and he feels he deserves pushing.

 

[MrMojoRisin]

Hasn't anyone realized Ryder complaining is just a storyline setup by the WWE and Ryder. If you've paid attention the past week or two anytime Ryder has been on TV it has been mentioned how verbal he has been online about not being booked for Wrestlemania in his own backyard. This has happened MULTIPLE times on TV and I seriously doubt that the commentators would continuously bring that up without being given the Okay from the powers that be.

With a month to go and only three or four matches set in stone why would anyone complain about a card that has yet to be finalized more than a month before the event.

Don't kid yourself. The card was finalized a long time ago. Probably 3 or 4 different potential cards.

But I agree that his complaining is a work... especially since it's getting brought up on TV as well. At least for his sake I hope it's a work. A guy that whines like he does... if he's being legit he's probably best off getting some second career training, because he won't be able to make a living as a professional wrestler much longer with that attitude. I can't imagine who that's worthwhile would want to book a headache like that.

 

[knocturnal]

Yeah, I agree. Zack Ryder, who they haven't pushed in over a year and who they gave a pity title reign to based on popularity he no longer has, is going emerge on Raw any week now to be booked in a match at Mania.

I bet the card was finalized months ago and Ryder was never in their plans. He's complaining because he thinks it's late 2011 still and he feels he deserves pushing.

I just can't see him being that stupid to go that route. I'm not saying he is going to end up with a match at Mania (even though he stands a chance with whatever throwaway match they put together to get some of the guys on the card like a battle royal, ladder match, multi team tag match, etc. ) but I do see this as something he and the WWE are both working on to work the IWC.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Of coarse it's a work. He's the leader of the Shield! And it's an injustice that guys like Sheamus, Cena, Ryback, & Orton all have what Ryder feels he deserves.


Now I'm not being 100% serious, but I wouldn't be upset if I was right. Cause it's not the worst idea ever.

 

[DX Mols]

I honestly stopped caring about Zack Ryder a long time ago just like everyone in the WWE Creative department. I really don't get what got this guy over in the first place. I mean the Woo Woo Woo catchphrase was good, but that's about it bro.

 

[King Patrick Star]

I thought his “Push Me” wrestling tights was a work. Similar to Ultimate Warrior’s wrestling tights that read, “More important than this” and it was a picture of the Winged Eagle.

Zack Ryder should just defend his Internet Championship on YouTube and WWE.com and start an undefeated streak of his own. He gets his push and he’s not in the way of live TV. Win – Win for everyone.

 

[Charismatic Enigma]

What got him over in the first place was the fact that at the time he started Z! True Long Island Story, there was nothing like it on the internet. He single-handedly capitalized on a huge social media market that up until that point WWE had virtually ignored. Not to mention in the very beginning (like, the first 20 episodes) Z! was hilarious. Him trying to climb over a fence "I'm trying to get over!" etc. was gold, and it worked for him, he got noticed. We all liked it, anyone saying they didn't is probably kidding themselves.

The thing is, the shtick got old quickly. WWE didn't push him correctly, and for his part Zack didn't evolve his character. The catch phrases started to become worn out and made him appear one dimensional. He needed to make a shift, or they should've played the angle with Eve differently or something. Making him the perennial underdog was a bad move, in my opinion. Everyone wanted to see him do good, and they made him this hard luck story, which was a bad call since he is a charismatic natural baby face. As opposed to a forced one like Miz, who is a natural heel.

I have no doubt what is currently happening with Zack is a work, and it wouldn't surprise me if he gets a push out of nowhere. Did anyone see Swagger coming back and winning Elimination Chamber within 2 weeks of his return to main event WM? However, if they don't make a MASSIVE change in Zack's character this push won't be any more effective than the last one, and then I think his time really may be up. The only thing that might save him is the fact he sells as much merch as he does.

 

[akathelaw]

He had the US Title, what does he want next? Ryder's in the same spot Kofi Kingston's in, but Kofi doesn't complain. It's gotta be exhausting being a Ryder fan when the guy isn't even a fan of his own work.

Ryder could go to TNA, 90 days after his release like Jeff Hardy did, spike their weekly Neilsen rating and get a title run in either the X-Division, tag teaming with Robbie E or maybe even debut an Internet Championship (later to be renamed the "Legends" title). It won't change the fact that he did not live up to his own hype, and the only difference between boring midcard Ryder and main event Ryder is the finish of his matches.

 

[MrMojoRisin]

If it isn't a work then maybe he is frustrated and he wants to be included in annual post Wrestlemania spring cleaning on the roster.

If that's the case, then he's an unprofessional goof and it's not going to be long before no promotion anywhere is going to want to waste their time with him.

If you're not happy with your position in the company, you don't complain about it in public to the point that you even publicly put your boss on the spot. Instead of trying to get fired, he'd be better off asking for his release, and then doing what so many before him have done... and going to other promotions to work on his craft. Go to Japan. Go to Puerto Rico. Go to Mexico. Europe. The indy's. Be proactive, show the office you've got the right attitude, and eventually if he wants, he'd come back... and likely in a far better spot than he was before.

Like I said before. For his sake, I'd hope this is a work.

 

[closet_fan]

At first I thought it was legit. But after Cole specifically stated that Ryder was complaining through social media, I knew it was a work.

The biggest problem Ryder had going against him was when Jersey Shore ended. While that was on, it was being parodied everywhere and made being a d-bag popular. Once MTV ended it, the fad ended and now Ryder looks like an idiot.

There is still plenty of time to build this and get him on the card somehow, although I don't know who he'd face to bring the storyline to it's peak.

If they are pushing him again, he has to get rid of that character.

 

[kally96]

Seriously Ryder complaining is really annoying me. If this isn't a storyline then I really hope he does leave. Ryder isn't the worst wrestler but he isn't the best. Its actually getting annoying him begging to get a push, like why cant he just work hard like the other wrestlers ? he had one little good run and because he started selling merchandise he just thinks he's at the top of the leagues. The only reason I think he got that little push was because the fans wanted someone different and it just so unfortunately so happened to be him. Simply, work harder like the rest and stop begging.

 

[sTyLnK]

I think the WWE is trying to see how everyone reacts to Ryder being frustrated. See if that sets up any sort of spark again. But the thing is, no one actually cares. So, I get the feeling this will go on a little longer, up until WM and if people still don't care, that will be it for the guy. He'll grovel in some small projects with the WWE and then eventually the company will see him as not being worth being kept on the roster, and it'll be all she wrote for him.

I'm not much of a fan of his work at all. I hate his catch phrase, I hate his gimmick, but I do like how he took it upon himself to make a name for himself. That shows ambition. But that will only get you so far in the company. You need something that people can latch onto and continue to latch onto. His gimmick doesn't do that. Short term it did, but long term, it just isn't going to work.

 

[ABMorales787]

Ryder is still employed by WWE? I'm surprised he didn't make the jump to Cartoon Network. I hear they're taking crappy Youtube shows.

His complaints are obviously going to fall on deaf ears. He's a guy who built up his popularity by using an internet show. You know what the problem with that is, right? He's supposed to be a wrestler. You become successful as a wrestler by..... how to put it..... Doing stuff in a wrestling show. Not on Youtube. He got over with the wrong audience. Now he has to deal with it.

 

[flawd101]

damn, the difference a year makes. that's ryder's character. he complains. new york might be the only crowd that really still chants for him.
i hope to see ryder in the wrestlemania preshow. As someone pointed out. his complaints and fueds have been online. also he has over a million twitter followers. an online match that will give the nyc/nj crowd the curtain jerk of their dreams. it really isn't rocket science. it is actually their best option. he is one of the wwes best jobbers. why drop him.

Of coarse it's a work. He's the leader of the Shield! And it's an injustice that guys like Sheamus, Cena, Ryback, & Orton all have what Ryder feels he deserves.

that would be sssiiiccckkk!!! but seriously, heel turn is not the worst idea. but he would never get the push.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I've never bought into Ryder's complaints. Ryder has been bitching & moaning for the better part of a year when it comes to his role in WWE, or at least it seems that way.

Going online and legitimately blasting the company he's working for is a guarantee that he's not going to be pushed or used in any relevant manner beyond a glorified jobber. Ryder has been in WWE since his early 20s and, even if he hadn't, anyone with any shred of common sense knows you don't.

There've been rumors and talk of Ryder being repackaged at some point and I think that's what all this "complaining" is ultimately leading to.

 

[Da Solo]

Ryder's been getting buried for about a year now, it's not a work. WWE can't even invest in a group like the Nexus for longer than one of the big 4 PPV's, why would they put so much thought into letting Ryder brood like that?

It's happened before. When the Cena/Riley story leaked, he got a win over Ziggler on RAW. When JTG went and complained for the jobbers, he got on TV albeit a short match w/ Ryback. Ryder is probably looking for the same effect. He's probably gonna get Matt Hardy'd and lose his job for complaining but more power to him for trying.

 

[Pedigree1]

I will keep this short and sweet. I dont think its a work at all. Yes Zack has 1 million twitter followers but can you imagine if this dork was WWE champion. Really i dont think so. If he is so damn unhappy ask for you immediate release and go to Japan,Mexico,or TNA! Zack is a goof more so than Santino. Anything Zack does you cant take serious including his wrestling! Just my two cents

 

[R.K.O]

JTG's rant on twitter was mentioned by Cole too when he got squashed by Ryback so it's not certain that it's a work. For Zack's sake though it better be as it would indicate that he at least have some hope in the near future to move up the card.

 

[The Eighties]

According to Mark Madden everything that makes TV is a work, of course how much you'd actually want to use Madden as a gauge on anything pro wrestling is your own problem.

It's possible they stuck him on TV and had Cole mention his complaining while Henry squashed him as simply a "This is where your complaining will get you" message, to which Ryder would probably reply "At least I'm on Raw." He also got pretty much squashed by Cody Rhodes on Main Event this week as well.

I don't get the Ryder hate and I never got the hype, he's a solid worker with a one note gimmick who could evolve into a regular mid carder. If this is a work to reinvent him I wouldn't be overly surprised.

 

[jackall88]

I think it would make sense for them to throw him in The Shield. I mean why not use this whole "I want to be more serious and get recognized" thing to their advantage.

 

[Honkey_Kong]

If that's the case, then he's an unprofessional goof and it's not going to be long before no promotion anywhere is going to want to waste their time with him.

If you're not happy with your position in the company, you don't complain about it in public to the point that you even publicly put your boss on the spot. Instead of trying to get fired, he'd be better off asking for his release, and then doing what so many before him have done... and going to other promotions to work on his craft. Go to Japan. Go to Puerto Rico. Go to Mexico. Europe. The indy's. Be proactive, show the office you've got the right attitude, and eventually if he wants, he'd come back... and likely in a far better spot than he was before.

Like I said before. For his sake, I'd hope this is a work.

It's most definitely a work. But let's humour the angle here. Haven't you ever been stuck in a rut at work before? Where no matter how hard you try and how good you are at what you do, you get passed up for the raises and promotions while some no-talent ass clown that you're better than gets it? If you ever get a real job in your life, you'll probably see this happening (unless you're the no-talent ass-clown). It's most definitely an angle the 18-35 male demographic can relate to.

I think he'd do great in Jack Swagger's America.

 

[MrMojoRisin]

It's most definitely a work. But let's humour the angle here. Haven't you ever been stuck in a rut at work before? Where no matter how hard you try and how good you are at what you do, you get passed up for the raises and promotions while some no-talent ass clown that you're better than gets it? If you ever get a real job in your life, you'll probably see this happening (unless you're the no-talent ass-clown). It's most definitely an angle the 18-35 male demographic can relate to.

I think he'd do great in Jack Swagger's America.

If I ever get a real job in life? Interesting.

Interesting take on Ryder's angle too. That he sees himself as a guy that does his job better than most day in and day out, but keeps getting passed over by people who aren't as good as him?

It plays well into a delusional heel turn angle, because let's face it. At no point has Zach Ryder ever been better than anyone who's been pushed ahead of him. I'm biased because anytime the guy comes on TV, he's a bathroom break for me. I don't find anything interesting about the guy. To be honest, the only time I've ever been interested in anything "Long Island Iced-Z" has done, is when Kane was beating him up every week.

Give him a character change and maybe I might be able to get interested. For now though, I just see him as some entitled whiner, who thinks he's more important than he really is.

 

[Honkey_Kong]

If I ever get a real job in life? Interesting.

Interesting take on Ryder's angle too. That he sees himself as a guy that does his job better than most day in and day out, but keeps getting passed over by people who aren't as good as him?

It plays well into a delusional heel turn angle, because let's face it. At no point has Zach Ryder ever been better than anyone who's been pushed ahead of him. I'm biased because anytime the guy comes on TV, he's a bathroom break for me. I don't find anything interesting about the guy. To be honest, the only time I've ever been interested in anything "Long Island Iced-Z" has done, is when Kane was beating him up every week.

Give him a character change and maybe I might be able to get interested. For now though, I just see him as some entitled whiner, who thinks he's more important than he really is.

That's part of the whole thing, he isn't given anything to work with. He's got some ******ed My New Haircut gimmick and aside from the occasional job, you never see him on TV.

And for the record, he's a better athlete and talker than quite a few of the guys on the roster that ARE getting pushes or at the least, regular TV time.

But yeah, the unappreciated worker that gets passed up all the time and never given any sort of credit is a pretty identifiable character that he could mold in to. It'd give him a way out of his Broski gimmick. Problem is if they use it to turn him heel, unless he goes and tries to insult the fans, they're going to get behind him. Especially if he turns against Cena.

 

[sonamagun]

I like Zack, I loved his show when he was in charge of it and think he really did make a difference with social media. He added a connection that wrestling fans don't always get and he is entertaining. However, his WWE work the last 12-13 months has been horrible but I can't put all the blame on the WWE... Ryder hasn't been able to make the full connection with the fans and for that he has turned into a full time jobber again. The Ryder in 2011 and even the heel during his time in WWEECW was good. He has a real knowledge for WWF days and I hope things work out for him. I loved the tights this past RAW and completely agree this is a work. There is no way they'd allow him to wear those if it wasn't.