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Dean vs Seth HIAC match is well behind us, giving us a non-clean finish. Seth is seemingly moving on to Orton, while Dean is getting his hands full with Bray Wyatt. I've been reading the comments for the past 2 days and everyone is saying about how Dean vs Seth ending was awful with Bray interfering etc, that the finish was bad, that those two had to have a clean finish with Dean getting his revenge etc. And I totally don't get it. I don't get why people think this. It is obvious that those two will collide again, soon. How can you not see it?

Last year, Daniel Bryan was well on his way to win the title etc, but towards the end of the year, he started feuding with the Wyatt family for almost a month. After he finished his program with Bray (which he lost), he continued on his track and hunt for the title. The same will probably happen with Dean. As soon as his feud with Bray ends (might take till the Rumble or something), Dean will focus back on Seth, who will probably end his feud with Orton. Eventually, on the road to WM31, Dean and Seth will still be at each other's face as the main feud.

The way I imagine this, if they want to go with Reigns vs Lesnar for the WM31 main event, I can easily see Dean vs Seth happening at WM31 in another HIAC match. The match that "never ended" happens again, this time without interferences etc. Dean finally gets his big win in a convincing fashion, destroying Seth. Later on, Reigns beats Lesnar and out of nowhere, the seemingly destroyed Seth cashes in and becomes the new champ. The next night, we get a feud for the title between the three members of the Shield, which is possibly the ideal thing to happen.

Even though I don't totally agree with Reigns getting the title push, he seems the only guy to do this, because he is the third member of the former Shield. If they decide to go without someone else, let's say Cesaro, Bray Wyatt or whoever else, Seth can either cash in or not cash in his contract. The bottom line is that at WM31, we get the HIAC (or maybe even an 1 hour iron man match) between Dean and Seth that "never ended", Seth gets destroyed and later that night cashes in and wins the title, a la Jericho. To put the icing on the cake, the cash in can happen on Reigns, setting the feud we all want to see between those three guys.
 
It is obvious that Ambrose and Rollins is being saved for a later date. How and when Seth cashes in, I have no idea, but Reigns defeating Lesnar is a possibility - which sucks.

I assume Wyatt and Ambrose feud the next couple months and then Rollins and Dean face off at WM 31. I had no issue with the finish and rather see Wyatt interfere then Rollins win relatively clean as the feud is kind of getting stale and won't be given the attention it needs till WM anyway.
 
They'll pick up Ambrose vs. Rollins at some point later on down the line. As for the finish, the only complaint I had is that this sort of interference undermines the steel cage aspect designed to keep people out. I don't believe it hurt the match whatsoever anymore than Kane interfering at the first HIAC match between Taker & HBK back in '97. Certainly wasn't a clean finish and has become some of the most replayed pieces of footage in WWE history and a classic moment.
 
Whilst this situation can be compared to Bryan v Bray somewhat, the difference is that the crowd isn't nearly as up in arms over this as they were for Bryan last year. Whilst it all ended well, I'm pretty sure that the WWE had a different direction for that storyline overall.

Now, I don't think that people don't realise that Seth-Dean could be picked back up at some point. However, I think after 5 months of feuding, and with such an ending, a good set of the momentum built up for the feud will have been lost, and that is why many people have been up in arms regarding the finish more than anything.
 
I agree with everything you said except Rollins getting destroyed yet still miraculously recovering to cashing in at the end of wrestlemania
 
Last year, Daniel Bryan was well on his way to win the title etc, but towards the end of the year, he started feuding with the Wyatt family for almost a month. After he finished his program with Bray (which he lost), he continued on his track and hunt for the title. The same will probably happen with Dean. As soon as his feud with Bray ends (might take till the Rumble or something), Dean will focus back on Seth, who will probably end his feud with Orton. Eventually, on the road to WM31, Dean and Seth will still be at each other's face as the main feud.

The problem with this is that Bryan was after a title, Ambrose was after a person. There was almost hatred in the way they spoke about each other in promo's. Rollins seemed scared shitless of getting anywhere within 20 feet of him, and had to have bodyguards in case Ambrose snuck up on him.

And exactly how many times did Ambrose actually get his hands on Rollins, not many. For almost the whole 5 months we watched Ambrose try to get to Rollins. Most of the time Rollins was running away leaving others to fight his battles for him. That's why it was so important that Ambrose finally got his revenge. Only to have it taken away by Bray Wyatt. A guy who wasn't even involved in this until the end.

Now we're to believe that Ambrose spent 5 months stalking Rollins, only to leave him alone to go after Wyatt. For what reason would Ambrose do that? We shit all over Cena when he interfered in the feud between Ambrose and Rollins, but it's okay for Wyatt to get invested in this?

Wyatt never had a dog in this fight and shouldn't have one now. And I'm so over the Ambrose/Rollins feud now. I've watched Cena, Orton, Kane, HHH, Stephanie, Mercury, Noble and now Wyatt, water it down to such a point it's taken everything out of it.

Will they feud again, probably, maybe, but fans will move on. If it's not important to Ambrose then it's not important to us.
 
Like I said in other thread, Bray v Ambrose at this point is silly because both are rising up the ranks, and with this feud needing a real conclusion after Seth feud ended in a dusty finish whoever wins goes on with push, other person looks bad and probably depush.

So we have Ambrose as the rising current star gaining popularity by the day, and a returning revitalised Bray Wyatt who needs a win to look credible. Only way to continue for both to look strong is another screwy conclusion to the feud.

So whichever way to end this feud now is going to be a momentum killer for one of them. My guess Bray will go over as Roman Reigns looks set to be returning soon it looks like Ambrose will be shunted back down the card because WWE like to focus on one person at a time.

It is like the sadness I get from watching a boxing/mma match between two of my favourite fighters. Sad because one has to lose. I don't like Wyatt that much, but I can see how important he is right now because he is over despite not being my cup of tea and WWE sorely needs a non authority credible heel. Far too long pro wresting has relied on evil authority figures since way back in the attitude era, so much so they have gotten lazy and are totally one dimensional and keep running the same stories over and over again with different talent. Bray can break that cycle, and for that I want to see him win. On the flip side, Ambrose has the potential to be WWEs version of Sandman and be the bridge between younger and older fans as he could appeal to both, if he loses this, then that is 2 feuds in a row lost and will be back down in Dolph Ziggler/Miz territory.

The only thing I can hope for is a long feud that goes back and fourth until mani with each of them getting big wins against each other at SS and RR and WM being the rubber match. Anything less and it is a throwaway feud designed to bury.
 
I don't think Ambrose vs. Rollins is finished, either....and the thing is, if they're both headed for better things in the immediate future, how can one soundly defeat the other at this early juncture? Wouldn't the loser be taken down a peg at a time when badly needed young stars are making their move?

For instance, if Ambrose loses, would he move to a feud with Bray Wyatt, or does he get sent downward by virtue of having been defeated by Rollins .....perhaps to a program with a soon-to-return Bad News Barrett or a perennial midcarder like Dolph Ziggler? That wouldn't be the way to keep Dean's momentum going, would it?

When WWE is finally at a juncture where they're ready to advance young stars, as opposed to the complaining from fans all these years that they feature only veterans, let's not slow it all down. Unclean finishes are okay, as long as there's a plan behind them. In this case, Bray Wyatt needed to be re-introduced, and no one thought he was going to show up without interfering with someone, did they?

I have no problem with an inconclusive ending to Rollins-Ambrose because they'll be at it again before too long.
 
I can't help but think Rollins and Ambrose will end at WM with Ambrose getting his revenge on the biggest stage of 'em all!

It also seems to me that sometime next year things are building towards a triple threat match between the 3 former SHIELD members for the WWE world title maybe Rollins going in a Champion after cashing in MITB!
 
Knowing WWE. It does look like that's going to happen. Ambrose and Rollins at mania with Ambrose winning. I do hope if it goes that way I hope its for the briefcase. Would rather see Ambrose with title. Too early for Rollins. But if this situation does play out, which I think is a triple h idea, I see different endings. One I see reigns winning clean against lesnar, then reigns try's to shake lesnars hand and lesnar attacks reigns, then Rollins cashes in and either wins title or Ambrose ruins it helping reigns out. I also see lesnar winning and then also attacking reigns after with Ambrose making the save and reigns and Ambrose hitting finishers, Rollins music hits. Rollins explains would you rather me or lesnar with the belt. They look at each other agree. Do there old shield fist bump. Triple power bomb. Possibly reunion. I can see them letting reigns win clean also. But I still don't think McMahon is going to let reigns main event mania. He wasn't too hot on the idea. I think he wants rock vs brock as mania main event which I hope not happens. Nothing against reigns, but id rather see brock vs cesaro as main event. Rock vs reigns as main undercard. Sting vs undertaker. Ambrose vs rollins . Wyatt vs orton. Usa title - submission elimination- rusev(c) vs cena vs bryan vs sheamus vs miz vs swagger. Andre memorial winner- bad news Barrett or ryback. Tag team- big e/kofi(c) vs the Wyatt family . That's my opinion. Id have cesaro lose to lesnar in an awesome match and id have bray Wyatt as MIB holder and cash in after the main event. You'd create more stars. Instead of ivesting just in reigns
 

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