Is this the worst run of Kane's career?

[MoxleyCrue]

I understand what WWE is doing with Kane at the moment. It's very logical, however so ridiculously predictable, to me at least, that I actually find myself fast forwarding through his segments, even when Bryan is involved who I am a big fan of.

Can anybody think of a worse run in Kane's WWE career? Maybe Yankem or fake Diesel, but that was so early in his career I forgive him.

I do think it is a shame because the man has had an awesome career, and I feel deserves to be used much more creatively than his current "insert any big man here" suit gimmick.

 

[jonyblade]

I don't know if this is the worse run of his career. I kind of liked it first until it became predictable. They shouldn't have him always interfering in bryan's matches. It seems like its building to a match between the two which really makes no sense and if said match is going to be at wrestlemania its going to turn people away.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

If you're going to bring up Fake Diesel and Isaac Yankem then the question should be is this the worst run of Glenn Jacob's career. Which it obviously isn't.

Is it Kane's worst run? I wouldn't go that far either because he is involved in the top storyline even if he isn't actually wrestling a whole lot. There were plenty of years where he was just kind of "there". He had stretches where he was a glorified jobber-to-the-stars, so I don't see how him being in a position of "power" now can be his "worst run".

 

[MoxleyCrue]

If you're going to bring up Fake Diesel and Isaac Yankem then the question should be is this the worst run of Glenn Jacob's career. Which it obviously isn't.

Is it Kane's worst run? I wouldn't go that far either because he is involved in the top storyline even if he isn't actually wrestling a whole lot. There were plenty of years where he was just kind of "there". He had stretches where he was a glorified jobber-to-the-stars, so I don't see how him being in a position of "power" now can be his "worst run".

Fair enough, I should have said Glenn Jacobs really, and again re-worded it to least entertaining run.

 

[AegonTargaryen]

I'm glad to encounter a non-Batista and non-Daniel Bryan thread after quite some time. I'm euphoric, elated, blissful, I'm the sky.

As far as Kane goes, if you went counting the number of times Kane has been mistreated , mishandled, or overlooked by the WWE creative, you'd only count in dozens. Does he deserve better? He certainly did, when it was time in the 2000s. The 2010s? Not so much. Why would the WWE bother with his career now? He's an enhancement talent at best, always has been. And the only two times Kane has really shined in his career are one with The Undertaker(tag-teaming or feud) and as a tag team wrestler(surprising, isn't it) with , X-Pac, Taker, Rob Van Vam, Big Show(2005-2006, 2010), and most recently, Daniel Bryan.

And I don't think this has been his most pathetic run, it by far isn't since he hasn't even been an active wrestler on TV, and I find him in a corporate role with the suit and all, which he's doing for the first time, thoroughly enjoyable.

What, then, are his most pathetic runs?
2004&2005 with Matt(Fatt) Hardy , the Snitsky abomination, being Cuckolded by a known **** Lita, and Edge storyline, bleh.

Most of his singles feuds have been lacklustre to mid-card. Throughout the years , Kane has feuded :- X-pac, HHH, Chris Jericho ,Matt Hardy, Edge, Umaga, Mark Henry, Khali, Big Show.

Unfortunately, none of these feuds had a charming appeal or excellence about them, or otherwise produced must-see matches. The most awesome matches and feuds of Kane(non-Undertaker) IMO were against Shane Mcmahon, Rob Van Dam, and MVP.

Contrast this with how Undertaker's feuds with most of Wrestling greats have always been memorable. Can Kane claim to have had 5-star matches with top stars, or classic matches at he biggest event of the year?? What's the last time Kane was given an interesting feud with a top star that stood out? such as Batista, Cena, The Rock, Austin, Shawn Michaels? The Undertaker has been given all of that.

 

[Kamala316]

Yes, this is the worst run of Kane's career. But to be honest, it seemed like he mailed it in years ago. He's 46 years old, and based on his physical look/demeanor, he hasn't been hitting up the gym lately. He had a good run with the mask on, but I feel he lost his mojo when he took it off. But this Corporate gimmick is absolutely horrendous, and more importantly to the WWE product, is grounds for changing the channel.

 

[Jerichoholic8894]

I wouldn't say it's even his fault. The authority storyline became too predicibale before they even brought Kane into it.

The real question is: Is this the worst booking of Kane since he debut? Which i'd have to say yes.

It's hard to say they should have never brought Kane into the authority, but once he was in the storyline, it became apparent that creative never really had anything for him further than wearing a suit and not being apart of some disaster wedding.

Kane's had his fair share of head shaking moments (Being a jobber for a couple of years on Smackdown, Katie Vick, Authority story line) but everyone has had their fair share of head shaking moments. Kane's have just been brutally weird or brutally boring.

I don't think it's fair to bring Fake Diesel or Isaac Yankem into it or even Christmas Creature. That's more on creative than Glenn.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

Kane is boring in this role.

The novelty of "The Monster" wearing a suit wore off months ago, and I wouldn't point to the "You sold out!" chants as as a sign of success for this version of Kane. Feels like an obligatory chant, and that's about it.

I guess you can say Kane's done everything he can possibly do as The Monster, but this new character doesn't feel refreshing or exciting, because it's just Kane running around in a suit and cutting dull monotone promos 95% of the time.

 

[The Perfect Max]

I wouldn't say this is his worst run, because he's been mishandled and mistreated time and time before, which is a shame because he's extremely talented at what he does. I think that they're just using him wrong.

I think I was one of the first to really dig this sudden change into a suit and tie. A lot of people didn't get it for a few weeks. But I liked it. However, the way I saw it playing out was with some sort of logical way that they could have the monster and the corporate Kane work together, somewhat like Abyss and Joseph Park, minus the fact that they don't realise they're the same guy. I thought unleashing the monster when necessary was the plan, but when Kane entered the Royal Rumble in his suit, well, I lost hope.

The Authority storyline has been so predictable, and it was even before Kane joined. To me, his worst run was around late 2006 and early 2007 when he had absolutely nothing to do, other than feud with the Great Khali. That was sad.

 

[HeymanHustler]

Glenn Jacobs has had worse runs, Yankem and Fake Diesel included. As Kane, I personally think this might be his worse run. I've never been a fan of Corporate Kane. Seeing Kane in a suit has just been awkward from the start and it personally never worked for me. Not to mention how now things have turned to be more and more predictable for his story, making it much worse.

 

[OddManRush]

I kind of think it's hard to say until this corporate Kane run is over. I know there was a pretty stale time for me with his character after he returned with the half mask in 2002. I think I have to see where this one ends up before I can comment further though.

 

[salopstick]

He's the victim of one of the worst "authority" storylines ever

HHH and Steph could and should have been booked as the worst heels ever especially with the Bryan situation but hasn't

Everyone involved in this storyline hasn't looked good except Bryan and Cena

Orton cannot be a proper heel when the authority f*** him over
Batista cannot be a face when he aligns with the tweeter couple
The shield should never have been used as enforcers
Hbk should never have gotten involved
It caused punk to leave
And Kane is not corporate

Corporation storylines are always redone and Redone, this one had potential and could have been done so much better

 

[kumarjtk]

I think wwe give some onscreen timeoff for big guys like kane, big show, mark henry, khali.
Its not wrost in kane carrier he is in current storyline.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

When you look at some of the absolute shite Kane has beeen given to work with over the years, it's impressive how he has managed to remain popular with fans all this time, it shows how talented Glen Jacobs is.

WWE had a special talent when Kane first debuted, and they completely wasted him. Giving him a 1 day title reign was a joke, he should have been dominating the roster for a long time, but he has had alot of success over the years. I've always been a fan of Kane's.

However, I would say it's one of the least entertaining runs of his career at the moment, but perhaps WWE are just thinking they have done pretty much all they can with the Kane character and are just trying something different. I hope he doesn't stay as a Corporate stooge for long, and turns again them as I just don't think he's suited to this kind of role. But, he is involved in the top storylines, which is a higher profile slot that many of his previous roles in WWE, so maybe it isnt so bad for him.

 

[Mustang Sally]

Is it Kane's worst run? I wouldn't go that far either because he is involved in the top storyline even if he isn't actually wrestling a whole lot. There were plenty of years where he was just kind of "there". He had stretches where he was a glorified jobber-to-the-stars, so I don't see how him being in a position of "power" now can be his "worst run".

Agreed. This reply brought back memories of his being a partner/adversary of X-Pac and having the smaller guy slam Kane face-first into the mat and pin him. The thrust of Kane's inclusion in that angle was X-Pac, not Kane. Yes, he's had periods in which his relevance was muted. There have been other similar junctures in his career; he's always been painted as fearsome, but often reduced to a mere opponent.

Today, it's hard to tell exactly what management has in mind for him. At times, I've felt he was essentially retired from in-ring action, fit to execute an occasional choke-slam on his opponent, but in effect playing an extra to the stars of the show. The whole "surrendering his mask to Stephanie" business had the air of his edging into semi-retirement. Conversely, I've wondered if he hadn't been nursing an injury in a manner that would keep him on TV, yet limit his physical participation.

If that's the case, Kane's having a full match last night might spell the end of that phase and a call back to full-time wrestling. Or, he might have been filling in as fodder for good ol' Daniel Bryan, which the result surely could have indicated.

I can't figure what he's doing and what plans for him are. I can't see him being used as a corporate figure forever.....yet, if he's not going to be the Big Red Monster anymore, what's left for him?

So, I confess to mixed feelings about Kane. This isn't the worst phase of his career because he's still the black marble; we can't really figure what he'll do next, yet he's still relevant and keeps us guessing. Still, he's been a lot further up the ladder and it would be good to see him there again.

Stay tuned.

 

[Ubermensch]

It's hard seeing him go from his initial run in the WWE as a burn victim that he could shoot fireballs and had to talk with a machine to a guy wrestling in a wife beater and slacks being cowed down.

It's difficult to say how the WWE can manage Kane. Obviously you can't be an unstoppable silent monster forever. The Undertaker had to evolve from this more and more mic time, and then a more brooding gimmick. He finally changed his gimmick altogether as a biker before reverting back during his final years which is where he is now. Kane needed the same, but a corporate gimmick won't allow him to be fluid the way Taker was.

 

[JohnJohnson]

I was just thinking about this last night as I watched Raw. When I saw this balding man in a wife beater curled up in the fetal posistion being kicked by a guy who is about 180lbs, I thought to myself, damn! When Kane was first introduced he was awesome. He was the fiercest monster in the WWE. I remember that awesome feeling of excitement when the lights would suddenly go out and you would here the organs start playing, then BOOM! Then this Michael Myersesque monster would slowly make his way to the ring. It was always bad news for whoever was in the ring at the time. I think when the main event scene was Kane, Taker, Mankind, and Austin was one of the greatest periods in WWE. Kane just seemed invulnerable and incredibly strong.

It's sad to see what he has become. If I had a time machine and brought 8 year old me to the present time and showed him that man in a wife beater all curled up being decimated by what would have been a victim in his better years, I think 8 year old me would just flip out and give up on wrestling forever lol.

 

[Mochaches]

I think it's the continued tweaking of the Kane character. I mean, we've seen some very subtle changes in his gimmick since 1997. We've gone from covered body, masked mute, to unmasked, clean shaving, suit wearing corporate monster. Of course, we've seen other parts where he had the flame suit with both arms exposed and a crab-like mask twice. My take is that Kane is evolving again. He can stay in a mask and wig and wrestle for a few more years, but then it would just get all stale and boring. Gimmicks need to evolve over time. Glen Jacobs knows this after 17 years of being the man behind the Big Red Machine/Monster. He isn't going to last forever like the Undertaker seems to be doing.

 

[enviousdominous]

You know what's permanently burned into my memory regarding Kane? The Christmas Creature. It was my first exposure to Glen Jacobs and it's never left me. When he wandered over to the WWF, all I saw was a big evil Christmas Tree.

Honestly, I've met the guy and he's one of the most pleasant human beings you'll ever meet. He would laugh and say "yup" when other performers would say that he's just a "freckle faced country boy". They'd also say that he's one of the strongest guys they've ever met, compliments just embarrass him. Because of how cool he was back then, I want to see him do well. He just seems like a goofy guy to me in anything he does and I wish he wasn't being used as a low-brow interpretation of a stooge.

I think that creative had to do some hasty re-writing after Punk left and thus we have Daniel Bryan booked to wrestle Kane. Obviously if Daniel Bryan is going to fight HHH, then Kane won't have a match at Wrestlemania and will most likely interfere in Daniel Bryan's match in some manner.

I believe that Kane, in his suit-wearing gimmick, was supposed to be wrestling a match at Wrestlemania against CM Punk. Maybe Punk would have been in the EC match instead of Christian or Cesaro and would have been the one losing due to Kane's interference. It might have been Punk vs HHH too, either way, I think the lazy writing regarding the direction of Kane's character is for a sudden lack of any use for him come Wrestlemania. Kane and Daniel Bryan have a history, so it probably made more sense to the creative staff to put them together instead of having Kane work with anyone else.

 

[TheBigGuy]

I loved the start, when he gave his mask to Steph. They went in a different direction than I thought, but I've enjoyed some moments and others not so much.

 

[Reflection]

I think the worst run of his career was during the first half of the PG era, i.e. from around 2007 until before he returned with the mask (with the exception of the Taker-Kane-Paul Bearer storyline). This period can also be identified with the "Man of Fire" entrance theme. During this time, he lost a higher proportion of his matches than he ever did; to the extent that everyone stopped considering him a monster or a real threat.

 

[ktsKane]

Kane is the big reason I watch the WWE and even I have been getting very disinterested in the way this story line is going.
But apart from his run DB as tag champs Kane hasn't been booked right since he came back the monster with the mask and lost his first feud to Cena.
I think creative is lost coming up something since punk walked out.
To me it looks like another year where I won't have interest in Mania because there is no decent Kane story line leading up to it.
i don't need to see Kane win every match to be happy I'd be happy if they Kane running around like the Monster he can be once he was booked as the monster everyone was scared of now he's curled up in ball in corner like a scared girl while somebody half his size beats him up.

 

[LSN80]

It's hard seeing him go from his initial run in the WWE as a burn victim that he could shoot fireballs and had to talk with a machine to a guy wrestling in a wife beater and slacks being cowed down.

I agree. They're a PG show and all now, but some of the content from Kane's run in 2010 was that he mercilessly attacked the Undertaker, putting him in a vegetative state. They were PG back then as well, were they not? Granted, they didn't show the attack, or Taker' hooked up to monitors in hell, but he was essentially given superpowers during that reign which allowed him to beat Undertaker 3 times, so much that 'Taker has never come back as a full-time wrestler.

And while it was cheesy, and we knew who would win the feud, he returned again at the end of 2011, wearing the welder's mask while commanding John Cena to "embrace the hate." He got several high profile wins during this time, and while not a win, he also beat Cena senseless in a violent no-contest at the 2012 Royal Rumble. So much so, in fact, that Cena couldn't enter the Rumble.

They've found so many diverse and entertaining ways to use Kane's character, but here, he's just another suck-up to the Almighty Authority. One would think the Authority would be sick of him by now, however, as he gets his behind handed to him every week by one wrestler or another. Both from a character, and lopsided win/loss record trending downward, Corporate Kane has been the worst run of his career.

 

[Mustang Sally]

At present, Kane's role is to sacrifice himself to make Daniel Bryan look good. We can dress it up any way we like, but it seems his sole function since (surprisingly) shedding his mask is to job to a guy who's half his size, who was his partner in a program that was very successful in it's longevity and audience appeal.

If the purpose of Kane surrendering his distinguishing ringwear to Stephanie McMahon was to signify the end of his active career in the ring....then, fine. Maybe the wear & tear on his body had finally gotten the best of him, yet his speaking ability guaranteed he'd have a job even if he didn't wrestle ......always, of course, with the provision he'd be available occasionally to step in the ring when another performer's image needed some enhancing.....as he's doing now.

Adding Kane to the Authority seemed contrived and ill-considered; they already had Triple H and Steph, they had a security team (The Shield)....and at the beginning of the concept, even Randy Orton seemed as much a part of the Authority as a wrestler in his own right.

So, in steps Kane as "Director of Operations?" What for? If he had no real job description and no power, they could have called him "Authority Janitor" if all they planned was to use him as an enhancement talent to put over Daniel Bryan and whomever else needed getting over.

The worst run of Kane's career? It's hard to say, but I'd certainly call this the most "direction-less" phase he's seen.

Plus, I admit that as much as I like Daniel Bryan, it's almost embarrassing to watch him dominate a huge guy like Kane, as if taking off his mask and putting on a suit turned a highly effective wrestler into a pathetic jobber overnight.

 

[Rich the UK WWE Fan 2k14]

I used to be a BIG Kane fan up to when he first went mask-less in 2003.

I realise he's now in the twilight of his career, like his "Brother" the Undertaker, but going out as HHH and Stephanie McManBeast's pet bitch? No, just, no,, Kane is better than jobbing to his former tag team partner even if it just to placate the IWC who think DB should be main eventing WM 30.