Is the Wrestlemania booking this year a tad immoral?

rge2010

Mid-Card Championship Winner
At the time of press, there are alot of Superstars who wont be appearing at this years Wrestlemania - R-Truth, Kofi Kingston, Mark Henry, Evan Bourne, Tyson Kidd, Santino, Kozlov, Ted Dibiase, Drew McIntyre to name a few. Ok these are not main eventers, never have being and probably never will be but there is talent there, nobody can deny that.

I fully understand WWE is a business and they need to look after the company as a whole. Wrestlemania is their Daddy PPV and they have to ensure the pay day is good. Don't get me wrong either, I am actually really looking forward to Wrestlemania given a couple of months ago it looked like utter shit.

But I ask this question because alot of these Superstars work their assess of for 250-300 days a year to appease us fans and it seems not been in the card is a complete kick in bollocks to them. Especially when you look at who is ON the card!!!

The Rock - Just come back after 7 years
Steve Austin - Very rare Appearences
Michael Cole - Not an active Superstar
Jerry Lawler - Not an active Superstar (in the main)
Snooki - What the fuck?
Michelle McCool - Part time, doesnt do house shows
Trish Stratus - Just returned
The Undertaker - Always injured and shows up when he wants
Triple H - Not wrestled in a year

Ok, I am playing devils advocate here, the majority of the Superstars made WWE what it is today and have earned their place on the card. Without 4/5 of the names above WWE might not even exist now! BUT the fact is none of these have worked as hard as 95% of the current roster this past 12 months.

It is virtually impossible to make a Wrestlemania Card as good as the current one without using these Superstars and taking into account who is Champion and which brand Superstars are on, but I will try anyway! I have kept the US and IC Titles on previous holders as changed recently and also included Triple H and Taker because they are active Superstars.

Main Event - John Cena vs The Undertaker
WWE Title - The Miz (c) vs John Morrison vs Randy Orton
WHW Title - Edge (c) vs Alberto Del Rio vs Christian
US Title - Daniel Bryan (c) vs Tyson Kidd
IC Title - Kofi Kingston (c) vs Jack Swagger
Tag Titles - Gabriel/Slater (c) vs Big Show/Kane vs Santino/Kozlov
Loser Disbands - CM Punk (w/ Nexus) vs Wade Barrett (w/The Corre)
Street Fight - Triple H vs Sheamus
MITB Ladder Match - Rey Mysterio vs Dolph Ziggler vs Drew McIntrye vs Mark Henry vs Evan Bourne vs Cody Rhodes vs R-Truth vs Ted Dibiase
Divas Title - Eve (c) vs Natayla vs Beth Pheonix vs Awesome Kong

So would this card of made you part with your Pounds, Dollars and Euros? Or does it suck and you agree with the way WWE have conducted their business?
 
There's no reason not to put Triple H and Taker on the card. Undertaker is a Wrestlemania mainstay, and his match is something fans look forward too all year long. Triple H may not have wrestled much this year, but he's been one of the biggest names in wrestling for the past 15 or so years, he's done more than enough to deserve his spot at Mania.

The Rock and Stone Cold you don't have to worry about, they're not taking up anyone's time, they're merely there to enhance the event and partake in other events.

Cole vs. Lawler is this year's Hart vs. McMahon/Jericho vs. Legends/Big Show vs. Mayweather etc. The only difference between it and the gimmick/nostalgia matches of the past few WrestleManias is that this time people are going to be very invested in it because of Cole's stellar heel work. Who doesn't want to see Lawler shove his foot up Cole's ass?

Michelle McCool deserves her spot, LayCool was one of the best things the divas had going for them this year, and she was no small part.

Snooki is the only person that you could argue doesn't deserve a spot on the card, but even so, she's only taking a divas spot, and divas are a dime a dozen.

And your new card sucks in comparison to what the WWE is coming ut with this year. The last thing anybody wants to see is Miz face off with Orton AGAIN, and Morrison is not ready to have a title match at WrestleMania. John Cena vs. Undertaker is okay, but I'd rather have Taker go over Taker this year and let a younger guy end the streak next year. Tyson Kidd has done bupkis since breaking up the Hart Dynasty, and his shot should definitely go to Sheamus, who you have feuding with Triple H, a match that has been done to death. Then you have a heel faction vs. heel faction idea, which is not a WrestleMania type of event. The IWC might like it, but that's about it. And finally, you have 4 divas facing off, but Beth Phoenix hasn't done anything of interest recently, and Awesome Kong hasn't debuted.

The only thing I like about your card is the MitB match, but I'd take out almost all of the competitors and fill it with Kofi, Truth, Evan Bourne, Drew McIntyre, Christian, and DiBiase. You removed too many matches with builds that are too good to waste or that are big draws.

And the WWE always makes sure all their wrestlers get the WrestleMania bonus, even if it means throwing them in a dark Battle Royal match.
 
I agree that they should be pushing the future, but they have no personality. A lot of them don't have the "it" factor. The ratings have been down. I feel like the "PG Era" is just "the New Generation" of today. Vince knows the Attitude guys make money. Wrestlemania is the biggest show of the year and should showcase the biggest stars they can find. I'm not paying $60 to see Daniel Bryan vs. Tyson Kidd. I've seen Bryan Danielson in ROH live. He is great, but he isn't Wrestlemania great...yet.

Also- Should Trish sit out soo the Bella Twins can be on the show?
 
Nobody gives a fuck about guys like Ted Dibiase and Drew McIntrye. People like Snooki, The Rock, Michael Cole, Triple H, and Jerry Lawler are 10x better draws than any of those bums you listed initially. Wrestlemania is all about star power and whatnot. Just because some awful wrestler like Ron Killings has been around for awhile doesn't mean he deserves to be anywhere near the card.
 
Drew McIntyre hasn't done anything big lately to get himself a match at Wrestlemania, or almost any PPV. He had a good showing at Elimination Chamber, but as I said in a thread I started, he's no longer "The Chosen One", and therefore his push has been halted and he will simply feature in a dark match or something.

Ted DiBiase's WWE career is in limbo, only thing I see saving him now is the constantly rumoured possibly faction named, "The Fortunate Sons", which WWE has supposed to be rolling with since this time last year, yet never pull the trigger.

R-Truth doesn'ty deserve to be on weekly television most of the time, nevermind Wrestlemania. Kofi might feature, due to the rumoured Corre Vs Team Show match, seeing as he lost his IC Championship to Barrett. I for one, hope he doesn't. Simply because Kofi Kingston is boring, overrated and a babyface.

Tyson Kidd is being jobbed, Bourne returned like what? A month ago. Mark Henry might have had his last dance under the light, last year, seeing as he will supposedly retire within the next year and once again, Kozlov and Santino are possibnilities for Team Show if WWE ever go ahead with that.

Simply put, nobody you listed DESERVES to feature at Wrestlemania. They either haven't been pushed, aren't over or simply have no reason to feature at the event.
 
None of the young talent earned to headline Wrestlemania they might of worked hard but not as hard as people like Michael Cole (as much as everyone hates it).. They don't have a presence as Undertaker or HHH. They won't bring in new crowd (Snooki). They won't give them a dream match to look forward to (The Rock) which is why, they aren't..
 
At the time of press, there are alot of Superstars who wont be appearing at this years Wrestlemania - R-Truth, Kofi Kingston, Mark Henry, Evan Bourne, Tyson Kidd, Santino, Kozlov, Ted Dibiase, Drew McIntyre to name a few. Ok these are not main eventers, never have being and probably never will be but there is talent there, nobody can deny that.

I fully understand WWE is a business and they need to look after the company as a whole. Wrestlemania is their Daddy PPV and they have to ensure the pay day is good. Don't get me wrong either, I am actually really looking forward to Wrestlemania given a couple of months ago it looked like utter shit.

But I ask this question because alot of these Superstars work their assess of for 250-300 days a year to appease us fans and it seems not been in the card is a complete kick in bollocks to them. Especially when you look at who is ON the card!!!

The Rock - Just come back after 7 years
Steve Austin - Very rare Appearences
Michael Cole - Not an active Superstar
Jerry Lawler - Not an active Superstar (in the main)
Snooki - What the fuck?
Michelle McCool - Part time, doesnt do house shows
Trish Stratus - Just returned
The Undertaker - Always injured and shows up when he wants
Triple H - Not wrestled in a year

Ok, I am playing devils advocate here, the majority of the Superstars made WWE what it is today and have earned their place on the card. Without 4/5 of the names above WWE might not even exist now! BUT the fact is none of these have worked as hard as 95% of the current roster this past 12 months.

It is virtually impossible to make a Wrestlemania Card as good as the current one without using these Superstars and taking into account who is Champion and which brand Superstars are on, but I will try anyway! I have kept the US and IC Titles on previous holders as changed recently and also included Triple H and Taker because they are active Superstars.

Main Event - John Cena vs The Undertaker
WWE Title - The Miz (c) vs John Morrison vs Randy Orton
WHW Title - Edge (c) vs Alberto Del Rio vs Christian
US Title - Daniel Bryan (c) vs Tyson Kidd
IC Title - Kofi Kingston (c) vs Jack Swagger
Tag Titles - Gabriel/Slater (c) vs Big Show/Kane vs Santino/Kozlov
Loser Disbands - CM Punk (w/ Nexus) vs Wade Barrett (w/The Corre)
Street Fight - Triple H vs Sheamus
MITB Ladder Match - Rey Mysterio vs Dolph Ziggler vs Drew McIntrye vs Mark Henry vs Evan Bourne vs Cody Rhodes vs R-Truth vs Ted Dibiase
Divas Title - Eve (c) vs Natayla vs Beth Pheonix vs Awesome Kong

So would this card of made you part with your Pounds, Dollars and Euros? Or does it suck and you agree with the way WWE have conducted their business?

WOW. I agree...SO MUCH that this would have been the PPV I would have wanted and PRE-paid for. I totally agree, I'm actually not getting this years Mania, and its no knock to any of the talent at all.

Its just, its missing the elements that i personally feel could have made this the Mania NOT to miss. And with the match list you posted, I couldn't have asked for a better one for the roster they have.

The stories, beyond the Miz/Cena, and slightly the Triple H/Taker, they didn't sell me on this years show. At all.

Lawler/COle: Wasnt interested when this started
Snooki ANYTHING" Horrible. Not intersted in anyway shape or form and it wastes a potentially great one on one with Morrison/Ziggler, and they have history, so that could have been a great story to tell.

Besides the WHC match with Edge and Del rio, The others, are throw away to me.

Punk/Orton, These two are probrably going to have a great match, but the story is weak to me, and kinda random.
 
Nobody gives a fuck about guys like Ted Dibiase and Drew McIntrye. People like Snooki, The Rock, Michael Cole, Triple H, and Jerry Lawler are 10x better draws than any of those bums you listed initially. Wrestlemania is all about star power and whatnot. Just because some awful wrestler like Ron Killings has been around for awhile doesn't mean he deserves to be anywhere near the card.

Seriously I have never heard of Snooki before watching RAW and I hardly doubt Snooki at WM will get her fanbase to pay $55 for a 4 hour PPV to see her for probably 5 mins.

For the rest I understand why they are on the card and I don't think The Rock or Austin are taking away any matches on the card since seem to be supplementing existing angles.

I guess I saw this coming when I heard there won't be a MITB match for WM. A shame really since its a good excuse to have mid carders be at WM with a real good purpose and showcase their talent's on a big stage like WM. I'm hoping next year will have the return of MITB so guys like Bourne and Kingston can have a spot on the card.
 
The point isnt getting Snooki's fans to watch the PPV... Its to get the free Press that comes with having Snooki show up. Snooki is probably getting $20K for her stint and it will make headlines on TMZ, etc.
 
experience over youth movement is a lot bigger draw, especially for wrestlemania, the youth movement could only get you so far, when its time to sell and keep people glued to the tv you need big time names on the card, even though if you have to turn back the hands of times and call everybody from the attitude era
 
without The Rock, the title match wouldnt be as big....Snooki coming brings alot of attention especially from a different demographic....I doubt she is getting paid 20K more like 100k....JWOW was paid 15K in tna, this is Mania though....Taker is synonomous with Mania....ADR is gonna be a big star one day so why not push him now?.Lawler and Cole have had great storytelling.....those kinds of guys like McIntyre, Ted, and Tyson arent even worthy for SummerSlam yet let alone Mania....
 
Seriously I have never heard of Snooki before watching RAW and I hardly doubt Snooki at WM will get her fanbase to pay $55 for a 4 hour PPV to see her for probably 5 mins.

You may be the only person in the world to have not heard of Snooki. She's become more of a household name than any professional wrestler. Jersey Shore is a pop culture phenomenon, and not only did booking her for Mania gain WWE a TON of publicity, but it'll increase buys. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that a decent amount of her fans drop the $55 just to watch the show endorsed by Snooki.

Snooki is taking up a diva's spot, and divas are replaceable. There is no need to be concerned about the WWE burying any talent here.
 
If anyone is complaining about the booking for Wrestemania, they would truly have to be in the category of being unable to be satisfied. Because I think that this year's event should be absolutely phenomenal. However the Miz/Cena/the Rock plays out, this should be epic. Taker versus HHH has be totally guessing and it should be very entertaining, especially if HBK gets involved in some manner.

An appearance from SCSA is always welcomed, and seeing Cole get his ass handed to him should be great. I could live without Snooki, as I don't get the appeal with her, as I hate the show and I find her totally unattractive, but this will be as good as any throw away divas match, will get some mainstream attention, plus the bulk of the match will likely be Morrison/Ziggler and Trish/McCool anyway.

You know the card must be solid when such matches as Edge/ADR (with or without Christian) and Punk/Orton are hardly receiving any attention, because I expect both of these matches to be really good. And even the rest of the card is not too bad.

If WWE does not drop the ball with this one, it should be vintage. If you are not excited about Sunday, you will never be a fan of anything WWE, and that's real, It's Damn Real.
 
But I ask this question because alot of these Superstars work their assess of for 250-300 days a year to appease us fans and it seems not been in the card is a complete kick in bollocks to them. Especially when you look at who is ON the card!!!

The Rock - Just come back after 7 years
Steve Austin - Very rare Appearences
Michael Cole - Not an active Superstar
Jerry Lawler - Not an active Superstar (in the main)
Snooki - What the fuck?
Michelle McCool - Part time, doesnt do house shows
Trish Stratus - Just returned
The Undertaker - Always injured and shows up when he wants
Triple H - Not wrestled in a year
I understand your point, but the poeple on you list all make up only 3 matches on the card. 2 of those matches will likely be less than 15min. The Rock as host is unarguable from a business standpoint. Besides, even if these 3 matches plus their video package setups and post match aftermath take up an hour altogether, that's still only 25% of the PPV. For people that don't understand Snooki's SMALL role, watch The True Story of WrestleMania for free on Netflix to see how important celebs are to WM.
 
I agree with you sure guys like The rock and Austin are main stays but seriously how long can they depend on guys who already made their mark. Imo it's just WWE being lazy and not having any creative juice in them.
They put it like ok we're failing to get these guys and gals over lets bring back some has beens and get it over with right?.

I find it hilarious how most wrestling fans of today say the newer guys and gals don't have the ''it'' factor. Have you people been watching the same bs i've been watching the booking and creative writing is just awful. How is someone to create their own characters when only the top guys like HHH and Undertaker are allowed to do so.

I don't see anyone pointing the finger at creative and booking it's their fault guys like Dolph,Drew cody etc. and the majority of the divas aren't over.
This year's Wrestlemania proves it and they [WWE] know the kids of today will and have ate it up. So they will continue to be lazy and bring back old washed up has beens while laughing all the way to the bank.

IDC what you people say i for one won't be ordering Mania no Taker vs HHH match will change that. End of story Btw i like your card alot better but like usual i'm in the minority so what idc. I am not a band wagon sheep with no mind.
 
Yeah, I wasnt 100% on this years card either. Its like it was put together at the last minute. Granted, some of the people you mentioned dont really deserve a spot in wrestlemania, the card seems more bland than anything else. Besides the matches being too predictable, we've got guys like Cody Rhodes and Corre who, as they stand right now, havent been build up sufficiently enough to have spots at Mania. Instead of their matches and the ridiculous Cole vs Lawler match, they could've thrown in something having to do with the IC title or done something with the CM Punk/Stone Cold thing thats has been going around online for a while now. They could've shaped this whole thing out so much more efficiently and it seems that the only two matches gauranteed to be sucessful are the Taker vs Triple H match and the Miz vs Cena match (and thats only because of The Rocks involvement). This year was poorly developed and it seems as if WWE relied solely on the couple of big names involved this year to draw in buys. But hey, its Wrestlemania and anything can happen. We have to wait till Sunday to see how it all plays out.
 
You may be the only person in the world to have not heard of Snooki. She's become more of a household name than any professional wrestler. Jersey Shore is a pop culture phenomenon, and not only did booking her for Mania gain WWE a TON of publicity, but it'll increase buys. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that a decent amount of her fans drop the $55 just to watch the show endorsed by Snooki.

Snooki is taking up a diva's spot, and divas are replaceable. There is no need to be concerned about the WWE burying any talent here.

My girlfriend wasnt going to watch mania with me until she heard Snooki was going to be on. I think Jersey Shore is stupid as hell but it is very popular. I think they would of been better off bringing in the entire cast.
 

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