In football it's generally thought that if you have a 'Franchise QB' you are set for 10-15 years and will be able to contend if you put enough complementary pieces around that QB. Except for in the rare cases where the complementary pieces are stronger than the QB (85 Bears, 00 Ravens), it's basically a requirement that you need a good QB to be a Super Bowl contender.
In this thread, I will present to you a handful of players who are currently the undisputed starter for their team. These guys will not have won a Super Bowl before, since all of the QBs with a ring would likely be considered 'Franchise QBs'. This thread isn't for them. This is a thread for guys that may or may not have the talent to lead his team to a Super Bowl Championship. I will list the pros and cons of the player listed and then I'll open it up to you guys to decide if the said QB is capable of being labeled a 'Franchise QB'.
Please note: my definition of a 'Franchise QB' is a guy that is the center of your offense and won't ride the coattails of his defense to a title (Dilfer with the Ravens, Grossman on the Bears as examples of guys I WOULDN'T consider franchise QB's even though they won/made a Super Bowl as the Starting QB.
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The Flacco thread produced about what I expected - an almost even split (8-6 yes/no) and some good discussion about the Ravens QB. While this one I don't believe will have as much debate, you never know. Next up is the other starter from the 2008 Draft Class - Atlanta Falcons QB Matt Ryan.
Yes, he's a 'Franchise QB'
-43-19 (69%) in his 4 years as a starter.
-First QB to lead them to back to back winning seasons and back to back playoff berths
-2/1 career TD/INT ratio, 60% comp., and a QB Rating of 88.4
No, he's not a 'Franchise QB'
-0-3 in the playoffs and has had rather disappointing games his last 2 times.
-Has relied on running game for much of his early success
It's tough to really put a lot against Ryan aside from that 0-3 playoff record. Yes he benefits somewhat from playing a guaranteed 9 games in domes (8 home and vs. NO) and having two other warm weathered teams in his division. But that's a pretty poor argument in itself because he doesn't schedule who or where he plays. Obviously the playoff record could become a problem, but 3 games is too small of a sample size, especially since all 3 teams he lost to ended up making/winning the Super Bowl. Also, let's not forget that Peyton Manning began his playoff career 3-6 before winning a Super Bowl. It's something that can happen with time. I'll say yes and be pretty confident with my decision, even if I don't think he'll ever reach 'best QB' status.
In this thread, I will present to you a handful of players who are currently the undisputed starter for their team. These guys will not have won a Super Bowl before, since all of the QBs with a ring would likely be considered 'Franchise QBs'. This thread isn't for them. This is a thread for guys that may or may not have the talent to lead his team to a Super Bowl Championship. I will list the pros and cons of the player listed and then I'll open it up to you guys to decide if the said QB is capable of being labeled a 'Franchise QB'.
Please note: my definition of a 'Franchise QB' is a guy that is the center of your offense and won't ride the coattails of his defense to a title (Dilfer with the Ravens, Grossman on the Bears as examples of guys I WOULDN'T consider franchise QB's even though they won/made a Super Bowl as the Starting QB.
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The Flacco thread produced about what I expected - an almost even split (8-6 yes/no) and some good discussion about the Ravens QB. While this one I don't believe will have as much debate, you never know. Next up is the other starter from the 2008 Draft Class - Atlanta Falcons QB Matt Ryan.
Yes, he's a 'Franchise QB'
-43-19 (69%) in his 4 years as a starter.
-First QB to lead them to back to back winning seasons and back to back playoff berths
-2/1 career TD/INT ratio, 60% comp., and a QB Rating of 88.4
No, he's not a 'Franchise QB'
-0-3 in the playoffs and has had rather disappointing games his last 2 times.
-Has relied on running game for much of his early success
It's tough to really put a lot against Ryan aside from that 0-3 playoff record. Yes he benefits somewhat from playing a guaranteed 9 games in domes (8 home and vs. NO) and having two other warm weathered teams in his division. But that's a pretty poor argument in itself because he doesn't schedule who or where he plays. Obviously the playoff record could become a problem, but 3 games is too small of a sample size, especially since all 3 teams he lost to ended up making/winning the Super Bowl. Also, let's not forget that Peyton Manning began his playoff career 3-6 before winning a Super Bowl. It's something that can happen with time. I'll say yes and be pretty confident with my decision, even if I don't think he'll ever reach 'best QB' status.