Interesting WWE Trademark Application

[The Dragon Saga]

What's your evidence to the CM Punk thing? Usually if an entity owns a trademark, you can't use it elsewhere. Doesn't matter that Punk created it, it's registered under the WWE.

It was brought up on Jim Corentte's radio show back when the Punk Contract saga was going, and they gave a very detailed case of what happens when Superstars sign over their names.

Tommy Dreamer's name is trademarked by WWE in full. They own the name yet Dreamer is allowed to continue using it post-WWE as he's documented as the sole creator of the name and as an independant contractor has legal rights to use the name outside of the WWE.

Punk has evidence he was using the name pre-WWE; for several years obviously in IWA: MS and Ring of Honor, therefore he would at the very least be allowed to use the name there. But, they also discussed loopholes and one of them is his actual name.

CM Punk is trademarked, "C.M. Punk" is not trademarked. All Punk would even have to do is add in two full stops between the initial letters and he wouldn't be breaching any contract. But then again, as the most likely third option, they both own the name. Like "The Rock"; both WWE and Dwayne own it and both are free to use it as they please.

 

[akrassikauda]

Dragon Saga has a point. MVP still uses the name in NJPW. Ultimate Warrior and Hulk Hogan can still make money off of there stage names as well.

 

[kingk12]

This trademark is not for DH Smith, Vladimir Kozlov, or Chris Masters. The name is trademarked to be used by Colt Cabana, think about it, that can be his return gimmick "I was future endavoured", and further CM Punk's storyline. I definatly see him coming back as Colt Cabana and teaming up with CM Punk in this whole us v. the world gimmick.

 

[InuJoshua]

This trademark is not for DH Smith, Vladimir Kozlov, or Chris Masters. The name is trademarked to be used by Colt Cabana, think about it, that can be his return gimmick "I was future endavoured", and further CM Punk's storyline. I definatly see him coming back as Colt Cabana and teaming up with CM Punk in this whole us v. the world gimmick.

Hahaha, I read this whole topic to see if anyone posted Cabana and it wasn't until the very last one.

I completely agree. I mean, I can't see it being anyone else. Punk is going to need backup against Nash, Johnny Ace and the McMahons, who better but Colt? He can start off "inviting" him to the show like Nash was invited and it can go from there.

And remember, Colt stopped taking Indy bookings this month and had a WWE tryout last week. All of the pieces add up.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

I agree with the poster who said that this is mainly to prevent TNA from using the terms "future endeavored" or "future endeavor" or "Mr. Future Endeavor" to reference former WWE stars who are now signed by TNA.

However, as most seem to think, and I agree, this is probably also for use in a storyline or Angle. Most likely Chris Masters, IMO OR perhaps it's a guy already on the roster who they will "FUTURE ENDEAVOR (kayfabe)" and then bring back then FUTURE ENDEAVOR again, and so and so on, as part of his gimmick, for a push. This person will be known as Mr. Future Endeavor.

I could also see a "future endeavored" match where the loser is "future endeavored" (kayfabe).

There are a number of possibilities with this.

 

[Azane]

They also may of registered the trademark to get the internet talking about the trademark.
Think about how many people are researching future endeavored right now, they probably already made back their trademark costs.

 

[oldhamandy1]

Not read all the thread so sorry if it has been mentioned, but the term is Future Endeavoured. The wording is crucial if it is a new wrestler name, the ed at the end obviously suggests past tense. My guess would be that the wrestler going under this name would have to be some who has ben Future Endeavoured, if it were Ace that it would Endeavourer.

Just going off the wording of the 'name' it could well be Masters, but WWE could ignore convential English and change it. So yeah in summary Endeavoured implies the subject of an action, it is a new name.

 

[mrhexum]

This trademark is not for DH Smith, Vladimir Kozlov, or Chris Masters. The name is trademarked to be used by Colt Cabana, think about it, that can be his return gimmick "I was future endavoured", and further CM Punk's storyline. I definatly see him coming back as Colt Cabana and teaming up with CM Punk in this whole us v. the world gimmick.

^ This I would enjoy and it does make a lot of sense. Colt is the F'n man.

But, on topic. Someone brought up Gene Simmons and his buying trademarks and I believe they were balls on. It was available, cheap, why not? Just smart business on the part of the WWE.

 

[Jeckyl]

Chris Masters stated in a recent interview that Triple H took him aside shortly before his release and said they've noticed marked improvement in him and were ready to return him to tv, but were just looking for an idea to repackage him. Then he gets released and 'crashed' the SummerSlam festivities. We all know WWE could have had him removed if they wanted. "Mr. Future Endeavor" would totally fit if this was a work, just like CM Punk leaving was a work.

From another angle, what about Kevin Nash? The whole idea for this new angle with him is that he was asked to come to the ring during SummerSlam and 'stick' whom ever won the strap. He's being used as a problem solver, a guy who can take people out... i.e. "Future Endeavored".

A third thought, along the lines of being able to take people out, what about Mark Henry? They obviously want to give him a semi-serious push, and he's already taken out Show, Kane and Koslov. He is sorely in need of a repackaging, why not use this new monicker on him?

Just some thoughts...

 

[H33LTurn]

I've started to use this website more during the summer. If my time here has proven anything to me is that most of you dont know about business. WWE coined the term future endeavor and therefore it would only be sensible to trademark the term. As for Mr. FE i think it might be some sort of CM Punk gimmick since he has the whole McMahon/Helmsley/Nash thing going for him.

 

[MaxPlastic]

These are all pretty good thoughts. I think it's most likely WWE just covering their bases and/or getting ready to debut or repackage someone... A thought I did have, though... What about Mick Foley? He's been in and out of the company plenty... It might also be Christian, to work out a new heel persona

 

[brochester8]

In my opinion it has to be for some gimmick of someone that has been released in the past or even recently. I would doubt if it was Masters since he showed up over the weekend during Axxess. OR maybe some type of name of other past wrestlers returning if not masters maybe Gallows, Colt Cabana.

It could have something to do with CM Punk getting a new following of past wrestlers that were released. With him mentioning Master, Gallows, and Cabana in past intereviews it makes me think it's one of them or all of them in a Stable.

I guess we'll see.

 

[Rckstrtmmy]

I could see it being Chris Masters. Not too long ago there was talk of him getting a big push and then he suddenly gets released? Plus, I've heard more about him and from him since he got released so maybe this is all a huge work. If the Nash thing ends up with HHH turning heel, Masters can return and call himself Mr. Future Endeavored and help Punk take on HHH and whoever is on his side. I think it would be a cool idea.

 

[JP Lioneye]

I think the whole idea of Chris Masters returning as "Mr. Future Endeavor" is just plan dumb. It's not that hard to put two and two together. Look at who they've recently made an on screen character .. The Head of Talent Relations Mr. John Laurinaitis, who makes a point in reminding us of his position every time he's on screen. So they now have a man on screen that is responsible for "future endeavor"ing superstars left and right so why not try to get him at least a little over as a heel with a nickname like "Mr. Future Endeavor" hell, even Nash could turn out to be the on screen character it's planned out for but I see no reason behind the WWE releasing Masters just so they can bring him back with a nickname that makes him sound like a jobber. If creative had anything planned for Masters he would've been working Monday nights.

 

[Long Island Iced D]

Yeah I think its Johnny Ace. They seem to be grooming him into an on screen character and since he does the firing the tm's seem to fit. Hey maybe if he wrestles his finisher will be called the future endeavor.

 

[jontabs]

Why is it a stupid idea? Who cares that other places use it, WWE has trademarked it, which, BTW, means for media. It's not like when you get fired at some point and your boss says "best of luck in your future endeavors" you go "AHA I'M GONNA SUE YOU". What the hell are you thinking? Trademarks don't cost very much and WWE will probably make a profit off of it.

Why is it a stupid idea? Because it's exactly like Donald Trump trying to copyright and trademark "You're fired" when The Apprentice was starting out. "Future Endeavor" as a phrase, and in the context of letting people go from their jobs, is nothing the WWE has coined nor popularized. Sure, the smarks and the IWC think it's big, but as it has been said time and again on these forums, the IWC and the smarks are but a small fraction of the actual WWE audience. Hence, you can't say that the WWE has popularized or coined the phrase. It has, and I think should continue to be, part of public domain.

But as I have said, if the trademark is for a "Mr. Future endeavor", that's a totally different thing.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Why is it a stupid idea? Because it's exactly like Donald Trump trying to copyright and trademark "You're fired" when The Apprentice was starting out. "Future Endeavor" as a phrase, and in the context of letting people go from their jobs, is nothing the WWE has coined nor popularized. Sure, the smarks and the IWC think it's big, but as it has been said time and again on these forums, the IWC and the smarks are but a small fraction of the actual WWE audience. Hence, you can't say that the WWE has popularized or coined the phrase. It has, and I think should continue to be, part of public domain.

But as I have said, if the trademark is for a "Mr. Future endeavor", that's a totally different thing.

And Donald Trump made a lot of money off of it. I don't give a shit if you think it's artistic or cool or whatever, it's a good business decision, thus, it's not stupid for a business to do. Who gives a rat's ass who coined the phrase, WWE is the one making money off of it. If you had to be the guy who actually invented something, or the guy who made money off of it, which would you rather be? Of course, you could be an idealist and say you want to be the "true creator" or whatever, but any day I take the money.

 

[jontabs]

And Donald Trump made a lot of money off of it. I don't give a shit if you think it's artistic or cool or whatever, it's a good business decision, thus, it's not stupid for a business to do. Who gives a rat's ass who coined the phrase, WWE is the one making money off of it. If you had to be the guy who actually invented something, or the guy who made money off of it, which would you rather be? Of course, you could be an idealist and say you want to be the "true creator" or whatever, but any day I take the money.

Just FYI, Donald Trump wasn't able to trademark "You're fired" for the exact reason that it was already in place ever before he started using. He didn't make "a lot of money off of it". His trademark attempt was denied because he tried to trademark a phrase that was in use since the 18th century. By analogy, the WWE is trying to do the same thing, that's why I think it's stupid.