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So what are the opinions of where this title will go in the coming months?

While a feud is apparently about to get under way between MacIntyre and Hardy, I personally feel Hardy will lose the feud in the end (if it even continues), which leaves me to wonder if Dolph Ziggler or maybe even Shad will be next in line.

Again personally I feel the whole MacIntyre thing is going nowhere anytime soon and hope he loses the title asap. Also, what are the opinions on the title potentially swapping brands with the United States Championship after the Draft?
 
I really don't get what Vince sees in MacIntyre. The WWE really needs to work on building his character. I've said it multiple times MacIntyre gets no fan reaction at all. They don't even boo him. Hopefully a feud with Hardy can get the crowd booing him. Back on topic though, I really hope Drew drops the title. I wouldn't mind seeing Dolph or Morrison get a title run. However I don't see that happening anytime soon. I think Drew will be champ for a long time.
 
I think WWE is having him go over both Hardy and Kane in a desperate attempt to build him up as a legit champion. Regardless of the way both Hardy and Kane have been booked recently, the fact of the matter is that scoring wins over the both of these guys who have gives you instant credibility.

Personally, I find McIntyre boring but I think I understand the direction WWE is going with him. At least he wasn't thrust into the main event scene like Sheamus was. WWE putting the IC title on him was a smart move, IMO and a direction Sheamus would've gone down in an ideal world. Putting the IC title on McIntyre is just what the IC title and the US title should both be used for and that's building up rookies and midcarders, getting over with the crowd and testing them out to see if they can handle being world champion. By having McIntyre feud with credible stars like Hardy and Kane, they are getting his feet wet in preparaton for a potential world title run. It's a given he'll be a world champion one day, IMO.

It's called a slow build. People are so impatient these days. Give it a few more months. He might be green now but I think he can still make it to the main event scene eventually. At least WWE didn't put the world title on him early.

As far as the US title goes, it really depends on whether or not John Morrison gets drafted to Raw or not, IMO. If he gets drafted to Raw, I say the US title stay on Raw so Miz can feud with Morrison over it. I say this because I'm assuming we are in for a long Miz title reign which I don't have a problem with. If Morrison stays on Smackdown, Miz should be drafted along with the US title. This will also open up fresh feuds for Miz and he can end up becoming a top player on SD. He's a top midcarder on Raw so I can see him as a Main Eventer on SD.
 
Slow builds are lame sometimes, but hey, it keeps people from burning out, which is good. Thats the way I would have it, actually.

Take MVP, for example. I see him as a big-time player eventually. But they don't want to do it yet, so they kind of keep him on the back burner to seriously keep their mid-card LOADED.

Anyway, McIntyre as IC champion is a very smart move, and letting him have a long reign isn't a bad thing. The longest reign of any sort in recent memory is Benjamin's US title reign back in '08 - '09. I'd like to see a long reign for once, even if its a mid-card title. I HATED the constant world title changes between the same superstars time and time again.
 
Personally, I'd like to see his fued with Hardy continue, culmulating with Hardy winning the title and getting a decent push while at the same time making McIntyre look like a formidable threat. This comes off well for both parties and then McIntyre can move to upper midcard after hopefully having some gimmick match experience which he most likely would with Hardy. I'd like to see Matt have a longish reign too. He was great as the ECW champion so it'd be good to see him be a champion again.
 
I have been curious about the IC belt myself. I don't see what Vince see's in McIntyre, but then again that's why I'm watching Smackdown and he's running it. If Vince thinks Drew can go places, don't look for him to lose the title anytime soon (especially not to Fatt Hardy). I wouldn't mind seeing a tweener-Dolph Ziggler feud with Drew after this crap with Hardy is over.

Do I see Drew coming to Raw, and Miz going to Smackdown? Not really. Miz seems well suited for the more adult-oriented Raw, and Drew is having some success on Smackdown. I'm not saying I don't want it to happen, I just don't care. Also, I don't see a reason for it at this point in time. Neither guy is ready for a major, main event push, IMO.
 
The fact is Vince is prepping Drew for a World Title reign it's a similar situation to the one Orton was in in 2004. He's giving him a lengthly run with the secondary title to build his credibility before having him run with the big belt. It's a standard formulae and they've used it for years. He won't lose it to Hardy, that I'm almost guarantee. he'll most likely feud with someone fresh and different after the draft and eventually drop it to soemone who is in the mid card. While I like McIntyre, I still thinks he has a lot of work to convince me that he's World Championship material. I would enjoy seeing Dolph Ziggler finally getting the IC Title after the amount of losses he had last year as a challenger. He's being built up quite well with his new finisher and is getting victories over credible opponents like R-Truth.
 
I think Dolph needs to challenge for it next. I see him winning it in the coming months, maybe as a face, who knows?

As for the current champion, Drew Mc, I think he can wrestle, but since winning the title at TLC ppv, I haven't enjoyed any of his fights. Just like the miz, Ihope both there reigns come to an end soon.
 
I like Drew is a great character. I like how they did away his losing matches. I like his ability, his mic skills could use a little work. His enterance is very orignal and just good looking. I'd give it about a year before he is a world champ. They just need to think of a better finisher for him. Anyone can hit a DDT. Hell, half of the Divas finishers are DDTs.
 
I can see Drew McIntyre getting drafted to Raw at the draft so the intercontential championship will follow him there. I think that he will lose the title soon and that he will be wrestling mainly on superstars after he loses it. As for who gets the title, possibly Kofi Kingston, Christian, John Morrison or R-truth
 
So what are the opinions of where this title will go in the coming months?

Again personally I feel the whole MacIntyre thing is going nowhere anytime soon and hope he loses the title asap.
I think the Intercontinental title will stay on McIntyre's waist for a very very long time. I don't see anyone beating him or even challenging him really. This guy is gonna get a ridiculous push and everyone knows it. This kid has got it all. He has the hot wife, he has the looks, the behind the scene power, the finisher and the mic skills to be a top heel in the company for a very long time. Hell, he even has the best entrance that I've seen since Randy Orton's golden shower.

McIntyre reminds everyone,including me, of a young HHH and you can just feel the star power oozing out of this kid. VKM must be licking his chops thinking about the monetary value this kid possesses when he finally main events Wrestlemania. I mean just think about it, all the little kids hate him and all adults love this guy. He's PG at its best. I see big things in store for McIntyre.

You posted a thread about him LOSING the championship. You already hate him and he's done nothing really to deserve that hate, therefore the young man is already doing his job as a WWE wrestler. Look for McIntyre to carry this company on his back in the future. I see a Randy Orton-like following in the coming years. Think sigs made by Doc and Theo in 2-3 years and names like McIntyre100 or FutureShock 123 as names on this forum. McIntyre is the future of this company and the Intercontinental championship will stay with with him for a very long time.

Also, what are the opinions on the title potentially swapping brands with the United States Championship after the Draft?
Going off on what I said about McIntyre keeping the title around his waist, I too, like many others, believe that Drew is probably switching brands at the Draft. One thing popped into my head when I realized that he has a high probability of going over to Raw, what about a unification match with the Miz for both titles? Wouldn't that be a match of the ages?

Two of the biggest up and coming stars in the business going one on one to unify the belts? And you know who my pick is to win this match. Thats right, Drew McIntyre. VKM is gonna push this kid past the moon and to the Andromeda Galaxy. Just think, Drew McIntyre: Intercontinental and United States Champion. Sounds good to me. The kid is just 24 meaning he'll be in this business for another 20 years so you better get used to him. He's not going away anytime soon. He'll probably be Heavyweight Champion after next year's Wrestlemania and I wouldn't be surprised if he is one before. If Drew does in fact switch brands, I and many people will be tuning in to RAW to witness the astronomical rise of this superstar.

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I can see Drew McIntyre getting drafted to Raw at the draft so the intercontential championship will follow him there. I think that he will lose the title soon and that he will be wrestling mainly on superstars after he loses it. As for who gets the title, possibly Kofi Kingston, Christian, John Morrison or R-truth

If your saying Drew is going to be mainly on Superstars than I have to disagree with you. Its been said that HBK thinks (thought?) highly of him and VKM does as well, thus him coming out and saking he has handpicked him to be the World Heavyweight Champ. And we are continually reminded of it. So I don't see Drew just falling off after he loses the belt.

I do think it might be some time before Drew loses the IC title. Giving him a solid run with this belt and facing some legit midcarders/occasional M.E can help him in the long run. I believe that we should see a feud with Ziggler and have him drop it. Ziggler has started to reestablish himself after he was dropped in favor of Morrison. After Drew drops the title I believe he gets up to the M.E scene.
 
You posted a thread about him LOSING the championship. You already hate him and he's done nothing really to deserve that hate, therefore the young man is already doing his job as a WWE wrestler.


Nah I don't hate him. Just bored of him. Aside from a couple of them, his latest matches have been him losing to midcarders. Lost to Kane and Matt Hardy in the qualifying MitB matches, beat a nobody local to get in, lost to Undertaker (not a mid carder, but still another loss) lost the MitB match, barely beat Matt Hardy, then was demolished by Kane and only won by disqualification which I'm sure everyone was questioning (people have pushed someone else back into the ring without a disqualification before, and Drew was walking away about to be counted out as well).

I know they want to build him up, but he has no momentum, and his latest matches aren't exactly showcasing an amazing wrestling ability. He's going in reverse in my opinion, and that's why I want him to drop the title. I don't want to see a guy who loses to mid carders on a weekly basis holding a title, it makes it look like a joke.
 
The next Intercontinenal Champion is Matt Hardy.
He has started to fued with Drew Mcintyre.Considering Kane already had his chance its the only option(other than Shelton Benjamin)
 
The Intercontinental Championship is one the most historic titles in the WWE. When it was first reactivated in 2002, it got some nice exposure, but along the way fell to the way side and wasn't defended a lot and was battled over. It was a prop for a while it seemed. Then last year, after Rey Beat JBL for the title, things changed and the belt became important again. It should ALWAYS be treated as royalty. Many great wrestlers have held that title and at one time was considered almost as great as a world title.

As for the feud between McIntyre and Hardy, if done right, this could be like Hardy/MVP 2. The feud could spread out over the course of the year, with McIntyre winning out in the end. Have Matt win it at some point and hold it for 2 to 4 months, while facing McIntyre frequently, but plug other superstars into the mix as well along the way.
 
I think the McIntyre/Hardy feud is just time killer. I honestly don't see McIntyre losing the title anytime soon. I think they gave it to him a bit to soon, but now that he has it, hes gonna keep it for some time. I think the frequent "injuries" to Hardy's head are going somewhere. I think he'll take some time off(hopefully lose some weight. BTW, WTF happened to him?) come back in some months and finally beat McIntyre for the title.

I agree that they need to start treating the IC belt with waaaaaaaaaaaay more respect. It's actually my 2nd favorite belt(first being the Hardcore Belt, which the seriously need to bring back).

As far as combining the IC with the US title, I dont see that happening. Both shows need a # 2 belt. I think both the IC and US belt need to be defended more, but not lost.
 
The build up for Drew McIntyre has been a long one and, sometimes, that's just how it goes. Some wrestlers are able to get over quickly and some aren't. It's only been a recent development, recent as within maybe the past month, that McIntyre has finally developed some heat as a heel. He gets some decent heat now, whereas you basically had dead air with him before. It was as if people didn't really care if he came out and did his thing or not.

As for his feud with Matt Hardy, I think it's gone about as far as it can. With the exception of the MITB qualifying match these two had, McIntyre has soundly beaten Hardy in every match they've had and has beaten him cleanly. There's not really much else to do with them and it's time to move McIntyre onto someone else. There's no shortage of credible mid-card wrestlers in the WWE to challenge McIntyre so the next champ could wind up being anyone, depending upon where McIntyre lands in the WWE Draft this Monday. Christian, John Morrison, Kofi Kingston, Dolph Ziggler, MVP, CM Punk, etc.
 
I personally don't mind Drew McIntyre, but I think it's time for someone new to get the IC Championship. Drew should be drafted to RAW.RAW would give him more legitimate opportunities, but there he has a better chance of dropping the title. I think that Dolph Ziggler should step up and take it, for Dolph certainly has the skills and that would be a solid match up. If Drew goes to RAW, I think Christian or Kofi will get the title. I wouldn't be surprised if MVP got a shot at it.
 
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Is it just me, or does Drew McIntyre look like Zarbon From Dragonball Z. Look.


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I think so.

At any rate, I think it would be best for McIntyre to go to Raw and Miz to Smack Down. I would like to see John Morrison go to Raw as well as I think he could use the push that Miz got from being there. The Rosters, I feel, need a great change. It seems like the two have been primarily the exact same for a lot longer than a year. I'd like to see Raw get a face lift myself. Smack Down I think has the better roster for the most part ATM, with a few adjustments you could have Raw looking like the "A" show for more reasons than it being on Monday Night. Let's face it, a lot of the roster has become stale to watch, I can predict almost every episode of Raw based on the last one, and that is not good. With a new set of characters things could get a lot more interesting which is what I believe the draft is all about anyways.

Here are the proposed draft choices I would make myself.

From the start I take JoMo and Drew over to Raw, while taking Cody Rhodes and Ted Jr to Smack Down. That works out pretty nice because you are exchanging a face for a face and a heel for a heel. I think everyone knows that Ted is going to be a face, and Cody will remain a heel, so that evens those two out strengthening both rosters.

Second pick, Big Show to Smack Down so he and The Miz can carry on the tag titles, bringing over C.M. Punk to Raw who is need of some heels.

Third pick, Edge to Raw, Randy Orton to Smack Down. Right now you can basically call them both faces, and both shows would benefit from the trade because new entrants into the top tier would arrive, you don't lose anything, and you freshen things up.

That's probably about as much as I would mix it up, because I don't want either show to be Heel or Face heavy, I think this would for the most part even it all out by perception at least.


I know this is off the beaten path, but the point is that it changes the landscape of both shows making the competition for the IC and US titles a little stiffer, and gives them a new home, and new challengers. I think the IC should always be on Raw as it really is the longest running title in the company technically. The Classic IC is my favorite belt of all time, easily.

As for what is going to happen with the IC, I have no idea and I'm not going to lie and say I do. Like most of you I don't see Matt Hardy taking the belt from McIntyre as he is one of the companies biggest jobbers now next to Kane and Shelton Benjamin. If Drew is drafted to Raw though, I could see a feud with him and Kofi, pending he doesn't go to Smack Down. The other possibility I could see for him on Raw would be a feud with Christian.

I think that would do him a lot of good to work a program with Christian, especially after working with Matt Hardy. Use another veteran to really hammer out the ring work with him. If either Kofi or Christian got the title too, that would help either of those guys right now, even though some might see it as a step down, having the title still says your the #2 guy so that is saying something.
 
I actually think that the Intercontinental Championship scene could have been SO MUCH more interesting if the creative team gave it more attention. I mean back when Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, and John Morrison held the title, it felt that it meant something again. It felt like the people involved wanted to win it. And it felt that the challenger (mostly Dolph Ziggler) looked like he wanted nothing more than to be Intercontinental Champion.

Since Drew McIntyre won the Intercontinental Championship almost 5 months ago, the title has seemed just as boring as it's been in the past few years. Now, with the draft over now, Drew McIntrye has even more potential challengers to go after his title. From Matt Hardy to M.V.P. to Finlay to Chavo Guerrero to Chris Masters to Kofi Kingston... it's non-stop.

Hopefully, the Smackdown creative team will take advantage of that. If McIntyre's title reign is as long as it has been... defend it as much as possible. I hate long title reign that have no defenses until you lose the title.
 
Since the day Drew Mac won the IC belt in TLC 2009, it feels like a hole was dug up, the belt was put there, and buried.

I remember back in the 90's the IC belt was the hottest thing after the WWE Championship. Whomever had that belt was seen as one considered to possibly gaining the main championship. Plus it took stars such as Michaels, Bret, Austin, Rock to the next level.

Its like Michaels said once "Its not the belt that makes the man, its the man that makes the belt" Im sure its not Drew's fault that he doesnt have more time on tv with the belt, but I think since this whole MITB thing started years ago, its sort of taken away from the IC belt's importance. Now if you win the MITB, you can you go and cash the damn thing and win the World title and the world is yours. Skipping the IC belt.

I see more of the US Title on Miz's shoulder than the IC belt being defended.
 
The title lsot it's meaning long before McIntyre held it. Pretty much when the brand split happened was when it started to become bit boring and more of a prop to add feul to a feud as opposed to something to have a feud over. It's needs it's prestige back but WWE has done so much harm to it that it's not gonna be a quick fix.
 
The prestige will indeed be a long fix in order to restore it, but can be done if it was defended every ppv or twice a month. The champion needs a few minutes of promo time and or a match every week. Honestly it's not that hard. WWE wants to push the entertainment part soo hard nobody has a chance outside of the top 5 guys to promote anything half of the time. SmackDown is the better wrestling show, but it doesn't need to have a 10 to 15 minute Vickie/McCool/Layla lesbo fest every week.

Give Drew or his challengers to the title 2 or 3 minutes to cut a promo or something. Hell put them more matches. The #1 contender against a jobber or the champion in a tag match to showcase 4 mid cards or something. Just an idea!
 
Yeah it did. I thought it was coming back up during the Mysterio/Jericho fued...guess not. It's not defended much for one thing. And in recent weeks all Drew's been doing is beating the crap out of Matt Hardy...not defending it against him. Maybe if Drew starts defending it more in more upscale fueds...maybe with Christian or Kofi could bring it up a little
 
I think it's importance comes and goes, your right though MITB has faded it into more significance because one of the companies older belts isn't defended at the grandest stage of them all (And JBL vs Mysterio doesn't count!)

I think we will see the mid-card belts become more of a summer hting in being defended, they are always gonna be there and I just reckon the company has more important things at the moment, the tag belt division and keeping us hooked to the screens after wrestlemania!
 

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