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It's Damn Real!
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...so Bram's done, eh?
It's Damn Real!
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He was so fucking good, too. What a waste.
Yes an unfortunate waste. TNA cannot win. They really need to step up and be non WWE.
Well i saw Bubba Ray tonight at RAW. I kept screaming Bully Ray since that is his best gimmick ever. Seeing Sting was cool too. I guess money can truly buy your soul.
Well i saw Bubba Ray tonight at RAW. I kept screaming Bully Ray since that is his best gimmick ever. Seeing Sting was cool too. I guess money can truly buy your soul.
...by letting him run your show along with Easy E?
The real shame is that he signed all those multi-year contracts. He can get off one year of those for every year he spends in jail (which can't be too far off).
It's Damn Real!
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I can't blame anyone for going to WWE. They're the cream of the crop.
I certainly don't hold it against Sting or Bully Ray for going there.
It's Damn Real!
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Well, no. That's subjective, though. What you or I consider the best isn't going to necessarily be what everyone else considers the best. But for a pro wrestler looking to make a name, I can't blame any of them for wanting to at least have a cup of coffee with WWE, seeing as they're one of the few companies left on the planet who can fill a stadium with people who want to see their product.
klunderbunker
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Not to mention a stint in WWE is probably worth a lot more in future indy appearances. Being in TNA used to be a big deal, but given how many TNA names are in GFW now, it really doesn't have much value.
It's Damn Real!
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Being in TNA years ago probably also paid off on future indy appearances too. I don't know if it still does, but I'd bet good money it did back when they were on Spike and were clearly the second biggest wrestling company in the U.S.
All I'm saying is that being a pro wrestler is like being a pro athlete in any other sport. Your goal should be to play against the best competition and make the most money considering how quickly your career can be cut short. In that respect, I can't blame anyone for making a competition and/or financially motivated decision to work for a company like WWE after having spent so much time not. Someone like Sting, for example. It's his legacy. He can write it how he sees fit. If he feels the time is right and that he needs and wants to close out his career in WWE, good for him.
As fans, we can choose to watch or not. I'm not. I love Sting more than any other wrestler on the planet, but as is well documented and not worth going into again (for your sakes), much as I want to watch him wrestle, I don't want to watch WWE programming. So I make the choice not to.
But I certainly don't hold it against Sting for betraying TNA or TNA fans, or anything of the sort. It's nonsense to think such a thing. The same as guys going from WWE to WCW or vice versa years ago was equally not betrayal. I watch TNA because I enjoy TNA, and because it resonated with me as a product the most of all the other products I tried to get into (ROH, WWE) years back. I'm also enjoying Lucha Underground these days, and to a lesser extent ROH when I sometimes kick back and watch their Destination America syndication hour. When TNA goes under, I'll probably continue to watch Lucha, provided it returns, and ROH in the same intermittent sense. I probably still won't watch WWE, but these are all my choices to make. The wrestlers themselves make their own, and I'll never fault them for choosing a product I don't happen to enjoy, the same as I wouldn't stop watching hockey just because a player I like joined a team I didn't. I might stop watching that player as often, but that's OK. I just find other players to watch on teams I don't dislike.
All I'm saying is that being a pro wrestler is like being a pro athlete in any other sport. Your goal should be to play against the best competition and make the most money considering how quickly your career can be cut short. In that respect, I can't blame anyone for making a competition and/or financially motivated decision to work for a company like WWE after having spent so much time not. Someone like Sting, for example. It's his legacy. He can write it how he sees fit. If he feels the time is right and that he needs and wants to close out his career in WWE, good for him.
As fans, we can choose to watch or not. I'm not. I love Sting more than any other wrestler on the planet, but as is well documented and not worth going into again (for your sakes), much as I want to watch him wrestle, I don't want to watch WWE programming. So I make the choice not to.
But I certainly don't hold it against Sting for betraying TNA or TNA fans, or anything of the sort. It's nonsense to think such a thing. The same as guys going from WWE to WCW or vice versa years ago was equally not betrayal. I watch TNA because I enjoy TNA, and because it resonated with me as a product the most of all the other products I tried to get into (ROH, WWE) years back. I'm also enjoying Lucha Underground these days, and to a lesser extent ROH when I sometimes kick back and watch their Destination America syndication hour. When TNA goes under, I'll probably continue to watch Lucha, provided it returns, and ROH in the same intermittent sense. I probably still won't watch WWE, but these are all my choices to make. The wrestlers themselves make their own, and I'll never fault them for choosing a product I don't happen to enjoy, the same as I wouldn't stop watching hockey just because a player I like joined a team I didn't. I might stop watching that player as often, but that's OK. I just find other players to watch on teams I don't dislike.
klunderbunker
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Indeed.
I don't see how anyone can see it as a betrayal. Sting spent over ten years in TNA and did a lot of good things for them. It's not his fault that they're incompetent. Sting had a better offer and took it. That's not a betrayal.
It's Damn Real!
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Right. It's not like he buried them, either, or left while under contract, or anything of the sort. He made a choice as a free agent to move on for what he felt were greener pastures. Good for him.
Just like Joseph's dream about the seven fat cows and the seven skinny cows, these are the fat years. Even though you can be a pro wrestler much longer than most contact sports, the concept is the same.
In the developing world, athletes often get criticized and even excluded from national selection for playing for a European team, but it's a business and if you make a lot of dough now and don't blow it all on cars, houses and garish accessories, you can set yourself up for life.
In the developing world, athletes often get criticized and even excluded from national selection for playing for a European team, but it's a business and if you make a lot of dough now and don't blow it all on cars, houses and garish accessories, you can set yourself up for life.
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A always I'm late to the discussion. I have to agree that a lot of fans take wrestlers jumping to and from promotions as betrayals are living in glass houses. When Sting went to WWE, I gave him his props for doing what he had to do, but I'm not watching. Same as when Kevin Steen made the jump. While I miss him in ROH, it doesn't make me like the promotion any less. Hell, if I can find away to watch Lucha Underground I'll check them out as well, mainly to see Willie Mack again. WWE is the top of the pyramid, and if you can get your notoriety and money with them, then do you. If these are the dying days of TNA, then I'll ride with them until its over.
I never once said I never liked any thing with Sting being in WWE. I simple said it does not make the WWE the true cream of the crop. Sure they have millions of fans but does not mean in my eyea their programming is the best ever.
Seeing Sting was cool but knowing money can buy your soul is crazy. Great that you would be able to get bigger indy paychecks or whatever. Great for it to submit your legacy as an all time great. But the fact that WWE will never recognize how many titles Sting has won is frustrating. Something TNA would do since he is an icon.
Seeing Sting was cool but knowing money can buy your soul is crazy. Great that you would be able to get bigger indy paychecks or whatever. Great for it to submit your legacy as an all time great. But the fact that WWE will never recognize how many titles Sting has won is frustrating. Something TNA would do since he is an icon.
It's Damn Real!
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...so who the hell is coming back to TNA? I hate rumors like this.
klunderbunker
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So do I, as they set up something like a big deal and then screw it up because it's a disappointment.
It's Damn Real!
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Or fade off into nothing. But I especially hate these because it's vague as can be "someone" "could be" returning "in some capacity" that we don't know or can't speculate on.
It's utterly baseless. It's like reading your favorite sports team "may be interested, maybe, in bringing in someone who used to be with them, in a role we can't say, if they even come at all, and we don't know when, or why".
Um... OK?
It's utterly baseless. It's like reading your favorite sports team "may be interested, maybe, in bringing in someone who used to be with them, in a role we can't say, if they even come at all, and we don't know when, or why".
Um... OK?
klunderbunker
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My question is where they're going to return. Bound For Glory? The always mentioned next TV tapings?
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