If you don't respect Roman Reigns now...

[Sexcellence of Sexecution]

Lesnar vs. Reigns was the best match of the night. It was the best because it felt real. All of Lesnar's matches feel real and that's why he's so over. Roman did fine, but ultimately that match was more about Brock than Reigns. Brock is now in a position to chase the Title as a babyface, and he still looks like an unstoppable machine.

Last night Brock Lesnar was solidified as the top face in the company, not Roman Reigns. Seth Rollins was solidifed as the top heel. Lesnar vs. Rollins is the money match now.

 

[PeterSellersSTL]

Those of you slating Reigns need to realise some stuff.

First of all, he did AS HE WAS TOLD by Brock, who was calling the match. It was very obvious the strategy, "I'n not giving you many openings, but when you get one you SHOOT...hit me as hard as you can". Each time, he bloodied Brock a bit more, playing into his "if he bleeds" mentality... then Brock told him to use the ring post to play off of Brock's only real "weakness", concussions at Mania... and he did, Whether he was legit concussed or not, Brock SOLD that and THEN Reigns got his chance.

Why it went down this way who knows? Maybe Roman DID fail Wellness and this was kind of the punishment. Maybe Brock balked at losing to Reigns but was happier for Reigns to be pinned after proving him human... Maybe Vince saw what Rollins did earlier in the night, turning the dogshit Randy Orton was producing and turning it into gold and said "fuck it, we're going with this guy". Brock didn't lose out and neither did Reigns here.

Reigns flaws were exposed in the match, by design... he hit too many Superman punches and Spears, part of his arc now is that he can incorporate that into his story, he finds a mentor or manager who teaches him more, a killer submission for example...so that next time he can be more prepared... If Zybysko didn't seem a bit flakey at the HOF he'd have been perfect for it.

Reigns proved he has progressed a HELL of a lot in a short space of time, but Rollins is clearly WAY ahead in all areas so it's logical he got the nod over Roman... If they're smart, they start repackaging Roman slightly as of now, get him in better shape so he can ditch the vest... get rid of the Shield music/entrance, give him some more moves... Then not only is he in the hunt, but he's gonna start making some clean kills.

entirely way too much speculation and pontificating. They foreshadowed Rollins cashing in the RAW after fastlane when Reigns challenged him to make it a triple threat, to speculate that Reigns failed a wellness policy is ridiculously irresponsible. Ridiculous. Asinine and plain dumb. When did he fail it? After fastlane or before because if he failed it before fastlane and they wanted to punish him they could have easily went with Daniel Bryan. Competing in the main event of Wrestlemania is the privilege. Rollins had a dick pic scandal and still walked out of Wrestlemania the Champion.

And the WWE limits movesets, Reigns was dominated this entire match when he got his opening you expected him to go for what exactly? mat chain wrestling? He was in a fight Maggle!! A wounded animal doesn't respond with an a chinlock resthold it's kill or be killed!

I don't need to quit watching wrestling I need to quit visiting online wrestling forums.

 

[swamprat37]

I never really understood the hate for Reigns,always came off as irrational.
I like Reigns,but that being said he was pushed too far too fast. Much like The Rock was when he first showed up,he was shoved down peoples throats and hated for it,so maybe that's why some of the hatred of Reigns is out there.

Reigns needs to take advantage of the boos and go full heel,and let more of the arrogant personality he's shown before come out. Maybe he can team with the Usos and form a modern day Samoan Swat Team,hell throw in Samoa Joe to that mix and find them a decent mouthpiece.

 

[MCMG]

I was already a Reigns fan but he delivered yet again. Unfortunately for him he is firmly in the same place as Cena but without the respect factor. Many "smart" fans will boo him and others will join in.

If we are looking at Reigns as a performer in the ring then it is actually astonishing. He has been wrestling for such a short time yet is already very good. Plus he has an incredible list of top matches. From his time in The Shield as a three man unit and two. Indeed, him and Rollins made the tag-titles interesting.

Now as a singles where these last two matches have been fantastic. That match with Bryan was tremendous and it allowed him to show off what he can do. He truly needed that match with Bryan because guys like Show and Kane were doing nothing for him. Now to Mania, all the pressure in the world and he delivered. It can't be easy wrestling Brock but Reigns did exactly what he had to. Plus his comeback was absolutely magnificent.

Reigns has had an incredible few years but the last two months may be absolutely pivotal. Indeed, he has done everything required of him and that sets up the future very well. Against two completely different opponents as well. The only thing missing his some top quality promos but he'll get there. The guy is a legit star, no doubt.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Didn't watch. I'm not surprised the match was enjoyable. My interest in professional wrestling does not begin and end at Mania. Reigns and WWE failed to make me interested enough to watch. Hopefully last night's success will help give Reigns the confidence and direction to become a more well rounded entertainer. I also hope WWE considers more well rounded entertainers when booking and building their main events.

 

[Jeritron5000]

The vast majority of people that didn't want Reigns in the main event do not hate him, nor do they not respect him. They just know it wasnt his time. So did WWE when they let Rollins walk away as champion. Reigns played his role fine last night but surely it doesn't make you an asshole for not "respecting" him, which again I don't think is the case. It's really easy to be like "Oh you didn't want Lesnar/Reigns? You fuckin Daniel Bryan crybaby smark." Thats nonsense. The real question to you OP is why do you hate Roman Reigns so much that you are totally cool with his career suffering by main eventing Mania when he wasn't ready?

 

[teampunk]

great mania. great ending. 100 percent reigns will be headlining a few more manias before his career is done. i can see him fighting wars all year long and winning the rumble again next year.

 

[pepentorresHHH]

Before the Royal Rumble, I was a big fan of Roman Reigns, but since then I`ve been in complete disagreement of how fast his push has been without actually taking the time to build his skills up to the point where the number one guy of the company should have them.

His mic skills need work. I don't see him speaking for 15 minutes to open Raw, thats just me some people might disagree. His move set is broad enough. he has his moves that people know, they are high impact and fit him.

My problem was/is Daniel Bryan and where the writers took the story. Daniel Bryan should have been kept OUT of the RR and told us he was still injured and never put roman and bryan in competition because obviously Bryan will get and possibly for a long time the better reaction. Add to that the the royal rumble this year was atrocious didn't help matters.....

They did what they could with Reigns, beating Bryan, reducing his promos etc for the next 2 months but ultimately without good enough mic skills Paul Heyman carried the narrative of the build for the match. Roman didn't hold up his end on this feud because of his limitations and the writers giving him close to nothing to work with by keeping Lesnar and Reigns apart (reigns shines with physicality).

Now, as far as Wrestlemania. The crowd was against him, so unless you want a repeat of the royal rumble, he was never leaving with the belt. He got his ass kicked for 10 minutes straight and after 3 F5s he got a lucky break when Brock started bleeding. 3 superman punches and 2 spears weren't enough to keep him down and then Rollins pins him.

The thing is..... he didn't wrestle a match IMO... he was on the receiving end of a beating and then did his signature moves for 2 minutes until Rollins came in and pinned him. HIM


Overall I respect Reigns and know that he is only doing what Vince and creative told him to do. He looked like a million bucks by never quitting against Brock but ultimately he had 3 strikes that caused him to lose at Mania
1) He is No Daniel Bryan
2) Creative gave him close to nothing to work with
3) His Mic skills are not up to par with the spot they are giving him

 

[laodaron]

The vast majority of people that didn't want Reigns in the main event do not hate him, nor do they not respect him. They just know it wasnt his time. So did WWE when they let Rollins walk away as champion. Reigns played his role fine last night but surely it doesn't make you an asshole for not "respecting" him, which again I don't think is the case. It's really easy to be like "Oh you didn't want Lesnar/Reigns? You fuckin Daniel Bryan crybaby smark." Thats nonsense. The real question to you OP is why do you hate Roman Reigns so much that you are totally cool with his career suffering by main eventing Mania when he wasn't ready?

So, it's only the time for someone when they're champion? Did the WWE decide that it wasn't Lesnar's time when they booked Rollins to take the belt? This IS Reigns' time. He looked like an all-time legend last night. Really? The only issue I had was his hair gets in the way. Otherwise, I felt lik ei was watching two 15 year vets going at each other.

 

[Blade]

What happened to Undertaker last year with Lesnar was one of the worst decisions in WWE history, don't even get me started on that crap again.

And yet you keep watching. All I know is that the ending of the Undertaker's streak gave rise to one of the best characters we've seen in a while in the form of 2014 Brock Lesnar.

And I said "IF it wasn't for Seth Rollins, it would have gone down as ONE of the worst WrestleMania main events". Learn how to read.

Yeah, I did read that. But I also thought it's utterly ridiculous for someone's opinion on a match to change so drastically due to the final 90 seconds. Unless a match is three minutes long.

 

[#1druid]

It was a good match, if reigns was coming back for the win I'd have disagreed with him getting dominated so long but given the ending it made sense. Lesnar proved he can be a ring general and I was really impressed. Still don't like Reigns but if he can improve his mic work he can/could be a star. This was the best ending for all 3 men, I got really nervous that Rollins was about to be made to look like a jackass by cashing in and losing, I.e. Only being there so lesnar/reigns could win without pinning lesnar/reigns. The WWE did this smart as their next top star's celebration ceremony would have been shit on so delaying it was all they can really do. I think roman and rollins are going to come out of this bigger and lesnar's mystique has been maintained. Extreme rules being in Chicago so I don't see him winning there but he might be chasing or he might drop down for Orton building towards summerslam. I wonder how this was originally booked.

 

[HORRORHOLIC]

The vast majority of people that didn't want Reigns in the main event do not hate him, nor do they not respect him. They just know it wasnt his time.

That's exactly it, and WWE made a great decision which could very well have saved his career. I think Reigns can be the top guy in the future.

 

[Aquaman6686]

And yet you keep watching. All I know is that the ending of the Undertaker's streak gave rise to one of the best characters we've seen in a while in the form of 2014 Brock Lesnar.

Yeah, I did read that. But I also thought it's utterly ridiculous for someone's opinion on a match to change so drastically due to the final 90 seconds. Unless a match is three minutes long.

2014 Brock Lesnar hasn't impressed me at all. 2002-2004 Brock Lesnar was impressive. But the new Lesnar isn't half the wrestler he used to be, and his matches hold zero appeal to me. I can't believe the way so many fans buy into his "mystique" of being invincible. He's just another wrestler, and not a great one anymore.

It didn't change my opinion drastically. I was thoroughly impressed by the whole show, until the main event, where I was bored out of my mind the entire time until the finish, which made it tolerable. But the match itself was by far the worst on the card.

 

[Straightfromthehart]

This really wasn't reigns best performance by any stretch or the imagination. He put on far better performances when with the shield, and even the daniel Bryan match a month ago was better. No new moves or spots. To the op, I respected him before this match, but quite frankly for a mania main event reigns was average.

 

[hollowpoint]

I don't think it's about respect for Reigns. The way he carries himself, you are either going to like him, or you aren't, plain and simple. Reigns worked his ass off last night and sold the beating that he got perfectly. He also delivered some punishment back as well. It takes a big man to take all of what Lesnar dishes out and get back up to fight and he did just that. He's mentally tougher than a lot of the guys who in that spot would fold. Is he ready for the title? Well who are we to say that he is?! If Reigns went over Lesnar last night, I would have been okay with it, just like it was okay that Rollins cashed in his MITB contract. The one thing that the WWE creative did that they probably won't get credit for is give themselves options on how to finish. They didn't write themselves into a corner where there is only one possible outcome. Instead that created several possibilities and kept people interested in the match. I look forward to seeing the direction they take Reigns for the next couple of months.

 

[Mustang Sally]

They didn't write themselves into a corner where there is only one possible outcome. Instead that created several possibilities and kept people interested in the match.

For sure.....and of course, a huge option became available when Brock signed.....but that was just in the last week. During these past months, especially when the apparent certainty that Roman Reigns was to win the title at WM31 was turned upside-down, it must have been really difficult for Creative to write storylines that always contained the issue: "Okay, this is what we'll do, but if Brock re-signs, we'll do it this way." What a pain in the butt Vince McMahon must have been during this period; having to have two sets of plans run by him.

I look forward to seeing the direction they take Reigns for the next couple of months.

Me, too. I believe Reigns did nothing but good for himself with last night's performance. Remember, if the plan in prior months was to have him become world champion, he was aware of it. So, when they had to tell him he wasn't ready, who knows how negatively he might have been effected by that? Instead, he soldiered on, doing a great job of selling for Brock. Here's hoping this improves how he's handled from now on. Hopefully, Roman will still be at (or near) main event status going forward, rather than having Vince McMahon tell the writers: "Let the SOB go back to matches with Zack Ryder."

 

[Navi]

The vast majority of people that didn't want Reigns in the main event do not hate him, nor do they not respect him. They just know it wasnt his time. So did WWE when they let Rollins walk away as champion. Reigns played his role fine last night but surely it doesn't make you an asshole for not "respecting" him, which again I don't think is the case. It's really easy to be like "Oh you didn't want Lesnar/Reigns? You fuckin Daniel Bryan crybaby smark." Thats nonsense. The real question to you OP is why do you hate Roman Reigns so much that you are totally cool with his career suffering by main eventing Mania when he wasn't ready?

This is spot on.

I'm tired of this notion, that if you didn't think Reigns should have been in the main event last night, then you're some sort or cretin who just crawled out from under a rock. A lot of poster's on this site have no issues with Reigns, me included. We just don't think that he is ready for this spot.

If you look at Reigns especially when he is talking on the mic, he looks so uncomfortable. And I think he has to find is own comfort level, when he does he'll come off sounding a lot more natural and won't make so many mistakes. All that comes with experience, and that's all that most posters have been saying. He's young, he's inexperienced and needs a little more time to get his feet wet.

It wouldn't be a slight on his character at all if they had said to him, you need another year. Fine give him something to work with, replace Cena with Reigns. Give Reigns the US title and let him run with it for awhile. As a matter of fact that what they should have done, but they didn't. They threw this kid in there headfirst and the fans turned on him.

He may have one some of them back last night, but it came at the expense of him not winning the title. It will be interesting to see what the WWE has in store for him, and thankfully they didn't damage him too much in their haste to push him to the top.

 

[hollowpoint]

There is a HUGE difference and being "ready" vs getting a proper build. Every one is an expert so determining who is ready and not. Reigns wasn't really given a proper build which caused all the resentment from fans. I don't blame him for taking the ball and running with it though. He didn't have a notable sustained rivalry before being thrusted into the main event picture and that created the "he's not ready" stigma about him. There have been plenty of champions that people thought weren't ready. I mean Jericho beat both The Rock and Stone Cold in the same night to become the 1st Undisputed WWE World Champion and I'm almost 100% sure that NO ONE thought Jericho was ready for that.

 

[Stan Hansen]

Roman and Brock did very well together last night.

Anyone expecting a bunch of crazy spots or a spot fest (like the IWC seems so fascinated with) was fooling themselves. It never needed to be and was never going to be that type of match. Matches one on one with Brock aren't typically going to involve a lot of that type of action.

It's going to be a physical match and that's what it was. It had a very old school feel, it told a story and it told it well. I thought the psychology and chemistry between the two was great and I enjoyed the match.

I'm far from the biggest Reigns supporter but last night was a very good night for Roman Reigns.

 

[Blade]

I'm tired of this notion, that if you didn't think Reigns should have been in the main event last night, then you're some sort or cretin who just crawled out from under a rock. A lot of poster's on this site have no issues with Reigns, me included. We just don't think that he is ready for this spot.

The vast majority of people that didn't want Reigns in the main event do not hate him, nor do they not respect him. They just know it wasnt his time. So did WWE when they let Rollins walk away as champion. Reigns played his role fine last night but surely it doesn't make you an asshole for not "respecting" him, which again I don't think is the case. It's really easy to be like "Oh you didn't want Lesnar/Reigns? You fuckin Daniel Bryan crybaby smark." Thats nonsense. The real question to you OP is why do you hate Roman Reigns so much that you are totally cool with his career suffering by main eventing Mania when he wasn't ready?

Christ, I didn't realise there were so many people with persecution complexes on these forums. Then again, you are pro wrestling fans...

This is nothing to do with whether or not Reigns was ready. I didn't mention his readiness, or lack thereof, in my original post once. This is about how fans believe that it's okay to disrespect people whose wrestling style they don't like. This is about how no matter what Reigns did last night, there are still certain people who would shit all over Reigns. Those people are assholes.

If you boo a hard-working babyface, it is disrespectful. To think otherwise is moronic, and borderline sociopathic. If you believe he's not ready, then stay silent when he comes out. That's what shows that he's not ready or over enough. Don't boo him. And the entire point of this thread is that he deserves respect and kudos for putting on a good match last night. Yet there's still people out there who won't give him his due, and will continue to boo him, using the "he's not ready" line as an excuse for being an asshole.

 

[Navi]

Christ, I didn't realise there were so many people with persecution complexes on these forums. Then again, you are pro wrestling fans...

This is nothing to do with whether or not Reigns was ready. I didn't mention his readiness, or lack thereof, in my original post once. This is about how fans believe that it's okay to disrespect people whose wrestling style they don't like. This is about how no matter what Reigns did last night, there are still certain people who would shit all over Reigns. Those people are assholes.

If you boo a hard-working babyface, it is disrespectful. To think otherwise is moronic, and borderline sociopathic. If you believe he's not ready, then stay silent when he comes out. That's what shows that he's not ready or over enough. Don't boo him. And the entire point of this thread is that he deserves respect and kudos for putting on a good match last night. Yet there's still people out there who won't give him his due, and will continue to boo him, using the "he's not ready" line as an excuse for being an asshole.

Oh seriously thank you for the accolade, you jerk.

Where did I say once in my post that I didn't respect him, and where did I say once that I boo him when he shows up. Please show me because I don't remember saying it at all. Or have you just decided to tar an entire group of fans with you insults.

All I have fucking heard since the Rumble is "Well if you aren't a Reigns fan then fuck you, you're a Daniel Bryan crybaby". What the hell. Since when does having an opinion make you wrong.

I have been a Roman Reigns fan since he debuted in NXT. I have followed him up through the ranks, when he was a member of the Shield. And personally no I don't think he was ready to take the top spot. That where does that equate to the fact I don't respect the guy.

I would have been thrilled if he won last night, but I would also have been worried that his career might have suffered for it. I just realized why should I have to prove anything to you.

 

[Michael J. Fox]

If a baseball player strikes out every time he bats, you don't say "He really knows how to take that 3rd strike though, much respect."

Reigns took a beating, yeah. Takes a lot of balls to do that. His offense was non-existing outside of his finishers (which they overkilled to emphasize Lesnars inability to be taken down). His capitalizations were the same. He doesn't look stronger. What's more important, Lesnar being a monster or Reigns being a legit threat? We all know Lesnar is a beast, Reigns needed to look stronger and put up a balanced offense.

 

[Gavschenko]

I dont see how disliking roman reigns makes you an asshole we all have are favourites everyone here understand why people hate reigns its clear he is not ready he was pushed to soon im sure if they let him build properly fans will respect him. He needs to work on his move set as he doesnt have anything else than the superman punch and the spear

 

[JoeyJoeJoe]

I think Reigns showed that his in-ring charisma...his look, the way he moves, the way he sells...it's there and it's real. He didn't look out of place in that match. Lesnar was in typical beast mode. The guy is just operating at another level right now and proving that his once in awhile matches are worth it. Every time he gets in the ring, it feels like it's the biggest match ever. He carries a lot of gravitas. And ultimately, the right guy won the match...Rollins has been the main event player for months now. He was the guy who carried the main event role inbetween Lesnar's appearances. He is where Bryan was at performance wise last year.

In the end, this is exactly the way the WWE wanted it to go down. I don't believe for a second that Rollins wasn't intended to walk out of there without that belt. I think the only thing the WWE didn't anticipate was the negative reaction many had to Reigns due to shitty hamfisted booking at the Rumble.

 

[Tyrath]

Personally, I never had a problem with Roman Reigns. I had a problem with the way he was being booked. He was being made to look way too strong way before he is ready for it. That much didn't really change. He took a beating and 3 F5s and still kicked out last night. Not even Cena nor Undertaker can say they have done that. He doesn't need to be pushed like Superman. Hopefully WWE will figure that out before they permanently ruin him as a character. Roman Reigns, the man, I have no issues with and I think he can be a huge superstar one day if he is booked properly.