If I were a carpenter / And you were a lady

[Mighty NorCal]

Tom Brady wakes up next to his super model millionaire wife every day. THing is, if he wasn't Tom Brady, Super Bowl winning millionaire QB, and just Tom Brady, Mighigan Wolverines Offensive coordinator / backup QB for the Iowa Barnstormers, she would have never came him a second look. Most likely.

My question is, how would you feel in that situation? If you woke up to a woman / man on a daily basis you knew would have nothing to say to you if you werent of the social status you currently hold? This person doesnt necessarily have to be with FOR what you have, but at the same time, would have never even considered you if you didnt have it?

Say next week, you were all discovered by some talent agency, got your big break into film or whatever, and now you are at parties with amazingly gorgeous movie starlets interested in you? When just last week, they would have NEVER spoken to you?

Would you have an interest in those people? How would you deal with waking up to them on a daily basis if you were to marry? Would this weigh upon your mind or heart?

 

[#1Peep]

I wouldn't be able live with someone like this (the Tom Brady example) who is only associating with me because of my wealth and social status. I don't understand how celebs practically only date/wed people of their same 'stature' when they would obviously know that the only reason they are with this beautiful woman/loaded guy is because of their status.The whole thing would just feel fake and lack any real meaning and, as you said, weigh upon my mind and heart greatly.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

You have to go about living your life, regardless of fame and fortune, the way you want to live it. You can't second guess anyone, or anything.

You definitely can't have a love interest in your life if you're going to constantly second guess whether they'd give you the time of day if you weren't 'who you are'. So on that note; if I became famous or rich, and then met a Woman who suddenly fell in love with me and wanted to be with me.. I'd do what I would've done had I not been rich or famous..

I'd spend time trying to figure out if "I" want to be with her, and if her intentions are true. People can act fake for only so long before their true selves shine through. Posers can't hold that 'pose' forever.

 

[Hazardous]

Tom Brady wakes up next to his super model millionaire wife every day. THing is, if he wasn't Tom Brady, Super Bowl winning millionaire QB, and just Tom Brady, Mighigan Wolverines Offensive coordinator / backup QB for the Iowa Barnstormers, she would have never came him a second look. Most likely.

Drop the "Most likely" and you're right. No doubt about it.

My question is, how would you feel in that situation? If you woke up to a woman / man on a daily basis you knew would have nothing to say to you if you werent of the social status you currently hold? This person doesnt necessarily have to be with FOR what you have, but at the same time, would have never even considered you if you didnt have it?

I'd be thankful for what I got, and know it was due to the time, and work put in to get to that stage. The trophies, and awards (including the hot wife) are just a result of that time put in. The payment for the blood, sweat, and tears.

Say next week, you were all discovered by some talent agency, got your big break into film or whatever, and now you are at parties with amazingly gorgeous movie starlets interested in you? When just last week, they would have NEVER spoken to you?

Again, you be thankful that you get that chance. Not everyone gets to. I'm not going to sit here and lie saying "It wouldn't change me" because your damn rights it would. I'd sit there and lie to myself saying "it wouldn't matter if I had all the money, I'd still be with her, and have all these friends"

Would you have an interest in those people? How would you deal with waking up to them on a daily basis if you were to marry? Would this weigh upon your mind or heart?

Well I probably wouldn't marry.. Only due to my love of women, that I'd end up Tiger Woods-ing it up. But That's they choice they made, to go along with the "prizes" that come with being good at what they do.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

In the beginning, I imagine it would be quite a thrill ride. I think that the post describes a powerful fantasy that just about everyone has had at one time or another. It's also something I sometimes think about when you hear about some celeb that gets a new boyfriend or girlfriend or whatever they break up or whatever and it makes you think how the dynamic of your relationships with people changes through money and fame.

In our society, we've sort of been taught over generations that being with someone just because they have money and/or fame is low class. Some have even gone so far as to call it prostituting one's self. It's true that it doesn't have the emotional intimacy that I think just about everyone ultimately wants to have with a partner but you also have to look at life from a realistic perspective. Not everybody in life is guaranteed to find that "special someone" that's supposed to be out there, nor is everyone is life going to find a happily ever after situation. I think that, at some point, everyone does want an "old fashioned" story in which they fall in love and are loved for who they are and for how they make you feel, but not everybody is fortunate enough to have that in life. Sometimes, you just have to accept the reality of different situations and get what you can while you're able to do so. It might not be ultimately what you're looking for in the end, but it does beat having nobody at all.

Golddiggers are looked down upon in general but, in all honesty, are the ones with the gold that they're digging for really all that better? For instance, how often have you seen or heard about some big star having a girlfriend or marrying a chick with the face of an angel and the body of a goddess? You see such things all the time and men do the same thing all the time, rich or not. When we go out to the clubs and bars looking to meet somebody, we go up to girls that we think are physically hot and hope that it ultimately winds up going to bed with them. Some do want something more later on but, initially, it's all about what we see. When it comes to the rich & famous, they're getting what they want out of it just as their golddigging partners are. Mr. Superstar wants a hottie on his arm and in his bed and the hottie wants all the perks that go along with being Mr. Superstar's squeeze for as long as she can enjoy them.

As for what I'd do if I became the next superstar or whatever, I guess I'd just have to take each situation in stride. Or, at least I'd try to. In the beginning, I've little doubt that I'd sew my oats. I know that the women I'd meet probably would want me primarily because of my fame and/or wealth and I'd be fine with that for a while. After all, that's how the fame game is played. Half the reason guys want to be famous is to get girls anyhow. After a while, I'm almost positive that I'd get tired of it and would want to find someone that really loves me for me. I also know that it'd be difficult to do so, depending upon how famous I was and all. It's easier if you're rich and not famous as you can always hide the fact that you have big bank account much easier than if you just starred in a movie that grossed $500 million worldwide or in a television show that's seen by 25 million people each week. That way, you can really find out what's what if you take the time to plan things out.

I think an increased difficulty in finding love when you're rich and famous is part of the trade off for such fame. The old saying "you can't have it all" has to apply to superstars just as it does to us regular folk as well.

 

[LSN80]

I would do something similar to what Matt Damon did.

The guy is one of the most sought after and well respected actors in the business. I wont go off on a tangent as to the phenomenal job he did in the Bourne triologies. He could, conceivably, have had any woman he wanted. But he married a real estate agent, a woman he loved. And I respect him so much for that.

I would like to think that I would have enough integrity that by becoming rich and famous, it wouldnt change me to the point of marrying for fame, or just the hottest broad who may or may not be in to me for my money.

To answer the questions?

1. Would I have any interest in people like that?

I think it would be hard not to. Money is the leading cause of divorce in our country, so its obviously a factor into why people marry each other in the first place. I would want to take the time to get to know someone to make sure their intentions were truly into me, and not JUST the fact that I had money, although the money is always going to realistically play a factor.

2. How would you deal with waking up to them every day if you were to marry?

I would hope I would wake up the same way I do to my own wife now- that it never gets old. I would have invested the time and energy into her to know that she loves me for me, and i wouldnt treat her any differently if she was an A-list actress, or my social worker wife.

3. Would this weigh on your mind/heart?

This is the tough one, and a damn good question. I think, in the back of my mind, the thought would always be there that she wasnt truly into me for me. The divorce rate amongst the famous is so high that it would be impossible not to think about it. But thats why I would, as I said in the first answer, invest the time and energy into her, privately, not just at parites and clubs, to get to know her and make sure I was important to her for the right reasons, and vice versa. I wouldnt want to wake up next to a gold digging b*tch, no matter how attractive they are. Sex is only one thing that makes a relationship special, and iof the sex(inside marriage) didnt mean anything, then it would certainly weigh heavily on my heart and mind. Really interesting thread topic.

 

[The Best At What I Do]

NorCal, I immediately thought from the title that this was going to be a dirty joke thread. I was about to post:

Here's mine:

A man and a lady walk into a bar.
Lady: "What do you do?"
Man: "I'm a carpenter."
Lady: "To what extent of carpentry do you work?"
Man: "Well, I actually work extensively with Wood."
"First, I get you Hammered."
"Next, I Nail You"
"Then, I Screw all your friends."

But on topic, I refuse to even enter into a relationship with someone who I believe to be with me only for my fame and fortune. I have my bachelors in biological sciences and as an undergrad you wouldn't believe how quickly females gave up the poon after merely mentioning I was a pre-med major. It was easy to tell what they were after when all conversations started to begin with "After you're a doctor, cluck cluck cluck." I'm all for fooling around even still but marriage I take seriously. The woman I decide to settle down with, I will be sure that she is not just with me for my money or fame or anything besides just what makes me me. It has to be a deeper connection than just dollars or looks.

 

[WHAT?]

Tom Brady wakes up next to his super model millionaire wife every day. THing is, if he wasn't Tom Brady, Super Bowl winning millionaire QB, and just Tom Brady, Mighigan Wolverines Offensive coordinator / backup QB for the Iowa Barnstormers, she would have never came him a second look. Most likely.

My question is, how would you feel in that situation? If you woke up to a woman / man on a daily basis you knew would have nothing to say to you if you werent of the social status you currently hold? This person doesnt necessarily have to be with FOR what you have, but at the same time, would have never even considered you if you didnt have it?

Say next week, you were all discovered by some talent agency, got your big break into film or whatever, and now you are at parties with amazingly gorgeous movie starlets interested in you? When just last week, they would have NEVER spoken to you?

Would you have an interest in those people? How would you deal with waking up to them on a daily basis if you were to marry? Would this weigh upon your mind or heart?

Personally I wouldn't be interested in those type of people because, like NorCal said, they wouldn't be talking to you or know you even exist without your current social status. This would weigh upon both my mind/heart. With more weight upon my heart because I know this isn't true love nor will it ever be. I wouldn't doubt that this question has crossed Tom's mind a time or two. As for waking up next to that person day after day, I would die a little inside.

But on the hand, maybe people in this situation are actually happy and in love.

 

[Dagger Dias]

Would I be interested in those people? Absolutely not. I hate it with a burning passion when someone "loves" someone just for their social status, money, or appearance. That's not real love. You should be with somebody because they make you happy AND you like them for the type of person they truly are. Appearance, money, and social status are all icing on the cake. Or at least they SHOULD be. Society lost track of that.

Assuming I wasn't married.... if I were to suddenly become incredibly famous, for this example I'll assume my video game became a huge hit after I release it, and suddenly women became interested in me, I can say with 100% honesty that I would want nothing to do with them. I believe in something far greater than casual relationships with someone who just happens to be really rich and/or really famous. As I said earlier, that's meant to be icing on the cake.

Why waste my time on someone who wouldn't give me the time of day if I wasn't famous? Those people are hurtful, shallow, and just plain evil. THEY do not deserve YOUR attention if NorCal's question ever happened in real life. You should instead stick with someone who would have been interested in you REGARDLESS of your social status. That person would still love you for who you are if you somehow lost your social status.

I could never deal with having to wake up to that person every day knowing she only wanted my money and fame. Anybody who has ever been in a relationship should ask themselves if their partner likes them for who they really are, because if the answer is yes then they have found a good catch. Casual relationships based on social status and fame are never a good idea because while you might have some fun, it will only end in heartache unless through some divine miracle your partner has a change of heart and begins to like you for who you are.

Great thread, NorCal.

 

[Arkham Noir]

This is an intresting concept because ,truth is, 95% of people who say they woudn't be intrested probably would jump for this women in a heartbeat.

When you think about it, alot of these people who make it to these positions of stature usally go through hell to get there that this is almost their reward. Put yourself in the position of someone like Tom Brady.Works his ass off for years to get where he is. Spent thousands of hours training, and the odds of him making it were like one in a million. Put yourself in that position and do you really think you would turn down a hot piece of millionaire ass?

Does that make it right? In my opionion, no. But its all a matter of opinion anyways. Some people don't deserve this kind of stature and just sleep their way there anyways. So I guess in the end its about what you percieve yourself worth to be. Does your ego dictate that your entitled to people over your social status, or are your going to look at it from an honest perspective.

 

[jmt225]

I think most famous/rich people date other famous/rich people because they know at least that the person they're dating isn't with them for the money. Sure, they could dwell on the fact that maybe he or she would have never given him/her a second look if he/she wasn't a recognizable face to begin with, but meh... money rules over everything in this World, and if you're 100% sure your mate is with you for anything else other than you're money, than I think most people can live with that, no matter what.

So, yeah... I wouldn't think about it as long as she was on my level in the money department, and I think most men/women who are famous/rich feel the exact same way.

 

[Coco]

I don't think it would weigh on my mind too much, if only because of the way I see the world. External variables play a huge role in who we socialize with and find appealing. Fact of the matter is that our location on the social ladder has more to do with who we're drawn to than most would like to admit to themself. Frequent positive contact with someone is often what best facilitates liking. Who do we most often have postive contact with? The people who are about equal (or near equal) to us on the social ladder who we are exposed to on a regular basis. If I were Tom Brady or that millionaire supermodel, I wouldn't see my relationship as any less genuine than that of the average person. I'm only enjoying the same social experience as everyone else, just at a higher level on the ladder. Those are the people I'd find myself surrounded with on a regular basis and things would simply be taking their natural course.

Color me indifferent.