IC25's Douchebag of the Week Award

[IrishCanadian25]

7/21/11 - Martey J. Williams​

A Jersey City courtroom erupted in chaos this morning at a sentencing hearing when a convicted killer smiled as the victim's husband tearfully showed the court scars left by stab wounds on his young son, who was critically injured in the fatal attack.

Ivan Reyes Sr., whose wife, Jacqueline Reyes, was stabbed to death in the Dec. 8, 2009 attack in their Paulus Hook Towers apartment, lunged at Martey J. Williams, who pleaded guilty last month. Ivan Reyes Jr., 9 months old at the time, was stabbed six times in the chest and abdomen by Williams.

When sheriff's officers grabbed Reyes, family members and friends came to their feet and rushed at Williams, who was still smiling.

Williams was rushed out for his own safety and the courtroom was cleared by Judge Kevin Callahan. One man was injured in the melee, and was extremely agitated in the hallway outside the courtroom as sheriff's officers and friends tried to calm him. He refused medical attention.

The sentencing hearing was intense from the start, as Reyes Sr. kept a cold stare on Williams as he entered the courtroom. Seated at a table, Williams turned and noticed Reyes' glare, he just smiled at Reyes.

By pleading guilty to felony murder of Jacqueline Reyes and attempted murder of her son Ivan Reyes Jr., Williams was spared from a possible life term behind bars, but he faces up to 40 years in prison.

After he was charged Williams underwent testing to determine if he was competent to stand trial. At a May 4 pre-trial hearing it was revealed that a doctor at a state psychiatric hospital diagnosed Williams as insane at the time of the bloody crime in a Downtown apartment tower in 2009, officials said.

Basically, in Jersey City, this douchebag Martey Williams smiled at the widow of a woman he murdered. Apparently, he found the scars he'd left on the man's son ammusing.

I'd have been pushed to me breaking point as well. I'd have tried to unholster a gun from a guard and take the fucker out myself, especially considering his lack of remorse, coupled with the fact that he'll be eligible to get out of prison in 40 years because of his guilty plea, make him a sectionof the gene pool in desparate need of chlorine.

The man who lunged at Williams - the same man whose wife is dead and family is torn apart - was held and charged with contempt of court. Reyes, the man held in contempt, spent 4 hours in the lockup, and that was the extent of the punishment, but still - I'd truly have struggled with the concept of the man being punished for losing it in a courtroom when the thug who murdered his 27-year old wife smiled.

What are your thoughts on this story, and do you think Reyes should have been charged with contempt? And should Williams be facng any penalty less than life in prison without the possibility of parole?

 

[H33LTurn]

I agree with the court taking disciplinary action against the man who attacked Williams, anywhere else doing so could result in a charge of assault. I do think, however, 4 hours was a bit excessive and unnecessary. 1-2 hours to help the man calm down would've been okay. And I think Williams should get life without parole. This man shows no remorse and is a danger to others.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

In extreme cases like the one you have described, where the guilty party not only admits to the crime but expresses no remorse, he should be flown down to Texas for their next free space! I feel sorry for both the widower and the guards who had to restrain and imprison him, I'm sure they felt bad having to step in.

 

[LSN80]

Im guessing that your strong feelings about this IC have something to do with being married. Mine too.

[B]What are your thoughts on this story, and do you think Reyes should have been charged with contempt?[/QUOTE]

Technically yes, if youre looking at things by the letter of the law. But Im looking at this as a human being, with a wife. If someone had killed my wife--- he wouldn't have made it to court--- it would have been something out of[I] A Time to Kill[/I]--- and Id be the one on trial. I guess the judge was just trying to hold up order in the courtroom, but where was the judge when Williams was laughing at Reyes from the start? Im sorry, the judge was quite incompetant here. Unless he was blind, Im not sure how he missed Williams smiling at Reyes, multiple times.

Im not sure how Williams was able to plead to felony murder here. Felony murder is generally only handed out when someone is killed accidentally, or without intent to kill while in the commission of a felony. It seems to me that Williams very much so meant to kill Reyes wife, and his son as well. His ability to plead guilty to felony murder is most likely due to him being found insane at the time of the killings. Still, that's bullshit. Either he should have been deemed mentally incapable---in a mental ward for the rest of his life--or he should have gone to jail for the rest of his life---Felony murder simply doesn't fit here.

[QUOTE] And should Williams be facing any penalty less than life in prison without the possibility of parole?[/QUOTE]

No, hell no. As I said earlier, the felony murder charge is bullshit here. Combine that with the fact that he was declared competant to stand trial, while showing absolutely no remorse and enjoyment at his "handywork". I find it unfortunate here that New Jersey abolished the death penalty in 2007, if only for this man.Im not exactly a proponent of the death penalty but this man doesn't deserve three meals a day, a bed to sleep in, or to even be able to mix with the general population. The likelihood that this remorseless bastard who destroyed a family and found it amusing will see the light of day again makes me absolutely sick. At the least--the very least--the man should be in jail for life---no chance of parole.​

 

[Dagger Dias]

Things like this are part of why I hate the justice system that we have. Granted some may think Reyes should have tried harder to control himself, but being married myself I would struggle with maintaining a calm attitude if I ever were in the same room as someone who hurt my wife, let alone her killer if she got murdered. There are two sides to the story. Yes he should have remained calm, but anyone who has ever been in a serious relationship knows how hard it would be to not attack someone who killed the person you loved then mocked you by laughing at your scars. Williams took someone's life. He should not have been given a more lenient sentence when he even admitted to doing it! This situation is absolutely ridiculous. Normally my beliefs would lead me to not want to judge the man, but when trying to see it from Reyes' point of view it makes it easier to want him to receive the life sentence. He took someone's life while trying to take others and should spend the rest of his life thinking about what he did.

 

[JWGunslinger]

I'll throw down the simple version of this because the story makes me sick and spending too much time on it will piss me off, but I will get my point across first.

What are your thoughts on this story, and do you think Reyes should have been charged with contempt?
Any story that includes someone's wife or husband being killed hits hard, if anything happened to my fiance the world would become meaning less and I would unleash all of my fury upon the lowlife who did it. There is no way that Reyes deserved comtempt, yes in our legal system it would make sense that he would but I am saying that he does not morally deserve it. I know that our legal system needs to be strict in certain areas and for the most part it gets the job done, but there are some major(pardon my french) fucking problems if a man can kill your wife,almost kill your son and sit there laughing after in a courtroom. It disgusts me that any kind of action against this man would possibly be taken considering the circumstances.

And should Williams be facng any penalty less than life in prison without the possibility of parole?
The man killed a wife and mother, nearly killed a boy and son and then smiles at the husband in court. Not only do I think he should face anything less, I think the bastard deserves to burn I wish that Reyes could pull a Gerard Butler from Law Abiding Citizen and torture the bastard for the sick things that he did. No man who does something so low should ever have the oppertunity to walk the streets again one day. Sometimes the world can be a cruel place, my deepest most sincere prayers go out to Reyes and his family.

 

[Xemmy]

Great thread idea IC25.

If I had been the judge, I wouldn't have charged Reyes with contempt. That being said, he is guilty of it. The court is the court. I don't blame the man for getting upset, but you have to control yourself in a court room. I wouldn't charge him, but I wouldn't blame another judge for charging him. As for Williams, given the crime and his attitude in court, I don't think he deserves any less than life. His actions warrant it, and his attitude makes it clear that he doesn't have a hint of remorse. That's enough for me. Quite frankly, he deserves the Death Penalty. I would never give him that- I don't support Capital Punishment. But if any man deserved it, Williams certainly does.

 

[Mustang Sally]

I detest the implications involved in the justice system's vociferous protection of Williams' rights, especially after he displayed the kind of behavior toward the victim's family that he did. Yes, I know it's the law, but it often seems shameful the way they protect the accused while brushing aside the suffering of the victims and their kin.

That said, I say Reyes has to be held in contempt, even as we feel sympathy for what he's going through. You have to consider future events and legal actions taken as a result of those events.

If the legal system lets Reyes go unpunished, we're going to have court proceedings in which anyone who feels aggrieved by an alleged crime can attack the perpetrator without fear of reprisal by the court. If someone goes after the defendant and the court wants to cite him for contempt, all his attorney has to do is point to the Reyes incident and say: "If you didn't punish him, you can't punish my client." Before long, you'll have full-scale anarchy......and brawls in courtrooms all over the country.

If Reyes is the last victim's family member who ever takes matters into his own hands, maybe the legal system could let him go. But since that's unlikely, he has to pay the price.......even as sorry for him as we feel.

 

[Derf]

This is fucking horrible, and like someone else said, if it was me it never would have went to court. I'd have taken the fucker out, then ended it myself just to stay out of jail. Cowardly, I know, but there is a time where revenge is the best possible solution.

That being said, I do feel the situation, as unfortunate as it was, was handled as it should have been. Reyes could have been helded an hour or two less, but he did in fact break the law and only added fuel to the fire in the courtroom, not that I blame him.


As for Fuck Face, he only got 40 years. Lets just hope he doesn't make it to year 40. Shower shanking anyone?

 

[I Will Fart In Your Mouth]

I don't condone the Death Penalty in any form so no, I don't think he should be killed. I guess he should sit in prison for the rest of his life? I don't know. The Justice system is flawed and inexact. It fails frequently and is corrupt. Yet, there is no way of fairly dolling out equal punishment, when every crime is different and has it's own set of circumstances.

I do find it a tad hypocritical that all of you say he deserves to die because he remorselessly killed somebody, when all of you say YOU would remorselessly kill HIM. I'm not saying those feelings are unjustified, just slightly hypocritical. That being said, I have no clue how I would react if the person I loved more then anybody in the world was brutally murdered and I was watching the killer smile with delight in the courtroom. I'd like to think that I would have the foresight to realize that nothing I could do, revenge wise, would bring back a life lost. However, there is a massively bigger chance that I would be filled with a murderous rage and try to kill the guy in right there in front of the judge. So never mind, I'm a hypocrite as well.

 

[Fizzy]

I agree with the court taking disciplinary action against the man who attacked Williams, anywhere else doing so could result in a charge of assault. .

Really... Not only is it bad enough that the guy is getting out, but he was amused by the wound he left on your child. How can anybody be expected to stay calm in that situation? He fucking murdered the guys wife and left scars on his child that will haunt him for the rest of his life, and he finds it amusing. I'd jump at him as well and I guarantee you anybody else would including that judge. That was a bullshit decision to reprimand him for that when they could have easily taken him out of the court room and let him cool down before allowing him to leave. The poor guys wife was murdered for fucks sake.

Anyway, this guy is a piece of fucking trash and he deserves the death penalty. He attempted to murder a 9 month old child. That alone should get him the death penalty. I hate to say somebody deserves death and it hurts me to say this, but I hope he gets what he deserves in jail. He doesn't deserve to walk around let alone get out of prison in forty years.

 

[SalvIsWin]

I'm all for following the law, but I think there needs to be a degree of human kindness and empathy when deciding matters like this. His son was not killed I take it, but was brutally attacked, and his wife was murdered - I think the man has good reason to be upset. He shouldn't be lunging at Williams, but his actions were fueled by intense emotions and his lapse in judgement was reasonable IMO.

Given the clearly apparent lack of sympathy, I would say he shouldn't be given a sentence that is less than life without possibility of parole. However, he was found to be insane at the time, so I would have to actually say that the possibility of parole shouldn't be taken away at this point. After years and years of being behind bars, or with a lot of therapy, he could be a safe, stable individual in society again - it's hard to say for sure. Either way, the details of the crime and courtroom dramatics (this), should be taken into account during any parole hearing.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

I don't condone the Death Penalty in any form so no, I don't think he should be killed. I guess he should sit in prison for the rest of his life? I don't know. The Justice system is flawed and inexact. It fails frequently and is corrupt. Yet, there is no way of fairly dolling out equal punishment, when every crime is different and has it's own set of circumstances.

I do find it a tad hypocritical that all of you say he deserves to die because he remorselessly killed somebody, when all of you say YOU would remorselessly kill HIM. I'm not saying those feelings are unjustified, just slightly hypocritical. That being said, I have no clue how I would react if the person I loved more then anybody in the world was brutally murdered and I was watching the killer smile with delight in the courtroom. I'd like to think that I would have the foresight to realize that nothing I could do, revenge wise, would bring back a life lost. However, there is a massively bigger chance that I would be filled with a murderous rage and try to kill the guy in right there in front of the judge. So never mind, I'm a hypocrite as well.

When you are in that position, you will change your tune. Being from a country were bastards get 'recognised' as heros gives 20/20!

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

I'm all for following the law, but I think there needs to be a degree of human kindness and empathy when deciding matters like this. His son was not killed I take it, but was brutally attacked, and his wife was murdered - I think the man has good reason to be upset. He shouldn't be lunging at Williams, but his actions were fueled by intense emotions and his lapse in judgement was reasonable IMO.

Given the clearly apparent lack of sympathy, I would say he shouldn't be given a sentence that is less than life without possibility of parole. However, he was found to be insane at the time, so I would have to actually say that the possibility of parole shouldn't be taken away at this point. After years and years of being behind bars, or with a lot of therapy, he could be a safe, stable individual in society again - it's hard to say for sure. Either way, the details of the crime and courtroom dramatics (this), should be taken into account during any parole hearing.

"However, he was found to be insane at the time, so I would have to actually say that the possibility of parole shouldn't be taken away at this point."

Seriously, are you having a laugh? A scumbag murders a wife, forever disables a child, about it and you condone him hitting the streets again? I didn't check where your from, but I, for one, do not agree with money that I work hard for being used to keep dirty bastards like this alive, especially when he is so fucking happy to admit what he has done!

 

[Uncle Phatso]

What are your thoughts on this story, and do you think Reyes should have been charged with contempt?

Yes I do believe he should have been charged with Contempt. He charged the person on trial or whatever. But will he really receve anything for losing his cool? Nothing more than what he spent in lockup and a small fine. I can say that I would probably do the same things If I was in the mans shoes. What Williams doesn't know is that people in jail don't take to kindly to women killers, or baby killers. In some prisions that's just as bad as being a child molester or rapist. To kill a woman as a man in cold blood, I don't want to see what they are going to do to him if someone gets his file charges.

And should Williams be facng any penalty less than life in prison without the possibility of parole?

No, as said before he's allredy fucked. He deserves life in prision. No questions asked, Williams is not a human being. He showed no remorse, he was basically laughing at Reyes in the courtroom. That is someone who deserves to be locked away forever. Because he is cold, he has no remorse for his actions. He deserves to fucking rot.

 

[silrock316]

I am a bit tougher when it comes to this stuff. To me if you purposely take a persons life and its vicious and resembles this story the person shouldnt even be rewarded with jail, where he is gonna get 3 meals a day, beable to work out on a daily basis and play basketball. He should be killed the same way he killed the innocent person. I know laws prevent that but I hate the fact murderers will get some sort of life after taking someone elses.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

7/29/11 - Amy Winehouse


Congrats to Ms. Winehouse on one week of sobriety!

Did I really see a picture of a woman crying at her memorial recently?

REALLY?

REALLY?

So she's a talented singer - I get it. She captured the world's attention because he was a moderately talented singer who drank like a fish, did drugs even Keith Richards wouldn't touch, and inflicted harm on herself while also battling eating disorders. She was a walking tabloid, and for some reason, when that lifestyle killed her, we're supposed to mourn her now?

In 2006, she pummeled a fan who suggested that Winehouse had done wrong in picking the louche Blake Fielder-Civil for a husband. "So I punched her right in the face -- which she wasn't expecting, because girls don't do that," Winehouse told London's Daily Mail at the time. Fielder-Civil received a knee to the crotch when he tried to calm her down.

"When I've been on the booze recently, it's turned me into a really nasty drunk," she added.

Winehouse and her beloved Blake also have traded blows. One particularly nasty brawl left both bruised, bloodied and covered in scratches. Again, she blamed the alcohol.

"I'm either really a good drunk or I'm an out-and-out s***, horrible, violent, abusive, emotional drunk," she told British tabloid The Sun. "If [Blake] says one thing I don't like, then I'll chin him."

Here's an idea, you useless once-upon-a-time waste of space- STOP FUCKING DRINKING. You were blessed with talent that would make you a millionaire and you threw it all away because you're weak and couldn't get control of your addictions. You were an awful influence on your young fans, one of the worst role models I've ever seen, and a damn waste of talent.

Generic faceless crack head dies? Whatever. Someone with so much natural talent flushes it time and time again after repeated warning signs not to!? Good riddence.

Best thing she's ever done was to be creamated, because that way she takes up less space. Maybe she wasn't creamted and actually came back from the dead and smoked herself.

IC25's Douchebag of the Week award goes to Amy Winehouse and anybody who sheds a tear for this sickening attention ****e.


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[LSN80]

Congrats to Ms. Winehouse on one week of sobriety!

A little insensitive, perhaps? I understaand the people who have no sympathy for her, and the like, but this? Congraatulating someone for a week of sobriety because they're dead?

Did I really see a picture of a woman crying at her memorial recently?

REALLY?

Would you say that same thing if it were her mother, a close friend, or someone who was genuinely touched by here music? Someone who heard her rehab song, and it had a paradoxical effect?

So she's a talented singer - I get it. She captured the world's attention because he was a moderately talented singer who drank like a fish, did drugs even Keith Richards wouldn't touch, and inflicted harm on herself while also battling eating disorders. She was a walking tabloid, and for some reason, when that lifestyle killed her, we're supposed to mourn her now?

We're not supposed to do anything. I dont mourn her death, but I do feel empathy for her. Just because the genetics of you or I allow us to be strong enough to be able to conmtrol urges, know when to say when, and not become addicted the first time we touch a painkiller or a narcotic anxiety medication, does that mean all of us are wired that way? Addiction, like it or not, is a disease. She also sufferred major depressive disorder, and as you said, an eating disorder. Theyre things outside of our control at times that no amount of help can provide. Noone forced her to drink, or certainly turn to a ton of drugs. But we don't know how that originated. Call it my background in the mental health field working with addicts for years, and while I don't have sympathy for some, I have empaathy for all. Perhaps it's the lack of either sympathy or empathy, or both, that keep people from truly getting the help they truly need.

Here's an idea, you useless once-upon-a-time waste of space- STOP FUCKING DRINKING. You were blessed with talent that would make you a millionaire and you threw it all away because you're weak and couldn't get control of your addictions.

Easily said, difficult to do. For some, it's as difficult as telling someone who is paralyzed to get up and walk, and then calling them "weak" because they can't. Those people "can't control" their body functions and the like, but would you dream of telling them to just buck it up and walk? Hell no. Obviously she should have stayed in rehab for as long as it took, but even rehab has no guarantees, even for those with the best intentions. She made several attempts to get clean in 08, 09, and 2011, just months before her death. To say she made no effort or should have just "stopped" is denying the role genetics and environment have been proven to play in addiction.

Generic faceless crack head dies? Whatever. Someone with so much natural talent flushes it time and time again after repeated warning signs not to!? Good riddence.

C'Mon man. That's society. Color me different from most, because anytime I see a "generic faceless" crack addict die, it saddens me. Ive seen those who have been successful lawyers, businessmen, minor league athletes and the like walk into my office looking nothing lkike who they used to be. They've lost everything, yet they still can't control their problems. There are medications and treaatment programs, and some have used them to the hilt. But because of their cravings, which started small through gateway drugs like Vicodin or Xanax, they've become full-blown drug addicts, who took solace in the usage despite everything else in life falling down around them. Just because you and I dont suffer from the genetics of Ms. Winehouse or the faceless crack addict doesn't mean they're not real. They're something we should be damn thankful for.

IC25's Douchebag of the Week award goes to Amy Winehouse and anybody who sheds a tear for this sickening attention ****e.

Good choice last week, not so much this week. The only thing Id understand is if she started using full-fledged illegal drugs knowing the dangers ahead of time. But you, I, and so many others have drank before, no? The only difference, a big perhaps, is we're able to control the how much and often. Perhaps Ms. Winehouse wasn't. Was her song about Rehab misguided and indicative of denial? Sure. And she was obviously surrounded by enablers. It doesn't mean her level of control was similar to yours or eyes, just like the junkie under the bridge. As such, its cruel and insensitive to any and all addicts, without knowing and presenting the facts.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

I've no empathy or sympathy for Amy Winehouse mainly because she came across as a truly unlikeable little bitch who only thought of number one. However, it would be hypocritical for any wrestling fan who has mourned all or any of the many grapplers who have left us early at the feet of the same demons to discount the effect that she had on her multitude of fans.

But what really surprises me IC is that you have chosen a non entity who's biggest crime is dying when, at the same time, a bigoted asshole (Anders Breivik) murdered 76 fellow countrymen?

 

[Alastor]

Really? Granted Amy Winehouse was a real douchebag but to nominate her for the douchebag of the week just because she passed away? That makes me feel like the award should be given to you instead.

 

[JW'sGirl]

I agree with you that she's a "sickening attention ****e" but giving the douchebag of the week award to someone who just died seems a little wrong. I fully blame her lifestyle for her death, obviously, and I couldn't stand her music or the way she conducted herself (I'm not shedding a tear over this one and I can't say I didn't see it coming), but this seems a little harsh...

 

[RattleRockerJet97]

Its kind of funny, i was wondering where Ms.Winehouse was, how she was doing in her carrer and then all of a sudden i hear of her death....Shes never coming back again so people who loved her are obviously going to be sad and her fans who were hoping to get something new from her. Its sad to know shes so young and gone.

So i dont agree on Douchebag of the week.

 

[The Big Gunnzbowski]

Guess you shoulda given her the "Darwin Award of The Year", but that would have been a premature prize, seeing as how the year isn't over.

You see, Charles Darwin WAS right! Look it up!

IC, I stand behind your decision, BECAUSE of the fact that she was in the limelight. However, I see the prize being split between her and the people around her. If the people in her life didn't see a big enough problem going on, they should have their fucking eyes gouged out and donated to somebody less stupid. Her enablers are equally responsible, so let's be fair here...

(Hey, It's September, damn it! Update this shit!)