I've already said, in this thread and elsewhere, they've gotten over. If you read it instead of letting your anger dictate your responses you'd see that. But I guess that's me "avoiding the issue like usual".
Anger? I meant about Deadpool/Punk (which you got to way later). Projecting much?
What I also said is that I find it inexplicable that they were able to get over pulling off this type of gimmick, because it's marketed to a niche audience and is based entirely on a copying the mannerisms, maneuvers and catch phrases of performers far more talented than either of the Bucks are as their natural selves.
Well, duh. There's always going to be a gym bro in a DX shirt who thinks this shit is cool and cheers it on. Everyone else boos it. You know, because they are heels. And you can shit all you want about originality, but the indisputable fact remains that the Young Bucks and Bullet Club have been the only successful recreation of the nWo or DX that has ever been attempted. When you consider just how many times that reboots and knock-offs have been attempted, including by the supposed more talented performers (actually, more often than not), your argument makes even less sense.
X-Pac heat is commonly referred to as "go away" heat.
Yeah. As in they boo you if you run face, and give no shits about you as a heel. As in exactly what fans felt for X-Pac post DX when everything they tried ended up in one of the two ways listed above. As in the whole fucking reason it's called "X-Pac Heat".
As in no one wants to fucking see you or hear you. Matt Hardy suffered from it for years. Orlando Jordan. Val Venis in TNA. David Flair. A few others.
Yes. Yes. We know. We know.
But you can't just say they have it, especially when they are most assuredly over, as you have no problem admitting.
They're members, perhaps core now that so many have left, of NJPW's Bullet Club. They are not even close to being responsible for the rise/popularity of the group. Devitt, Anderson, Fale, Tonga and Styles are responsible for that.
They are the tag-team of the stable, holding more belts than even Anderson and Gallows. They aren't a random pairing of dudes who don't get matches or angles. They aren't the dude who has to walk Omega to the ring carrying his broom for him. Do you watch this stuff, or are you just skim articles on WZ?
The Bucks, as usual, jumped on a hot train they didn't create and are riding off steam they aren't responsible for.
They are two of four still left from the first year. They were there long before Styles, if anything Styles walked in on something he didn't create.
As to Punk/Deadpool, they are both snarky, quick-witted anti-heroes that were known to break the fourth wall often.
Terrible.
How so? Weren't you just praising this neck beard as being established? Yet there he was, photocopying a moment from a far more talented and accomplished performer. Surely, by your logic, this man is a hack and deserves no praise, right?
There's a big, big difference when James Storm uses a super kick for a finisher because he grew up a Shawn Michaels fan and when the Young Bucks walk around doing the nWo too sweet, which is a direct rip off of wrestling's most famous heel stable, or crotch-chopping and telling everyone to "suck it" another direct rip off.
You understand that that is part of the Bullet Club gimmick, right? And no, there is not much difference between the two examples you have given other than audience perception. You are biased for Storm because you are a fan of his and you find his story touching. You don't extend the same courtesy to the Bucks, however, because you don't like them. This wouldn't be so bad if you didn't make such a huge deal about copying.
If the Bucks loved DX, there are better ways to pay homage to them. If they loved the nWO, the same holds true.
I'd consider a true successor stable that succeeded where every other reincarnation of either stable failed is a pretty neat homage.
You don't need to grab the lowest hanging fruit. When you do so, you are taking the laziest possible approach and you deserve all the flack you're given for it. You don't just get to duck it by claiming "it's just a joke".
And these are criticisms of their out of the ring persona only. I've got plenty of problems with them in it that we haven't even scraped the surface on.
I don't know what you are whining about with the constant "it's just a joke" quote. If you have something specific to mention, by all means bring it up.
You obvious do not like these people personally or professionally. That's fair and valid and all, but why are you attempting to act like you can make a reasoned and insightful critique of them when for whatever reason the two have inspired such hatred in you? Really, who is the one who sounds angry here? I'm going with the guy who has problems he hasn't even touched the surface on.
