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I called this Shield angle to a tee a few months ago. I suggested that the Shield turn face and start LEGITIMATELY fighting for justice by helping Daniel Bryan from getting screwed by the Authority... I also said that the Shield vs Authority angle was going to start the day after Mania and I believe it will culminate in a match at Mania 31.

Now that I'm done tooting my own horn....
How do you see this angle playing out? Does it have the legs to go on for a full year?
 
I called it here too. Good job. I just thought what happened tonight was going to happen during the WM match. This worked better. It kept the WM moment pure, while setting up the summer for Evolution 2 (HHH, Batista, Orton, Kane) vs Shield.
 
HAHA let's be honest here, you don't care about the answers to your 2 questions, you just wanted to point out that you guessed the obvious :) just kidding buddy.

But just in the interest of helping you brag : It can't last a while IMO, how can Orton Batista Kane and Trips be a legit threat to the Shield after what happened last night (Bryan beating all 3 in one night)

One last thing regarding the segment : Did anyone notice how Batista looked so out of it, man look at the replay if you can, the whole segment he looks like he just wants to fkin leave and is thinking about something else, look at when Trips is on the floor outside the ring, he starts walking towards the back at least 3 times and come back while Orton helps Trips up and acts pissed. Even during the USO's beatdown, did you guys see Batista? He looked lost, even whispered shits in Orton's ear a few times... was just awkward.

I'll make a prediction like you did : Batista is not in the WWE coming next WM season.
 
jeff, the NAO aren't Orton and Batista. There is a reason those 2 were squashed and not out here tonight. This is going to be heel Orton, heel Batista and heel Kane managed by heel HHH. Entirely different game there vs the Shield, especially now that the Shield is face (meaning they'll be subject to the same face beatdowns that Cena, Bryan, etc get)
 
jeff, the NAO aren't Orton and Batista. There is a reason those 2 were squashed and not out here tonight. This is going to be heel Orton, heel Batista and heel Kane managed by heel HHH. Entirely different game there vs the Shield, especially now that the Shield is face (meaning they'll be subject to the same face beatdowns that Cena, Bryan, etc get)

I hear you buddy, Doesn't change the fact that DB still did beat the 3 of them, all "fully" heels the night before, and The Shield was allready face so I don't get that last line of yours

Like it or not, with the finish we had yesterday it made Orton and Batista look a bit weak, Batista taping out and Orton losing his belt.. anyways

I'll let it play out but I'm not the biggest fan of continuing this Sheld/Orton/HHH/Kane feud, Batista is a new player in the feud but he tapped out loll
 
My point with the Shield being face is they are no longer the invincible force that cannot be stopped. The Shield squashed the NAO at WM but a few weeks ago the same NAO with those geriatric geysers was beating the crap out of them. The beatdown they got then will be nothing compared to the rule making heel HHH and his heel stable of former world champions.

The ending made Batista look weak because he tapped. Didn't affect Orton in my opinion. And "weak" is relative. Weak means he may not be able to beat Daniel Bryan but Ambrose or Rollins don't come close to being a Daniel Bryan and that's who he'll be facing for now at least.
 
I called this Shield angle to a tee a few months ago. I suggested that the Shield turn face and start LEGITIMATELY fighting for justice by helping Daniel Bryan from getting screwed by the Authority... I also said that the Shield vs Authority angle was going to start the day after Mania and I believe it will culminate in a match at Mania 31.

Now that I'm done tooting my own horn....
How do you see this angle playing out? Does it have the legs to go on for a full year?

I called tonight's main event 3 weeks ago, wasn't a real match but I thought HHH tapping on Raw would make a great book end for the weekend.. Great move by WWE, there's money in a long baby face run for the Shield.

Don't look now but 2008 Indy stars have taken over WWE. What do you think for the next "PPV/Special Event", a title match and some sort of 6-man, or some convoluted 8/10/12 man War?
 
Yeah, I like the angle I think it makes everyone look good and gives Bryan enough to do until they decide to put the belt on Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroock LESSNAR, Bryan will go through Evolution and then Trips will get fed up with him and say "OH NO WHO CAN BEAT HIM" And Paul Heyman and Brock Lesnar will be standing there
 
Wow, Shield fights for justice and Authority does injustice. And you seen them feud? Good thinking man, I mean, no one could do logical thinking that good as you. :rolleyes:

Bryan needed someone with him in this feud. Punk isnt there, Cena and all others are unavalaiblle at the moment and its a nice way to promote Shield in high profile feud. So its good and logical calling by WWE. :)
 
I don't really seeing this being stretched another year but I see it lasting until Summerslam where it ends with Reigns Vs. HHH and the break up of the Shield. I see how people are saying were in for Evolution 2 but come on how long do you really think WWE will keep 3 or 4 of their top assets in a group, now granted this could work out but you just have to realize the three or 4 guys in this group have been shown to be some of the most egoistic in wrestling history and they won't be ones to just let the other guy hold the title for that long.

The reason evolution 1 worked was because HHH was the guy in his prime who was ready for the spot of champion/top heel and Flair was the vetran. Batista and Orton were young and new so they just couldn't be put into main title pictures. Now all three of the guys are WWE championship material and cannot possibly co-exist in a group.

The Shield is honestly running out of feuds and after evolution 2 they won't have another major feud to go up against unless a new group forms or they go against the "Paul Heyman Guys" which I think would just be awesome Reigns/Brock, RVD/Rollins, Ambrose/Cesaro. It's a perfect match up but I doubt Brock would get involved in a group especially due to his part time schedule but I think a Reigns/Cesaro, RVD/Rollins and Ambrose/Punk feud could be off the charts.

Now the question is how they handle the descension of each group, who takes which role and when the break up (of both groups) happens. But post Summerslam I don't see Shield Vs. Authority happening.
 
Well, I'll admit to not foreseeing the Shield turning face (or, at least as "face" as a vigilante group could ever be).

What I foresaw was a break-up of the trio, and the split had actually already occurred with Seth Rollins walking away from his mates during a match and standing on the ramp, signalling the demise of the group. Then, they cancelled the entire plan and kept the bad boys together. Seemed strange at the time.

Plainly, management altered their plans on this one, no? I find myself wondering what Roman Reigns must think about the delay of his singles push, which has totally disappeared in the present.....although it will surely be resurrected at some time in the (hopefully) near future.

Still, an alliance with power is needed to oppose the Authority, and last night's RAW events demonstrated why the rather extraneous Kane/Old Age Outlaws vs. Shield match took place at WM30. Yes, the result was predictable and the match was mercifully brief, yet it established a benchmark for the new program that was officially launched the next night on RAW.
 
Just like Sheamus and Mark Henry, The Shield just doesn't do it for me nor are they believable as faces. Especially after all the s*** they did to people the last year and a half all the sudden I'm suppose to take them serious as faces. It goes against everything The Shield was about. This is a huge mistake on WWE's part. Side note what's the point of having this no nonsense "boss" like Triple H etc if they are getting attacked with no consequences whatsoever.
 
I have to admit that I was wrong as to how smoothly this would go. I wasn't all that interested initially, but that's changed as they've moved The Shield right into a feud with The Authority. I figured it was coming when Kane let it slip that Trips told him & the NAO to take out The Shield several weeks back, but I couldn't be sure. For all I knew, they'd carry out his instructions at the last minute and help Trips beat Bryan.

It's also interesting as it gives Bryan, potentially, some allies against The Authority as it's not so lopsided.
 
kudos on the prediction. I did not see a fully face Shield team a few weeks ago. I'm glad you were right and I'm glad with the direction that they are going. I see it lasting tops 6 months. I'm thinking they will eventually return to the split as it was a few weeks ago. I think, ultimately, Ambrose will go rogue and turn heel and Rollins and Reigns will be individual faces. Regardless, I do like the face turn, and the new bandanas over their faces
 
The Shield is honestly running out of feuds and after evolution 2 they won't have another major feud to go up against unless a new group forms or they go against the "Paul Heyman Guys" which I think would just be awesome Reigns/Brock, RVD/Rollins, Ambrose/Cesaro. It's a perfect match up but I doubt Brock would get involved in a group especially due to his part time schedule but I think a Reigns/Cesaro, RVD/Rollins and Ambrose/Punk feud could be off the charts.

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How about The Ascension? I think one of the main reason for keeping the Shield together as faces was so The Ascension can make just as big an impact this year as the Shield did last year. I have no real doubt that these two teams will be feuding within the year. Maybe the feud with the Authority will end after ER and than Ascension will debut to hold the Shield over until SS, where they'll pick up their feud with Authority?
 
This whole thing is dependent on how much Triple H wants to wrestle. Does he want to be a yearly attraction at WrestleMania or is he willing to get in the ring at the pay-per views each month? If it's the latter, then I see this playing out quite well over the next several months. There are enough legitimate main event players here (Trips, Orton, Batista, Kane, Bryan) to keep the entire program fresh....

I can see the quartet of villainous stars taking their turn at Bryan's title, which means we wouldn't be subjected to monthly rematches! Additionally, I can see ppv events that feature 8-man elimination matches in the main event, which is another way to keep the title scene fresh... Here's how I'd break down the program over the next several months:

Extreme Rules - Bryan vs. Triple H; Reigns vs Kane; Ambrose/Rollins vs Batista/Orton
Payback - Bryan/Shield vs Trips/Kane/Batista/Orton (Batista wins)
Money in the Bank - Bryan vs Batista; Orton vs Ambrose; Reigns, Kane, Rollins in MITB (Reigns wins)
Battleground - Bryan vs Orton; Batista vs Reigns; Orton vs Ambrose
SummerSlam - Bryan vs Orton vs Batista - Bryan wins. Reigns cashes in.

This isn't perfect, and it could use some tweaking, but what I like about this is that the title match is different every month - even going so far as not to have a title match at all in June. Additionally, if Reigns is acting as Bryan's friend, then his winning the MITB adds a layer of distrust, which eventually gets paid off in Reigns' heel turn at SummerSlam.
 
There's another reason this may have happened... Of course Evolution 2.0 is kind of together now... but there is a crucial ingredient missing and it's someone who just cannot be heel now... Naitch himself...

The Authority/Evolution have both Kane and Steph, Kane takigng the 4th man spot and Steph the manager role so it would make a LOT of sense and arguably do a lot for The Shield both individually and as a group if Ric Flair got in their and Bryan's corner during this, almost becoming a new Horsemen type group... You have the "Enforcer" in Ambrose, you have the Luger/Sid type in Reigns and the Pillman type in Rollins. Bryan of course is in the Flair spot and that would put Flair in the J.J. Dillon role as spokesman...

It would be a very interesting way to use Evolution's past and get Ric involved with some of the newer blood.
 
this was a pretty obvious turn of events ever since HHH started speaking down to The Shield instead of respecting them as equals.
The Shield will stay solid until such time whomever is going to break away, probably Ambrose, and join The Authority. I anticipate The Shield and Bryanvs Orton, Batista, Kane and HHH for Extreme Rules
 

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